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[Mr.Pack]

Seems to me his intent was to have Akers kick for him. He missed that the website didn't change starting kicker for a kicker he picked up.

Akers should be in the line-up, pretty simple. Not everyone realizes that a website doesn't add a player into a starting line-up when you only have one player at that position.

yahoo kinda sucks at that.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Don't do a thing. You open yourself up for furthur issues down the road if you start setting other lineups

 

[GregR]

It is a bad idea for a commish to take on the role of setting teams lineups for them when they have the ability to do it themselves.

Either point out his lack of a kicker and let him take care of it himself, or remain silent on it. I don't really have a problem with someone taking a player to deny them to another team, so long as the player is held on their roster and not picked up and dropped to let locked waivers block him. But I don't know that I'd cut Hernandez for a kicker.

 

[Johnny Blood]

I'm sorry but I see no way this isn't just a subsidy for this negligent person who has played on yahoo for 6 YEARS.

He can still add another kicker, yet some people are saying to put Akers in.

So, suppose Akers had -2 points. You're going to FORCE those negative points on him, when he could have still picked up another kicker?

If you wouldn't force -2 down his throat when he still has the option of picking up another kicker, you have no business putting Akers in his lineup. All this stuff about "obvious intent" means nothing if you don't act on it when it HURTS him. Yet we all know there'd be a RIOT, rightfully so, if you forced a negative scoring Akers into his lineup when this person can still add another kicker.

 

[DiStefano]

You try setting the world right when the manager was negligent, and you open up a universe of trouble. What if someone is declared inactive on game day, or injured in pre-game warmups? If the manager had been paying attention, he would have dropped that player and put in someone from his bench. You going to set the world to right on that one?

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

doing anything to his lineup goes into the realm of "managing another person's team for them", and is a bad precedent. he's got all day to realize that he needs to pick up Prater. if he doesn't, then he deserves to lose. don't change anything, and don't even tell him. let him manage (or mismanage) his own team.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I'd put Akers in for him.He has no other kicker and he picked the guy up that morning - he obviously picked him up to start him. The "precedent" to treat each other fairly isn't a bad one to set.

This. Not even really a hard decision.

 

[wudaben]

I commish several money leagues amongst friends and we are generally very cut throat against each other but if the kicker he dropped was in his starting lineup at the time he dropped him then I feel that Akers should have been placed in his starting lineup. The intent was obviously there!

 

[Johnny Blood]

I'd put Akers in for him.He has no other kicker and he picked the guy up that morning - he obviously picked him up to start him. The "precedent" to treat each other fairly isn't a bad one to set.

This. Not even really a hard decision.

Hard when Akers' -2 will turn his victory into a loss, when he could have preserved victory by simply playing no kicker or picking up another kicker from the free agent pool?If you aren't willing to force an avoidable loss down his throat based on obvious intent, you have no right to touch his lineup. Yet I doubt any of you would do that, because your league would explode. So this is nothing but a subsidy for the negligent player.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

doing anything to his lineup goes into the realm of "managing another person's team for them", and is a bad precedent. he's got all day to realize that he needs to pick up Prater. if he doesn't, then he deserves to lose. don't change anything, and don't even tell him. let him manage (or mismanage) his own team.

Most leagues have a rule that all teams must field a starting line up. Most leagues when you pick up a player and drop a player will insert that player in your starting lineup, especially when it's the only player at that position. Especially since it's a yahoo/family league I would say that this is not going down the 'slipper slope'/parade of horribles that you are describing.He is not gaining any unfair advantage here, and in fact you are gaining an unfair advantage if you get to play 10 on 9 or whatever. This is as much in fairness to the other teams in the league as it is in fairness to him, actually probably moreso.

 

[morris4903]

dont change anything, dont post anything. dont pick up prater. drink beer.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I'd put Akers in for him.He has no other kicker and he picked the guy up that morning - he obviously picked him up to start him. The "precedent" to treat each other fairly isn't a bad one to set.

This. Not even really a hard decision.

Hard when Akers' -2 will turn his victory into a loss, when he could have preserved victory by simply playing no kicker or picking up another kicker from the free agent pool?If you aren't willing to force an avoidable loss down his throat based on obvious intent, you have no right to touch his lineup. Yet I doubt any of you would do that, because your league would explode. So this is nothing but a subsidy for the negligent player.

Especially as a commish you need to evaluate this from a perspective of fairness to the league. You have to quit thinking of it as a decision that only affects two teams. How much or little Akers scored if of no consequence when evaluating this decision.

 

[Johnny Blood]

I agree 100% which is why you should never put Akers in his lineup. It *does not matter* what he scored, yet any interventionist policy *WILL* take into account what he scored. Commissioners willing to put Akers in under this scenario WILL NOT do it when it costs the guy a win.

Therefore you care about the whole league and refuse to subsidize the negligent at the expense of the prudent. Interventionist policy about this stuff will only be acted upon when it helps the guy or does nothing, never when it costs him a win. No one will put Akers in and rob him of a win when he has the option of playing no kicker or adding a free agent. It'll never, ever happen.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Have you called and spoken to him about this? It's a yahoo league after all, it's not out of the realm of possibility that the site caused the error too.

Also missing here is what if any rules your league has on what to do in these kind of situations.

If he had two kickers on his roster, i think the appropriate penalty would be to start the lowest scoring player, but all teams should have to field a staring line up otherwise it is you as the guy facing him who gets the unfair advantage.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I can't believe that some of you would put points on the board off the bench. I would not play in that league again.I forgot to remove Foster in a league and meant to start Tolbert. Maybe I should complain to the commish and tell him that my intent was to start Tolbert I just forgot to start him. I bet that would go over like a wet fart.

This is different - what you are talking about is not paying attention. What this guy did is not know how the website handles free agent pickups. If he's used to Sportsline, then he would have expected the change to happen automatically. He also may have seen it in his lineup, and not realized he needed to push more buttons.My first year on MFL, I didn't "submit" a Week 2 lineup because it was the exact same as Week 1, and I didn't realize that's the website functions (or at least, how it did back then - not sure any more). My zero for the week also didn't go very well.

Understood.This is a Yahoo league. He's been in this league for 6 years using yahoo all along. This is not something new, but it definitely was a mistake on his part. I've had a team in the past forget to set his lineup and had a TE on a bye with a backup available and I've never substituted a player after the fact. This league gives negative points for a Kicker if they miss FG's or XP's. If Akers had been negative, should I have substituted him after the games reducing his score? This is why it is the owners responsibility to check his lineup so we don't run into these situations.

You illustrate why an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If your league has 0 rules on point, you should collectively draft one, as it's not something that could never happen again.most leagues, even basic ones dictate what a starting lineup will consist of. also does your league have a deputy commish/policy n place for how to resolve matters that you are one of the interested parties? Because I think in that case you should consult with the other members of your league, and not make the decision on your own. (again if you don't have a rule like this in place either, it's time to draft one of those too)

 

[Sidewinder16]

... but all teams should have to field a staring line up...

All teams should be managed by their owners, and not the commish. It should never be the commissioners responsibility to fill out lineups for other owners.

 

[No Way Jose]

If this happened on a pay site, you would be screwed.

The less a commish is involved the better. It is each owners responsibility to field their team.

Obviously the guy doesn't care, or he would have picked up Prater by now.

 

[Johnny Blood]

If all teams have to field a starting lineup, great. This guy can still add a free agent kicker so that is 100% irrelevant to this case. [if he couldn't, he would suffer whatever penalty is spelled out in your bylaws for not setting a complete lineup.]

I don't believe for one moment any sane commish is going to wake up on Monday morning and force a -2 kicker score off someone's bench, costing them the game, when that person can still add a free agent kicker. Not buying it! Unless your intention is to destroy your league.

Therefore it is nothing but a subsidy for people who are negligent at the expense of people who are not.

 

[UnderDawgs]

Leave Prater out there and post a message telling him about the empty kicker spot. It's the right thing to do. You could still end up winning, and it avoids a possible controversy. Plus, you end up looking like a legit commish instead of an ####.

Word.

 

[kardplayer]

A few thoughts:

1. I would put Akers in, even if he had negative points. I can say this with confidence, because I have no idea how much Akers scored yesterday.

2. The fact that you've been on Yahoo for 6 years mitigates the "I didn't know" factor somewhat

3. I believe the commissioner has the responsibility to make sure the league gets off on the right foot each year, and that includes making sure the initial lineup is set correctly for each team

4. The three leagues I commish don't have written rules, and we haven't had a controversy in any of them since about 1996... back when we were emailing lineups to each other. The basic rule is, "What the commish says, goes, and since the commish is a fair guy, that should work for everyone". So far, so good

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

... but all teams should have to field a staring line up...

All teams should be managed by their owners, and not the commish. It should never be the commissioners responsibility to fill out lineups for other owners.

Exactly correct. I'm amazed at how many people think the commissioner should not only run his own team, but hold every owner's hand and make sure they brush their teeth. It doesn't matter if it's a friends and family league, or a league or strangers, or a high-stakes money league. Run your own team. If you need the commish to decipher your "intent," maybe you need a different hobby that's easier to manage.It also doesn't matter if it's the commish or not. Contrary to popular opinion, the commish is also an owner and is allowed to win games without feling guilty or trying to find ways to hurt his team to show how "fair" he is. If you need training wheels, play as an assistant manager and watch someone who knows how to run a team for a year or two. Then you won't need to complain that the commissioner didn't read your mind properly.The only area where there's a valid dispute is whether or not to pick up the last remaining kicker. In that case, if it's a league of family members who don't know how to play, it's over the top and you're probably better off just leting the kicker stay out there. If people know how to play, it's appropriate to take the last kicker if you want. The waiver wire is NOT your opponent's extended bench.One caveat: It's wrong to just pick them up and drop them, locking the player. In that case you're exploiting a limitation of the website. But if you drop a player and keep the extra kicker, that's fine-- although dropping Hernandez sounds counter-productive to me.

 

[shadyridr]

If all teams have to field a starting lineup, great. This guy can still add a free agent kicker so that is 100% irrelevant to this case. [if he couldn't, he would suffer whatever penalty is spelled out in your bylaws for not setting a complete lineup.]

I don't believe for one moment any sane commish is going to wake up on Monday morning and force a -2 kicker score off someone's bench, costing them the game, when that person can still add a free agent kicker. Not buying it! Unless your intention is to destroy your league.

Therefore it is nothing but a subsidy for people who are negligent at the expense of people who are not.

Wow so win/win situation for the guy who picked up Akers to keep him on his bench! The guy is a genius!

 

[Johnny Blood]

Nope, he's lucky. If a commish wants to spend his time balancing out the luck in the universe he should find another hobby.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

A few thoughts:

1. I would put Akers in, even if he had negative points. I can say this with confidence, because I have no idea how much Akers scored yesterday.

2. The fact that you've been on Yahoo for 6 years mitigates the "I didn't know" factor somewhat

3. I believe the commissioner has the responsibility to make sure the league gets off on the right foot each year, and that includes making sure the initial lineup is set correctly for each team4. The three leagues I commish don't have written rules, and we haven't had a controversy in any of them since about 1996... back when we were emailing lineups to each other. The basic rule is, "What the commish says, goes, and since the commish is a fair guy, that should work for everyone". So far, so good

So in week 1 I could rely on you to set my lineup for me, and then complain if you put in the wrong guys? How about week five if a player is on a bye and I was really, really busy? If you have a responsibility in week 1...don't you have it in week 5? Suppose in week 10 my "intent" was to use my waiver priority on a running back who has been elevated to starter, but I was on a date and wasn't near my computer? Is it your responsibility to take care of that for me? If some of those sound absurd, why are they any sillier than making sure a week 1 lineup is set?

 

[Johnny Blood]

The answer to making sure a lineup is set is NOT moving players off the bench AFTER they have played. People are conflating two entirely distinct issues.

In my league we do require you to set a lineup, yet I would never move a player off the bench after they have played. Mainly because the essence of fantasy football is actually being able to put a player in your starting lineup before they play in real life. In fact, without that, fantasy football couldn't exist...

Yet that is totally beside the point since we're talking about someone who can simply add a free agent kicker.

 

[Mr.Pack]

I'd put Akers in for him.He has no other kicker and he picked the guy up that morning - he obviously picked him up to start him. The "precedent" to treat each other fairly isn't a bad one to set.

This. Not even really a hard decision.

 

[VaTerp]

Pick up Prater. It will teach him to pay attention.Or, if you're a progressive, give Aker enough points so that you and he tie. Everybody wins!

Why do some clowns have to always throw in ignorant political commentary when they don't know what they're talking about.Anyways, the people saying you should put Akers in for him are dead wrong. It is not your role as commish to make sure everyone fields a linueup. It's their responsibility. PERIOD. Why should the fact that it is a family/friends league make difference? If you're saying it's not that serious or competitive then the guy shouldn't be that bothered by HIS mistake.As for picking up Prater, that's entirely up to you. I would consider it if I had someone expendable on my roster but I like Hernandez so I wouldn't drop him. And here is where it being a friendly league may factor in as I would be less inclined to be as cut throat competitively.But under no circumstances should you go in and enter a player into someone's lineup without them asking you to do so BEFOREhand. It's complete garbarge.

 

[VaTerp]

... but all teams should have to field a staring line up...

All teams should be managed by their owners, and not the commish. It should never be the commissioners responsibility to fill out lineups for other owners.

Exactly correct. I'm amazed at how many people think the commissioner should not only run his own team, but hold every owner's hand and make sure they brush their teeth. It doesn't matter if it's a friends and family league, or a league or strangers, or a high-stakes money league. Run your own team. If you need the commish to decipher your "intent," maybe you need a different hobby that's easier to manage.It also doesn't matter if it's the commish or not. Contrary to popular opinion, the commish is also an owner and is allowed to win games without feling guilty or trying to find ways to hurt his team to show how "fair" he is. If you need training wheels, play as an assistant manager and watch someone who knows how to run a team for a year or two. Then you won't need to complain that the commissioner didn't read your mind properly.The only area where there's a valid dispute is whether or not to pick up the last remaining kicker. In that case, if it's a league of family members who don't know how to play, it's over the top and you're probably better off just leting the kicker stay out there. If people know how to play, it's appropriate to take the last kicker if you want. The waiver wire is NOT your opponent's extended bench.One caveat: It's wrong to just pick them up and drop them, locking the player. In that case you're exploiting a limitation of the website. But if you drop a player and keep the extra kicker, that's fine-- although dropping Hernandez sounds counter-productive to me.

A more articulate version of what my post was getting at. There is really no reasonable argument the other way.

 

[GregR]

doing anything to his lineup goes into the realm of "managing another person's team for them", and is a bad precedent. he's got all day to realize that he needs to pick up Prater. if he doesn't, then he deserves to lose. don't change anything, and don't even tell him. let him manage (or mismanage) his own team.

Most leagues have a rule that all teams must field a starting line up. Most leagues when you pick up a player and drop a player will insert that player in your starting lineup, especially when it's the only player at that position. Especially since it's a yahoo/family league I would say that this is not going down the 'slipper slope'/parade of horribles that you are describing.He is not gaining any unfair advantage here, and in fact you are gaining an unfair advantage if you get to play 10 on 9 or whatever. This is as much in fairness to the other teams in the league as it is in fairness to him, actually probably moreso.

You don't set a precedent like this because it is easy for people to abuse, and there are people who will do so. All it takes then is one guy who drops his sole kicker for a Sunday early game kicker and leaves him out of his lineup. He watches to see what the result is and if he likes it he calls on the commish to fix his lineup. If he doesn't he picks up a later game kicker and puts him in his lineup.How are you going to handle that? Are you going to force anyone who has an invalid lineup spot to take the best/worst player on their bench? What if the owner was waiting to hear late game injury info to make his pick up so it was legitimate that he was waiting? What do you do when someone drops his 7th string WR for a backup TE when his TE starter is doubtful, but forgets to start him? Are you going to remove the starting TE and insert the backup for him too if the starter doesn't play? What if the starter actually played, but you think his intent was to play the guy he picked up since he never carries backup TEs? Why would a league want to put themselves into the position of having to judge intent in situations like this?If you are going to start changing people's lineups you need extremely clearly defined rules to do so, which obviously this league doesn't have. And even then they can probably still be abused. Better is to put the responsibility for the line up on the owner where it belongs. If you have an issue with an owner not setting a lineup, doing it for him is not the solution. Either replacing him as an owner, or coming up with rules that encourage lineups be complete (such as fines or future draft pick penalties). The only time a commish should be setting someone else's lineup is when he is completely unavailable such as due to illness, family emergency, etc.In this particular case especially it shouldn't be an argument. There is a kicker available, he can go correct his mistake himself. No commish action is necessary.

 

[j3r3m3y]

seems like you already know the answer to this and just want people on this board to tell you it's Ok to screw the dude.Follow your heart my son..

I agree, play to win. Pick up the kicker and then send an email mocking the other owner.

 

[kardplayer]

A few thoughts:

1. I would put Akers in, even if he had negative points. I can say this with confidence, because I have no idea how much Akers scored yesterday.

2. The fact that you've been on Yahoo for 6 years mitigates the "I didn't know" factor somewhat

3. I believe the commissioner has the responsibility to make sure the league gets off on the right foot each year, and that includes making sure the initial lineup is set correctly for each team4. The three leagues I commish don't have written rules, and we haven't had a controversy in any of them since about 1996... back when we were emailing lineups to each other. The basic rule is, "What the commish says, goes, and since the commish is a fair guy, that should work for everyone". So far, so good

So in week 1 I could rely on you to set my lineup for me, and then complain if you put in the wrong guys? How about week five if a player is on a bye and I was really, really busy? If you have a responsibility in week 1...don't you have it in week 5? Suppose in week 10 my "intent" was to use my waiver priority on a running back who has been elevated to starter, but I was on a date and wasn't near my computer? Is it your responsibility to take care of that for me? If some of those sound absurd, why are they any sillier than making sure a week 1 lineup is set?

Not set your lineup, just make sure you have the right number of guys at each position - if you want to start Peyton Manning and Arian Foster, that's up to you, I just want to make sure you know how to use the site to do what you need to do. All of the websites are notoriously quirky at the beginning of the year - I'm guessing that's because they only have enough servers to handle normal volume, not the masses that come through Week 1 before they give up on their teams. This is the first year I can think of where a major site didn't crash on opening Sunday.

 

[Righetti]

GIve him the lowest points of the two options (kicker he has on his roster but not in his lineup and the kicker available on WW)

 

[brun]

If I had forgotten to put in a starter I wouldn't let you put him in for me. I'd rather suffer from my own mistakes than allow someone else to fix them for me. Just seems more fair to allow everyone to succeed or fail on their own.

 

[krsone21]

I don't think you should give him Akers points it was his fault for not double checking to make sure Akers was in there. However, in the past when I was playing an opponent and I noticed they didn't have a full squad I would point it out to them, I want to win a fair game not because my opponent accidently forgot to put a player in. Sometimes I don't always catch it but if I do I will say something. So if it were me I would leave Prater out there for the person to grab if they wished to do so. But I don't think your obliged to say something to that person, its up too you.

 

[krsone21]

doing anything to his lineup goes into the realm of "managing another person's team for them", and is a bad precedent. he's got all day to realize that he needs to pick up Prater. if he doesn't, then he deserves to lose. don't change anything, and don't even tell him. let him manage (or mismanage) his own team.

Most leagues have a rule that all teams must field a starting line up. Most leagues when you pick up a player and drop a player will insert that player in your starting lineup, especially when it's the only player at that position. Especially since it's a yahoo/family league I would say that this is not going down the 'slipper slope'/parade of horribles that you are describing.

He is not gaining any unfair advantage here, and in fact you are gaining an unfair advantage if you get to play 10 on 9 or whatever. This is as much in fairness to the other teams in the league as it is in fairness to him, actually probably moreso.

You don't set a precedent like this because it is easy for people to abuse, and there are people who will do so. All it takes then is one guy who drops his sole kicker for a Sunday early game kicker and leaves him out of his lineup. He watches to see what the result is and if he likes it he calls on the commish to fix his lineup. If he doesn't he picks up a later game kicker and puts him in his lineup.

How are you going to handle that? Are you going to force anyone who has an invalid lineup spot to take the best/worst player on their bench? What if the owner was waiting to hear late game injury info to make his pick up so it was legitimate that he was waiting? What do you do when someone drops his 7th string WR for a backup TE when his TE starter is doubtful, but forgets to start him? Are you going to remove the starting TE and insert the backup for him too if the starter doesn't play? What if the starter actually played, but you think his intent was to play the guy he picked up since he never carries backup TEs? Why would a league want to put themselves into the position of having to judge intent in situations like this?

If you are going to start changing people's lineups you need extremely clearly defined rules to do so, which obviously this league doesn't have. And even then they can probably still be abused. Better is to put the responsibility for the line up on the owner where it belongs. If you have an issue with an owner not setting a lineup, doing it for him is not the solution. Either replacing him as an owner, or coming up with rules that encourage lineups be complete (such as fines or future draft pick penalties).

The only time a commish should be setting someone else's lineup is when he is completely unavailable such as due to illness, family emergency, etc.

In this particular case especially it shouldn't be an argument. There is a kicker available, he can go correct his mistake himself. No commish action is necessary.

The bolded part is well said. You don't want a headache like this scenario.

 

[Daywalker]

Love how OP spent morning at 9/11 tribute. Then spent the rest of the day figuring out how to screw one of his friends or family members.

I know it's just a game and not real life. But that's the point. Guy's intent was crystal clear.

In a big money shark league you don't change a thing. But in a league of family/friends this is a no-brainer. To think that you are not only contetemplating not inserting Akers into his lineup but also how to screw him out off Prater is .

If you were my cousin I'd probably try to kick your ###.

 

[VaTerp]

Love how OP spent morning at 9/11 tribute. Then spent the rest of the day figuring out how to screw one of his friends or family members. I know it's just a game and not real life. But that's the point. Guy's intent was crystal clear.In a big money shark league you don't change a thing. But in a league of family/friends this is a no-brainer. To think that you are not only contetemplating not inserting Akers into his lineup but also how to screw him out off Prater is .If you were my cousin I'd probably try to kick your ###.

The irony. You can't take the time to make sure your lineup is set but you'd try to kick your cousin's butt over a "friendly" FF league. U ppl are sick.Again, if it's a friendly league and people cant take 30 seconds to log into a computer or phone and look at their lineup before kickoff then they should have no problem with taking a zero for THEIR mistake.Picking up Prater is debatable but there is ZERO question about whether he should insert someone in his lineup for him. Absoutley not. Sorry, There is NO credible argument the other way.

 

[footballnerd]

oh no, here we go again with a 20 page topic about babysitting other peoples starting lineups. I'm not getting in on it but I wouldn't do a thing.

 

[Daywalker]

Love how OP spent morning at 9/11 tribute. Then spent the rest of the day figuring out how to screw one of his friends or family members. I know it's just a game and not real life. But that's the point. Guy's intent was crystal clear.In a big money shark league you don't change a thing. But in a league of family/friends this is a no-brainer. To think that you are not only contetemplating not inserting Akers into his lineup but also how to screw him out off Prater is .If you were my cousin I'd probably try to kick your ###.

The irony. You can't take the time to make sure your lineup is set but you'd try to kick your cousin's butt over a "friendly" FF league. U ppl are sick.Again, if it's a friendly league and people cant take 30 seconds to log into a computer or phone and look at their lineup before kickoff then they should have no problem with taking a zero for THEIR mistake.Picking up Prater is debatable but there is ZERO question about whether he should insert someone in his lineup for him. Absoutley not. Sorry, There is NO credible argument the other way.

Fail.

 

[Jersey35]

maybe send him an email:

hey mitch- how are YOU doing? i almost FORGOT i had the privilege TO PLAY you this week. i spilled A beer on my crotch today. heres the KICKER, i just shaved my "area" and it felt great.

This is hilarious. However, you should not interfere and set a precedent for commissioner interference. In the future, if someone forgets to make a lineup adjustment , they'll be looking to you to make a change for them.If you do nothing: no warning, no lineup insertion, etc. you let nature take its course, you'll not be open to criticism, nor will you set a bad precedent. The guy will learn a lesson, or not. I'll eat my hat if anyone criticizes your decision to remain neutral.

Edited to add: if you take this advice, I urge you not to pick up Prater, since it's a friendly league - but then again, you know your leaguemates better than the rest of us. If you think everyone would get a good laugh about it, then go ahead. None of this is really all that big of a deal when all is said and done.

 

[VaTerp]

Love how OP spent morning at 9/11 tribute. Then spent the rest of the day figuring out how to screw one of his friends or family members. I know it's just a game and not real life. But that's the point. Guy's intent was crystal clear.In a big money shark league you don't change a thing. But in a league of family/friends this is a no-brainer. To think that you are not only contetemplating not inserting Akers into his lineup but also how to screw him out off Prater is .If you were my cousin I'd probably try to kick your ###.

The irony. You can't take the time to make sure your lineup is set but you'd try to kick your cousin's butt over a "friendly" FF league. U ppl are sick.Again, if it's a friendly league and people cant take 30 seconds to log into a computer or phone and look at their lineup before kickoff then they should have no problem with taking a zero for THEIR mistake.Picking up Prater is debatable but there is ZERO question about whether he should insert someone in his lineup for him. Absoutley not. Sorry, There is NO credible argument the other way.

Fail.

Well thought out response. You forgot the hashtag though. Teenager or undergrad?

 

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Is this a league of friends? If so I would probably go with his intent and give him the points for Akers. If its a more competitive situation then by all means pick up Prater and don't think twice about it.

It's family/friends. I don't think I should just give him the points. It sets a bad precedence. I'll probably just leave Prater out there. He still has a chance to pick him up and play him, if he doesn't he has no one to blame but himself.

I would go this route. I would NOT go so far as to post a message informing him as that also sets a bad precedent down the road "Why didn't anyone post a message letting ME know my guy was out?!". In a serious money league where I wasn't commish, I would go so far as to grab Prater at this point in the week... but among friends and being the commish that would be terrible form.

 

[Daywalker]

Love how OP spent morning at 9/11 tribute. Then spent the rest of the day figuring out how to screw one of his friends or family members. I know it's just a game and not real life. But that's the point. Guy's intent was crystal clear.In a big money shark league you don't change a thing. But in a league of family/friends this is a no-brainer. To think that you are not only contetemplating not inserting Akers into his lineup but also how to screw him out off Prater is .If you were my cousin I'd probably try to kick your ###.

The irony. You can't take the time to make sure your lineup is set but you'd try to kick your cousin's butt over a "friendly" FF league. U ppl are sick.Again, if it's a friendly league and people cant take 30 seconds to log into a computer or phone and look at their lineup before kickoff then they should have no problem with taking a zero for THEIR mistake.Picking up Prater is debatable but there is ZERO question about whether he should insert someone in his lineup for him. Absoutley not. Sorry, There is NO credible argument the other way.

Maybe he was rushing to get to the 9/11 tribute with his BIL? He sent in a lineup. Then dropped his only PK for Akers. Incorrectly assummed a computer would insert his ONLY PK into his starting lineup. Top it off ##### BIL, who is commish of league, is honking like a banshy outside cause he's driving.Friends/family league. Get a clue buddy.

 

[j3r3m3y]

Love how OP spent morning at 9/11 tribute. Then spent the rest of the day figuring out how to screw one of his friends or family members. I know it's just a game and not real life. But that's the point. Guy's intent was crystal clear.In a big money shark league you don't change a thing. But in a league of family/friends this is a no-brainer. To think that you are not only contetemplating not inserting Akers into his lineup but also how to screw him out off Prater is .If you were my cousin I'd probably try to kick your ###.

The irony. You can't take the time to make sure your lineup is set but you'd try to kick your cousin's butt over a "friendly" FF league. U ppl are sick.Again, if it's a friendly league and people cant take 30 seconds to log into a computer or phone and look at their lineup before kickoff then they should have no problem with taking a zero for THEIR mistake.Picking up Prater is debatable but there is ZERO question about whether he should insert someone in his lineup for him. Absoutley not. Sorry, There is NO credible argument the other way.

Fail.

You are wrong. What if the situation were slightly different and the owner with no kicker were playing someone other than the commish, do you correct his lineup still? When the other owner complains what do you tell him? "Clearly he meant to start Akers." What happens when Akers goes for negative three points and the guy loses by 1? What do you do then?Let the owners manage their own team.