bulger2holt
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They will run the ball more ?
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Does Brady's injury help Maroney ? (1 Viewer)
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
Sammie Morris maybe - did you see the run distribution today???
bulger2holt
Footballguy
I didn't. But Maroney is better.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
Welker is my #2 WR and Maroney is my #2 RB. I can only hope they run more and throw underneaths to Welker. I think this kills Moss.
The injury to Brady doesn't help anyone on the entire New England team. This allows defenses to do different things that they normally wouldn't do against a Tom Brady.
Will they run more? Maybe, but there won't be as much room to run either as defenses won't respect the pass nearly as much.
Moss will have problems as well. Yes, he had 116 and a TD today, but the Chiefs pass defense is poor. When they face a decent defensive team, things won't go nearly as well.
Welker is definately not going to sniff 110 receptions this year, he'll be lucky to get 80.
Nasty injury because not only did it knock out the No. 1 QB in fantasy football, it's going to effect the No. 1 WR and another top 15 WR.
Will they run more? Maybe, but there won't be as much room to run either as defenses won't respect the pass nearly as much.
Moss will have problems as well. Yes, he had 116 and a TD today, but the Chiefs pass defense is poor. When they face a decent defensive team, things won't go nearly as well.
Welker is definately not going to sniff 110 receptions this year, he'll be lucky to get 80.
Nasty injury because not only did it knock out the No. 1 QB in fantasy football, it's going to effect the No. 1 WR and another top 15 WR.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
I am afraid you're right. But, hopefully can still catch alot of balls underneath. You never know.
poo flingin monkey
Footballguy
if given the opportunity Sammie Morris is better.
ninerfan
Footballguy
Yes. What the hell is up with that? At one point I thought I might have missed Maroney getting injured. Then I saw him in for a play or two. Then he disappeared again...
Art_VanDalay
Footballguy
I watched the game and fyi - Maroney ripped off a big run that was very nice up and was his second straight carry. He looked winded and pulled himself just when NE entered the red zone which Morris was then able to stay in and finish the drive. I too think Maroney's stock goes up but I am cautious as to how much since they seem to really not want to feed him the ball. Time will tell but if nothing else, he should have more carries today going forward than he was projected to receive before Sunday which has to be a positive right?Yes. What the hell is up with that? At one point I thought I might have missed Maroney getting injured. Then I saw him in for a play or two. Then he disappeared again...
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Still RBBC in NE, but I suspect all parties in that committee will see more work with Brady out.
I was a bit surprised to see Morris see so many receptions yesterday, as I was led to belive Jordan was going to be the receiving threat out of the backfield.
Remember, though, that each week is different especially for NE RBs, so be prepared for roles and production numbers to be changed up from week to week.
I was a bit surprised to see Morris see so many receptions yesterday, as I was led to belive Jordan was going to be the receiving threat out of the backfield.
Remember, though, that each week is different especially for NE RBs, so be prepared for roles and production numbers to be changed up from week to week.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
I think all informed fans of this situation know that Morris is more important than Maroney to the team.Yes. What the hell is up with that? At one point I thought I might have missed Maroney getting injured. Then I saw him in for a play or two. Then he disappeared again...
skillz
Footballguy
Especially with Faulk returning in week 2.
The strength of the pat's o line is in pass blocking not run blocking. while there may be a slite increase in run plays not enough to warrant consistent fantasy production from the runningback position. and with BB using certain rb's for situational play this is a backfield that should still be avoided.
switz
Footballguy
So far I haven't seen it...
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
His only defense is that he was drafted in the 1st round. 
I was at the game, Maroney looked great with every opportunity he received... Looked like he ran harder than Morris, although Morris did respectable work.
It will all come down to opportunity, and i think like most people, all the questions we had regarding roles and touches are even more obscure now than they were 48 hours ago.
It will all come down to opportunity, and i think like most people, all the questions we had regarding roles and touches are even more obscure now than they were 48 hours ago.
TheArchitect
Footballguy
Does anyone think Faulk will be the main benefactor of the "new" Patriots offense, especially in PPR formats
twitch
Footballguy
But youve got to give the edge to Morris, though. He's a heckuva great blocker.
Who knew the fate of New England's season would be so heavily influenced by some pot in Kevin Faulk's jacket? That he never even got to smoke. Too funny. Ya laugh to keep from cryin'. NE's RB situation this year is bound to be crazy. Im not even sure they used Jordan yesterday, and obviously Faulk wasnt in on the action because of the suspension. Probably the zaniest committee in the league this year.
twitch
Footballguy
I dont think necessarily any more than it would have otherwise. He's just a role player. And with Jordan in the mix, and Morris back healthy, his #s will be down from last year. And NE will obvioulsy score a ton less points this season, but he's not a big TD guy, so that wont really matter. Faulk's just a bye week/injury replacement.Does anyone think Faulk will be the main benefactor of the "new" Patriots offense, especially in PPR formats
Fantaholic
Footballguy
No one knows the answer to this, and we won't for several weeks. But, I think the safe assumption to make is that the running game will be counted on more although I don't think it will be as lopsided as some may think. I don't see Belichick or McDaniels making any major adjustments to their scheme because of the injury. Cassell has been here long enough studying under Brady to step in and do most of things that will be asked of him. Their skill sets are similar. Both pocket passers with similar physical attributes. I see a slight drop off in pass attempts versus what they were going to do this season, but they will still throw the ball. The RB's will benefit, but you can flip a four-sided coin to make a decision on who will be the major beneficiary.
BusterTBronco
Footballguy
How did Maroney fare when Brady was out of the game yesterday?Not too good! The situation in New England is turning into full blown RBBC.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
The shark move appears to be:
- trade for Maroney in the middle of the season when his value plummets
- trade away Maroney in the offseason when his value skyrockets, as people get giddy with excitement
- lather, rinse, repeat
As a Maroney owner, I hate BB. Besides Moss, Maroney is the most explosive weapon on the offense, but we'll continue to see large doses of journeyman Sammy Morris. If Maroney isn't picking up the offense, do a better job teaching him. If he's uncoachable, trade him. And if he's the best RB on the team, play him more.
- trade for Maroney in the middle of the season when his value plummets
- trade away Maroney in the offseason when his value skyrockets, as people get giddy with excitement
- lather, rinse, repeat
As a Maroney owner, I hate BB. Besides Moss, Maroney is the most explosive weapon on the offense, but we'll continue to see large doses of journeyman Sammy Morris. If Maroney isn't picking up the offense, do a better job teaching him. If he's uncoachable, trade him. And if he's the best RB on the team, play him more.
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General Tso
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Wow. I can't believe what I am reading in here. When did all the Shrks leave this place anyway??? Here are some running back game numbers to consider (att/yds/td's)26/104/114/156/119/46/222/122/125/122/114/36/1You like those numbers? Wondering where they came from? I'll give you a hint, they weren't Sammy Morris numbers. They were Maroney's numbers last season from week 15 through the playoffs, which coincidentally was the same period when Belichek made an adjustment more toward the running game in recognition that teams were overplaying the passing game.Belichek, like all great coaches, adjusts his play calling based on the circumstances of his own team and what his opponents are doing. If you think he is going to keep the same vertical playbook without Tom Brady, well, let's just say I have a nice bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. The Pats will run more, because they HAVE TO. Their Defense is long in the tooth, can be exposed, and will need to be kept off the field as much as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pats were already making the adjustment more towards a running game even prior to Brady's injury.And can we please stop all this Sammy Morris nonsense? He is not going to become THE MAN. Not now, not ever. You think his first 9 years as a journeyman with 3 different teams was an accident? The guy has averaged 238 rushing yards a year during his career!! And no - that is not a misprint.Fire away guppies.
Wasn't Sammy Morris out when Maroney posted those #'s? At least half probably would have gone to Morris if he was available.
PatsFan72
Footballguy
They split drives. Maroney in for one, then Morris, then occasionally Jordan. They pulled Maroney after a long run, and Morris went in and got the TD. That's probably how they will keep doing things, switching in the fresh legs for each drive. Gives them the ability to get in a rhythm and keep fresh legs on the field. Add in another one when Faulk gets back. If one player starts to vastly outperform the others, you may see him more, but so far it's about even with Maroney and Morris. If you listen to interviews with them, they both genuinely seem comfortable with doing things this way.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Try looking back at Maroney's stats in the games where Morris also played. Not too stellar.
switz
Footballguy
LOL... you post stats for Maroney when Morris was injured and then call anyone who has half a brain enough to recognize that a guppy? Puh-leaze.
T Bell
Footballguy
I dont think necessarily any more than it would have otherwise. He's just a role player. And with Jordan in the mix, and Morris back healthy, his #s will be down from last year. And NE will obvioulsy score a ton less points this season, but he's not a big TD guy, so that wont really matter. Faulk's just a bye week/injury replacement.Does anyone think Faulk will be the main benefactor of the "new" Patriots offense, especially in PPR formats
I think this is pretty much the way it's going to be. I wouldn't be shocked (though I concede it's unlikely) to see all four RB's on that roster with 125+ touches at season's end. 
Sammy Morris has outscored Maroney fantasy wise in every game that both have played in together. That good enough for you?
T Bell
Footballguy
Yesterday was the first game in which the two of them have played and Maroney wasn't suffering from a shoulder injury. Under the circumstances, I'm still not sure what to make of the run distribution other than to remain convinced that Belichick likes to spread the load around between at least two RB's as that keeps them fresh. If it makes you happy to think Sammy is better than Maroney, fine, but whether he is or not they're both going to get lots of action, all to the lament of their FF owners.
