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DJ Hackett Free Agent (1 Viewer)
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Make it happen Carolina. His high ankle sprain should be completely healed. IMO, he's not an injury risk - sprained ankles happen. High ankle sprains happen less often. That injury was a fluke. He should be fine for 2008.
BigJim®
Footballguy
What would this indicate re: Jarrett? With S.Smith and Hackett, along with Moosh, wouldn't that leave table scraps for Jarrett into the distant future and impede his development?Make it happen Carolina. His high ankle sprain should be completely healed. IMO, he's not an injury risk - sprained ankles happen. High ankle sprains happen less often. That injury was a fluke. He should be fine for 2008.
Development Schmelopment - they could cut him. I wouldn't be that surprised if that happened. I do know they want him to succeed, but the FO is making moves to ensure their jobs in 2009. They want to win, period. Call it CYA. They can't just hope that D Jarrett improves. They have to have it covered if he does not. One side note about Hackett. There's a reason why he has not signed with TB or WAS yet - he's waiting for Carolina's offer. That's why he made them his last stop.What would this indicate re: Jarrett? With S.Smith and Hackett, along with Moosh, wouldn't that leave table scraps for Jarrett into the distant future and impede his development?Make it happen Carolina. His high ankle sprain should be completely healed. IMO, he's not an injury risk - sprained ankles happen. High ankle sprains happen less often. That injury was a fluke. He should be fine for 2008.
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redman
Footballguy
That's stronger than other reports that said he just didn't accept and that he was proceeding to other interviews. Don't know if that's the same thing though.
Max Power
Footballguy
The real mind-boggling part is that I heard it was because he doesn't see Wash as a legit SB contender...That's stronger than other reports that said he just didn't accept and that he was proceeding to other interviews. Don't know if that's the same thing though.
Yet Car and TB are?
Donnybrook
Footballguy
ProfootballTalk was estimating that Hackett would want a 7.5 M bonus. It might end up being lower now that some time has past. Washington and Carolina do not have the cap room that Tampa does, so I expect he will end up there.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Now that Bryant Johnson is signed, it appears DJ is the only worthwhile WR on the market right now unless you are looking in the discount bin. Several teams could use him.
redman
Footballguy
Washington has $8M in cap room at present, even after accounting for what it will take to sign the rookies this year. That's ample room to sign Hackett if they want him, especially considering this is likely going to be a cap hit that's spread out over 3-5 years. I doubt that cap room, at least as to the 'Skins, is what determines whether Hackett is signed.
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if he signed in Washington now. When he first left, I thought maybe he'd go elsewhere, but now that he's been in TB and CAR and neither signed him... I think he comes back to The Park.
Hackett must want some big jack, I just read that prior to signing with the Vikes that many teams were interested in Robert Ferguson, supposedly Chicago being one of them. If you look at the definition of Injury Prone you will find the name and picture of Robert Ferguson not D.J. Hackett.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Hackett is overrated on this board quite a bit. I think he'd be smart to resign in Seattle as I believe he is a system WR.....a pretty good one when healthy in Seattle.
Not true. As a Seattle homer, I can tell you that Hackett is a stud when healthy.Unfortunately that is not very often, but I agree with you in that he needs to sign a 1 year deal with Seattle to prove he can stay healthy.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
What makes you say that Hackett is not a product of the system?
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
can't speak for poster that prompted this question, but aside from his injury questions, hacket has nice combo of size, speed, hands, hops, body control, athleticism... whats not to like (other than aforementioned injury uncertainty)?its possible that he is positioned to do well in SEA because hasselbeck is a known commodity & accomplished QB, without needing to label him a system player*... i don't think campbell has attained hasselbeck's stature yet, delhomme has had his moments but i don't think has been as consistent in recent seasons... garcia has been a pretty good QB at times in the past, it is debateable whether he is as good now...
* for instance, i don't think he is alvin harper, who admittedly was a system player & one trick pony deep threat that thrived in DAL as complement to irvin, but was exposed & fell flat on his face in attempt to be more than that...
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Alvin Harper is one of the most difficult WRs to reason out why they fell flat on their face. Your first bit about physical attributes, Alvin had them and the stats too. Years later that still makes my head spin. Nonetheless, Bob your post reminded me of some former GB WRs that played for Holmgren then struggled elsewhere. Guys that FFers seemed to really be intrigued by. Remember Derrick Mayes? Terry Mickens?
Now you've got me concerned about Hackett, thanks man
I wasn't til this thread
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BigTuna
Footballguy
You should be concerned about Hackett. If he stays in Seattle he'd most certainly be the no.1 if healthy. A move to a team like Carolina would reduce his targets dramatically. Smith is the man there and would continue to get more than half of the targets. hackett would have to fight for the rest of the targets with the no. 3. Anywhere he goes where he will not be a no.1 would be a downgrade for him IMO. If he leaves seattle I probably wouldn't be able to draft him in any fantasy leagues, because I'd have him as a no.3 receiver on my board. I'll bet there were alot of people out there that drafted DJAX fairly early last year. Being Hasselbecks go-to-guy has its perks. If he leaves it'll be interesting to see how he does.Bri said:Alvin Harper is one of the most difficult WRs to reason out why they fell flat on their face. Your first bit about physical attributes, Alvin had them and the stats too. Years later that still makes my head spin. Nonetheless, Bob your post reminded me of some former GB WRs that played for Holmgren then struggled elsewhere. Guys that FFers seemed to really be intrigued by. Remember Derrick Mayes? Terry Mickens?Bob Magaw said:
Now you've got me concerned about Hackett, thanks manI wasn't til this thread
Jeff Pasquino
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omally
Footballguy
I don't think it would go that way. Sure Steve Smith is the main target on the team, but they haven't had a reliable #2 since Smith and Moose were together. Keary Colbert did a nice job his rookie season when Smith broke his leg, but he faded the next season. Smith gets doubled and tripled teamed every game, and if there is another good option to throw the ball to, Delhomme will do it.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Ok, let's make this simpler: in Seattle, Hackett has a chance to be the #1 target. In Carolina, there is no chance that he surpasses Smith as the primary option.
duece2626
Footballguy
HACKETT LANDS IN CAROLINA
Posted by Mike Florio on March 17, 2008, 12:19 p.m.
The Carolina Panthers continue to load up on pass catchers who might benefit from all the attention that Steve Smith receives.
After bringing back Muhsin Muhammad, the team has now added D.J. Hackett, formerly of the Seattle Seahawks.
Per Adam Schefter of NFL Network and Adam Caplan of Scout.com, Hackett will sign a two-year, $3.5 million deal with the Panthers.
Hackett has shown flashes of ability during his NFL career, but that potential wasn’t enough to get a team to open its wallet wider than $1.75 million per year.
Other teams interested in Hackett were the Seahawks, the Redskins, and the Buccaneers.
The Panthers also have Dwayne Jarrett, a second-round pick in 2007, and Travis Taylor, a well-traveled first-round pick of the Ravens in 2000.
Posted by Mike Florio on March 17, 2008, 12:19 p.m.
The Carolina Panthers continue to load up on pass catchers who might benefit from all the attention that Steve Smith receives.
After bringing back Muhsin Muhammad, the team has now added D.J. Hackett, formerly of the Seattle Seahawks.
Per Adam Schefter of NFL Network and Adam Caplan of Scout.com, Hackett will sign a two-year, $3.5 million deal with the Panthers.
Hackett has shown flashes of ability during his NFL career, but that potential wasn’t enough to get a team to open its wallet wider than $1.75 million per year.
Other teams interested in Hackett were the Seahawks, the Redskins, and the Buccaneers.
The Panthers also have Dwayne Jarrett, a second-round pick in 2007, and Travis Taylor, a well-traveled first-round pick of the Ravens in 2000.
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Jeff Pasquino
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redman
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm pretty blown away by how low those numbers are. I hope for Hackett's sake that a huge amount of that money is guaranteed. I'm also at a loss as to why/how the 'Skins, for whom I think Hackett would have been a great addition, didn't offer enough more to get him.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Hackett should fire his agent. That's a ridiculously low price.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
fair point, but in IND & CIN, wayne & houshmanzadeh have proven that "WR2s" can thrive in right offense...not that hackett is in their class, but they benefit from heavy attention paid to harrison & chad johnson...* now they just need to rebuild OL
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Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
The sound you hear is Dwayne Jarrett's value
circling the drain.
circling the drain.
redman
Footballguy
I agree that it's a low price, but where could Hackett have gotten a better deal such that his agent is to blame? For example, reports out of DC are that the 'Skins offered him veteran minimum plus incentives (which I think is ridiculous, but still).
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
bob - how do you feel about his prospects in carolina now that they paid him a whopping $3.5M for 2 years?
BoltBacker
Footballguy
... and one last time, I still don't think it's close.I think it is close.....
He may have signed this deal because he wanted to be in Carolina or because of some unique opportunity, but if this the money he and his agent were expecting to get, I bet there are 31 teams kicking themselves right now. I mean Indy could have signed him for this, for no other reason than "why not'. I am sure there are a couple of WR4s out there that are making more money.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
the money he made may not necessarily correspond to his opportunity... if he does well, i would expect him to get a healthy raise...wayne had a high pedigree (first round), but houshmandzadeh probably didn't get paid much initially as a lowly 7th round pick... he turned out OK...
* anyways, i was just trying to address your point that being a WR2 is necessarily a bad thing... i'm sure you wouldn't disagree with my last point... certainly it isn't very controversial to suggest that wayne & housh have benefited in the past from all the attention lavished on harrison & chad johnson... going to CAR, even if for same money as in places like SEA, WAS & TB, guarantees he gets to play across from the best WR in that group... when on top of his game, healthy & assuming delhomme is back, smith is one of top 2-3 WRs in the game, insuring he will rarely if ever be double teamed... if this helps boost his stats, he will seemingly be in line for a pay increase, if not in CAR somewhere else, in just two years (if not sooner)...
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Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
nah, i hear what you're saying. WR2 can be fine for production - but in most cases, you'd rather have the upside of a potential WR1. plus, carolina has a history of WR1 putting up great numbers (Smith, Muhammad) but not being a great place for WR2. maybe that's due to lack of talent in that spot....or maybe it's a structural component of the offense. not sure.i liked hackett much better in seattle, where he had the chance of WR1 upside. and his 2 year, $3.5M contract certainly doesn't ease my mind, the success of wayne and housh notwithstanding.
not sure why the Bills didn't try harder to sign B.Johnson or Hackett. Evans is probably going to get the franchise tag next year. They are almost locked into taking a WR in round 1 now but either of these guys would have been a perfect fit, and obviously would have come at a very reasonable price.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I've been hard on Hackett, but how can you not love this signing by Carolina? They are paying $3.5mm for 2 years for a guy who is just 26 years old and is unquestionably talented. If he can't stay healthy (a problem thus far in his career), they have no lasting financial issues and can explore other options. Yet they could potentially have landed an impact young receiver to complement Steve Smith, arguably the most doubled receiver in the league the last few years.
Some statistical tidbits regarding DJ Hackett
Hackett's (non PPR) FP/gm in 2007 was better than Berrian, Driver, Burleson, Chambers, L. Evans and Calvin Johnson
In his six starts in 2007, Hackett had three 100-yard games, four TDs, 29 receptions (4.8 per game) and four of those six games he had at least 6 receptions.
He also had two games of 10 targets or moreKeep in mind this was with a Seattle team that relied heavily on the passing game in 2007, but when called upon Hackett didn't disappoint. The only major knock with Hackett is his injury history. If he can stay healthy in 2008 he could be the biggest FA pick up this off season. While there are some ifs involved with Hackett, there's also a lot of promise that he will elevate the Panthers WR corps, which is what Carolina has been searching for since 2003.
Hackett's (non PPR) FP/gm in 2007 was better than Berrian, Driver, Burleson, Chambers, L. Evans and Calvin Johnson
In his six starts in 2007, Hackett had three 100-yard games, four TDs, 29 receptions (4.8 per game) and four of those six games he had at least 6 receptions.
He also had two games of 10 targets or moreKeep in mind this was with a Seattle team that relied heavily on the passing game in 2007, but when called upon Hackett didn't disappoint. The only major knock with Hackett is his injury history. If he can stay healthy in 2008 he could be the biggest FA pick up this off season. While there are some ifs involved with Hackett, there's also a lot of promise that he will elevate the Panthers WR corps, which is what Carolina has been searching for since 2003.
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