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Does Anthony Gonzalez have any value this year? (1 Viewer)

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Any Colts homers out there feel that Antony Gonzalez might have some value this season? Seems to me that he has more talent than Austin Collie.

How will the Colts use him this season?

 
barring an injury he will only be on the field in 4 WR sets......he wont move up the depth chart past Collie.....look at what Collie did his rookie season. better than any of the 2 seasons Gonzalez had before his injury last year.

 
Gonzalez really hurt his chances with injuries this summer that kept him out of OTA's.s and allowedre the team to continue to move forward with Wayne-Garcon-Collie formations. However, as the OP suggested, Gonzalez can do a lot of things that Collie can't do, and Gonzalez is a favorite of Manning's, so he will almost certainly have some redraft value if he's healthy. I would certainly take Gonzalez over Collie in all formats, but Garcon seems to be the guy who will run as the #2 WR in most sets

 
ace_spaid said:
barring an injury he will only be on the field in 4 WR sets......he wont move up the depth chart past Collie.....look at what Collie did his rookie season. better than any of the 2 seasons Gonzalez had before his injury last year.
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Very persuasive
 
in Gonzos 2 seasons before injury he totaled 7 tds.......the total of Collies rookie year. not to mention he was a number 2 then and Collie was a 3...trust me here. Collie is a P Money fav and that wont change. Hes the new Brandon Stokley. and when Garcon explodes this year and they cant cover him or Wayne and Clark is tearing up LBs....Collie will run wild. I will also say if they leave Addai on the sideline and run 4 Wrs, Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Gonzalez along with Clark on the field....you'll wish you had Manning.

 
ace_spaid said:
in Gonzos 2 seasons before injury he totaled 7 tds.......the total of Collies rookie year. not to mention he was a number 2 then and Collie was a 3...trust me here. Collie is a P Money fav and that wont change. Hes the new Brandon Stokley. and when Garcon explodes this year and they cant cover him or Wayne and Clark is tearing up LBs....Collie will run wild. I will also say if they leave Addai on the sideline and run 4 Wrs, Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Gonzalez along with Clark on the field....you'll wish you had Manning.
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Gonzalez was the #3 his first two seasons, not #2 as you suggest. Last year was his first in the starting lineup, and he got hurt in week 1. If that hadn't happened, we wouldn't be talking about Garcon or Collie right now.
 
zed2283 said:
ace_spaid said:
in Gonzos 2 seasons before injury he totaled 7 tds.......the total of Collies rookie year. not to mention he was a number 2 then and Collie was a 3...trust me here. Collie is a P Money fav and that wont change. Hes the new Brandon Stokley. and when Garcon explodes this year and they cant cover him or Wayne and Clark is tearing up LBs....Collie will run wild. I will also say if they leave Addai on the sideline and run 4 Wrs, Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Gonzalez along with Clark on the field....you'll wish you had Manning.
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Gonzalez was the #3 his first two seasons, not #2 as you suggest. Last year was his first in the starting lineup, and he got hurt in week 1. If that hadn't happened, we wouldn't be talking about Garcon or Collie right now.
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I don't know what happens to him this season, but I do think he has more talent than Collie and Garcon.
 
Louisville Slugger said:
zed2283 said:
ace_spaid said:
in Gonzos 2 seasons before injury he totaled 7 tds.......the total of Collies rookie year. not to mention he was a number 2 then and Collie was a 3...trust me here. Collie is a P Money fav and that wont change. Hes the new Brandon Stokley. and when Garcon explodes this year and they cant cover him or Wayne and Clark is tearing up LBs....Collie will run wild. I will also say if they leave Addai on the sideline and run 4 Wrs, Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Gonzalez along with Clark on the field....you'll wish you had Manning.
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Gonzalez was the #3 his first two seasons, not #2 as you suggest. Last year was his first in the starting lineup, and he got hurt in week 1. If that hadn't happened, we wouldn't be talking about Garcon or Collie right now.
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I don't know what happens to him this season, but I do think he has more talent than Collie and Garcon.
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He was overhyped out of college and the Colts drafted him way too high. Gonzo is just a role player.
 
Louisville Slugger said:
zed2283 said:
ace_spaid said:
in Gonzos 2 seasons before injury he totaled 7 tds.......the total of Collies rookie year. not to mention he was a number 2 then and Collie was a 3...trust me here. Collie is a P Money fav and that wont change. Hes the new Brandon Stokley. and when Garcon explodes this year and they cant cover him or Wayne and Clark is tearing up LBs....Collie will run wild. I will also say if they leave Addai on the sideline and run 4 Wrs, Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Gonzalez along with Clark on the field....you'll wish you had Manning.
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Gonzalez was the #3 his first two seasons, not #2 as you suggest. Last year was his first in the starting lineup, and he got hurt in week 1. If that hadn't happened, we wouldn't be talking about Garcon or Collie right now.
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I don't know what happens to him this season, but I do think he has more talent than Collie and Garcon.
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Manning should have a great year - Collie is now the best #4 in the league, so with the 4WRs and Clark you have a deadly passing attack . . .The Colts have rarely used 4WR sets in the past (5% last year) but I see the OC and Manning using them quite a bit more this year . . .as for the question asked by the OP, I think that Gonzalez has value - not as much as Stokley had in the 49TD season, but if he gets 2/3 of that then it's good production . . .
 
duaneok66 said:
Louisville Slugger said:
zed2283 said:
ace_spaid said:
in Gonzos 2 seasons before injury he totaled 7 tds.......the total of Collies rookie year. not to mention he was a number 2 then and Collie was a 3...trust me here. Collie is a P Money fav and that wont change. Hes the new Brandon Stokley. and when Garcon explodes this year and they cant cover him or Wayne and Clark is tearing up LBs....Collie will run wild. I will also say if they leave Addai on the sideline and run 4 Wrs, Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Gonzalez along with Clark on the field....you'll wish you had Manning.
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Gonzalez was the #3 his first two seasons, not #2 as you suggest. Last year was his first in the starting lineup, and he got hurt in week 1. If that hadn't happened, we wouldn't be talking about Garcon or Collie right now.
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I don't know what happens to him this season, but I do think he has more talent than Collie and Garcon.
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Manning should have a great year - Collie is now the best #4 in the league, so with the 4WRs and Clark you have a deadly passing attack . . .The Colts have rarely used 4WR sets in the past (5% last year) but I see the OC and Manning using them quite a bit more this year . . .as for the question asked by the OP, I think that Gonzalez has value - not as much as Stokley had in the 49TD season, but if he gets 2/3 of that then it's good production . . .
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Collie is not # 4...
 
u guys are smoked.....trust me. been watching the Colts for years and i am a die hard fan. Gonzo does NOT have the skills close to Collie and not on the same planet as the Hatian Sensation! believe whoever you want but im telling you Gonzo is the number 4......worst part is they actually gave him a shot to win the 3 spot back from Collie and it wasnt even close. He never had a shot at beating out Garcon.

 
zed2283 said:
ace_spaid said:
in Gonzos 2 seasons before injury he totaled 7 tds.......the total of Collies rookie year. not to mention he was a number 2 then and Collie was a 3...trust me here. Collie is a P Money fav and that wont change. Hes the new Brandon Stokley. and when Garcon explodes this year and they cant cover him or Wayne and Clark is tearing up LBs....Collie will run wild. I will also say if they leave Addai on the sideline and run 4 Wrs, Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Gonzalez along with Clark on the field....you'll wish you had Manning.
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Gonzalez was the #3 his first two seasons, not #2 as you suggest. Last year was his first in the starting lineup, and he got hurt in week 1. If that hadn't happened, we wouldn't be talking about Garcon or Collie right now.
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But he did get hurt, and they both did more than Gonzalez has ever done. I am not saying either or both will outperform Gonzalez this year, but I doubt the Colts are gonna push Collie and Garcon to the back of the line again just because their WR with potential, who has never done anything of note, is back. Simply put, Manning throws the ball to whomever gets open and whomever makes plays, and both Collie and Garcon showed last year that they can do both.
 
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Warrior said:
duaneok66 said:
Louisville Slugger said:
zed2283 said:
ace_spaid said:
in Gonzos 2 seasons before injury he totaled 7 tds.......the total of Collies rookie year. not to mention he was a number 2 then and Collie was a 3...trust me here. Collie is a P Money fav and that wont change. Hes the new Brandon Stokley. and when Garcon explodes this year and they cant cover him or Wayne and Clark is tearing up LBs....Collie will run wild. I will also say if they leave Addai on the sideline and run 4 Wrs, Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Gonzalez along with Clark on the field....you'll wish you had Manning.
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Gonzalez was the #3 his first two seasons, not #2 as you suggest. Last year was his first in the starting lineup, and he got hurt in week 1. If that hadn't happened, we wouldn't be talking about Garcon or Collie right now.
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I don't know what happens to him this season, but I do think he has more talent than Collie and Garcon.
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Manning should have a great year - Collie is now the best #4 in the league, so with the 4WRs and Clark you have a deadly passing attack . . .The Colts have rarely used 4WR sets in the past (5% last year) but I see the OC and Manning using them quite a bit more this year . . .as for the question asked by the OP, I think that Gonzalez has value - not as much as Stokley had in the 49TD season, but if he gets 2/3 of that then it's good production . . .
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Collie is not # 4...
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I may have slept since then, but in the pivotal game 3 of the preseason I remember AG being on the field in 3WR sets while Collie was on the sidelines . . .
 
Not sure I'd call any preseason game 'pivotal.'

My guess is they were getting Gonzo some more work since he's been limited most of the offseason.

IMO he and Collie will split time in the slot.

 
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Not sure I'd call any preseason game 'pivotal.' My guess is they were getting Gonzo some more work since he's been limited most of the offseason.IMO he and Collie will split time in the slot.
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it is "pivotal" only in the sense that its a dress rehearsal for the opening game . . . some people said that AG would take Garcon's spot outside, but Garcon was on the right side all preseason (when healthy) . . . if COllie splits with AG then the value of both in FF is insignificant . .
 
so Collie is the 3 & Gonzalez is the 4 ? .... thats the shakedown ?

(in a very deep leauge i have 2 stud WR's i drafted in the first 2 rounds, but my #3,4,& 5 WR's are Mason, Collie, & Manningham .... im hoping to start Collie 5-6 times minimum this season, non ppr, start 3 WR)

 
Looks like Gonzalez lost the WR3:

Anthony Gonzalez suggested Monday that he hasn't been given a fair shot to earn his starting job back.Gonzalez was passed over last season by Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie while he dealt with a knee injury. He admits that he has "no idea" what his role in the offense will be. It's looking like a No. 4 receiver and backup punt returner, so he'll need an injury to get onto the field consistently.
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Unwrittenlaw said:
Looks like Gonzalez lost the WR3:

Anthony Gonzalez suggested Monday that he hasn't been given a fair shot to earn his starting job back.Gonzalez was passed over last season by Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie while he dealt with a knee injury. He admits that he has "no idea" what his role in the offense will be. It's looking like a No. 4 receiver and backup punt returner, so he'll need an injury to get onto the field consistently.
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:fishing: thanks for the news/update ..... even since TJ signed in B'more i've been sweatin' my #3 WR spot heading into the season.
 
What is the story with Garcon being held out yesterday and today? Is this the same "undisclosed injury" that held him out of the early pre-season? It's odd that the Colts have been able to keep the lid on this for so long.

 
i am also considering it for some waiver foder... I just don't see room for him, and he just an injury nightmare

 
zed2283 said:
stp-d said:
Is Gonzalez now a drop in 12 Man dynasty leagues?
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I've been strongly considering it, but I'm going to hold.
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good idea - the jury is still out on Garcon, and despite reports to the contrary we still don't know if Collie can play outside fulltime . . .
 
FunkyPlutos said:
I just traded Jimmy Clausen for him in a dynasty league...why didn't we bump this yesterday?!?!?!? :rolleyes:
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search pluto, search.and i just picked him up in a 12 team ppr league after he was dropped (only sent the under performing MN d/st back to the wire, so why not?). mainly for next year b/c he can play, and it doesn't look very good this year in re-drafts.he was a 1st or 2nd round pick for the colts, and wayne will be 32 in a month.
 
ace_spaid said:
barring an injury he will only be on the field in 4 WR sets......he wont move up the depth chart past Collie.....look at what Collie did his rookie season. better than any of the 2 seasons Gonzalez had before his injury last year.
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absolutely, why would he have value is a better question.
 
I wish him well in all his post-football pursuits. I think he has one recorded catch since Bush stopped being the President.

He was bad when they drafted him. He was bad when he played. He got hurt. He got better. He's still bad. If he retires and comes back, he'll still be bad.

 
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No value. He's a hold. Try and get him as a throw-in. Any Indy receiver can have value in future, but they're not worth a roster spot unless its a deep league

 
Unwrittenlaw said:
Looks like Gonzalez lost the WR3:

Anthony Gonzalez suggested Monday that he hasn't been given a fair shot to earn his starting job back.Gonzalez was passed over last season by Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie while he dealt with a knee injury. He admits that he has "no idea" what his role in the offense will be. It's looking like a No. 4 receiver and backup punt returner, so he'll need an injury to get onto the field consistently.
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I'm surprised in this entire thread no one has brought up that Garcon has looked terrible this season. I know A Gonz typically has filled the slot where Collie plays... but note the quote... (and there was a huge discussion on this last year)... A Gonz can play either slot or outside WR--some people speculated that he was going to play the outside last year as the #2 and IND was filling Collie in the slot. Gonzo kept getting hurt so we never found out... W/Garcon having alligator arms this season w/4 receptions on 12 targets (33% is pathetic IMO) and spotty performance last season too (92 targets and 47 receptions--51%)--lots of drops compared to the other IND WR's and DClark (Collie caught 66%, Wayne 67%, Clark 75%)... This year Collie's been catching everything in sight... so has Clark and Wayne (last I saw they were all around 75%). I think there is a window for A Gonz to fight back into the starting lineup as Manning losing confidence in him--which I think might already be happening... As evidence--look at the targets for Collie and Garcon the weeks they bloth played... Collie got huge targets.. Garcon not so many. That's a function of who's open--but also who Manning trusts. Wayne has 45 targets... Collie 39... I know Garcon missed 2 games with injury... but 3 games and 12 targets = 4 per game. Wayne gets 9 per game... DClark and Collie 8...I know--only so many balls to go around... but if Garcon isn't catching it... Gonz will.
 
Collie, Wayne, and Clark are getting most of the targets and Gonzalez has trouble staying healthy. I don't think he's anything special.

 
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