donald brown ppr dynasty (1 Viewer)

[bmsarvis]

wondering if any body been trading for him, if so, what does it take to get him. also want to know how others view his value going forward.

thanks

 

[netnalp]

As a Brown owner I predict a split with Addai getting about 2/3 of the touches and Brown 1/3. I've read arguments that the colts will want to see if Brown can carry the load this season and that will decide if the team signs Addai after the season. While I think they'll give Brown more carries than last season for him to get more experience and to see how he holds up, I don't think they will need to give him the bulk of the carries to accomplish that. And if Brown and Addai are moving the ball equally well, then why would they put the wear on Brown's tires if they can drive Addai into the ground his last season with the colts. Brown needs to leave no question he's the better back by the first month of the season to get the bulk of the carries.

 

[Balco]

The key for Brown is greatly improving his pass blocking. If he does that, he will see the field more.

I am still very high on Brown as a running back.

 

[bmsarvis]

great analysis, thanks would love to hear from more of you. if i remember right he was high on blooms rookie cheat sheet if i could get your opinion on him that'd be great

thanks again

 

[loose circuits]

just went 7.01 in a 12 team PPR start up

upside is probably worth the gamble at that point

 

[Chimp Magnet]

What kind of 2010 or 2011 rookie pick do you think he's worth? I had an offer of 2010 1.02 and 3.02 for Brown and 1.06. I'd get Brown in the deal. Turned it down due to my lust of Bryant. Was I wrong?

 

[Balco]

The problem other than being a sub par pass protector last year, is that the Colts seem intent on splitting the carries. Brown is a workhorse who got better with more carries at UCONN (as a season ticket holder, I saw everyone of his games). From reading articles on him this year, it seems like people think he is a big play guy for them. He can crack off a long run, but he is not a 12-15 carry back, he is a 25 carry back. Look at the guys lower body, very thickly built, when he gets square, defenders just fall off him when they try to tackle low.

I am really interested to see how he develops in year 2. If the Colts, like the Ravens with Willis McGahee and Ray Rice, realize that Addai should be on the other side of the platoon, I think Brown busts out.

 

[az_prof]

The key for Brown is greatly improving his pass blocking. If he does that, he will see the field more. I am still very high on Brown as a running back.

I definitely agree. This is the main reason he lost PT. And I think he will master it because he is a smart kid and a dedicated kid. He's not a punk and blocking above all is intelligence and effort.

 

[No Way Jose]

I traded Brown away for the 1.03 and 2.02 back in february. I ended up trading the 3rd pick away later. I honestly don't see much of an improvement from last year out of Brown. Addai gets a terrible rap and all he does is perform. Plus, Peyton is comfortable with Addai and as long as that is the case, the job is Addais. Brown is probably a stash right now.

 

[bigern1000]

In one PPR I'm in, start 1-2 QB and 2-3 RB, an offer out there for Brown/1.03 for Kolb/2.03 was turned down by the guy who would get Brown.

 

[RockHard]

Donald Brown 10' = Rashard Mendenhall 09'

Both backs had disappointing injury plagued rookie seasons that caused to many fantasy owners to downgrade their long term prospects. However they were both first round picks of two of the better drafting organizations in the NFL. The Steelers & Colts rarely miss on first round draft picks, nor do they draft players without having a clearly defined role for them. I have managed to acquire Brown at his depressed value and I would suggest that all of you do the same.

 

[karmarooster]

I am really interested to see how he develops in year 2. If the Colts, like the Ravens with Willis McGahee and Ray Rice, realize that Addai should be on the other side of the platoon, I think Brown busts out.

Do u think the Colts are going to are going to have some epiphany? that Brown is more talented than Addai (assuming he is)? I bought into a lot of the hype last year regarding Brown and acquired him in several (redraft) leagues, figuring he would get better as the season went on, Addai got injured, and eventually be a RB1/2 by the end of the year. of course we all know that didn't happen. i also got addai as my RB3... who ended up as RB7 in PPR. So what can we know for certain that Brown does better than Addai? 1. he's faster. but I don't think he's A LOT faster... it's not like Brown is a burner. of course there are dozens of RBs faster than Addai... Browns long run of the year was 45 yards (he was tackled and did not score). Addai's long run was 21 yards (TD).

2. better in short yardage. It was evident early in the season last year that the colts would like to use him in short yardage, red-zone, and goal line opportunities. But does that seem to you like the skill set of the 1/3 split or 2/3 split RB?

and what does Addai do better?

for as much "work horse" "gets stronger as the game goes on" "25+ carry back" etc etc hype that Brown gets... it was in fact Brown who missed significant time with a minor, nagging injury... not Addai. the fact is, Addai outperformed Brown in every statistical category last year. Addai got dumped on big time as one of the most replaceable talents for a RB, someone less talented than K. Smith, R. Grant. almost a punch-line. But Addai averaged 3.8 ypc while Brown managed only 3.6. This coming from the supposedly more talented back. Now you can argue that Brown's ypc would increase if he were fed the ball 25 times a game or more. but is that what the colts want to do? obviously not.

this is not the Jets with a stellar run-blocking line and a liability at QB. in fact they are the opposite - they are better at pass-blocking, and they have one of the greatest QBs of all time. they will throw the ball rather than feed it to a only-slightly-more-talented-than-average-RB (Brown). As long as Peyton Manning is in town, its clear what the colts will ask their tailback to do. it involves a few things that Addai is clearly better at thus far in Browns career. the tailback needs to understand manning's audibles, recognize the blitz, and successfully pick up the blitzer. as a team that never uses a FB and often uses only 1 TE, its extremely important that the tailback protect the franchise (manning).

they will also use the RB as a check down, something manning loves to do. Addai appears to be the better in this circumstance. and the colts will need the RB to pick up the yards available when manning checks out of a pass play against a soft nickle defense. they don't need a uber-talented tailback who will get MORE than what the line blocks. they just want the RB to pick up 4 yards on 2nd and 3, etc.

it seems obvious to me that the colts value reliability more than "talent" from the RB. it could be that Addai is actually LESS talented than average once the ball is in his hands... but he does everything the Colts want their RB to do very well. Put both of these guys on the Jets, and Brown is clearly the better back.

now if Brown DOES improve all those aspects of his game that Addai is better at, or if Addai reverts to his old, soft self and pulls himself out of the game for a minor knock, Brown could be a nice play. but he won't be anything more than a gamble to get 50 yards and a MAYBE a TD until then. the fact that Addai finished in the top 10 last year rushing for only 828 yards shows you how valuable the RB is in Indy, despite being the worst team in the NFL in rushing. i just wouldn't hold my breath for Brown to win the job from addai this year. and i wouldn't want to count on Brown as a weekly starter in any league.

 

[bmsarvis]

i watched a few of the games brown played in and he did not impress me at all, almost looked like it was too much for him grasp(nfl play speed/tempo). i feel as if he is a gamble to be a starter down the road prob 2011 is his best shot but i dont have the confidence in him that he will earn the trust of the colts to pu it all in his hands. do you guys think im way off some people talk like hes stud i havent seen it expect for in the scouting reports

 

[stp-d]

Trades I've seen in the last month or 2...

PPR league (.5 PPR for RB) Donald Brown for Barber/Choice

PPR league (.5 PPR for RB) Donald Brown/OchoCinco /Fred Davis for Colston/Josh Freeman

PPR League Donald Brown/1.06/1.10/Hartline for Holmes/Lynch/2.11

PPR League Donald Brown for 1.08/Bryant/Sproles

I would give up the 1.5 or later for him, however I would want 1.3 or better in return...

 

[Go Pack]

Traded Brown and a likely last 3rd next year for Greg Jennings in a 12 team PPR. I have not ginven up on Brown, but was not overly impressed with what I saw of Brown and especially the Colts running game to decided to go with the more sure thing in Jennings. The other team was desperate for a RB and took the gamble on Brown, which could still pay off big time in that Colts offense if Addai moves on.

 

[Todem]

I would not offer more than a 1.4 rookie pick.

Brown has a nice upside...but I think the first 3 rookies off the board have a better upside long term. And a couple of them pay off this season.

 

[bmsarvis]

Phil Richards of the Indianapolis Star doesn't believe that Donald Brown will ever be a feature back. Analysis: When you play for the Colts, "feature back" is a loose term. As long as Peyton Manning is in the fold, no one is going to get 20+ carries a game anyway. Still, with Joseph Addai set to become a free agent after this season, Brown has an opportunity for a significant role if he can prove Richards wrong.

just seen this anybody have a change of heart or argument against