Dominating the 3 Keeper (1 Viewer)

[Pictus Cat]

Tried this before, but it was ill defined. Some good discussion was generated. This should focus my intent a little better.

What 3 keepers do you want to eventually aquire through drafting and trades to keep year to year (not just through the initial draft?)

12 Teams

PPR, All TDs 6

Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE

What is the best strategy? (Assume all RBs in top 8, WR is what you think will be the #1, and Gates may be available in the 4th)

Strategy 1 - Manning with two RBs. Your first WR is coming from the 4th round.

Strategy 2 - Top WR with two RBs. You are guessing who will be the #1 of the top 3-5 WR. QBBC or Bulger, Brees...probably in 4th available.

Stratagey 3 - 3RBs Stockpile value and stability at RB and possible trade opportunity/reliance to make a stab at championship.

Strategy 4 - Gates with two RBs. Your first WR is coming from the 4th round and QBBC or Bulger, Brees...probably in 4th available.

Strategy 5 - Manning, Gates, RB. Your WRs and RB2 drafted 4th round on.

Strategy 6 - Manning, Gates, WR. Stockpile RBs 4th round and get WR value along the way.

 

[FantasyTrader]

#1 Doesn't have a Strategy #2. I lost the ability to care after I saw that.

 

[Borat]

yesno

 

[Pictus Cat]

#1 Doesn't have a Strategy #2. I lost the ability to care after I saw that.

Maybe a mod can edit that. The first # 3 is #2. I can't edit a Poll.And ANDY HICKS SAVES!!! Poll corrected.

Rankings for best at time of Correction.

Strategy 1 - Manning with two RBs. Your first WR is coming from the 4th round. [ 2 ] [40.00%]

Stratagey 3 - 3RBs Stockpile value and stability at RB and possible trade opportunity/reliance to make a stab at championship. [ 3 ] [60.00%]

Stratagey 3 - 3RBs Stockpile value and stability at RB and possible trade opportunity/reliance to make a stab at championship. [ 0 ] [0.00%]

Strategy 4 - Gates with two RBs. Your first WR is coming from the 4th round and QBBC or Bulger, Brees...probably in 4th available. [ 0 ] [0.00%]

Strategy 5 - Manning, Gates, RB. Your WRs and RB2 drafted 4th round on. [ 0 ] [0.00%]

Strategy 6 - Manning, Gates, WR. Stockpile RBs 4th round and get WR value along the way. [ 0 ] [0.00%]

 

[BoltzNBrew]

I have Manning and Bush in a keep 3 but nothing really after that with the execption of Colston who is a borderline keeper. It being a PPR league I think any combination of RBs and WRs you can land is the best. If Manning can be had in the right place then you are surely looking at RB, QB, and best RB/WR available.

ETA: I drafted in the 11 hole in a startup Keep 3 league last year and took Bush in the 1st and Manning in the 2nd. By the time my next pick rolled around there were slim pickens at both RB and WR as far as keepers go.

 

[joey]

I'm in a keep 3 league, no PPR, no mandatory-TE.

The last 2 years I kept 1 RB and 2 WRs because they were simply my best players.

(LJ, Holt, 3rd player changed each year).

With a keep 3, I play to win THIS YEAR, every year. Granted, that's easy for me

to say when I drafted Larry Johnson 2 years ago (handcuffing him to Priest

the year of the "Big Debate on Handcuffing Priest and LJ") so I haven't been scrambling

for a young stud RB in a few years.

But basically, my strategy has always been "keep the best 3 players", and I'll dare to say

"almost regardless of age". It's worked out really well for me. I just focus on younger

potential keeper studs in the first few rounds (without going crazy and passing over an

"over the hill" WR like Harrison if available, for example ).

It's worked out really well for me in the past and I don't think with a keep 3 that one

needs to go overboard with a "dynasty" mentality.

 

[Pictus Cat]

I'm in a keep 3 league, no PPR, no mandatory-TE.The last 2 years I kept 1 RB and 2 WRs because they were simply my best players.(LJ, Holt, 3rd player changed each year).With a keep 3, I play to win THIS YEAR, every year. Granted, that's easy for meto say when I drafted Larry Johnson 2 years ago (handcuffing him to Priestthe year of the "Big Debate on Handcuffing Priest and LJ") so I haven't been scramblingfor a young stud RB in a few years.But basically, my strategy has always been "keep the best 3 players", and I'll dare to say"almost regardless of age". It's worked out really well for me. I just focus on youngerpotential keeper studs in the first few rounds (without going crazy and passing over an"over the hill" WR like Harrison if available, for example ).It's worked out really well for me in the past and I don't think with a keep 3 that oneneeds to go overboard with a "dynasty" mentality.

Who your keeping and drafting is interesting. Who would you ultimately want to aquire?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Can I vote none of the above?

Consider me a contrarian, but I think with PPR and starting 3 WRs, I'm keeping 2 Top 20 WRs and 1 RB.

The reason?

Well, everyone will want to stockpile RBs, just like they always do.

As you can see from our rankings and projections at FBG and also in the Survivor Mocks going on, after RB20 or so it's all pretty much the same - however, after the Top 25 WRs, it also goes downhill fast.

That said, I will go 1 RB and 2 WR because I think the other 11 teams won't keep but 2 RBs - and worst case they keep 3.

If they keep 2-3, odds are that there are 5-6 RBs I can take out of the gate in Round 4, then go right after WR again. Some of them are rooks (ADP, Lynch, BJax, Booker, Irons, Leonard, etc.) but there are also players like Fred Taylor, Warrick Dunn or Anthony Thomas that will get good amounts of touches this season and will be available. The 30th-40th RBs aren't terrible, and should contribute.

Just like in redraft this year, I like establishing WRs and want 3 of the Top 25 or so WRs if I can get them. RBBC for my RB2 is my approach, just like QB and/or TE.

If value presents itself, I'll take it - but for the most part I want the elite group that falls off fastest in my stable first - so I'll hold 2 WRs and 1 RB.

 

[joey]

I'm in a keep 3 league, no PPR, no mandatory-TE.The last 2 years I kept 1 RB and 2 WRs because they were simply my best players.(LJ, Holt, 3rd player changed each year).With a keep 3, I play to win THIS YEAR, every year. Granted, that's easy for meto say when I drafted Larry Johnson 2 years ago (handcuffing him to Priestthe year of the "Big Debate on Handcuffing Priest and LJ") so I haven't been scramblingfor a young stud RB in a few years.But basically, my strategy has always been "keep the best 3 players", and I'll dare to say"almost regardless of age". It's worked out really well for me. I just focus on youngerpotential keeper studs in the first few rounds (without going crazy and passing over an"over the hill" WR like Harrison if available, for example ).It's worked out really well for me in the past and I don't think with a keep 3 that oneneeds to go overboard with a "dynasty" mentality.

Who your keeping and drafting is interesting. Who would you ultimately want to aquire?

Well, since you asked... This year I'm keeping LJ, Holt and either Driver or Ahman Green.I pick 10th out of 12 (came in 3rd place last year) and my earlyestimates have only 3 of the 6 teams before me going RB, mostgoing WR. If Ahman doesn't distinguish himself this pre-season,I think I'll keep Driver (since I think most of the top 20 WRs willbe gone by my pick). Then I'll probably go RB/RB in the 4th/5th round,(rounds 1 thru 3 are our keeper rounds) and one of them will be ayoung RB with big upside (hopefully someone like M Lynch drops to me).Like I said in my earlier post, since it's only keep-3, it's not a lock thata guy like Lynch goes early in the first non-keeper round. There are stillsome really good and established players available early in the draft.All that said, if all things were equal, I'd prefer to keep 2 RBs and 1 WRbut I just haven't had that 2nd stud RB to make it worthwhile in the past2 years. (Ahman Green was a mega-value pick for me, and many othersI'm sure, last year.)

 

[Pictus Cat]

Thank you for all the votes and replies. I am suprised by some of the answers.

Considering, (Assume all RBs in top 8, WR is what you think will be the #1, and Gates may be available in the 4th)

and these are the types of teams you hope to build through trades and rookies paying off.

SJax, Bush, Manning

LT, Addai, Fitz

Westbrook, Parker, SA

LJ, Bush, Gates

Manning, Gates, SJax

Manning, Gates, CJ

Currently mine is SJax, Fitz, Bush

The question for me is, what should I do to get better?

The question to you is, what is the best strategy you would hope to attain?

And why?

 

[Pictus Cat]

Can I vote none of the above?Consider me a contrarian, but I think with PPR and starting 3 WRs, I'm keeping 2 Top 20 WRs and 1 RB.The reason?Well, everyone will want to stockpile RBs, just like they always do. As you can see from our rankings and projections at FBG and also in the Survivor Mocks going on, after RB20 or so it's all pretty much the same - however, after the Top 25 WRs, it also goes downhill fast.That said, I will go 1 RB and 2 WR because I think the other 11 teams won't keep but 2 RBs - and worst case they keep 3.If they keep 2-3, odds are that there are 5-6 RBs I can take out of the gate in Round 4, then go right after WR again. Some of them are rooks (ADP, Lynch, BJax, Booker, Irons, Leonard, etc.) but there are also players like Fred Taylor, Warrick Dunn or Anthony Thomas that will get good amounts of touches this season and will be available. The 30th-40th RBs aren't terrible, and should contribute.Just like in redraft this year, I like establishing WRs and want 3 of the Top 25 or so WRs if I can get them. RBBC for my RB2 is my approach, just like QB and/or TE. If value presents itself, I'll take it - but for the most part I want the elite group that falls off fastest in my stable first - so I'll hold 2 WRs and 1 RB.

If you had LT, SJax, Westbrook, Bush, Addai, Parker, SA, LJ, Manning, Gates, CJ, Fitz, Holt, SSmith, Which 3 would you keep?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Can I vote none of the above?Consider me a contrarian, but I think with PPR and starting 3 WRs, I'm keeping 2 Top 20 WRs and 1 RB.The reason?Well, everyone will want to stockpile RBs, just like they always do. As you can see from our rankings and projections at FBG and also in the Survivor Mocks going on, after RB20 or so it's all pretty much the same - however, after the Top 25 WRs, it also goes downhill fast.That said, I will go 1 RB and 2 WR because I think the other 11 teams won't keep but 2 RBs - and worst case they keep 3.If they keep 2-3, odds are that there are 5-6 RBs I can take out of the gate in Round 4, then go right after WR again. Some of them are rooks (ADP, Lynch, BJax, Booker, Irons, Leonard, etc.) but there are also players like Fred Taylor, Warrick Dunn or Anthony Thomas that will get good amounts of touches this season and will be available. The 30th-40th RBs aren't terrible, and should contribute.Just like in redraft this year, I like establishing WRs and want 3 of the Top 25 or so WRs if I can get them. RBBC for my RB2 is my approach, just like QB and/or TE. If value presents itself, I'll take it - but for the most part I want the elite group that falls off fastest in my stable first - so I'll hold 2 WRs and 1 RB.

If you had LT, SJax, Westbrook, Bush, Addai, Parker, SA, LJ, Manning, Gates, CJ, Fitz, Holt, SSmith, Which 3 would you keep?

That's 14 players, so I know I'm getting one of them back with my first pick.That said, I'd oVVn this league by trading everyone but LT2 and SJax for their first rounders, and keep SSmith.Since I doubt I'd have all these players, this is a moot question, but if I had SJax, LT2, SSmith, Manning and CJ I'd be hard pressed not to keep the RB1/RB2.I would not keep Manning.I've always gone with the rule that if I have >N Keepers, I can find a team that needs to improve and trade one of them for something.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Thanks, Jeff.

I believe Tomlinson, SJax, and Smith are realistic in a lot of keep 3 leagues over time because most leagues are comprised of friends, coworkers, and family. All my leagues currently break down with 3 - 6 good owners, 2 to 5 avg, and 2 -5 not so capable or not as into it.

Hence the poll for one's ultimate goal.