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Bob_Magaw

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i'll list more as they occur to me, but for starters...

reggie williams (445) had more receiving yards than matt jones (432) last season, and almost as many receptions (35 to 36)...

not sure if i should like williams more or jones less? :)

but of course jones is the favorite to inherit abruptly retired jimmy smith's WR1 role, & didn't have that kind of opportunity last year, so his stats are more likely to zoom upwards...

 
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before being injured early in week 12 (playing basically 10 games), byron leftwich was pacing for 25 combined (passing/rushing) TDs & looked to be on the verge of a breakout season...

 
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i'll list more as they occur to me, but for starters...

reggie williams (445) had more receiving yards than matt jones (432) last season, and almost as many receptions (35 to 36)...

not sure if i should like williams more or jones less? :)

but of course jones is the favorite to inherit abruptly retired jimmy smith's WR1 role, & didn't have that kind of opportunity last year, so his stats are more likely to zoom upwards...
Just a head's up.While I believe that Matt Jones will ultimately get the most receptions / yardage for the Jaguars this season, it is currently WR Reggie Williams that has taken over Jimmy Smith's starting position with Matt Jones slotted in as the second receiver in the offense. Reggie Williams has a real chance to surprise this season.

 
Considering the big love Eli is getting in redrafts, I was surprised to see how low his rating was last season, let alone how much it plummeted the last six weeks. Finished at 75 after dropping 10 points to finish the season.

 
Considering the big love Eli is getting in redrafts, I was surprised to see how low his rating was last season, let alone how much it plummeted the last six weeks. Finished at 75 after dropping 10 points to finish the season.
add to this a 'killer' schedule this season and he appears to be a player to avoid this season. I know I'll only select him if he is available after round ten in a fantasy draft.
 
Considering the big love Eli is getting in redrafts, I was surprised to see how low his rating was last season, let alone how much it plummeted the last six weeks. Finished at 75 after dropping 10 points to finish the season.
I forget the QB rating formula exactly but with his low percentage of completions it's pretty hard to fare well
 
Considering the big love Eli is getting in redrafts, I was surprised to see how low his rating was last season, let alone how much it plummeted the last six weeks. Finished at 75 after dropping 10 points to finish the season.
I forget the QB rating formula exactly but with his low percentage of completions it's pretty hard to fare well
Granted, but he's currently QB5 in ADP, following bro, Carson, Brady and Hasselbeck... ahead of McNabb, Bulger, and many others... considerably expensive with a 5th round ADP. Not for me, that's for sure.
 
i'll list more as they occur to me, but for starters...

reggie williams (445) had more receiving yards than matt jones (432) last season, and almost as many receptions (35 to 36)...

not sure if i should like williams more or jones less? :)

but of course jones is the favorite to inherit abruptly retired jimmy smith's WR1 role, & didn't have that kind of opportunity last year, so his stats are more likely to zoom upwards...
Just a head's up.While I believe that Matt Jones will ultimately get the most receptions / yardage for the Jaguars this season, it is currently WR Reggie Williams that has taken over Jimmy Smith's starting position with Matt Jones slotted in as the second receiver in the offense. Reggie Williams has a real chance to surprise this season.
hey chris,interesting... we seem to have been looking at conflicting reports... everything i have seen (such as below excerpt from JAX insider vic ketchman recent column found on blogger dated 7-20) suggests that jones is expected to inherit the mantle as WR1 in this offense...

http://www.jaguars.com/story/5287.asp

Ball, fate in their hands

7/20/06

(Ed. Note—This is the second installment in a five-part series that previews the positional competition in training camp. Today's installment features the wide receivers and tight ends.)

By Vic Ketchman, jaguars.com senior editor

"In their hands rest more than the football. In their hands may rest the fate of the Jaguars this season. They are the Jaguars' pass-catchers, and they are the critical players on this team because one of them or all of them have to replace the most productive player in Jaguars history.

Who will be the next Jimmy Smith? Matt Jones? Reggie Williams? Marcedes Lewis? Ernest Wilford?

Smith shocked fans when he announced his retirement just prior to the start of the spring practice season. All of a sudden, the Jaguars were without a number one receiver; without the receiver who led the team in receiving yards each of the last 10 years.

Lewis, Jones and Williams are the Jaguars' last three first-round picks, so, logically, they should be expected to represent the team's starting receiving corps. Jones is currently playing at Smith's “X” receiver position, with Williams at flanker and Lewis likely to become the team's top pass-catching tight end.

Then there's Wilford, who led the Jaguars in touchdown catches (seven) and yards per catch (16.6) last season. Wilford was second to Smith in receptions (41) and yards (681), and Wilford asks, “Why not me?” Yeah, why not Wilford, who goes into training camp as Williams' backup and the Jaguars' number three wide receiver.

All eyes are on Jones. He would seem to be the player who has the best chance of achieving stardom. Jones' rookie season was dedicated to making the transition from college quarterback to pro wide receiver. Now, he's being counted on to make the transition from prospect to play-maker.

Williams was the ninth pick of the 2004 draft. He has yet to have the kind of breakout season expected of a top 10 pick and he'll be given every opportunity in this training camp and preseason to express his talents. This could be the make-or-break year of Williams' career.

Wilford is a former fourth-round pick who lacks speed but seems to always find a way to make plays. If he jumps up again in this summer's training camp and in the preseason games, his ability must be acknowledged with increased playing time."

 
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Considering the big love Eli is getting in redrafts, I was surprised to see how low his rating was last season, let alone how much it plummeted the last six weeks. Finished at 75 after dropping 10 points to finish the season.
hey CC,i'm not as high on eli as many (for redraft, anyway... ranks very high in my estimation for dynasty purposes), but it bears mentioning that in the index they had an impressive breakdown in which he was in some historic company for among the best second years for a QB EVER (like top 5), which i think was the basis for their thinking that he is destined to become an elite QB...

 
Elis completion percentage of 52.8 was pretty pathetic for a Qb so highly regarded. He is going to have to improve dramaticly in his 3rd year to justify where people are taking him.

Dodds is projecting him to improve to 55% but Im not sure he will.

Plaxico Burress best catch percentage was in 2004 with Roth throwing to him at 58% his average prior to that was 51% and then 46% with Eli last year.

Yuck

Similarly Amani Toomer has had a pathetic catch percentage of 51.25% over the last 4 years. One good sign though is that his best % was in 2005 at 55.6%. Looks like he is slightly better as a Wr 2.

Shockey has the best career catch perentage of the starters a steady 62.2% in the 3 years prior to 2005. But this took a big hit last year and his catch percentage dropped to 53.3%

I definitly would not take Eli as high as he has been going despite the high number of pass attempts the Giants defense allows them.

 
i'll list more as they occur to me, but for starters...

reggie williams (445) had more receiving yards than matt jones (432) last season, and almost as many receptions (35 to 36)...

not sure if i should like williams more or jones less? :)

but of course jones is the favorite to inherit abruptly retired jimmy smith's WR1 role, & didn't have that kind of opportunity last year, so his stats are more likely to zoom upwards...
Just a head's up.While I believe that Matt Jones will ultimately get the most receptions / yardage for the Jaguars this season, it is currently WR Reggie Williams that has taken over Jimmy Smith's starting position with Matt Jones slotted in as the second receiver in the offense. Reggie Williams has a real chance to surprise this season.
I have been keeping extremly hush hush about this guy, but there is a reason I nabbed him in both of my dynasty leagues this year. :thumbup:
 
One of the things that was most :eek: to me as I went through player projections was that Trent Green had 4000+ passing yards again, yet only 17 TD passes. This after TD totals of 27, 24 and 26 the previous 3 years. Seems like a whole hell of a lot of yards to be passing for and not break 20 TDs. :shrug:

 
t-gon definitely felt that drop in a big way...

also, i guess that is what you get when once KC gets to the 20-30 yards line that is basically a goal line carry for LJ... :)

* i agree last year was low & probably an aberration, yet it is also a little surprising that green has done so well in the past with such a motley crew of WRs, with former journeyman & castoff eddie kennison thriving... an all time great TE like t-gone does compensate for less than stellar WRs...

 
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i'll list more as they occur to me, but for starters...

reggie williams (445) had more receiving yards than matt jones (432) last season, and almost as many receptions (35 to 36)...

not sure if i should like williams more or jones less? :)

but of course jones is the favorite to inherit abruptly retired jimmy smith's WR1 role, & didn't have that kind of opportunity last year, so his stats are more likely to zoom upwards...
Just a head's up.While I believe that Matt Jones will ultimately get the most receptions / yardage for the Jaguars this season, it is currently WR Reggie Williams that has taken over Jimmy Smith's starting position with Matt Jones slotted in as the second receiver in the offense. Reggie Williams has a real chance to surprise this season.
Yes...I drafted him as the #55 WR off the board in the Staff/Messageboard draft. I project his numbers to annihilate this year's #55 WR.

 
t-gon definitely felt that drop in a big way...

also, i guess that is what you get when once KC gets to the 20-30 yards line that is basically a goal line carry for LJ... :)

* i agree last year was low & probably an aberration, yet it is also a little surprising that green has done so well in the past with such a motley crew of WRs, with former journeyman & castoff eddie kennison thriving... an all time great TE like t-gone does compensate for less than stellar WRs...
Gonzo and Dunn were the main TDs missing last year. Dunn has chiped in 3 TD 2004 and 2003.LJ is strong. Im thinking KC did not feel a need to get cute and just gave it to him last year.

 
i'll list more as they occur to me, but for starters...

reggie williams (445) had more receiving yards than matt jones (432) last season, and almost as many receptions (35 to 36)...

not sure if i should like williams more or jones less? :)

but of course jones is the favorite to inherit abruptly retired jimmy smith's WR1 role, & didn't have that kind of opportunity last year, so his stats are more likely to zoom upwards...
Just a head's up.While I believe that Matt Jones will ultimately get the most receptions / yardage for the Jaguars this season, it is currently WR Reggie Williams that has taken over Jimmy Smith's starting position with Matt Jones slotted in as the second receiver in the offense. Reggie Williams has a real chance to surprise this season.
Yes...I drafted him as the #55 WR off the board in the Staff/Messageboard draft. I project his numbers to annihilate this year's #55 WR.
:jawdrop: Good job L(H)UCK

Why did you wait that long?

 
i'll list more as they occur to me, but for starters...

reggie williams (445) had more receiving yards than matt jones (432) last season, and almost as many receptions (35 to 36)...

not sure if i should like williams more or jones less? :)

but of course jones is the favorite to inherit abruptly retired jimmy smith's WR1 role, & didn't have that kind of opportunity last year, so his stats are more likely to zoom upwards...
Just a head's up.While I believe that Matt Jones will ultimately get the most receptions / yardage for the Jaguars this season, it is currently WR Reggie Williams that has taken over Jimmy Smith's starting position with Matt Jones slotted in as the second receiver in the offense. Reggie Williams has a real chance to surprise this season.
Yes...I drafted him as the #55 WR off the board in the Staff/Messageboard draft. I project his numbers to annihilate this year's #55 WR.
:jawdrop: Good job L(H)UCK

Why did you wait that long?
Because I expected I could. He is ranked #61 in the FBG consensus rankings. :unsure: I thought it was one of the top picks of that draft, but it has not been mentioned once in the commentary or master thread. :shrug:

 
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One of the things that was most :eek: to me as I went through player projections was that Trent Green had 4000+ passing yards again, yet only 17 TD passes. This after TD totals of 27, 24 and 26 the previous 3 years. Seems like a whole hell of a lot of yards to be passing for and not break 20 TDs. :shrug:
Hmm, I was curious. This has only happened 4 times that I could see:Year QB - Yards/TD/Int

2005 Trent Green - 4026 / 17 / 10

2002 Kerry Collins - 4056 / 19 / 14

1996 Mark Brunell - 4367 / 19 / 20

1994 Warren Moon - 4264 / 18 / 19

So it looks like Green's 17 TD's last year was an all-time record for fewest by a QB with 4000+ passing yards in a season.

 
One of the things that was most :eek: to me as I went through player projections was that Trent Green had 4000+ passing yards again, yet only 17 TD passes. This after TD totals of 27, 24 and 26 the previous 3 years. Seems like a whole hell of a lot of yards to be passing for and not break 20 TDs. :shrug:
Hmm, I was curious. This has only happened 4 times that I could see:Year QB - Yards/TD/Int

2005 Trent Green - 4026 / 17 / 10

2002 Kerry Collins - 4056 / 19 / 14

1996 Mark Brunell - 4367 / 19 / 20

1994 Warren Moon - 4264 / 18 / 19

So it looks like Green's 17 TD's last year was an all-time record for fewest by a QB with 4000+ passing yards in a season.
Good stuff, thanks! :thumbup:
 
One of the things that was most  :eek:   to me as I went through player projections was that Trent Green had 4000+ passing yards again, yet only 17 TD passes.  This after TD totals of 27, 24 and 26 the previous 3 years.  Seems like a whole hell of a lot of yards to be passing for and not break 20 TDs. :shrug:
Hmm, I was curious. This has only happened 4 times that I could see:Year QB - Yards/TD/Int

2005 Trent Green - 4026 / 17 / 10

2002 Kerry Collins - 4056 / 19 / 14

1996 Mark Brunell - 4367 / 19 / 20

1994 Warren Moon - 4264 / 18 / 19

So it looks like Green's 17 TD's last year was an all-time record for fewest by a QB with 4000+ passing yards in a season.
That tells me a lot about how successful LJ is in the redzone.
 
One of the things that was most  :eek:   to me as I went through player projections was that Trent Green had 4000+ passing yards again, yet only 17 TD passes.  This after TD totals of 27, 24 and 26 the previous 3 years.  Seems like a whole hell of a lot of yards to be passing for and not break 20 TDs. :shrug:
Hmm, I was curious. This has only happened 4 times that I could see:Year QB - Yards/TD/Int

2005 Trent Green - 4026 / 17 / 10

2002 Kerry Collins - 4056 / 19 / 14

1996 Mark Brunell - 4367 / 19 / 20

1994 Warren Moon - 4264 / 18 / 19

So it looks like Green's 17 TD's last year was an all-time record for fewest by a QB with 4000+ passing yards in a season.
QB careers since having this happen:Kerry Collins

2002 nyg | 16 | 335 545 61.5 4073 7.5 19 14 | 44 -3 0 |

| 2003 nyg | 13 | 284 500 56.8 3110 6.2 13 16 | 17 49 0 |

| 2004 oak | 14 | 289 513 56.3 3495 6.8 21 20 | 16 36 0 |

| 2005 oak | 15 | 302 565 53.5 3759 6.7 20 12 | 18 38 1 |
Mark Brunell
1996 jax | 16 | 353 557 63.4 4367 7.8 19 20 | 80 396 3 |

| 1997 jax | 14 | 264 435 60.7 3281 7.5 18 7 | 48 257 2 |

| 1998 jax | 13 | 208 354 58.8 2601 7.3 20 9 | 49 192 0 |

| 1999 jax | 15 | 259 441 58.7 3060 6.9 14 9 | 47 208 1 |

| 2000 jax | 16 | 311 512 60.7 3640 7.1 20 14 | 48 236 2 |

| 2001 jax | 15 | 289 473 61.1 3309 7.0 19 13 | 39 224 1 |

| 2002 jax | 15 | 245 416 58.9 2788 6.7 17 7 | 43 207 0 |

| 2003 jax | 3 | 54 82 65.9 484 5.9 2 0 | 8 19 1 |

| 2004 was | 9 | 118 237 49.8 1194 5.0 7 6 | 19 62 0 |

| 2005 was | 16 | 262 454 57.7 3050 6.7 23 10 | 42 111 0 |
Warren Moon
1994 min | 15 | 371 601 61.7 4264 7.1 18 19 | 27 55 0 |

| 1995 min | 16 | 377 606 62.2 4228 7.0 33 14 | 33 82 0 |

| 1996 min | 8 | 134 247 54.3 1610 6.5 7 9 | 9 6 0 |

| 1997 sea | 15 | 313 528 59.3 3678 7.0 25 16 | 17 40 1 |

| 1998 sea | 10 | 145 258 56.2 1632 6.3 11 8 | 16 10 0 |

| 1999 kan | 1 | 1 3 33.3 20 6.7 0 0 | 0 0 0 |

| 2000 kan | 2 | 15 34 44.1 208 6.1 1 1 | 2 2 0 |
Only Moon put up good TD numbers following this with Chris Carter and Jake Reed in 1995. Trent Green is quite a bit older than Collins and Brunell were when they did it. But Moon was 37 when he did it so that closer to where Green is at in his career.I think Green will better his TD totals from 2005 in 2006 as long as he stays healthy.

 

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