Draft BOTH Packer Kickers? (1 Viewer)

[smackdaddies]

Dave Raynor and Mason Crosby continue to hammer the ball.

Both are consistent, and both have demonstrated the ability to nail a 50 yard plus field goal (which gets bonus points in the leagues I play in)

I can't imagine the pack keeping both kickers on the roster, as both have strong legs for kick offs.

That sets up the potential to trade one of them as the pre season winds down and potentially one of them ending up on a contending team.

What teams out there need an upgrade in the kicking position and is it worth it to take both Pack kickers "betting on the come" that one of them is going to end up in a good situation (and knowing that whomever sticks with the Pack will likely end up with the 10th best kicker or so)?

 

[Warhogs]

Unless this is some league where teams hoard kickers your answer is No, you do not want to tie up extra roster spaces on the kicker position.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

definitely not worth it. depending on your league size and roster req's, they could both start the season the wire.

 

[LionsFan78]

Honestly, I think it's best to just avoid both GB kickers, no matter who wins it. Even if Rayner walked into the season as the unquestioned #1, there's just too many factors to consider. Playing environment, offensive effeciency, etc. Plus, Rayner had horrible accuracy last year, and you can't expect a rookie to fare much better. There will likely be much better K's sitting there. I see guys like Mare and Hanson sitting there after everyone else has grabbed a K, and I believe both to be in contention for a top 12 season.

 

[AB in DC]

A lot of people avoided the Chicago K situation last year, for the same reasons, then missed out on Gould's studly numbers.

Just a thought.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Don't pick both, just pick the right one.

And I'm really conflicted on which one that is. Last year I took Gould in the last round and was right. I could be dead wrong this year.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Also... Green Bay's offense falls into a range which I think lends itself to lots of FGs. And since PKs are easy to get off the waiver wire, I don't see a problem with taking them both back to back in the last rounds of the draft. Get a backup off waivers once you find out which one is right.

 

[Mike Herman]

Right now, the two likely places I could see the "loser" between Rayner and Crosby ending up is either Atlanta or the NY Giants. I would not want the kicker for either of those teams this year.

 

[LionsFan78]

A lot of people avoided the Chicago K situation last year, for the same reasons, then missed out on Gould's studly numbers.Just a thought.

Interested in hearing more here. Do you see similiarities between the two situations? Did Gould have training camp competition? (Not being sarcastic, I really just don't remember). Anyways, Green Bay does have a pretty potent defense working in their favor, and that does tend to help K situations. I just believe there's better picks out there. But to add more to the OP's question, there is no sense in taking them both. Given the round he was drafted him, and pending any more camp updates, I guess I'd lean Crosby.

 

[Angus82]

Dave Raynor and Mason Crosby continue to hammer the ball.Both are consistent, and both have demonstrated the ability to nail a 50 yard plus field goal (which gets bonus points in the leagues I play in)I can't imagine the pack keeping both kickers on the roster, as both have strong legs for kick offs.That sets up the potential to trade one of them as the pre season winds down and potentially one of them ending up on a contending team.What teams out there need an upgrade in the kicking position and is it worth it to take both Pack kickers "betting on the come" that one of them is going to end up in a good situation (and knowing that whomever sticks with the Pack will likely end up with the 10th best kicker or so)?

I don't about drafting them both, but I do agree that both of these guys should end up with jobs. I personally would not draft both but I am going to watch the waiver wire and see if I can pull out this year's hidden gem.

 

[Mike Herman]

A lot of people avoided the Chicago K situation last year, for the same reasons, then missed out on Gould's studly numbers.Just a thought.

Did Gould have training camp competition? (Not being sarcastic, I really just don't remember).

Josh Huston, who is in the Giants camp this year.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

A lot of people avoided the Chicago K situation last year, for the same reasons, then missed out on Gould's studly numbers.

Looking at one of my league's stats for avg fantasy pts/game , Gould scored HALF A POINT (or LESS) more than Vinatieri, Kaeding, and Wilkins. Scored only TWO points (or LESS) more per game than the next EIGHT kickers. I'd rather use that spot to take an extra position player for that kind of payback -- which, of course assumes you pick the right one. Good kickers emerge on the wire every year.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

You have to convince me to take one first.

 

[Angus82]

You have to convince me to take one first.

And that would be the REAL definition of a "sleeper".

 

[BLOX]

Considering Crosby is consistant from 50+ yards and the Packers are going to rely on their defense, even more-so than last year, I would not imagine McCarthy having any issues with taking chances at getting points on long distance FGs. Unless your league subtracts points for misses I would consider the GB K situation to be very valuable.

 

[LionsFan78]

Considering Crosby is consistant from 50+ yards and the Packers are going to rely on their defense, even more-so than last year, I would not imagine McCarthy having any issues with taking chances at getting points on long distance FGs. Unless your league subtracts points for misses I would consider the GB K situation to be very valuable.

11 of 20 college career 50+ yarders, is that enough to base anything on?

 

[smackdaddies]

Considering Crosby is consistant from 50+ yards and the Packers are going to rely on their defense, even more-so than last year, I would not imagine McCarthy having any issues with taking chances at getting points on long distance FGs. Unless your league subtracts points for misses I would consider the GB K situation to be very valuable.

11 of 20 college career 50+ yarders, not really sure if that's enough to base anything on

In Camp and the one preseason game, both have looked good.

 

[AB in DC]

A lot of people avoided the Chicago K situation last year, for the same reasons, then missed out on Gould's studly numbers.Just a thought.

Interested in hearing more here. Do you see similiarities between the two situations? Did Gould have training camp competition? (Not being sarcastic, I really just don't remember). Anyways, Green Bay does have a pretty potent defense working in their favor, and that does tend to help K situations. I just believe there's better picks out there. But to add more to the OP's question, there is no sense in taking them both. Given the round he was drafted him, and pending any more camp updates, I guess I'd lean Crosby.

As Mike Herman said, Gould was competing with Josh Huston. Last year, no one expected the Chicago offense to be good enough for the kicker to score well. As it turned out, the passing game was light year better than 2005, and since the defense was a monster, it ended being an excellent kicking situation. I'm seeing a bit of the same in GB this year, except its the running game, not the passing game, that's seen as the major flaw. But I've seen enough improvement from the young OL and defense to make me think that the GB kicker could turn to be a decent option in the same way that Gould was last year.

 

[Blackstar]

you know you're ready for the season when you're breaking down the Green Bay kicker battle. Lucky you.

 

[videoguy505]

I didn't draft any kicker this year, and I wasn't the only team in the league to do so. I wait until I have to have my roster in to cut a late WR draft pick, whichever sleeper doesn't pan out.

 

[Angus82]

Dave Rayner is currently giving up a "slight" edge in the Packers' kicking competition with rookie Mason Crosby.

By virtue of the signing bonus Crosby received, the rookie is likely to win the job barring a major surge by Rayner, though neither player is worth drafting.

Aug. 14 - 9:44 pm et

Source: Green Bay Press-Gazette

 

[Spartans Rule]

I didn't draft any kicker this year, and I wasn't the only team in the league to do so. I wait until I have to have my roster in to cut a late WR draft pick, whichever sleeper doesn't pan out.

This is good advice, especially considering that nobody is likely to draft a Packer kicker. If you're hell-bent on getting your K from Green Bay, don't draft one at all and pick up the winner once the battle sorts itself out.

 

[Milwalkeysbeast]

Stud Kicker theory?