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Do you support banning all guns (1 Viewer)
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Navin Johnson
Footballguy
This. I see one guy defending the position ITT yet over 30 voted yes. The right needs their boogeyman to gin up the masses.The Commish said:
The Commish
Footballguy
It happens every time in these things....this one lagged behind, then BAM a bunch of votes
Toby2ElectricBugaloo
Footballguy
I had to track this back a while to figure out what point was being made, not entirely clear but it seems tied to social media being controlled by "the left."
That may or may not be true, but this data proves nothing. It's penny-ante stuff, a record of individual contributions of employees who could be anyone from a CFO to a mail room clerk, totaling (according to the article) $2.4 million from Facebook employees and $347,000 from Twitter employees. And no indication that these people have any particular management influence. Peter Thiel alone donates more than that to conservatives every few weeks.
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ZADO
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SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
what a ridiculous collection of statements. each party has a platform. you are suggesting that any member of any party MUST support each plank within his or her party's platform. that's not participation in the democratic process; that's fascism.
Terminalxylem
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Terminalxylem
Footballguy
You’re diluting the data by looking at all gun homicides - the intent of the assault weapons ban was to reduce the lethality of mass shootings.
When you look at it that way, the results were mixed, likely because of loopholes in the law.
Terminalxylem
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Toby2ElectricBugaloo
Footballguy
“My reaction is that this was a carefully orchestrated attempt to convert official government election offices into get-out-the-vote operations for one political party and to insert political operatives into election offices in order to influence and manipulate the outcome of the election,” said von Spakovsky, a Republican who now runs the Heritage Foundation’s Election Law Reform Initiative.
I'm not sure why we're even talking about this, everyone acknowledges there's lots of money in politics including tech money. You all want to get the money out of it, great, count me in.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-9mm-guns-texas-uvalde-mass-shooting
SMH. Biden just torpedoed any gun control debate.
SMH. Biden just torpedoed any gun control debate.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Like I've said previously, that's the goal. All this talk of "compromise" by the left is just hot air. Every move they make is a move towards banning all guns. How do we know this? They tell us EVERY DAY.
So while posters in here SAY they don't want to ban guns, that's irrelevant. Their leaders that they vote for and other high-profile voices are saying something very different.
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matttyl
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No one is saying they are unwilling to engage in gun control legislation, of course they are and absolutely had to after Sandy Hook and again have to now. The original statement (made by someone else) was that a primary reason it won’t (or up to this point hasn’t) gotten done is due to the Republicans. And I generally vote Republican. Anyone half decent politician will engage in debate and back and forth about any topic, that’s what our government is built on.
Let's be honest here. The GOP wasn't going to agree to any changes of any kind regardless, just like the last dozen times they promised to consider it.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
That's a false narrative. The GOP is more than willing to debate and vote for sensible gun control legislation (I already posted the bipartisan vote on the Grassley-Cruz bill). There is some common ground on background checks/databases, mental health awareness, etc. But the Democrats can't take small victories, they would rather have an all or nothing approach and just blame Republicans.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Exactly. That's not even debatable. They want the whole enchilada right up front and then when they don't get it it's "the other side" that's being unreasonable.
However, this type of tactic is exactly why we 2A types talk about the slippery slope. The left tells us every day they want to ban guns.
You and I aren't going to agree on this. The GOP has shown time after time that they'll pay lip service to "sensible legislation" but when it comes time to vote, they always vote no, on everything. You need look no further than HR-8.
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Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Because HR-8 is a flawed bill.
https://www.heritage.org/firearms/commentary/8-serious-flaws-the-new-background-check-bill
Hey Term - I owe you a big apology. That was totally uncalled for and I deleted the post. If you could delete your response that quoted it, I'd appreciate it. You're a good dude and didn't deserve any of that. Hopefully no hard feelings and we can do a reset.
dkp993
Footballguy
Have no idea about the exchange but Ek you’re good peeps. We need more of this around here.
dkp993
Footballguy
There' a reason that I post in here, and it has little to do with politics. Appreciate guys like you, @Terminalxylem, and @KarmaPolicewho have been patient with me.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Thanks for the kind words ek. I really respect your humility and willingness to apologize. We all can learn something from your example.There' a reason that I post in here, and it has little to do with politics. Appreciate guys like you, @Terminalxylem, and @KarmaPolicewho have been patient with me.
The Commish
Footballguy
We all do GB....don't be so hard on yourself.ekbeats said:
