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Did The Grammys Get It Right in 1988? - U2's The Joshua Tree vs. Jane's Addiction's Nothing's Shocking (1 Viewer)

Which one?

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Just a quick vote. Nothing important. Love both albums.  

Albums nominated: 

The Joshua Tree - U2, Brian Eno, Daniel Lanois - Winner

Sign 'O' the Times - Prince - Nominee

Bad - Michael Jackson - Nominee

Whitney - Whitney Houston - Nominee

Trio - Dolly Parton, Linda Ronstadt, Emmylou Harris - Nominee

 
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as per my thread last week, it finally dawned on me that the Grammy that went to Tull over Metallica was the industry's way to atone for the Iggles ripping them off. 

oh, and Jane's Addiction got jobbed. 

 
this is like saying which is the better line of cars the corvette which has had a long line of great cars for decades or the pt cruiser which was hot for a short time but the model line fell to hell and rightly so because it was flash in the pan after that brohans u2 is the vette and this one is not even close take that to the bank bromigos 

 
Sucks for JA that they came up against an all-time great album. In a lot of years they probably do win.

But hell yes, U2 deserved to win.

 
I'm also asking because Jane's wasn't even nominated. I think U2 takes it here, too, but I voted Jane's just out of love.   

 
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Looking at the list, I would have probably gone with Bad. I dont like or dislike U2. But I only know 3 songs on the joshua tree. 

But who are we kidding. Suffer is better than U2, Janes Addiction and MJ combined. Amirite

Sonic Youth, Daydream Nation was released that year as well

 
AcerFC said:
Looking at the list, I would have probably gone with Bad. I dont like or dislike U2. But I only know 3 songs on the joshua tree. 

But who are we kidding. Suffer is better than U2, Janes Addiction and MJ combined. Amirite

Sonic Youth, Daydream Nation was released that year as well
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I disagree about Suffer -- which is a reasonably good punk album -- but Daydream Nation has to be in consideration for AOTY. 

 
the difference between suggestion and realization. both are immense in music, though the latter is more rare. Joshua Tree is a great, beautiful album and a favorite, but no part of my U2 experience will match their first kick @ my head w Gloria and going, 'yeah, ####in, yeah, that's me, they get it' and jumpin up & down and falling in love. so what's that?

 
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Uhhh...1989

The National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences added a Hard Rock/Metal Performance category for the 31st Grammy Awards (1989) Nominated works for the award included Blow Up Your Video by AC/DC, "Cold Metal" by Iggy Pop (from the album Instinct), Nothing's Shocking by Jane's Addiction, Crest of a Knave by Jethro Tull, and ...And Justice for All by Metallica.[9] Jethro Tull's lead singer Ian Anderson was surprised by the band's nomination, as both Anderson and music critics did not consider the group's music to be part of the heavy metal music genre.

 
McJose said:
Uhhh...1989

The National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences added a Hard Rock/Metal Performance category for the 31st Grammy Awards (1989) Nominated works for the award included Blow Up Your Video by AC/DC, "Cold Metal" by Iggy Pop (from the album Instinct), Nothing's Shocking by Jane's Addiction, Crest of a Knave by Jethro Tull, and ...And Justice for All by Metallica.[9] Jethro Tull's lead singer Ian Anderson was surprised by the band's nomination, as both Anderson and music critics did not consider the group's music to be part of the heavy metal music genre.
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Oh, I thought it was '89, but YouTube and Wikipedia said differently. Holy crap. Great that they were nominated. I remember it being '89, but both dates I saw are August of '88. Maybe too late for the Grammys.  

East Coast bias!   

 
Maybe the addition of the category relaxed the year, too. After all, they hadn't exactly gotten things down with the Tull album nomination. I still think an album released in '88 deserves '88 consideration.  Just my two cents, if not the academy's.  

 
Limp Ditka said:
If there’s one thing that I lose sleep over, it’s an award show from almost 30 years ago.
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Thanks, chief. Same here. Lost total sleep over it many nights and thought of it many long days. Got me through my Eight Mile days at the auto factory. :shrugs:  

Just listening to Nothing's Shocking last night and wondered if it wasn't the best album that year. Saw U2's Joshua Tree and realized they were both heavyweights. Thought it might be a nice poll.  

 
Nothing's Shocking was amazing to me.  It's definitely in my top 10 most-listened-to albums of all times.  I remember listening to it on the bus to and from cross country meets on my Walkman.  I had never heard anything like that before, and it changed my taste in music - it was the album that pushed me away from hair metal, rather than Nevermind a few years later.  I still listen to it every couple of years and enjoy it still.

Joshua Tree totally deserved it over Nothing's Shocking, though.  I recently listened to the The Great Albums podcast episode on Joshua Tree and was reminded how great that was all the way through.  It might be the best non-Metallica album of the 80s to me, even though I haven't listened to it in about 8 years.

 
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Nothing's Shocking was amazing to me.  It's definitely in my top 10 most-listened-to albums of all times.  I remember listening to it on the bus to and from cross country meets on my Walkman.  I had never heard anything like that before, and it changed my taste in music - it was the album that pushed me away from hair metal, rather than Nevermind a few years later.  I still listen to it every couple of years and enjoy it still.

Joshua Tree totally deserved it over Nothing's Shocking, though.  I recently listened to the The Great Albums podcast episode on Joshua Tree and was reminded how great that was all the way through.  It might be the best non-Metallica album of the 80s to me, even though I haven't listened to it in about 8 years.
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They're both monster albums, front to back. Nothing's Shocking had the same effect on me that you described. I arrived at The Joshua Tree album later, even though I owned it right upon release. 

 
HellToupee said:
Perry Farrell is just a ham & egger
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I'm not sure what you mean by this, but ham & eggs taste good, man. 

I've only heard this in reference to the blue-collar aspects of white-collar work. 

If that's true, give me Perry, man.  "Those damn blue-collared tweekers, they're beloved in this town."  - Primus. 

 
Best JA album for sure.  

But Joshua Tree may be the best album of the 80’s and will go down in history as one the greatest, timeless albums ever made.  

Streets, ISHFWILF and WOWY could be released tomorrow and they would sound current.  Might be the greatest three song opener ever too.  Just a classic, timeless album for the ages.  

 
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Is the prevailing opinion that Nothing's Shocking is better than Ritual De Lo Habitual?  I think I liked Ritual more. I recall it being more popular although perhaps that was because people had already been introduced to Jane's Addition and were excited for the new album coming out. 

 
Juxtatarot said:
Is the prevailing opinion that Nothing's Shocking is better than Ritual De Lo Habitual?  I think I liked Ritual more. I recall it being more popular although perhaps that was because people had already been introduced to Jane's Addition and were excited for the new album coming out. 
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That's a good question. It's a time-bound exercise, which is why I asked the question I did. But more broadly, Nothing's Shocking was cut as a band. Ritual was cut in separate locales, with mere overdubs and parts being done at remote locales. The band strife had taken its toll, and they couldn't record together. The only time Jane's was in the studio together for Ritual was Three Days, and it shows up in the recording, IMHO. Three Days is clearly the best, most fully-developed song on the album, if you ask me. 

I think the record buying public had changed from '88 to '90, and we were ready for Jane's more than they were ready for us.  

I thought Ritual was a bit of a disappointment.  

I'll still never forget going to see them in concert, though, They'd miked up these beer coolers and were just pounding them in a drum circle to Chip Away. It was actually quite awesome, and I'm usually not a sucker for stunts. Or drum circles.  

 
Juxtatarot said:
Is the prevailing opinion that Nothing's Shocking is better than Ritual De Lo Habitual?  I think I liked Ritual more. I recall it being more popular although perhaps that was because people had already been introduced to Jane's Addition and were excited for the new album coming out. 
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I loved Nothing's Shocking so much that I really wanted to like Ritual... but it never took for me.  I tried for years, but I don't think I even read it into .mp3 format, and probably will never listen to it again.

 
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