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Culpepper is completely overrated. He excelled with Moss because Moss would win the jump ball situation. He was average [an overstatement] without him. I would be shocked to see if he had 25+ passing touchdowns this season.
This would certianly explain why Culpepper had his best year when Moss had his worse year and missed a good portion of games in 2004.
Blue Onion - How do you explain last year? He was horrible and it was not all the OL fault - he threw interceptions that a high school QB knew better not to throw.
 
Several weeks ago when the Culpepper to Dolphins rumors started circulating I was stoked. But in the back of my mind I thought that there was no way this would happen. This was before CPepp started spouting off about wanting to be traded. Good things like this don't happen to the Dolphins.

Then the Brees began blowing across South Florida, and I admit I got caught up in the hype. Perhaps it was because I'm from Indiana and I seem to remember the last time Miami had a QB from Purdue, we won the Super Bowl (of course that was a couple decades ago).

But I am now firmly in the "Where can I get my teal #11 jersey?" camp.

1. Daunte wants to play for the Dolphins to silence his critics. And it doesn't appear that he is going to demand a huge contract.

2. Saban knows what's he's doing and didn't overpay for Brees (or Culpepper for that matter). "In Saban I trust", as one of my brethren has spoken often on these boards.

3. CPepp's knee appears to be healing fine.

4. Saban worked with a similar "big" QB at LSU in Rohan Davey.

5. Linehan probably left his imprint on the Dolphins offense last year, the same offense that Daunte ran in Minnesota.

6. Kids got a gun for an arm. Chambers, McMichael, Booker? should be ecstatic. Ronnie Brown as well.

I see big things on the horizon for my beloved Phins.

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Culpepper is completely overrated. He excelled with Moss because Moss would win the jump ball situation. He was average [an overstatement] without him. I would be shocked to see if he had 25+ passing touchdowns this season.
This would certianly explain why Culpepper had his best year when Moss had his worse year and missed a good portion of games in 2004.
Blue Onion - How do you explain last year? He was horrible and it was not all the OL fault - he threw interceptions that a high school QB knew better not to throw.
I put it on a lot of variables, but it is my own opinion and certainly not fact:- Offensive Playbook - The playbook used was a fairly unaltered playbook from the Denny Green era that ended in 2001 and was designed around Randy Moss, who no longer existed. Tweaking the playbook would have been a big help.

- Offensive coaches - Who were the offensive masterminds in Minnesota last year? Mike Tice, who was a career backup tightend and his only coaching experienc (college and pro) was being an offensive line coach. Steve Loney, the offensive coordinator who broke into coaching as Mike Tice's assistant offensive line coach and was promoted to offensive coordinator because McCombs told Tice to promote a coach from inside the organization? I hate to say this but the most qualified offensive mind on the Vikings' staff last year might have been Ted Cottrell.

- Offensive line was pretty dismal; The starting RG, C and LG may be lucky to be in the league this year.

- Most of Daunte's interceptions came after the Vikings were down by two scores to playoff teams.

But to answer your question, :shrug: I don't think you can pin his performance on one thing, much like you cannot pin his success in previous seasons just on Randy Moss. But there have only been two quarterbacks in the history of the NFL to reach 20,000 passing yards faster than Culpepper and those names are Marino and (P) Manning.

 
Culpepper is completely overrated. He excelled with Moss because Moss would win the jump ball situation. He was average [an overstatement] without him. I would be shocked to see if he had 25+ passing touchdowns this season.
This would certianly explain why Culpepper had his best year when Moss had his worse year and missed a good portion of games in 2004.
Blue Onion - How do you explain last year? He was horrible and it was not all the OL fault - he threw interceptions that a high school QB knew better not to throw.
Not the OL fault ?!?!? HELLO ????He was sackied 31 times in 7 games !!!

 
Culpepper is completely overrated. He excelled with Moss because Moss would win the jump ball situation. He was average [an overstatement] without him. I would be shocked to see if he had 25+ passing touchdowns this season.
This would certianly explain why Culpepper had his best year when Moss had his worse year and missed a good portion of games in 2004.
Blue Onion - How do you explain last year? He was horrible and it was not all the OL fault - he threw interceptions that a high school QB knew better not to throw.
Not the OL fault ?!?!? HELLO ????He was sackied 31 times in 7 games !!!
HELLO????????? he held the ball for like a day and a half.please note I said "not all the OL fault". The OL was not very good but all those sacks and none of the INT's was caused by them.

 
Culpepper is completely overrated. He excelled with Moss because Moss would win the jump ball situation. He was average [an overstatement] without him. I would be shocked to see if he had 25+ passing touchdowns this season.
This would certianly explain why Culpepper had his best year when Moss had his worse year and missed a good portion of games in 2004.
Blue Onion - How do you explain last year? He was horrible and it was not all the OL fault - he threw interceptions that a high school QB knew better not to throw.
Not the OL fault ?!?!? HELLO ????He was sackied 31 times in 7 games !!!
HELLO????????? he held the ball for like a day and a half.please note I said "not all the OL fault". The OL was not very good but all those sacks and none of the INT's was caused by them.
New Offensive coordinatorNew Offense

No Running game

Injuries to the Oline.

 
Let's put it this way...not too long ago the Dolphins traded a 2nd round pick for AJ Feeley! AJ freakin' Feeley!!! I would take an injured CPep anyday over Feeley. As long as Cpep passes the physical, this is a steal. I know he has had his share of fumbles and INTs in Minn, but he is a huge upgrade over Frerotte, Fiedler and anyone else we have started since Marino left.

Although I think I would have rather had them go after Cutler in the draft...

 
My first love is the Crimson Tide and the Dolphins come in a very close second. I heard that before this trade Saban was looking at Brodie Croyle in the 3rd or 4th round. I wonder what this does to that idea. It still may be smart to draft Croyle and let him develop behind Cpep. Though I doubt they will spend another pick on a second qb.

I'm happy with the trade. I'm not sold on Brees, especially with the shoulder problem. I was just looking forward to Croyle leading my beloved Dolphins to the superbowl.
Still could happen as it is all about value. By the 4th round if Croyle is still there the value may be enough to take him. You can never have too much talent at teh QB position and you could trade away either part for something good. I have no idea how good Cleo Lemon could be but I bet there isn't too much upside in the Dolphins eyes. I would like to see the Dolphins offer a 5h round for Ramsey and let him take over until Culpy is hurt. if Frerotte wants to stay around for 1 mil a year I could deal with that as well.
 
Culpepper is completely overrated. He excelled with Moss because Moss would win the jump ball situation. He was average [an overstatement] without him. I would be shocked to see if he had 25+ passing touchdowns this season.
This would certianly explain why Culpepper had his best year when Moss had his worse year and missed a good portion of games in 2004.
Blue Onion - How do you explain last year? He was horrible and it was not all the OL fault - he threw interceptions that a high school QB knew better not to throw.
I put it on a lot of variables, but it is my own opinion and certainly not fact:- Offensive Playbook - The playbook used was a fairly unaltered playbook from the Denny Green era that ended in 2001 and was designed around Randy Moss, who no longer existed. Tweaking the playbook would have been a big help.

- Offensive coaches - Who were the offensive masterminds in Minnesota last year? Mike Tice, who was a career backup tightend and his only coaching experienc (college and pro) was being an offensive line coach. Steve Loney, the offensive coordinator who broke into coaching as Mike Tice's assistant offensive line coach and was promoted to offensive coordinator because McCombs told Tice to promote a coach from inside the organization? I hate to say this but the most qualified offensive mind on the Vikings' staff last year might have been Ted Cottrell.

- Offensive line was pretty dismal; The starting RG, C and LG may be lucky to be in the league this year.

- Most of Daunte's interceptions came after the Vikings were down by two scores to playoff teams.

But to answer your question, :shrug: I don't think you can pin his performance on one thing, much like you cannot pin his success in previous seasons just on Randy Moss. But there have only been two quarterbacks in the history of the NFL to reach 20,000 passing yards faster than Culpepper and those names are Marino and (P) Manning.
I agree with Blue Onion. Culpepper is a solid QB. But he has one down year and people jump all over him. Typical short term fan memory as usual. People have done the same thing with McNabb. Neither one of these guys is perfect and they are not the best QB in the league. But they are above average NFL quality starters that can win games. That puts them in very small company. There are maybe a dozen other guys in that category. Miami could do a lot worse than Culpepper and I don't think they could do any better.
 

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