Draft Day Controversy (1 Viewer)

[boilerdave]

My local league held our draft party Sunday. It’s a 12 team league, 2 player keeper, $25 entry fee, group of old friends. The league is run at CBS and we use the Draft Kit they provide shown here:

http://www.cbssportsstore.com/product/inde...oductId=3687175

The Draft Kit comes with preprinted labels with the player’s name, position and team and you stick the player label on the big draft board when you make your pick.

We’re in Round 3 when Steve Smith is selected and placed on the draft board. We get to Round 6 and the league member next to pick goes to the draft board with the intent to take the Steve Smith of the Giants and notices the Panther’s Steve Smith’s pre-printed label is still available…the Giant’s Steve Smith’s label had been placed on the draft board in Round 3.

What's the Shark Pool opinion? Should the person who selected Steve Smith in the Round 3 get the Panther Steve Smith (as was his intent) for his team or should he have to keep the Giant’s Steve Smith as his Round 3 pick and the person picking Steve Smith in Round 6 gets to keep Panther Steve Smith? Note: There is no League Rule that covers these circumstances.

 

[Kiddnets]

if everyone knew he wanted Car S Smith and that was hisintent its a no brainer - give him the player he picked

 

[Weiner Dog]

My local league held our draft party Sunday. It’s a 12 team league, 2 player keeper, $25 entry fee, group of old friends. The league is run at CBS and we use the Draft Kit they provide shown here:

http://www.cbssportsstore.com/product/inde...oductId=3687175

The Draft Kit comes with preprinted labels with the player’s name, position and team and you stick the player label on the big draft board when you make your pick.

We’re in Round 3 when Steve Smith is selected and placed on the draft board. We get to Round 6 and the league member next to pick goes to the draft board with the intent to take the Steve Smith of the Giants and notices the Panther’s Steve Smith’s pre-printed label is still available…the Giant’s Steve Smith’s label had been placed on the draft board in Round 3.

What's the Shark Pool opinion? Should the person who selected Steve Smith in the Round 3 get the Panther Steve Smith (as was his intent) for his team or should he have to keep the Giant’s Steve Smith as his Round 3 pick and the person picking Steve Smith in Round 6 gets to keep Panther Steve Smith? Note: There is no League Rule that covers these circumstances.

The bolded part means you give the guy Steve Smith (CAR) in the 3rd.

 

[offdee]

Ridiculous to make it a big deal. Everyone knows he meant Carolina Steve Smith so give him that player.

 

[FairWarning]

I believe most everyone assumed it was the Carolina Smith he wanted. No different if the guy grabbed the AP from the Bears sticker at 1.1. Next time, they should announce the player and the team. No sense fighting over a $25/person league with friends.

 

[StrikeS2k]

My local league held our draft party Sunday. It’s a 12 team league, 2 player keeper, $25 entry fee, group of old friends. The league is run at CBS and we use the Draft Kit they provide shown here:

http://www.cbssportsstore.com/product/inde...oductId=3687175

The Draft Kit comes with preprinted labels with the player’s name, position and team and you stick the player label on the big draft board when you make your pick.

We’re in Round 3 when Steve Smith is selected and placed on the draft board. We get to Round 6 and the league member next to pick goes to the draft board with the intent to take the Steve Smith of the Giants and notices the Panther’s Steve Smith’s pre-printed label is still available…the Giant’s Steve Smith’s label had been placed on the draft board in Round 3.

What's the Shark Pool opinion? Should the person who selected Steve Smith in the Round 3 get the Panther Steve Smith (as was his intent) for his team or should he have to keep the Giant’s Steve Smith as his Round 3 pick and the person picking Steve Smith in Round 6 gets to keep Panther Steve Smith? Note: There is no League Rule that covers these circumstances.

Sure there is. It's the one that says when it's your turn you pick the player you want. That pick includes team, especially if you've got preprinted labels. Heck, in my league we just shout them out so the possibility of confusion is more likely. You've got preprinted labels with name, position, AND team on them and no one noticed for three rounds? Sorry, I'd say he's stuck unless everyone agrees unanimously. Hey, did Adrian Peterson from Chicago go in the first?

 

[Godsbrother]

I believe most everyone assumed it was the Carolina Smith he wanted. No different if the guy grabbed the AP from the Bears sticker at 1.1. Next time, they should announce the player and the team. No sense fighting over a $25/person league with friends.

Anyone making a big deal out of this in a league with friends isn't much of one.

 

[PatytonsGhost]

My local league held our draft party Sunday. It’s a 12 team league, 2 player keeper, $25 entry fee, group of old friends. The league is run at CBS and we use the Draft Kit they provide shown here:

http://www.cbssportsstore.com/product/inde...oductId=3687175

The Draft Kit comes with preprinted labels with the player’s name, position and team and you stick the player label on the big draft board when you make your pick.

We’re in Round 3 when Steve Smith is selected and placed on the draft board. We get to Round 6 and the league member next to pick goes to the draft board with the intent to take the Steve Smith of the Giants and notices the Panther’s Steve Smith’s pre-printed label is still available…the Giant’s Steve Smith’s label had been placed on the draft board in Round 3.

What's the Shark Pool opinion? Should the person who selected Steve Smith in the Round 3 get the Panther Steve Smith (as was his intent) for his team or should he have to keep the Giant’s Steve Smith as his Round 3 pick and the person picking Steve Smith in Round 6 gets to keep Panther Steve Smith? Note: There is no League Rule that covers these circumstances.

Whoever put the sticker on the board, it was his fault, The drafte had nothing to do with this mistake and should not be penalized. When someone picked Adrian Peterson in the first round in our league we didn't have to ask the which AP is it because we all knew who he was picking. Guy should obviously be allowed to keep Steve Smith on Carolina, it was an administrative error bfd, correct it and move on.

 

[fantasy stud]

You would have to be a complete jerk to not give the guy the player he wanted.

 

[Jewell]

My local league held our draft party Sunday. It’s a 12 team league, 2 player keeper, $25 entry fee, group of old friends. The league is run at CBS and we use the Draft Kit they provide shown here:

http://www.cbssportsstore.com/product/inde...oductId=3687175

The Draft Kit comes with preprinted labels with the player’s name, position and team and you stick the player label on the big draft board when you make your pick.

We’re in Round 3 when Steve Smith is selected and placed on the draft board. We get to Round 6 and the league member next to pick goes to the draft board with the intent to take the Steve Smith of the Giants and notices the Panther’s Steve Smith’s pre-printed label is still available…the Giant’s Steve Smith’s label had been placed on the draft board in Round 3.

What's the Shark Pool opinion? Should the person who selected Steve Smith in the Round 3 get the Panther Steve Smith (as was his intent) for his team or should he have to keep the Giant’s Steve Smith as his Round 3 pick and the person picking Steve Smith in Round 6 gets to keep Panther Steve Smith? Note: There is no League Rule that covers these circumstances.

The guy picking in Round 3 should get Steve Smith (Carolina) because that was his intent.The other guy should be stuck with Steve Smith (New York) as his 6th Round pick for trying to **** over his friend.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Do you really want to ruin friendships because CBS can't make decent graphics??

 

[Tom Servo]

There is no controversy here. I'm guessing that everyone and his brother and the bartender knew Panther Smith went in round 3.

Who actually believes that Panther Steve Smith was still available? Seriously?

 

[Godsbrother]

Do you really want to ruin friendships because CBS can't make decent graphics??

What do you want: pictures? The labels clearly state the team name -- don't see how you can blame this on CBS.

 

[G-Money]

I believe most everyone assumed it was the Carolina Smith he wanted. No different if the guy grabbed the AP from the Bears sticker at 1.1. Next time, they should announce the player and the team. No sense fighting over a $25/person league with friends.

 

[MCguidance]

We had a situation with a guy's comp freezing during our MFL draft. He wanted Shockey, and was given Tenn D. As commissioner I stopped the draft because he was saying, my comps frozen, I want Shockey. THe next pick someone remotely picked Shockey. I stopped it and then went back, someone said what the hell is going on over there? I made the decision to revert it back, regardless of what anyone said. Everyone in the league was totally cool with it anyway, but we wouldn't **** over anyone just to win this league. It's FUN, not going to make a huge deal for $6.

 

[Crusaderfan]

Not a person in that room thought he picked the Giants Smith did they? How can you screw the guy over on that one? If you didn't have stickers and he actually called out who he was picking - he would have got the right one. This was just a technical error that should be excused among friends

 

[millertyme1]

Woulda been awesome if a fist fight broke out over something as ridiculous as this.

The real controversy here may be finding out if there's a third Steve Smith in the league as the Giants one shouldn't be going Round 6 either.

 

[HoTnickZ]

Rd 3 pick gets NYG SS, rd 6 gets CAR SS.

If you can't interfere with owners mistakes in trades, you can't do it with drafting.

 

[SmashEmUp]

Come on. It was obvious to all who was being picked in the 3rd round. The guy drafting in the 6th round is a jerk for trying to get over on the other guy and the league. Doesn't sound like much of a friend.

 

[boilerdave]

Thanks for the responses. I’m the guy who picked Smith in the 3rd but put up the wrong sticker. The league’s commissioner is the guy who went for the Giant’s Smith in the 6th, got the Panther’s Smith and won’t give him up. As pointed out by several of you there is practically no money on the line and no friendships are going to be lost over it. Everybody had a good laugh at my expense yesterday. I sent an email to the commish this morning pointing out the fact I was obviously picking the Carolina Steve Smith and the mistake should be corrected….haven’t heard back from him yet.

 

[Twilight]

There is a bigger question here. Why is the NY Steve Smith being drafted in the 6th?????

 

[millertyme1]

You should not need a 'League Rule' for common sense.

 

[FairWarning]

Thanks for the responses. I’m the guy who picked Smith in the 3rd but put up the wrong sticker. The league’s commissioner is the guy who went for the Giant’s Smith in the 6th, got the Panther’s Smith and won’t give him up. As pointed out by several of you there is practically no money on the line and no friendships are going to be lost over it. Everybody had a good laugh at my expense yesterday. I sent an email to the commish this morning pointing out the fact I was obviously picking the Carolina Steve Smith and the mistake should be corrected….haven’t heard back from him yet.

To further illustrate your point, wonder how many people crossed the Carolina Smith off of their cheatsheets after you made the 3rd round pick? I bet all of them.

 

[MCguidance]

There is a bigger question here. Why is the NY Steve Smith being drafted in the 6th?????

 

[millertyme1]

Thanks for the responses. I’m the guy who picked Smith in the 3rd but put up the wrong sticker. The league’s commissioner is the guy who went for the Giant’s Smith in the 6th, got the Panther’s Smith and won’t give him up. As pointed out by several of you there is practically no money on the line and no friendships are going to be lost over it. Everybody had a good laugh at my expense yesterday. I sent an email to the commish this morning pointing out the fact I was obviously picking the Carolina Steve Smith and the mistake should be corrected….haven’t heard back from him yet.

Your commissioner is a moron and should be replaced. It should have been cleared up on the spot at the draft.If he's your friend, that's unfortunate.

 

[FairWarning]

You should not need a 'League Rule' for common sense.

There is always one in every league who is looking to bend a rule though.

 

[SmashEmUp]

Thanks for the responses. I’m the guy who picked Smith in the 3rd but put up the wrong sticker. The league’s commissioner is the guy who went for the Giant’s Smith in the 6th, got the Panther’s Smith and won’t give him up. As pointed out by several of you there is practically no money on the line and no friendships are going to be lost over it. Everybody had a good laugh at my expense yesterday. I sent an email to the commish this morning pointing out the fact I was obviously picking the Carolina Steve Smith and the mistake should be corrected….haven’t heard back from him yet.

Well to each his own I guess. That would be enough for me to leave the league and lose a "friend" over.

 

[Jewell]

There is a bigger question here. Why is the NY Steve Smith being drafted in the 6th?????

Therein lies the problem. What if the commissioner says, "I never would have taken Steve Smith (NY) in the sixth round. I only took Steve Smith in the sixth because I knew that I was getting Steve Smith (CAR)."No reasonable person would take Steve Smith (NY) in the sixth round. I'm sure that this guy, as the commissioner, won't simply accept being stuck with Steve Smith (NY) as his sixth round pick. This could end up being a lot more problematic than simply swapping the Steve Smiths.

 

[GroveDiesel]

The greatest thing would be if Steve Smith (Giants) had a huge year while Steve Smith (Car) blew out his knee week 1.

 

[StrikeS2k]

You should not need a 'League Rule' for common sense.

There is always one in every league who is looking to bend a rule though.

Bend a rule? The first guy puts up Steve Smith from the Giants. The next guy sees Steve Smith from Carolina is available well past his ADP and jumps on it. Exactly what rule did he "bend"? Look, I get being cool about an obvious mistake but no one here did anything wrong. The mistake was made by the ORIGINAL drafter who took the wrong player. The only question is whether the league should basically give him a "do over".

 

[SmashEmUp]

There is a bigger question here. Why is the NY Steve Smith being drafted in the 6th?????

Therein lies the problem. What if the commissioner says, "I never would have taken Steve Smith (NY) in the sixth round. I only took Steve Smith in the sixth because I knew that I was getting Steve Smith (CAR)."No reasonable person would take Steve Smith (NY) in the sixth round. I'm sure that this guy, as the commissioner, won't simply accept being stuck with Steve Smith (NY) as his sixth round pick. This could end up being a lot more problematic than simply swapping the Steve Smiths.

But if you use that logic, then common sense would have told the Commish in the first place that Steve Smith of New York wasn't being selected in the 3rd. No, the Commish is just being a jerk.

 

[Jewell]

There is a bigger question here. Why is the NY Steve Smith being drafted in the 6th?????

Therein lies the problem. What if the commissioner says, "I never would have taken Steve Smith (NY) in the sixth round. I only took Steve Smith in the sixth because I knew that I was getting Steve Smith (CAR)."No reasonable person would take Steve Smith (NY) in the sixth round. I'm sure that this guy, as the commissioner, won't simply accept being stuck with Steve Smith (NY) as his sixth round pick. This could end up being a lot more problematic than simply swapping the Steve Smiths.

But if you use that logic, then common sense would have told the Commish in the first place that Steve Smith of New York wasn't being selected in the 3rd. No, the Commish is just being a jerk.

I totally agree that the commish is being a jerk. That's what makes me think that he's not simply going to roll over and accept being stuck with Steve Smith (NY) as his sixth round pick. That's probably what he deserves for trying to **** over his friend, but I just can't see him agreeing to that based on what little we know about him already.

 

[SmashEmUp]

I totally agree that the commish is being a jerk. That's what makes me think that he's not simply going to roll over and accept being stuck with Steve Smith (NY) as his sixth round pick. That's probably what he deserves for trying to **** over his friend, but I just can't see him agreeing to that based on what little we know about him already.

True. Sounds that way. That's why I'd bail out if it was me. Even though I wouldn't have made that mistake in the first place, I wouldn't stay in a league with a Commish who would do that to one of the other owners.

 

[The Big Guy]

Why are you guys paying more for your website then you pay for your league? $25 per for entry and 17 per for website? Are you guys that nuts?

 

[creeps1313]

Intent in like 90% of the law...or something like that. This shouldnt even be an issue.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

My local league held our draft party Sunday. It’s a 12 team league, 2 player keeper, $25 entry fee, group of old friends. The league is run at CBS and we use the Draft Kit they provide shown here:

http://www.cbssportsstore.com/product/inde...oductId=3687175

The Draft Kit comes with preprinted labels with the player’s name, position and team and you stick the player label on the big draft board when you make your pick.

We’re in Round 3 when Steve Smith is selected and placed on the draft board. We get to Round 6 and the league member next to pick goes to the draft board with the intent to take the Steve Smith of the Giants and notices the Panther’s Steve Smith’s pre-printed label is still available…the Giant’s Steve Smith’s label had been placed on the draft board in Round 3.

What's the Shark Pool opinion? Should the person who selected Steve Smith in the Round 3 get the Panther Steve Smith (as was his intent) for his team or should he have to keep the Giant’s Steve Smith as his Round 3 pick and the person picking Steve Smith in Round 6 gets to keep Panther Steve Smith? Note: There is no League Rule that covers these circumstances.

Honestly it depends on the league. League of friends, give him the right steve smith. Money league, give him what he picked. His bad.I think the call really has to go to the second guy.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

You would have to be a complete jerk to not give the guy the player he wanted.

true, but if this was WCOFF what would happen? He's get steve smith NY.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

We had a situation with a guy's comp freezing during our MFL draft. He wanted Shockey, and was given Tenn D. As commissioner I stopped the draft because he was saying, my comps frozen, I want Shockey. THe next pick someone remotely picked Shockey. I stopped it and then went back, someone said what the hell is going on over there? I made the decision to revert it back, regardless of what anyone said. Everyone in the league was totally cool with it anyway, but we wouldn't **** over anyone just to win this league. It's FUN, not going to make a huge deal for $6.

This is a different situation. Though with the speed of drafting software it created multiple issues in my leagues. Hopefully a better solution is available. maybe a "Fire alwarm" button, that anyone can press, that freezes the draft, so that things can be sorted out.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Thanks for the responses. I’m the guy who picked Smith in the 3rd but put up the wrong sticker. The league’s commissioner is the guy who went for the Giant’s Smith in the 6th, got the Panther’s Smith and won’t give him up. As pointed out by several of you there is practically no money on the line and no friendships are going to be lost over it. Everybody had a good laugh at my expense yesterday. I sent an email to the commish this morning pointing out the fact I was obviously picking the Carolina Steve Smith and the mistake should be corrected….haven’t heard back from him yet.

if no money at stake this is a big red flag that your commish is a selfish #######.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

There is a bigger question here. Why is the NY Steve Smith being drafted in the 6th?????

Because the comish noticed the "error" and was exploiting it before someone else did.

 

[millertyme1]

You should not need a 'League Rule' for common sense.

There is always one in every league who is looking to bend a rule though.

Bend a rule? The first guy puts up Steve Smith from the Giants. The next guy sees Steve Smith from Carolina is available well past his ADP and jumps on it. Exactly what rule did he "bend"? Look, I get being cool about an obvious mistake but no one here did anything wrong. The mistake was made by the ORIGINAL drafter who took the wrong player. The only question is whether the league should basically give him a "do over".

You should not need a 'League Rule' for common sense

 

[ICON211]

You use a pay site for a $25 league?

 

[Burning Sensation]

My local league held our draft party Sunday. It’s a 12 team league, 2 player keeper, $25 entry fee, group of old friends. The league is run at CBS and we use the Draft Kit they provide shown here:

http://www.cbssportsstore.com/product/inde...oductId=3687175

The Draft Kit comes with preprinted labels with the player’s name, position and team and you stick the player label on the big draft board when you make your pick.

We’re in Round 3 when Steve Smith is selected and placed on the draft board. We get to Round 6 and the league member next to pick goes to the draft board with the intent to take the Steve Smith of the Giants and notices the Panther’s Steve Smith’s pre-printed label is still available…the Giant’s Steve Smith’s label had been placed on the draft board in Round 3.

What's the Shark Pool opinion? Should the person who selected Steve Smith in the Round 3 get the Panther Steve Smith (as was his intent) for his team or should he have to keep the Giant’s Steve Smith as his Round 3 pick and the person picking Steve Smith in Round 6 gets to keep Panther Steve Smith? Note: There is no League Rule that covers these circumstances.

His intent was not to take the Giants Smith in the 6th, he had just noticed that the Panthers Smith was available, and took him. He should have been cool about it and pointed out the mistake, but since he didnt and selected the Panthers Smith,you are stuck with the Giants guy. No way was anyone trying to take Giants Smith in the 6th round, you are kidding yourself if you think he should trade Smiths with you at this point.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

If there are no humans around to correct the error because the draft is done entirely by computer with no way to mechanically undo the pick, that's one thing.

But if there are any humans around with commish powers, the guy in the third round gets Steve Smith (CAR).

Obvious typos or their equivalents are always correctable. When a store advertises shoes for 50 cents when it obviously meant 50 dollars, it is not obliged to sell them for 50 cents. When an employment contract specifies a $950 hourly wage when it obviously meant $9.50, the employer is not bound to pay a hundred times its intent.

Trying to pull a "gotcha" on somebody over what is effectively a typo is poor form in fantasy football as it is in the rest of life, and should not be rewarded.

 

[jpeace121]

To me, the issue that puts this to bed is that no one else tried to draft Panther Steve Smith until the 6th round. If others actually thought Panther Smith were there in round 4 or 5, he definitely gets snapped up. Sounds to me like a case of the commish taking advantage of a situation where he knows he enforces the rules and can protect the pick he made. In other words, your commish is most likely a ####.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

This is an absolute non-issue.

If something like this happened to me in my league of actual, true friends, the manager who obviously wanted the Panther Steve smith would get him, no doubt.

Of course, like I said, we are actually friends in my league and not douchebags.

 

[Chaka]

There is a bigger question here. Why is the NY Steve Smith being drafted in the 6th?????

Therein lies the problem. What if the commissioner says, "I never would have taken Steve Smith (NY) in the sixth round. I only took Steve Smith in the sixth because I knew that I was getting Steve Smith (CAR)."No reasonable person would take Steve Smith (NY) in the sixth round. I'm sure that this guy, as the commissioner, won't simply accept being stuck with Steve Smith (NY) as his sixth round pick. This could end up being a lot more problematic than simply swapping the Steve Smiths.

That's the commish's problem for trying to be an ######e.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

There is a bigger question here. Why is the NY Steve Smith being drafted in the 6th?????

so the commish can cheat

 

[Johnny Ice]

The commish is being a dillweed and I would play hardball and leave them one team short.

 

[mashers]

Commish is a #####. Any friend walks up to the board and says "Hey I think you took the wrong Steve Smith in the third round" and fixes the mistake, then he makes his round six pick which is obviously not going to be Steve Smith NYG. What a #####. Please update when this situation shakes itself out.