Do you ever do anything to intentionally be a jerk? (1 Viewer)

[Mario Kart]

I save really nasty farts for the crowded subway

I like to eat gassy food (roasted salmon and Guinness beer will load me up with some foul rancid gas) the night before I have a flight

Nothing better than knowing you can't crack a window and I'm walking up and down the rows just laying a green mist behind me

I prefer to bring tuna aboard for my snack. Or, an egg salad sandwich.

 

[PIK95]

I start traffic arguments on message boards for fun.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I leave the toilet seat up everywhere I go.

Do you ever not flush so that other dudes can smell your turds?

Whoa, hey ..what are you an animal?

AND...put a buddy's business card on top of it

 

[Das Boot]

I once invented a glasses handle for eyeglasses that I thought was a wonderful product until long-term it started making people crosseyed. Not intentional, but jerkish for sure.

Sounds like you found your special purpose.

 

[fantasycurse42]

This happens more at holiday time but if I'm walking to my car in a busy parking lot and someone is just waiting for me to get to my car, I will turn in by a car and pretend my car is in the other row. Then, when the car waiting continues forward, I will double back and get into my car so the car waiting behind the initial car will get my spot.

The best cars to do this to are mini-vans and trucks.

My father has done this sort of thing although he really sells it. He will stand next to the driver's door and take out his keys and pretend he is about to open the door. Then he turns around and walks toward the next row.

This is the definition of intentional jerkism. No reason to do this.

These are the kind of things I'm looking for here... I know there are a ton of #######s out there just for the point of it, who else does #### like this?

 

[tommyboy]

I go to Starbucks just to argue w baristas about race relations

 

[sbonomo]

if I am in the passing lane and am leaving a safe distance between me and the car in front of me and a car comes up on the right side and I can tell they are going to want to cut in front of me, I will intentionally speed up at the last few moments (this is key) to prevent that from happening......I hate it when some people think they and their schedule is more important than anybody else on the road.....watching them have to slam on the brakes gives me a good feeling for some reason and probably makes me a bad person and a dangerous driver, but I do get some sense of satisfaction out of it for some reason......if possible, I will also then try and slow down a little (boxing the arsewipe in) in hopes of cars now behind me catching up enough so that arsewipe can't even get in behind me....my wife hates this stealthy ninja maneuver when riding with me and gives me the "just let them do what they need to do you are going to get us killed " lecture, but the satisfaction I receive is worth the verbal talking too.....

Okay let me understand this. I am going to assume you are still passing just leaving a safe distance between you and the car in front of you which is fine. Now if you are in the passing lane not passing, I hate you people. At a minimum you should get a ticket for not following traffic laws. I personally race cars on the weekend so i am very comfortable maneuvering in very tight quarters at very high speeds which will generally scare the chit out people that are not used to that style of driving. For those of you that think it is okay to speed up only to go the same speed as the car in front of you believe me, I will get by and when I do it wont be fun for you.

Honest question, if you are going the same speed as the person next to you why not open the fast lane?

that ain't happening...

I hate slow pass lane drivers.....hate em.....call em sidlers......takes forever to pass.....semis can be the worst and I think they do it sometimes just to piss people off......but I also hate jerk wad who thinks his schedule is more important than the rest of us and that the "gap" is left there solely to allow him room to cut in front of me so he can pass first....

I would get in....believe me.

Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

my bad Ricky Bobby....

sorry grandpa. I think it is about time to give up the DL. It will happen to all of us.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I drive about 40k miles a year in the MD/DC/VA metropolitan area. I am right and you are wrong.

These are your 10 commandments of driving:​

I'll pass your asses on the left and right and you'll like it. People have places to go and #### to do. (Not talking passing over double lines or single lanes)

If you're in the leftmost lane and a car approaches from behind, you move to the right. Always. Don't be a ####.

Learn and properly use the merge lanes.

You can make a right on red unless there's a sign stating not to, however, you should always come to a complete stop prior to turning.

The zip method is more efficient***. I understand the natural reaction to cars flying by you on your right and getting in front of you as their lane ends while as you stand still like a good little boy or girl. You get angry and think it's unfair. It's not. The reason your lane is clogged is because more people aren't riding out the end of the lane. People bog things down when they realize they need to eventually get over and start hitting the brakes and trying to veer into the left lane. I used to be like you, but there's a reason the right lanes where everybody is doing all this butting are STILL faster then those gridlocked left lanes.

*** _This does not apply to those jerks who cut in and out of the right lanes that have cars parked just ahead or lanes that close immediately after the light that results in the right lane driving speeding in excess and cutting off the left lane drivers natural speed. (See the golden rule at the end)

When entering a shopping area, don't stop unless there's a stop sign!!!!!!!!!!

Right of way. Learn the right of way rules and ALWAYS follow them. Sometimes you think you are being polite by letting a car go ahead when you actually have the right of way. You're not polite, you're a ####### imbecile and creating at least a confusing situation and at worst a dangerous situation.

Driving comes before all communication. Some people can text and drive, however most people can't. Nobody should really be texting while driving.

If you miss your turn you keep going and make a u-turn or other ways. - What you don't do, and this is a relatively new phenomenon of drivers looking up from their cell phones and realizing they're about to miss their exit or turn and literally stop 4 lanes of traffic so they're not inconvenienced. I want to quit my job and join the police force so I can haul these dudes off to jail every time I see it.

The golden rule.....when in doubt, do what you must, however never inconvenience another driver.

Most of the pompousness is tongue in cheek but I firmly believe most of what I wrote. I realize my sample size is different then most of I honestly believe there should be a nationwide campainge to teach basic driving ettiqute and more stringient testing at the MVA. It needs to be hard to get a drivers license.

That seems like 11. I would have liked you to number them.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Those of you who change your own speed or behavior to intentionally block other people from driving their speed are the worst sort of people. This is true whether you are blocking the passing lanes or speeding up to prevent others from merging in.

Really, just horrible, small minded people who make the rest of the world worse for absolutely no personal gain

The personal gain is that we are in front of you and at the moment that's all that matters.

 

[weevil]

Unless your elderly or disabled I won't hold doors open for able bodied people who speed up and try and use you as a doorman.

 

[Harry Manback]

I also have small dislike for the people that are in the right lane at a busy intersection where a lot of people are going to turn right, but they aren't......and they sit there through the whole light....

granted I don't how long after the intersection they will need to turn right, but I know that if I am planning on going straight through an intersection I will often try to stay in the left lane so that the people behind me that want to go right can maybe get through with the right turn on red thing......and often, even if I have to turn right pretty quickly after the intersection, odds are one or more of the cars in the right lane behind me made a right turn so there is room for me to get over pretty quickly....

I think this courtesy is way under used.....if you are going straight for a while....stay in the left lane...

And get stuck behind cars waiting to turn left?

 

[pantagrapher]

This happens more at holiday time but if I'm walking to my car in a busy parking lot and someone is just waiting for me to get to my car, I will turn in by a car and pretend my car is in the other row. Then, when the car waiting continues forward, I will double back and get into my car so the car waiting behind the initial car will get my spot.

The best cars to do this to are mini-vans and trucks.

My father has done this sort of thing although he really sells it. He will stand next to the driver's door and take out his keys and pretend he is about to open the door. Then he turns around and walks toward the next row.

This is the definition of intentional jerkism. No reason to do this.

Seriously, this is the perfect jerk move. I'd never do it, but I applaud its simple jerkitude.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

This happens more at holiday time but if I'm walking to my car in a busy parking lot and someone is just waiting for me to get to my car, I will turn in by a car and pretend my car is in the other row. Then, when the car waiting continues forward, I will double back and get into my car so the car waiting behind the initial car will get my spot.

The best cars to do this to are mini-vans and trucks.

My father has done this sort of thing although he really sells it. He will stand next to the driver's door and take out his keys and pretend he is about to open the door. Then he turns around and walks toward the next row.

This is the definition of intentional jerkism. No reason to do this.

Seriously, this is the perfect jerk move. I'd never do it, but I applaud its simple jerkitude.

I like when I am just going out to the car to put some bags in it so I don't have to carry them around, and some person thinks I'm leaving and waits for my spot. When I don't leave they get all pissed at me like I've done something wrong.

 

[wikkidpissah]

I love pointing out to young women who cut in or block flow or basically think this fat ol' man will defer to them, that they are not hot enough to get away with that act (even if they are hot enough to think so).

 

[Fat Nick]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

 

[Fat Nick]

I like when I am just going out to the car to put some bags in it so I don't have to carry them around, and some person thinks I'm leaving and waits for my spot. When I don't leave they get all pissed at me like I've done something wrong.

x2. I actually look forward to taking bags back to the car during the holidays just for this reason. "Honey, want me to take those back to the car?" [grin]

 

[pantagrapher]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

He's probably one of those jerks with a tricked-out exhaust and a spoiler on the back of his Accord.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I also have small dislike for the people that are in the right lane at a busy intersection where a lot of people are going to turn right, but they aren't......and they sit there through the whole light....

granted I don't how long after the intersection they will need to turn right, but I know that if I am planning on going straight through an intersection I will often try to stay in the left lane so that the people behind me that want to go right can maybe get through with the right turn on red thing......and often, even if I have to turn right pretty quickly after the intersection, odds are one or more of the cars in the right lane behind me made a right turn so there is room for me to get over pretty quickly....

I think this courtesy is way under used.....if you are going straight for a while....stay in the left lane...

And get stuck behind cars waiting to turn left?

sorry....guess I should have said "middle"..... I was referring to the left most lane of the two lanes that could go straight through the intersection...

 

[Fat Nick]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

He's probably one of those jerks with a tricked-out exhaust and a spoiler on the back of his RACE CAR! Accord.

Before he gets mad and brake checks us "inferior" drivers...

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I leave the toilet seat up everywhere I go.

Do you ever not flush so that other dudes can smell your turds?

Took a workmates phone one time while he was in a meeting. Took a big nasty dump and proceeded to take a picture of said dump and then made that his wallpaper of his phone and also sent the picture of it to about 20 other workmates

 

[Harry Manback]

I also have small dislike for the people that are in the right lane at a busy intersection where a lot of people are going to turn right, but they aren't......and they sit there through the whole light....

granted I don't how long after the intersection they will need to turn right, but I know that if I am planning on going straight through an intersection I will often try to stay in the left lane so that the people behind me that want to go right can maybe get through with the right turn on red thing......and often, even if I have to turn right pretty quickly after the intersection, odds are one or more of the cars in the right lane behind me made a right turn so there is room for me to get over pretty quickly....

I think this courtesy is way under used.....if you are going straight for a while....stay in the left lane...

And get stuck behind cars waiting to turn left?

sorry....guess I should have said "middle"..... I was referring to the left most lane of the two lanes that could go straight through the intersection...

Ah, that's a given.

I do feel bad when I'm in the right lane of a 2 lane road, and someone behind me has a blinker on.

But I'm not about to be stuck behind someone turning left, and chance missing my light, so someone doesn't have to wait an additional 15 seconds to turn right on red.

 

[pantagrapher]

I leave the toilet seat up everywhere I go.

Do you ever not flush so that other dudes can smell your turds?

Took a workmates phone one time while he was in a meeting. Took a big nasty dump and proceeded to take a picture of said dump and then made that his wallpaper of his phone and also sent the picture of it to about 20 other workmates

This isn't jerky as much as it's bizarre and disgusting.

 

[chet]

In my latest jerk move, I am borrowing some of these and posting elsewhere.

 

[arrow1]

I will intentionally block the people on the airplane that try to get up right away and scoot forward. Didn't get up fast enough to block the husband on my last flight, but was able to cut off the wife. He got pretty far up there and kept waiving for her to come up. She asked if she could get by and I said no.

I let all the rows ahead go then causing about 25 people to be in between them.

 

[Fat Nick]

I leave the toilet seat up everywhere I go.

Do you ever not flush so that other dudes can smell your turds?

Took a workmates phone one time while he was in a meeting. Took a big nasty dump and proceeded to take a picture of said dump and then made that his wallpaper of his phone and also sent the picture of it to about 20 other workmates

This belongs in the office pranks thread...if it survived the purge.

 

[sbonomo]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

No, i don't typically brake check people. I was illustrating a hypothetical situation above. You are right, if were to brake check that idiot, he would probably kill himself and other around him.

As usual you read something somewhere and have decided that you are an expert. You are partially correct, stopping faster is a function of brake setup and tires. You are completely wrong about stopping "faster". My brakes are race grade on all of my cars because i want the ability to stop quickly meaning that there are larger calipers and rotors. This is to displace heat better as you mention above, but also to stop faster. You are completely wrong about the pads. There are many different compounds that are used in a brake pad. I of course use the most agressive which wear out the pad and rotor much faster I am ok with this. You are wrong about tires. I don't know any idiot that runs an R type on the road. It is a waste of money and flat out scary if it rains. So i run a high quality Z rated tire for street applications. No need to warm them up outside of normal driving. You are a truely annoying no-it-all

 

[sbonomo]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

He's probably one of those jerks with a tricked-out exhaust and a spoiler on the back of his Accord.

BMW M3 is my dedicated track car and Mercedes AMG 550 is my daily driver - Let me guess you have a used mini van?

 

[Uwe Blab]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

He's probably one of those jerks with a tricked-out exhaust and a spoiler on the back of his Accord.

BMW M3 is my dedicated track car and Mercedes AMG 550 is my daily driver - Let me guess you have a used mini van?

Look at this guy.

 

[Harry Manback]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

No, i don't typically brake check people. I was illustrating a hypothetical situation above. You are right, if were to brake check that idiot, he would probably kill himself and other around him.

As usual you read something somewhere and have decided that you are an expert. You are partially correct, stopping faster is a function of brake setup and tires. You are completely wrong about stopping "faster". My brakes are race grade on all of my cars because i want the ability to stop quickly meaning that there are larger calipers and rotors. This is to displace heat better as you mention above, but also to stop faster. You are completely wrong about the pads. There are many different compounds that are used in a brake pad. I of course use the most agressive which wear out the pad and rotor much faster I am ok with this. You are wrong about tires. I don't know any idiot that runs an R type on the road. It is a waste of money and flat out scary if it rains. So i run a high quality Z rated tire for street applications. No need to warm them up outside of normal driving. You are a truely annoying no-it-all

Truly*

Does this count as being a jerk intentionally?

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I would get in....believe me.

Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

He's probably one of those jerks with a tricked-out exhaust and a spoiler on the back of his Accord.

BMW M3 is my dedicated track car and Mercedes AMG 550 is my daily driver - Let me guess you have a used mini van?

Umm, sure they are.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

BMW M3 is my dedicated track car and Mercedes AMG 550 is my daily driver - Let me guess you have a used mini van?

This is pretty good intentional jerkiness right here.

 

[Fat Nick]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

No, i don't typically brake check people. I was illustrating a hypothetical situation above. You are right, if were to brake check that idiot, he would probably kill himself and other around him.

As usual you read something somewhere and have decided that you are an expert. You are partially correct, stopping faster is a function of brake setup and tires. You are completely wrong about stopping "faster". My brakes are race grade on all of my cars because i want the ability to stop quickly meaning that there are larger calipers and rotors. This is to displace heat better as you mention above, but also to stop faster. You are completely wrong about the pads. There are many different compounds that are used in a brake pad. I of course use the most agressive which wear out the pad and rotor much faster I am ok with this. You are wrong about tires. I don't know any idiot that runs an R type on the road. It is a waste of money and flat out scary if it rains. So i run a high quality Z rated tire for street applications. No need to warm them up outside of normal driving. You are a truely annoying no-it-all

I'll be short and to the point here...I didn't read anything. I've raced my share of cars too. My current car is a modified Porsche Cayman S that's been tracked several times. Before that I had a modified G35..but in case you want to read something, read THIS from Car and Driver. It basically reiterates everything I said above about stopping. Some highlights:

"But every car has brakes strong enough for the anti-lock system to hold its tires on the verge of lockup for at least one stop." - This is my point that for 1 stop, your brakes are of minmial importance because the MOST a brake can do is lock up a spinning wheel.

"when a vehicle’s brakes are cold, the stopping distance is more dependent on the traction of the tires than the power of the brakes." To my comment on tires being more important...

"just about every vehicle has one good stop in it, only the best vehicles can maintain their braking performance during hot laps on a racetrack" - To my comment on brake fade...

So I'll stand by my statement that "race brakes" are of minimal difference in the on-highway situation described above. Sure, your car may stop faster than most, but it's likely a factor of the weight of the car and overall grip than the "race brakes." Also, most "race brakes," like "race tires" perform better when warm. That's why they make street pads. I had Hawk race brake pads on my G35...I hated them for the street. They weren't nearly as grippy in every-day driving because they ran too cold.

As for the tires, thanks for the clarification...You said: " Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them."

How in the #### would anyone deduce from that that you run "high quality Z rated tires for street applications" and not R rated stickers on the road? RACE tires is what you said. Most would infer "race" tires to be stickers...which woudl be insane to use on the highway, but then again, so are people who brake check, so there's that. Z-rated tires are road tires. High performance tires, but they're DOT legal. NOT RACE tires. I run "high quality Z rated tires" on my Cayman. They're good tires. They'd help me stop faster than the mini van behind me...but I don't think that they're unique to me.

Lastly, it's "annoying KNOW-it-all." We've been asked nicely not to use the word "annoying" here, so you can just call me a know-it-all. I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, but you're also spouting information that isn't correct, which IMO is much worse.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I would get in....believe me.

Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

No, i don't typically brake check people. I was illustrating a hypothetical situation above. You are right, if were to brake check that idiot, he would probably kill himself and other around him. As usual you read something somewhere and have decided that you are an expert. You are partially correct, stopping faster is a function of brake setup and tires. You are completely wrong about stopping "faster". My brakes are race grade on all of my cars because i want the ability to stop quickly meaning that there are larger calipers and rotors. This is to displace heat better as you mention above, but also to stop faster. You are completely wrong about the pads. There are many different compounds that are used in a brake pad. I of course use the most agressive which wear out the pad and rotor much faster I am ok with this. You are wrong about tires. I don't know any idiot that runs an R type on the road. It is a waste of money and flat out scary if it rains. So i run a high quality Z rated tire for street applications. No need to warm them up outside of normal driving. You are a truely annoying no-it-all

Know it all btwI just want to be annoying

 

[pantagrapher]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

He's probably one of those jerks with a tricked-out exhaust and a spoiler on the back of his Accord.

BMW M3 is my dedicated track car and Mercedes AMG 550 is my daily driver - Let me guess you have a used mini van?

Translation: you have a Civic del Sol you drive to work and you borrow your wife's PT Cruiser for grocery shopping.

 

[pantagrapher]

"Hey, bro, can you photoshop me into this picture of a Mercedes?"

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Whoa guys! Check out this sweet Mercedes! Take a picture of me parking it but Photoshop my valet jacket out so it looks like I own it

 

[tommyboy]

this thread just got a lot better and it was already awesome

 

[Fat Nick]

"Hey, bro, can you photoshop me into this picture of a Mercedes?"

FWIW - I believe him re. the cars he has. He's posted about them before...but the whole "race brakes and tires" thing and the overall arrogance about driving and all are a bit much.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

"Hey, bro, can you photoshop me into this picture of a Mercedes?"

FWIW - I believe him re. the cars he has. He's posted about them before...but the whole "race brakes and tires" thing and the overall arrogance about driving and all are a bit much.

The bolded needs editing.

 

[Fat Nick]

"Hey, bro, can you photoshop me into this picture of a Mercedes?"

FWIW - I believe him re. the cars he has. He's posted about them before...but the whole "race brakes and tires" thing and the overall arrogance about driving and all are a bit much Annyong as ####.

The bolded needs editing.

Better? Trying to please everyone here.

 

[chet]

Just to lower the tension, I will share an onpoint story where I was a bit of a jerk. A couple of summers ago, I was invited to a track day by Lamborghini Chicago. There was an instructor with me on all laps. On one of the circuits, I purposefully entered a turn too quickly and made the instructor yell at me to slow down. I bet he thought that was jerky behaviour.

 

[sbonomo]

BMW M3 is my dedicated track car and Mercedes AMG 550 is my daily driver - Let me guess you have a used mini van?

This is pretty good intentional jerkiness right here.

 

[sbonomo]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

No, i don't typically brake check people. I was illustrating a hypothetical situation above. You are right, if were to brake check that idiot, he would probably kill himself and other around him.

As usual you read something somewhere and have decided that you are an expert. You are partially correct, stopping faster is a function of brake setup and tires. You are completely wrong about stopping "faster". My brakes are race grade on all of my cars because i want the ability to stop quickly meaning that there are larger calipers and rotors. This is to displace heat better as you mention above, but also to stop faster. You are completely wrong about the pads. There are many different compounds that are used in a brake pad. I of course use the most agressive which wear out the pad and rotor much faster I am ok with this. You are wrong about tires. I don't know any idiot that runs an R type on the road. It is a waste of money and flat out scary if it rains. So i run a high quality Z rated tire for street applications. No need to warm them up outside of normal driving. You are a truely annoying no-it-all

I'll be short and to the point here...I didn't read anything. I've raced my share of cars too. My current car is a modified Porsche Cayman S that's been tracked several times. Before that I had a modified G35..but in case you want to read something, read THIS from Car and Driver. It basically reiterates everything I said above about stopping. Some highlights:

"But every car has brakes strong enough for the anti-lock system to hold its tires on the verge of lockup for at least one stop." - This is my point that for 1 stop, your brakes are of minmial importance because the MOST a brake can do is lock up a spinning wheel.

"when a vehicle’s brakes are cold, the stopping distance is more dependent on the traction of the tires than the power of the brakes." To my comment on tires being more important...

"just about every vehicle has one good stop in it, only the best vehicles can maintain their braking performance during hot laps on a racetrack" - To my comment on brake fade...

So I'll stand by my statement that "race brakes" are of minimal difference in the on-highway situation described above. Sure, your car may stop faster than most, but it's likely a factor of the weight of the car and overall grip than the "race brakes." Also, most "race brakes," like "race tires" perform better when warm. That's why they make street pads. I had Hawk race brake pads on my G35...I hated them for the street. They weren't nearly as grippy in every-day driving because they ran too cold.

As for the tires, thanks for the clarification...You said: " Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them."

How in the #### would anyone deduce from that that you run "high quality Z rated tires for street applications" and not R rated stickers on the road? RACE tires is what you said. Most would infer "race" tires to be stickers...which woudl be insane to use on the highway, but then again, so are people who brake check, so there's that. Z-rated tires are road tires. High performance tires, but they're DOT legal. NOT RACE tires. I run "high quality Z rated tires" on my Cayman. They're good tires. They'd help me stop faster than the mini van behind me...but I don't think that they're unique to me.

Lastly, it's "annoying KNOW-it-all." We've been asked nicely not to use the word "annoying" here, so you can just call me a know-it-all. I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, but you're also spouting information that isn't correct, which IMO is much worse.

You keep quoting an average soccer mom car in comparison an upgraded version of a sports car. I think your Caymen comes stock with four piston Brembo's right? If you think that won’t stop faster than a dodge minivan you are truly an idiot. Put your money where your mouth is if you are so sure of your arguments above: I have $1,000 that my m3 stops faster, one time per your criteria, than the average car you quoted above. I also will bet that same $1,000 that my m3 stops substantially faster than a stock M3. Same car with completely different brake system, pads, fluids, etc.

 

[sbonomo]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

He's probably one of those jerks with a tricked-out exhaust and a spoiler on the back of his Accord.

BMW M3 is my dedicated track car and Mercedes AMG 550 is my daily driver - Let me guess you have a used mini van?

Look at this guy.

Jealous?

 

[sbonomo]

I would get in....believe me.
Some of us actually have things to do. waiting on a driver to take his/her sweet time passing is not one of them. I guarantee i am a better driver than you are regardless of how you think i am driving. If you are not in a hurry, get the heck out of the way. believe me, you don't want to be "brake checked" by me. Everyone of my cars have race brakes and tires on them. I can stop at least twice a fast as you.

I don't know if you're fishing or not, but seriously?

Brake checking is one of the single most dangerous things you can do. I'd say it's more dangerous than blocking the left lane OR passing on the right. Very few things piss me off more than brake checking...especially from someone who just cut in front of me.

FWIW - being able to get your car into a space doesn't make you a "better driver." Anybody can drive like an ###hole. I can "get in," if I want to drive like an ### because most drivers drive to avoid accidents, so they'd slow before you hit them or vice versa.

Also, I don't get bragging about the fact that you can intentionally stop your "race cars" so fast that if you brake checked someone, they'd probably hit you. Good for you. Oh, and just for the record, most race brakes aren't designed to make the car stop all that much FASTER. Tires are typically the limiting factor in stopping distance. That's why they have anti-lock breaking systems...the brakes stop the wheel/tire dead, and the tire can't grip...Race brakes are bigger and vented to better dissipate heat and reduce brake fade...so unless you're brake checking people every couple seconds for a long time, it probably won't make a marginal difference. And "race tires" are only as good as their conditions. "Race" tires are usually designed to run warm on a track. Most road driving doesn't have enough turning to heat the tires up to optimal grip (This is why NASCAR guys swerve left and right during cautions...to keep the tire temp up). So most likely, your "race tires" aren't that great on the highway either...unless you're just talking about the normal high-performance tires that most anyone with a decent sports car has.

He's probably one of those jerks with a tricked-out exhaust and a spoiler on the back of his Accord.

BMW M3 is my dedicated track car and Mercedes AMG 550 is my daily driver - Let me guess you have a used mini van?

Translation: you have a Civic del Sol you drive to work and you borrow your wife's PT Cruiser for grocery shopping.

Next time you are in the bay area, i will take you out to sonoma raceway with me. Open invite.

 

[sbonomo]

"Hey, bro, can you photoshop me into this picture of a Mercedes?"

Are you that envious of people that drive a Mercedes? Never been in one? Possibly had a bad experience in one?

 

[Keerock]

"Hey, bro, can you photoshop me into this picture of a Mercedes?"

Are you that envious of people that drive a Mercedes? Never been in one? Possibly had a bad experience in one?

First time I got laid was in a car like this... (but that's a story for another time)

 

[IC FBGCav]

"Hey, bro, can you photoshop me into this picture of a Mercedes?"

Are you that envious of people that drive a Mercedes? Never been in one? Possibly had a bad experience in one?

First time I got laid was in a car like this... (but that's a story for another time)

Was he in love with his car?

 

[Stinkin Ref]

No, i don't typically brake check people. I was illustrating a hypothetical situation above. You are right, if were to brake check that idiot, he would probably kill himself and other around him.

As usual you read something somewhere and have decided that you are an expert. You are partially correct, stopping faster is a function of brake setup and tires. You are completely wrong about stopping "faster". My brakes are race grade on all of my cars because i want the ability to stop quickly meaning that there are larger calipers and rotors. This is to displace heat better as you mention above, but also to stop faster. You are completely wrong about the pads. There are many different compounds that are used in a brake pad. I of course use the most agressive which wear out the pad and rotor much faster I am ok with this. You are wrong about tires. I don't know any idiot that runs an R type on the road. It is a waste of money and flat out scary if it rains. So i run a high quality Z rated tire for street applications. No need to warm them up outside of normal driving. You are a truely annoying no-it-all

you're getting owned in here so I don't really need to pile on but I found it somewhat scary that if you intentionally braked checked someone you just cut in front of cause you didn't like the way they drive..... "he" (the idiot)....not you (non idiot)....would be the one responsible for killing himself and others......

 

[Eminence]

I intentionally sit at drive thrus for an extra amount of time if there's a line forming behind me. I'll ask a variety of dumb questions. Roll my car forward slightly, stop. Continue forward.

Fumble with change at the 2nd window, etc.