dickey moe
Fingerpicker
...only one game ahead of Tennessee in the AFC South. Anyone nervous?
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I don't see how Tenn keeps winning each week. The Colts are heads above the Titans but are only ahead by one game. Anything's possible in the NFL.
Sheriff66
Footballguy
Not with Young at QB, he is Kordell/Vick part deux
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
The Titans are solid, but Indy owns the AFC South. That's not going to change this year.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Tennessee has at least overtaken JAX as Indy's main competition. Tennessee played very well against Indy the first go round this year.
All Vince Young does is win football games!Not with Young at QB, he is Kordell/Vick part deux
They were one B Jones drop from beating them
Sheriff66
Footballguy
So did Vick and KordellAll Vince Young does is win football games!Not with Young at QB, he is Kordell/Vick part deux
Don't forget Billy Volek and Kyle Orton.So did Vick and KordellAll Vince Young does is win football games!Not with Young at QB, he is Kordell/Vick part deux
enfuego
Footballguy
The Colts are at least 2 pts better in their last game heads up and 3 pts worse in the one prior...hmmmmmm, come to think of it, far, far better is not an accurate statement at all...The Titans have the better D, Colts the better O. However, defense wins championships.
Comparing each O and D, each have a clear advantage too. It's not even close IMO.I think the Titans may have the better special teams but with Welker's recent ST success maybe I'm just a little sour on the Colts ST.The Colts are at least 2 pts better in their last game heads up and 3 pts worse in the one prior...hmmmmmm, come to think of it, far, far better is not an accurate statement at all...The Titans have the better D, Colts the better O. However, defense wins championships.
The Titans plays the Colts as well as anyone. Very impressive how they've kept the score relatively low and kept it a real close game. That is the perfect scenario for the Titans. If it's down to one drive, Young is so dangerous. Even ol' Moulds with his veteran mitts could be a prob if it's down to one drive and he just needs to make one key catch. If Indy finds a crack in Tennessee's armor and gets a good lead, I can't see Young throwing it all over and bringing them back. Maybe (big maybe)Collins could but I don't see that coming from Young. Colts should take their share of deep shots to try and break it open IMO. More than any player to player matchup, a lead would hurt the Titans the most.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Don't forget Billy Volek and Kyle Orton.So did Vick and KordellAll Vince Young does is win football games!Not with Young at QB, he is Kordell/Vick part deux
SSOG!!Throw in trent dilfer too
Please. Yes, Tennessee has a better defense than Indy, and Indy has a better offense than Tennessee... but Indy's defense is still top-10, possibly top-5, while Tennessee's offense could be described as mediocre... if you were feeling generous. If you like DVOA, coming into this week the difference between #2 Indy and #8 Tennessee was 39.9%... or about the same as the difference between #8 Tennessee and #22 Chicago.Comparing each O and D, each have a clear advantage too. It's not even close IMO.I think the Titans may have the better special teams but with Welker's recent ST success maybe I'm just a little sour on the Colts ST.The Colts are at least 2 pts better in their last game heads up and 3 pts worse in the one prior...hmmmmmm, come to think of it, far, far better is not an accurate statement at all...The Titans have the better D, Colts the better O. However, defense wins championships.
omally
Footballguy
PatrickT
Footballguy
Can you say Defense?I knew you could./Mr. Rogers
They got to the Super Bowl last year. So I guess they beat them by enough. I don't really put a lot of stock in what has happened in the past. This is this year and the Colts are clearly heads and shoulders above the Titans in talent.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
If Houston had one won more game up to this point, everyone in that division would've been over .500 after 9 weeks. Wonder how many times that's happened, if ever?
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Would you be willing to bet on the their next meeting and give me Tenn +15?
Why would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.
I think it's possible the Steelers can take the #2 seed in the AFC over the Colts and it might happen as soon as this weekend. If the Colts lose to the Chargers(which I predict they will) and the Steelers beat the Browns the Steelers will be the current #2 seed since they would have a better AFC record. Going forward the Steelers have only one game left on their schedule against a team they will not be favored to win and that is against the Pat's. The Colts should also be favored in all of their remaining games but I think they have a far more difficult schedule than the Steelers.
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Insoxicated
While I don't disagree that indy is better than TN.. when was the last time Indy beat TN by 14 points?Just becuase they score 14pts more on average doesn't mean theyr'e 14pts better head to headWhy would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.
First off, I don't know if they average 14 more points per week. I simply said I thought they were 14 points better on average than the Titans. So don't think I was quoting any actual NFL stats or anything.And secondly, your second statement is actually exactly what I was saying. I didn't say I thought they would beat the Titans by 14 head to head week in and week out. But that seems to be the way people took it.
happy_donut
Footballguy
bigreese82
Footballguy
The last 3 GAMES that INDY has faced the TITANS
Indy 17- Titans 20
Indy 14- Titans 13
Indy 22- Titans 20
Indy 17- Titans 20
Indy 14- Titans 13
Indy 22- Titans 20
PahtyTom
Footballguy
Tennessee has the best defense in the NFL. It's scary to think how good they would be with Pacman. With that defense, and the way they pound the rock, it's not easy to beat them.
Nice job of cutting the sentences you wanted and taking them out of context.
Why is everyone locked in on how the Colts fared against the Titans? The question the OP asked was were Indy fans worried about Tenn being behind them? It isn't like Tenn and Indy are going to play each other the last 8 games.
happy_donut
Footballguy
Context is right on the money! Sorry if you don't see the irony:Nice job of cutting the sentences you wanted and taking them out of context.
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
You have lost your stupid argument. It is time to stop talking now.Why would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.
You have lost your stupid argument. It is time to stop talking now.Why would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.
Some teams matchup well. The Titans match up well with Indy. Remember when Houston was a bottom feeder versus the mediocre they are this year? Well, they owned Jacksonville, even though Jacksonville went to the playoffs and Houston was a top 5 drafter. Not saying Tennessee is not a solid team, they are, but them playing Indy close doesn't mean they are as good a team. They played Indy close last year and one team won the Super Bowl and the other didn't make the playoffs.It is kind of like last night. People were all over Willie Parker saying how bad he was last night. Well, this is still a guy averaging over 1400 yards rushing and 4.5 ypc for 16 games in his 2.5 years of starting. However, the Ravens have his (and the Steelers OL's) number. Doesn't mean Parker is bad, just means the Ravens defensive scheme matchups well. Other lesser RBs have done better against the Ravens, but it doesn't mean they are better.Maybe Indy's scheme is just bad for running QB's like Young. Doesn't mean that Tennessee would hang with NE even though Indy almost beat them. Tennessee's pass defense might get riddled by Brady because they don't have the edge rushers like Freeney/Mathis.Wow, that time of the month?Weapon of Mass Instruction said:You have lost your stupid argument. It is time to stop talking now.Why would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.
Actually no, it isn't. The first point he made was TENN played IND close last year. I said they still made the SB so the fact it was close affected nothing. His second point was that because they played them close last year, they would do the same this year. I pointed out that last years game results didn't have bearing on this years results. So sorry, but just because you claim that you are right certainly doesn't make it so. And in this case, you are wrong, still.Man, what a pissy day in this fourm. Guess some people are feeling a little touchy about their home town teams or something.happy_donut said:Context is right on the money! Sorry if you don't see the irony:Loke said:Nice job of cutting the sentences you wanted and taking them out of context.
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Don't waste your time. He's proclaimed himself right and in this thread, that seems to carry weight for some reason. At least it seems to be the "thing to do."stbugs said:Weapon of Mass Instruction said:You have lost your stupid argument. It is time to stop talking now.Why would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.Some teams matchup well. The Titans match up well with Indy. Remember when Houston was a bottom feeder versus the mediocre they are this year? Well, they owned Jacksonville, even though Jacksonville went to the playoffs and Houston was a top 5 drafter. Not saying Tennessee is not a solid team, they are, but them playing Indy close doesn't mean they are as good a team. They played Indy close last year and one team won the Super Bowl and the other didn't make the playoffs.It is kind of like last night. People were all over Willie Parker saying how bad he was last night. Well, this is still a guy averaging over 1400 yards rushing and 4.5 ypc for 16 games in his 2.5 years of starting. However, the Ravens have his (and the Steelers OL's) number. Doesn't mean Parker is bad, just means the Ravens defensive scheme matchups well. Other lesser RBs have done better against the Ravens, but it doesn't mean they are better.Maybe Indy's scheme is just bad for running QB's like Young. Doesn't mean that Tennessee would hang with NE even though Indy almost beat them. Tennessee's pass defense might get riddled by Brady because they don't have the edge rushers like Freeney/Mathis.
happy_donut
Footballguy
Ah, but that wasn't his second point. His second point was that they played them close THIS year.Go ahead, read it again.
ETA: Here's a link to the score from This year (week 2):http://www.nfl.com/schedules#Week2
HTH.
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enfuego
Footballguy
WRONG...Freeny/Mathis combined = 8 sacks combined (4 each). Titans Vanden Bosch/Laboy have 10 combined (5 each)...that's not even to mention Haynesworth's 5...Titans team total = 22Maybe Indy's scheme is just bad for running QB's like Young. Doesn't mean that Tennessee would hang with NE even though Indy almost beat them. Tennessee's pass defense might get riddled by Brady because they don't have the edge rushers like Freeney/Mathis.You have lost your stupid argument. It is time to stop talking now.Why would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.
Indy = 14
Maybe in the past it was the other way around, but starting in 2007, edge rushers and team D...Advantage = Tennessee...
pizzatyme
Footballguy
I'm not sure, but I think Indy is playing a little tougher schedule.WRONG...Freeny/Mathis combined = 8 sacks combined (4 each). Titans Vanden Bosch/Laboy have 10 combined (5 each)...that's not even to mention Haynesworth's 5...Titans team total = 22Maybe Indy's scheme is just bad for running QB's like Young. Doesn't mean that Tennessee would hang with NE even though Indy almost beat them. Tennessee's pass defense might get riddled by Brady because they don't have the edge rushers like Freeney/Mathis.You have lost your stupid argument. It is time to stop talking now.Why would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.
Indy = 14
Maybe in the past it was the other way around, but starting in 2007, edge rushers and team D...Advantage = Tennessee...
enfuego
Footballguy
Mmm, yeah, I'm going to have to go ahead and ask you to get your info right, m'kay? All mostly common opponents so far except the Pats and Broncos (who the Titans play on MNF in two weeks).I'm not sure, but I think Indy is playing a little tougher schedule.WRONG...Freeny/Mathis combined = 8 sacks combined (4 each). Titans Vanden Bosch/Laboy have 10 combined (5 each)...that's not even to mention Haynesworth's 5...Titans team total = 22Maybe Indy's scheme is just bad for running QB's like Young. Doesn't mean that Tennessee would hang with NE even though Indy almost beat them. Tennessee's pass defense might get riddled by Brady because they don't have the edge rushers like Freeney/Mathis.You have lost your stupid argument. It is time to stop talking now.Why would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.
Indy = 14
Maybe in the past it was the other way around, but starting in 2007, edge rushers and team D...Advantage = Tennessee...
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Ah yes, mkay buddy, thanks for setting me straight!Let's get the info right...Mmm, yeah, I'm going to have to go ahead and ask you to get your info right, m'kay? All mostly common opponents so far except the Pats and Broncos (who the Titans play on MNF in two weeks).I'm not sure, but I think Indy is playing a little tougher schedule.WRONG...Freeny/Mathis combined = 8 sacks combined (4 each). Titans Vanden Bosch/Laboy have 10 combined (5 each)...that's not even to mention Haynesworth's 5...Titans team total = 22Maybe Indy's scheme is just bad for running QB's like Young. Doesn't mean that Tennessee would hang with NE even though Indy almost beat them. Tennessee's pass defense might get riddled by Brady because they don't have the edge rushers like Freeney/Mathis.You have lost your stupid argument. It is time to stop talking now.Why would I? I answered the OPs question, is Indy worried? I said no, I think Indy is much better, 14 points better on average. Do I personally care if they win by 1 or 15? Not at all. Probably care if they win by 1 or 30 about as much as Manning does.
Indy = 14
Maybe in the past it was the other way around, but starting in 2007, edge rushers and team D...Advantage = Tennessee...
We both played Tampa Bay. The Colts won and the Titans lost.
The 2 uncommon opponents thus far to date?
The Titans have beaten the Falcons 2-6 record and the Raiders 2-6 record.
While the Colts have beaten the Broncos 3-5 record and lost to the Patriots 9-0 record.
Now, while I'm not a math wiz, I believe 12-5 combined record of Colts uncommon opponents is slightly better than the Titans uncommon opponent's combined record of 4-12?!
Now, ultimately, the 2 uncommon opponents the 2 teams have are
Titans play the Bengals and Jets while the
Colts play the Patriots and Ravens.
As it stands right now, the combined records of the Titans final uncommon opponents is 3-14 while the Colts 2 opponents have a current combined record of 13-4.
So, anyway you slice it, I stand corrected, the Colts HAVE played a tougher schedule already. And WILL play a tougher schedule this year.
Thanks for making me get me facts straight, Mmm m'kay?!!!
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Nice bump.
I posted this originally as a curiosity. The Titans aren't even in the same league as the Colts.
I posted this originally as a curiosity. The Titans aren't even in the same league as the Colts.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
No harm, no foul. I laughed as Aikman suggested that NE and Dallas were the top 2 teams in the league. What exactly has Indy done to allow the Cowboys to move ahead of them?
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I think that's an arguable point. I'd be hard pressed to rank anyone (other than New England) ahead of Indy and Dallas right now. An Indy/Dallas Super Bowl would be a great matchup.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I don't know why you'd laugh. Both Indy and Dallas have only 1 loss and it's by the same team. I also think he's trying to hype the NFC just a bit so that the Super Bowl, which is the biggest game isn't a forgone conclusion after the AFC Championship.
Well, it is a foregone conclusion. He can try and make it SEEM otherwise. But let's face it, barring some season ending QB injuries in the AFC, the NFC is playing for the right to lose to the AFC and that's about it.
