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yea but they have made him at least a little better.maybe he's on greenies now.he's been off them for awhile... most benefits of steroids, at least in terms of quick twitch muscles, are short-lived gains... See, i did wonder about it
The play Denver pretty regularly.
Bumping this to bring some good info in here.
I remember the Chargers played in the snow against the Browns two or three years ago.
Name me one game that it isn't. I'm talking about the conspiracy theory some are tossing around including you. You were proven wrong but your still being a fool.The reffing in this game was absloutely awful. Are you disputing that?Good thing the refs made sure it's going to be New England/Indy in the AFC Championship! Oh wait, nevermind!
I think Green Bay could beat the Patriots. Green Bay has a good defense, and they are well balanced on offense, and can put up points just as quick as any of the others.
He can't catch his own passes, and he can't block Shawne Merriman.The standard that Manning is held to is insane. It's like he's just supposed to make his team win through sheer force of will.Hey, I like the guy a lot and he had a great game. But he had two shots to win it when the money was on the line, and he didn't get it done.Yeah, not really sure how this one is on Manning at all. Two INTs deep in SD territory that were both his receivers's fault, a couple of more balls at the end that hit his receivers right in the hands, the fumble by Harrison deep in Charger territory, and a defense that couldn't stop the second string offense of SD. Absolutely ridiculous to put that one on Manning in any way.He completed 69% of his passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs. Both INTs were the fault of the WRs. But yeah, it must be Mannings fault.
Manning also missed an open guy in the flat and forced several passes deep that weren't there. He is not free of fault.He can't catch his own passes, and he can't block Shawne Merriman.The standard that Manning is held to is insane. It's like he's just supposed to make his team win through sheer force of will.Hey, I like the guy a lot and he had a great game. But he had two shots to win it when the money was on the line, and he didn't get it done.Yeah, not really sure how this one is on Manning at all. Two INTs deep in SD territory that were both his receivers's fault, a couple of more balls at the end that hit his receivers right in the hands, the fumble by Harrison deep in Charger territory, and a defense that couldn't stop the second string offense of SD. Absolutely ridiculous to put that one on Manning in any way.He completed 69% of his passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs. Both INTs were the fault of the WRs. But yeah, it must be Mannings fault.
Funny. It seemed to me that a lot of the sentiment going into this weekend was that Indy would have an easier time with San Diego than NE would with Jacksonville.Personally, I don't think there is a lot of seperation between Indy and NE. San Diego will have to play as well as they did today to have a chance. But isn't that always the case for the road team in a playoff game?
Peyton may have had a lot of passing yards but he didn't play great. He made some bad decisions and forced a lot of tight balls, this was not a very good performance by him.Manning also missed an open guy in the flat and forced several passes deep that weren't there. He is not free of fault.He can't catch his own passes, and he can't block Shawne Merriman.The standard that Manning is held to is insane. It's like he's just supposed to make his team win through sheer force of will.Hey, I like the guy a lot and he had a great game. But he had two shots to win it when the money was on the line, and he didn't get it done.Yeah, not really sure how this one is on Manning at all. Two INTs deep in SD territory that were both his receivers's fault, a couple of more balls at the end that hit his receivers right in the hands, the fumble by Harrison deep in Charger territory, and a defense that couldn't stop the second string offense of SD. Absolutely ridiculous to put that one on Manning in any way.He completed 69% of his passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs. Both INTs were the fault of the WRs. But yeah, it must be Mannings fault.
I thought Indy was gonna crush San Diego. That's all I've been hearing all week.
That's a fair point, and to a certain extent he's a victim of his own success. He's so prolific that we expect him to be historically great in every category. I expect him to have the closing ability of Montana (and now Brady I suppose). But as great as Payton is, he's not Montana-like in that respect.Edit - but neither one of those last two passes were high-percentage. Do you blame Wayne for dropping the pass? I'll have to take another look at the Clark pass, but it seemed like it was a really tough grab.He can't catch his own passes, and he can't block Shawne Merriman.The standard that Manning is held to is insane. It's like he's just supposed to make his team win through sheer force of will.Hey, I like the guy a lot and he had a great game. But he had two shots to win it when the money was on the line, and he didn't get it done.Yeah, not really sure how this one is on Manning at all. Two INTs deep in SD territory that were both his receivers's fault, a couple of more balls at the end that hit his receivers right in the hands, the fumble by Harrison deep in Charger territory, and a defense that couldn't stop the second string offense of SD. Absolutely ridiculous to put that one on Manning in any way.He completed 69% of his passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs. Both INTs were the fault of the WRs. But yeah, it must be Mannings fault.
Yeah, a stinkin bruise.
This game was much worse than others. Even the analysts were talking about it. The conspiracy theories may be a bit far fetched but ignoring the horrible calls that went Indy's way, moreso than usual, is pretty silly.Name me one game that it isn't. I'm talking about the conspiracy theory some are tossing around including you. You were proven wrong but your still being a fool.The reffing in this game was absloutely awful. Are you disputing that?Good thing the refs made sure it's going to be New England/Indy in the AFC Championship! Oh wait, nevermind!
So, SD has beaten Indy 3 times in a row now, but, Indy would go 9-0 over the next 9?I'm mixed on the game. I don't like Indy and I hate Payton so I was glad to see the Colts lose. I also think last year's Colt's win was a fluke. The Colts won out through the playoffs last year in spite of Payton not because of him and he got all the credit.On the other hand, you might as well crown the Patriots now, because, nobody else has a prayer of beating them.
You didn't hear it from me. Think what you want, and I'm a Patriots' hater for sure, if you think SD has a chance you're setting yourself up for a huge disappointment. If you're sure they won't get crushed how about a friendly wager?
I'll make it easier. If you thought that Norv Turner would be coaching in the championship game at any point prior to them scoring their first TD today, raise your hand.
What did you think of Volek?
Wow - your blind hatred of Rivers is ridiculous.Jeff Pasquino said:Good pass by Rivers, but he committed too early to Chambers as the target. That's why Bethea was moving over to cover him and there at the right time. Bethea just screwed up. Nice TD, but if Rivers looks right just once it's not even close.Just Win Baby said:Let's hear about how bad Rivers is now. Let's hear about how the Colts are going to dominate this game now.
The other playoff games this week?Name me one game that it isn't. I'm talking about the conspiracy theory some are tossing around including you. You were proven wrong but your still being a fool.The reffing in this game was absloutely awful. Are you disputing that?Good thing the refs made sure it's going to be New England/Indy in the AFC Championship! Oh wait, nevermind!
I guess you were expecting me to have the same opinion of his play every game forever?I said that in the first half, BTW.17seconds said:
There were missed calls on both sides. If you argue it was one sided you are beleiving the conspiracy crap. You can't have it both ways.This game was much worse than others. Even the analysts were talking about it. The conspiracy theories may be a bit far fetched but ignoring the horrible calls that went Indy's way, moreso than usual, is pretty silly.Name me one game that it isn't. I'm talking about the conspiracy theory some are tossing around including you. You were proven wrong but your still being a fool.The reffing in this game was absloutely awful. Are you disputing that?Good thing the refs made sure it's going to be New England/Indy in the AFC Championship! Oh wait, nevermind!
@ colts fans who think the refs didn't suck today.
Those hurt!
You aren't really ignorant enough to believe that this Chargers team is the same one that was in the midst of starting the season 1-3, are you?
I don't believe in the conspiracy garbage but I think the refs blew more calls than usual this game.
Link? You may have been reading what you were wanting to read. See, the only ones in this thread talking about the Patriots are Patriots fans. The rest of us are talking about THIS GAME. The only mention of injuries has been applauding the Chargers for winning this game despite their key injuries, not making excuses about next week's game that hasn't even been played yet. :(
I don't think either team is.Chargers sure looked lost early on and clearly grasp things now. Brady is more comfy with his weapons now. Sammy Morris has been replaced(somewhat) by Maroney, Adalius longer in BB's system, Seymour playing etc.
Dear Chargers fan, at this point you're supposed to realize you're a little too close to the Chargers
I was going here with that. But seriously, I've seen Merriman interviewed a bunch of times and he's always well-spoken.Dear Chargers fan, at this point you're supposed to realize you're a little too close to the Chargers
You seriously missed my point. It doesn't matter what you think or what I think. The outcome of the games has nothing to do with that. Name me one analyst that didn't think today's game was going to be a Colts' blowout? See, their opinion doesn't affect the outcome of the game either, and they get paid to do this.If you really think my opinion is worth having though, I think the Patriots are the best team in the league - much better than the Chargers. The game will be closer than the last time they played, but I still think the Patriots will win. If the Chargers somehow do win though, it will explain why they actually play the game and not leave the outcome to be determined by "experts."
He surprised me. I still say Rivers is the most valuable member of that team though.
Frank Caliendo. But he was the only one.
