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Does Boilerplate Harassment Language Mean Different Things To You When Your Instructor Identifies With Queer Publishing Principles? (1 Viewer)

rockaction

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I was supposed to take an editing class at the UCLA school of...schools starting this past April 15th. Upon finding out the professor was head of a queer publishing wing (sounds like a political sect) of an independent publishing company (also sounds suspiciously like a political sect) I decided to check out the course requirements.

Totally different than what I signed up for so I dropped it. No big deal, right? No, no big deal. But I was struck by the boilerplate harassment language they'd put front and center of the online course. It was unavoidable. Normally it's something you click on to get away from like "Yeah, yeah, I read it. I'm not going to slobberknock over someone's online qualities or detract from them in any juvenile way. That's not why we here, right?"

But it got me thinking. What the heck exactly does the broad language (heh, get it?) of the tolerance policy mean in real terms, considering you're dealing with an expert in publishing? What exactly could be read into something as hostile? I would imagine it'd be pretty easy to read something into anything as hostile. What if we were supposed to be developing kids' stories with actively gay characters and didn't believe in that? What then? Would refusal be academically or socially hostile?

What about pronouns? What minefield might I have avoided on those? Ze/zir/cis/not/it.

What say you? 

 
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matuski said:
:lmao:

@rockaction, you come up the the most out of left field topics and posts this board has seen.

Nothing really to contribute, just saying.
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Thanks, matuski, I take it as a compliment. Keeps me young and feeling fresh. But seriously, what's an old conservative codger like me going to do around the navigational waters of a queer, and therefore probably pretty sociopolitical, press?

I can not say anything and not rock the boat because I generally agree with it (the likely case)
I can get swept up into my own intellectual suffuses and need to set truth to paper like wikkid would
I could hem and haw and try and navigate a shallow middle
I could wait until something comes up, which it likely won't, but on the off chance it did, would have been too late to drop.

I let my questions about the merits of the class make the decision for me instead of rank sociological schematics. I dropped, but only because I thought we'd be editing pieces for form, grammar, syntax, etc. Not for helping out writer's project students get their short stories up to snuff. 

 
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Was she doomed by having a name a first name that ended in -i, or did she choose it? It ryhmes with Obi. Help me Zirobi Wan Kinboi, you're my only help. 

 
Quint said:
APA, MLA, or Chicago format? 

This will affect my poll vote. 
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Chicago, man. It was Chicago's Manual Of Style.

There are no fictional MLA language riots of Amherst to be had here. Just solid, stolid old Chicago.

I wasted nary a cent on books, though, so I have no access to the materials.

 
[scooter] said:
It has more to do with academia than sexual orientation, IMO.
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The intersectionality of the two as a force for the voices of the long unheard cannot be underestimated, though.

There! I just earned an A! No need to even take the course!

 
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rockaction said:
I was supposed to take an editing class at the UCLA school of...schools starting this past April 15th. Upon finding out the professor was head of a queer publishing wing (sounds like a political sect) of an independent publishing company (also sounds suspiciously like a political sect) I decided to check out the course requirements.
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Queer publishing wing... :coffee:

 
[scooter] said:
It has more to do with academia than sexual orientation, IMO.
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I'm still tripping a bit about this and I know plenty of gay people both educated and uneducated (this comes from all the time I spent as both a university guy in my early twenties and as a strip club lech in my early thirties. It also goes to the fact that a really good friend of mine was a balloon animalist at one of the top questioning bars in NY and I hung out there often when I lived in CT.). So I know the scene. I'm just not sure which influences what more. 

 
jamny said:
Boilerplate Harassment Language
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Damn. Knew it was boilerplate to blame. I thought maybe we could shuffle that off on Otis as user, but alas...

One will note that I generally come nowhere near anything but boilerplate harassment language, hence my adjectival usage.   

 
wikkidpissah said:
why do RA & his winsome winglet remind me of these two? "cis coult be a prrrroblem, rrocky"
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I indeed had said she had a haircut resoundingly perfect for that uniform and even thusly described it that way until judgment caught the better of me and instead of simply assessing her as Radiohead would I just figured I'd let that sobriquet, and thus any nastiness of judgment, be.

I, on the other hand and am pre-65 John and won't stand for '66. Any bit of it. 

 
can i blow your cover?

:popcorn:

he ain't so erudite "in person"

sounded every bit a guttersnipe as yours truly 

:D
 
Not sure I 100% understand the question. Was it something in the course req that made you drop? Or the fear of the professor would be trying to push a queer agenda on the class? 

If this was simply an "editing" course—while still somewhat subjective—there is basic rules of grammar and style that should be pretty straight forward. Unlike a creative writing class where all the assignments could all be around queer topics and make some feel uncomfortable. 

If it was a fear of the professor pushing their (assumed) agenda, the coursework should be general enough for the students to create within their own sphere. 

I hear you on the pronoun thing, but if the professor wants to be called a certain pronoun, then so be it. No different then if different prof's prefer to be called by their title and last name, or just their first name. Its not like you need to adopt it as part of your regular vocabulary after the semester. Besides, as an editor, it may benefit you in the long run to learn the basics of the pronouns.

 
glvsav37 said:
Not sure I 100% understand the question. Was it something in the course req that made you drop? Or the fear of the professor would be trying to push a queer agenda on the class? 

If this was simply an "editing" course—while still somewhat subjective—there is basic rules of grammar and style that should be pretty straight forward. Unlike a creative writing class where all the assignments could all be around queer topics and make some feel uncomfortable. 

If it was a fear of the professor pushing their (assumed) agenda, the coursework should be general enough for the students to create within their own sphere. 

I hear you on the pronoun thing, but if the professor wants to be called a certain pronoun, then so be it. No different then if different prof's prefer to be called by their title and last name, or just their first name. Its not like you need to adopt it as part of your regular vocabulary after the semester. Besides, as an editor, it may benefit you in the long run to learn the basics of the pronouns.
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It wasn't any of that. The course was nowhere near what I wanted so I dropped. I merely noticed it on the way out the door.

 
There was a funny joke in last night's episode of "Rick & Morty" that made me think of this thread:

Rick: Morty, do you know what the Bechdel Test is?
Morty: The what?
Rick: For God's sake, Morty! The formula for measuring female agency in a story, proposed by lesbian cartoonist Alison.....what the hell are they teaching you in that school?!
Morty: Other stuff!
Rick: Then you've killed us both!
Morty: Why is "Lesbian" part of her job title?!
Rick: Oh, now you're progressive?!

 
For anyone who remembers this thread, an update. In a stunning move of motivation, I've signed up for a copyediting course at UCLA Extension again. This will not be queer character development; it will be exactly what I hoped for. Grammar, syntax, proper editing notation, all that stuff. 

Just had to wait a year. I'm actually sort of pumped. 

 
A. Does this mean you won’t have time to do the punk countdown again?

B. I can usually tell it’s your thread by the length of the title. 

 
Pip's Invitation said:
A. Does this mean you won’t have time to do the punk countdown again?

B. I can usually tell it’s your thread by the length of the title. 
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Oooh. That's a good question. This really shouldn't get in the way of the punk countdown this summer, no...the class ends June 5th. It pushes it back from late May, though, which is when I wanted to start it. 

Yeah, my titles tend to take a page from those old Nineteenth Century history books with the really long headings. I always found those very descriptive. 

 
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