Drafting out of the 5 hole in FFPC/FBGPC Tonight (1 Viewer)

[habsfan]

Throughout the course of the season there are tons of running backs that are not drafted that will be on starting playoff fantasy rosters at the end of the year. Its simply not that way with wideouts.

There are "darlings" that emerge at RB and WR every year and I've failed to notice it being heavily slanted towards RBs versus WRs.

 

[pantherclub]

What TE's were available when you took Benson/Wells?

this is a good question...Benson was the best VBD pick for over a full round per my projections.Winslow was the next TE who went almost a full round later.

You got too hung up on "value" and that torpedoed your draft. Its obvious your draft went off the rails in the 4rth round and you tried to play cute and buck the system with picking so many running backs. I think you will pay dearly for it.

 

[pantherclub]

Throughout the course of the season there are tons of running backs that are not drafted that will be on starting playoff fantasy rosters at the end of the year. Its simply not that way with wideouts.

There are "darlings" that emerge at RB and WR every year and I've failed to notice it being heavily slanted towards RBs versus WRs.

Trust me I have done extensive research. The points for starters not drafted heavily favor running backs then wide outs. It is a simple injury aspect. Plus the fact that crappy teams late in the year may make a running back change to see what they have.

 

[LHUCKS]

The posters in this thread totally piss me off... I think you have a very solid team.(1) You have a great QB duo.QB -- Rivers (STUD) with a Bradford as a nice backup option(2) This is a 12 Team League starting 2 RB's and 2 FLEX positions. Barring injury, Benson, Bradshaw and Wells should outscore a lot, if not all, every single WR for the year. By having 5 starting RB's, you not only are taking this option away from other owners, but you are also posting a W almost every week at both FLEX positions. On top of that, you have what could be two top 5 RBs in Chris Johnson and MJD. Very solid.RB -- Chris JohnsonRB -- MJDFLEX -- BradshawFLEX -- Wells/BensonSo far, you have a very good chance at winning all 5 of those positions each week.(3) With the exception of very elite WR's, the position is a crapshoot most weeks. Yes, it is a big weakness, but I think that the other 5 spots above should be able to carry you most weeks. You need solid production here. Guys like Hines Ward who always get you X points each week. You don't need home runs, you need walks and singles.WR -- Flavor of the WeekWR -- Flavor of the Week(4) The TE is very valuable in this format. Vernon Davis is no JMike, but who is? Just like WR's, the TE can be a crapshoot from week to week. That being said, you have good odds to win this position each week.So far, that puts us at 8 positions. The WR's are most likely a loss each week, but the other 6 can be won each week. I would say most weeks you will have 5 position wins and 3 position losses before adding the defense and kicker.(5) Defense and KickerIn order to beat you most weeks, the other team will have to get lucky and beat you at both of these positions. I will take those odds every day.OUTLOOK -- I see the following record for the season:(1) WR production -- Non existant -- 6-7 (10% chance)(2) WR production -- Stable -- 9-4 (60% chance)(3) WR production -- Above expectations -- 11-2 (10% chance)(4) You hit a streak of bad luck and it doesn't matter either way (20% chance)IMO, that gives you about a 70% chance of getting in the playoffs. Like I said before, I will take those odds every day.

I completely agree with your analysis, the key is to not get totally killed at WR, which I believe I have a decent shot at.yeah, I'm not sure if those that are reading this thread realize the starting lineup requirements or what, I'm surprised more people don't like my team...maybe most people are so used to the start 3 WR PPR format they don't realize how different the dual flex format is???? If I were to objectively look at the rest of the teams, I would put my team in the top 4.

 

[LHUCKS]

you tried to play cute and buck the system with picking so many running backs. I think you will pay dearly for it.

you realize I can start four of them right?

 

[LHUCKS]

3. I love the Wells pick. People can harp on it, but he's very similar to DeAngelo in that a highly touted rookie RB might mean nothing this year, and he's like McFadden in that this time last year DMC picks had the exact same response as Wells pick - former first bust, injury risk, ya-da ya-da ya-da.

Agreed. I haven't post my RB values yet, but needless to say Wells is one of them...great upside for a relatively cheap price. That being said, Williams went earlier then I expected.

You have sparked some interest in Berrian - he is gonna be a great late round flier with McNabb in Minny and Rice gone. Who else is gonna be a deep threat?

Yeah, I was very, very happy to get Berrian and Moss in the last four rounds. Prior to the draft I prepared a list of high risk/high reward WRs that I might be able to steal at the end of the draft and both Moss and Berrian were near the top of that list...very happy with that.

 

[pantherclub]

you tried to play cute and buck the system with picking so many running backs. I think you will pay dearly for it.

you realize I can start four of them right?

yes but you still have to start 2 wr. I doubt that makes up for the point differential especially considering there are an almost unlimited supply of plug and play running backs from quarter season on. Plus if I read correctly trades are not allowed, dude you are screwed big time. Plus what happens if one of your top 3 guys just totally bust. I can see Bradshaw and or MJD having a down year. Then its a wasted pick especially when you feel you have to start them since you drafted them high. I would have to assume Jennings, Vjax, Bowe maybe even Wayne were still on the board at the 2nd turn. All of those guys will get their points. I see little risk in those 4 I just named.

 

[bonesman]

smarmy

educating the pool one thread at a time

This was definitely a great lesson in what not to do.

 

[pantherclub]

3. I love the Wells pick. People can harp on it, but he's very similar to DeAngelo in that a highly touted rookie RB might mean nothing this year, and he's like McFadden in that this time last year DMC picks had the exact same response as Wells pick - former first bust, injury risk, ya-da ya-da ya-da.

Agreed. I haven't post my RB values yet, but needless to say Wells is one of them...great upside for a relatively cheap price. That being said, Williams went earlier then I expected.

You have sparked some interest in Berrian - he is gonna be a great late round flier with McNabb in Minny and Rice gone. Who else is gonna be a deep threat?

Yeah, I was very, very happy to get Berrian and Moss in the last four rounds.

Prior to the draft I prepared a list of high risk/high reward WRs that I might be able to steal at the end of the draft and both Moss and Berrian were near the top of that list...very happy with that.

Not to keep dogging your team but why in the hell would you think these guys would be steals? You should have been picking running backs or another qb here instead. What has BB ever done to warrant a roster spot especially now? Plus Moss isnt even on a roster as of today. Even if he was he was garbage last year with one of the best qb's in the game. I just think your entire logic of this draft was ### backward.

 

[LHUCKS]

3. I love the Wells pick. People can harp on it, but he's very similar to DeAngelo in that a highly touted rookie RB might mean nothing this year, and he's like McFadden in that this time last year DMC picks had the exact same response as Wells pick - former first bust, injury risk, ya-da ya-da ya-da.

Agreed. I haven't post my RB values yet, but needless to say Wells is one of them...great upside for a relatively cheap price. That being said, Williams went earlier then I expected.

You have sparked some interest in Berrian - he is gonna be a great late round flier with McNabb in Minny and Rice gone. Who else is gonna be a deep threat?

Yeah, I was very, very happy to get Berrian and Moss in the last four rounds.

Prior to the draft I prepared a list of high risk/high reward WRs that I might be able to steal at the end of the draft and both Moss and Berrian were near the top of that list...very happy with that.

Not to keep dogging your team but why in the hell would you think these guys would be steals?

I have them projected for high ceilings and very low floors. IMHO it is the correct strategy in this format to take risk/reward guys at the end of the draft.

 

[pantherclub]

I would think that is the case for younger players, not 8 year wide outs that has never had a successful fantasy season or a retired wr.

that makes no sense to me but hey its your team.

I would have drafted more solid wide receivers early on and then loaded up on flyer running backs. It seems to me you have a higher chance of one of those hitting then Randy Moss or BB. That just makes no sense to me.

 

[LHUCKS]

I would think that is the case for younger players, not 8 year wide outs that has never had a successful fantasy season or a retired wr.

I would agree that I'm on an island when it comes to Randy Moss...not many people agree with me regarding his upside based on threads around here.As for Berrian, I would also agree not many people see the value there...his ADP is nearly non-existent. That being said, he is the undisputed starter with an improved QB situation. He's always been a deep threat. I see upside there. Remember that this is the 20th round...most people are going to drop their 20th round pick before the season is even half way over.

 

[footballman_696969]

lhucks do you mind posting the whole draft?

 

[LHUCKS]

A more detailed analysis of my WRs

Wide Receiver

8.08 - AJ Green - After skipping the position for the first seven rounds I wanted to go upside. I believe Green has double digit TD upside so this was an easy pick...he stuck out like a sore thumb when compared to the other WRs available. I felt lucky to get him.

9.05 - Malcom Floyd - This was probably a reach based on current ADP, but I've seen him rumored to land in high octane offenses so I rolled the dice. We shall see.

11.05 - BMW - I needed a solid WR here knowing that I would take a lot of high risk/high reward guys. Tarvaris Jackson is obviously the issue here, but I like Tarvaris to exceed expectations so BMW is higher on my list than others. This was an easy pick as I thought he slid too far.

12.08 - James Jones - This is a guy that needs injuries to become relevant in this format IMHO. I'm not thrilled with this pick even though he's listed as a starter in arguably the best offense.

13.05 - Hines Ward - Like BMW, just needed a safe starting WR. low risk, low reward here

14.08 - Danario Alexander - One of my favorite picks of the draft, this kid is exciting to watch and in a great position to blow up...a lot of the other drafters liked this pick, as do I. Great size/speed combo and Bradford likes him, let's hope McDaniels does to. He's currently running as the #1 WR. Very happy with this pick.

18.08 - Randy Moss - high risk/high reward pick, could be my #1 if he gets picked up in the right situation, could get dropped week on for this year's Brandon Lloyd. We shall see.

20.08 - Bernard Berrian - As noted earlier he's the starting WR in an offense with an improved QB situation. McNabbs very first throw as a Viking....50 yard TD bomb to Berrian...true story.

 

[LHUCKS]

lhucks do you mind posting the whole draft?

I've been asked by another member to not do that...not sure why.

 

[baconisgood]

Fake Punt:

(2) This is a 12 Team League starting 2 RB's and 2 FLEX positions. Barring injury, Benson, Bradshaw and Wells should outscore a lot, if not all, every single WR for the year. By having 5 starting RB's, you not only are taking this option away from other owners, but you are also posting a W almost every week at both FLEX positions. On top of that, you have what could be two top 5 RBs in Chris Johnson and MJD. Very solid.

Its a PPR league with 1.5 PPR for TEs. This isn't remotely true.

IMHO it is the correct strategy in this format to take risk/reward guys at the end of the draft.

The correct strategy at the end of the draft is dictated by the draft up to that point more than any thing else.

I have them projected for high ceilings and very low floors.

One of the biggest issues for your team is the likelihood that you start out 1-3 or worse while you figure out what WRs you want to play. In an 11 week season that isn't a good spot to be in and even when you have started getting a feel for what you have it could just be small sample noise and you end up starting Berrian after his 150 yards + 2TD start to the season only to see that he finishes up with 800/5 and you miss the bulk of his value. It happens every year for WR- last year Steve Smith (Car) started off with 5/75/1 and 3/66/1- and scored 0 TDs the rest of the year. With this strategy there is always a chance- and often a good chance- that you end up with 2 guys that put up WR 3-4 stats but by they spend to much time on your bench while you chase 1 game wonders.If you had taken S Moss instead of Well/Benson you could have plugged him in expecting something like the 70/900/3 that he got with Campbell as his starter in 2009 as a reasonable floor but with pretty good upside in a PPR league. Then you can play with that #2 spot and see if you strike gold without risking to much in those early games. Instead Beanie or Benson starts out the first few weeks on the bench doing nothing for your team- how many teams will have a 6th or 7th rounder riding their pine by design?

 

[buck naked]

A more detailed analysis of my WRs

Wide Receiver

8.08 - AJ Green - After skipping the position for the first seven rounds I wanted to go upside. I believe Green has double digit TD upside so this was an easy pick...he stuck out like a sore thumb when compared to the other WRs available. I felt lucky to get him.

Strategy point. If Jerome Simpson was available (he should have been), you should have drafted him as well. I like to draft 2 WR's from the same team when I don't know which will emerge. You hedge your bets that way, and hopefully get one guy for sure who will be the #1 WR on the team. It is more difficult with this pair, however, because Cincy is looking at a rookie QB, which is never a good thing. Plus, Shipley could steal some receptions and become decent also.

 

[LHUCKS]

The correct strategy at the end of the draft is dictated by the draft up to that point more than any thing else.

we'll agree to disagree here

One of the biggest issues for your team is the likelihood that you start out 1-3 or worse while you figure out what WRs you want to play.

I would take action on that and I haven't even looked to see who I play.

If you had taken S Moss instead of Well/Benson you could have plugged him in expecting something like the 70/900/3 that he got with Campbell as his starter in 2009 as a reasonable floor but with pretty good upside in a PPR league. Then you can play with that #2 spot and see if you strike gold without risking to much in those early games. Instead Beanie or Benson starts out the first few weeks on the bench doing nothing for your team- how many teams will have a 6th or 7th rounder riding their pine by design?

I hate Santana Moss this year. Hines Ward and BMW fill the role you just described IMHO.

 

[LHUCKS]

Strategy point. If Jerome Simpson was available (he should have been), you should have drafted him as well. I like to draft 2 WR's from the same team when I don't know which will emerge. You hedge your bets that way, and hopefully get one guy for sure who will be the #1 WR on the team. It is more difficult with this pair, however, because Cincy is looking at a rookie QB, which is never a good thing. Plus, Shipley could steal some receptions and become decent also.

yeah, thought about it as Jerome did slide a decent amount, but kept finding guys I'd rather have when he was on the board.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I would think that is the case for younger players, not 8 year wide outs that has never had a successful fantasy season or a retired wr.

I would agree that I'm on an island when it comes to Randy Moss...not many people agree with me regarding his upside based on threads around here.

As for Berrian, I would also agree not many people see the value there...his ADP is nearly non-existent. That being said, he is the undisputed starter with an improved QB situation. He's always been a deep threat. I see upside there. Remember that this is the 20th round...most people are going to drop their 20th round pick before the season is even half way over.

It's very early in camp, it's hard to say that definatively. Also the "deep threat" Berrian averaged 10 yards per catch last season.With all that said, I do agree at that point he has some upside and wouldn't be shocked if he reounds with McNabb under center and little competition, outside of Harvin, for targets.

 

[baconisgood]

The correct strategy at the end of the draft is dictated by the draft up to that point more than any thing else.

we'll agree to disagree here

One of the biggest issues for your team is the likelihood that you start out 1-3 or worse while you figure out what WRs you want to play.

I would take action on that and I haven't even looked to see who I play.

If you had taken S Moss instead of Well/Benson you could have plugged him in expecting something like the 70/900/3 that he got with Campbell as his starter in 2009 as a reasonable floor but with pretty good upside in a PPR league. Then you can play with that #2 spot and see if you strike gold without risking to much in those early games. Instead Beanie or Benson starts out the first few weeks on the bench doing nothing for your team- how many teams will have a 6th or 7th rounder riding their pine by design?

I hate Santana Moss this year. Hines Ward and BMW fill the role you just described IMHO.

Moss goes into this year as his teams #1 while Ward and BMW go in as #2s. Ward is 35 and saw his yards/game #s drop by 20% off his career average last year while BMW is getting a new QB, new offensive scheme and Rice + Zach Miller brought in on big contracts. Neither of those guys is a plug and play type this year.

 

[Sweetness_34]

The correct strategy at the end of the draft is dictated by the draft up to that point more than any thing else.

we'll agree to disagree here

One of the biggest issues for your team is the likelihood that you start out 1-3 or worse while you figure out what WRs you want to play.

I would take action on that and I haven't even looked to see who I play.

If you had taken S Moss instead of Well/Benson you could have plugged him in expecting something like the 70/900/3 that he got with Campbell as his starter in 2009 as a reasonable floor but with pretty good upside in a PPR league. Then you can play with that #2 spot and see if you strike gold without risking to much in those early games. Instead Beanie or Benson starts out the first few weeks on the bench doing nothing for your team- how many teams will have a 6th or 7th rounder riding their pine by design?

I hate Santana Moss this year. Hines Ward and BMW fill the role you just described IMHO.

That is your best bet IMO. Start Ward and BMW as your WRs. This way, you get the guaranteed 20 points from both of them to help keep you in every match up in the first month. AJ Green will take a while to get going given the rookie is learning a playbook and the fact that his QB will also most likely be Dalton. By the time the FF playoffs come around, that is when Green gives you the most upside since he will be settled in by then and have chemistry with the QB etc. Also in the playoffs you have to take a wing-it approach and swing for the fences to be the Champ instead of going for 3rd place by playng it safe. Randy Moss and Berrian are not going to help so do not even bother wasting your line up space with themOne question - when was Austin Collie drafted? IMO, Lance Moore, Austin Collie, Danny Amendola are the kind of WRs you should have tried to get once you decided to get no WR in the 1st 7 rounds. Also, when was Owen Daniels drafted? Since you can start 2 TEs and this is a 1.5 PPR for TE kind of league, Daniels would have been an awesome 2nd TE to pair up with Davis and start at Flex. Huge upside to Daniels (with much lower ADP) this year.

 

[LHUCKS]

this is the lineup I go against week one(as of now). I can easily take this team IMHO and this is one of the better teams. Charles may have a field day though.

Tony Romo DAL QB Sun 8:20 PM @ NYJ Jamaal Charles KAN RB Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF Peyton Hillis CLE RB Sun 1:00 PM vs CIN Jahvid Best DET RB Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM Dwayne Bowe KAN WR Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF Steve Johnson BUF WR Sun 1:00 PM @ KAN Brandon Pettigrew DET TE Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM Jared Cook TEN TE Sun 1:00 PM @ JAC Neil Rackers HOU K Sun 1:00 PM vs IND Pittsburgh Steelers PIT D/ST Sun 1:00 PM @ BAL

 

[pantherclub]

this is the lineup I go against week one(as of now). I can easily take this team IMHO and this is one of the better teams. Charles may have a field day though.

Tony Romo DAL QB Sun 8:20 PM @ NYJ Jamaal Charles KAN RB Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF Peyton Hillis CLE RB Sun 1:00 PM vs CIN Jahvid Best DET RB Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM Dwayne Bowe KAN WR Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF Steve Johnson BUF WR Sun 1:00 PM @ KAN Brandon Pettigrew DET TE Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM Jared Cook TEN TE Sun 1:00 PM @ JAC Neil Rackers HOU K Sun 1:00 PM vs IND Pittsburgh Steelers PIT D/ST Sun 1:00 PM @ BAL

Now thats a pretty solid team in that format.

 

[LHUCKS]

One question - when was Austin Collie drafted? IMO, Lance Moore, Austin Collie, Danny Amendola are the kind of WRs you should have tried to get once you decided to get no WR in the 1st 7 rounds. Also, when was Owen Daniels drafted? Since you can start 2 TEs and this is a 1.5 PPR for TE kind of league, Daniels would have been an awesome 2nd TE to pair up with Davis and start at Flex. Huge upside to Daniels (with much lower ADP) this year.

Collie - 5.08Moore - 7.06Amendola - 11.06

 

[LHUCKS]

this is the lineup I go against week one(as of now). I can easily take this team IMHO and this is one of the better teams. Charles may have a field day though.

Tony Romo DAL QB Sun 8:20 PM @ NYJ

Jamaal Charles KAN RB Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF

Peyton Hillis CLE RB Sun 1:00 PM vs CIN

Jahvid Best DET RB Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM

Dwayne Bowe KAN WR Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF

Steve Johnson BUF WR Sun 1:00 PM @ KAN

Brandon Pettigrew DET TE Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM

Jared Cook TEN TE Sun 1:00 PM @ JAC

Now thats a pretty solid team in that format.

that I expect to outscore at the bolded positions

 

[LHUCKS]

Randy Moss and Berrian are not going to help so do not even bother wasting your line up space with them

 

[THE HITTER]

this is the lineup I go against week one(as of now). I can easily take this team IMHO and this is one of the better teams. Charles may have a field day though.

Tony Romo DAL QB Sun 8:20 PM @ NYJ Jamaal Charles KAN RB Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF Peyton Hillis CLE RB Sun 1:00 PM vs CIN Jahvid Best DET RB Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM Dwayne Bowe KAN WR Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF Steve Johnson BUF WR Sun 1:00 PM @ KAN Brandon Pettigrew DET TE Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM Jared Cook TEN TE Sun 1:00 PM @ JAC Neil Rackers HOU K Sun 1:00 PM vs IND Pittsburgh Steelers PIT D/ST Sun 1:00 PM @ BAL

Really? You think this would be an easy win for you? Personally, I see...QB - You win, but only due to his opponentRB1 - You lose, especially if CJ holds outRB2 - Wash now, but you lose if MJD isn't 100%WR1 - You get killed hereWR2 - You get killed hereFlex1 - Best vs Bradshaw - I call wash hereFlex2 - You should win, but I think the 1.5 ppr for TEs make it a wash - Wells/Benson vs Pettigrew/CookTE - You win, but I think it'll be very closeK - WashDef - You lose - Pitt/Bal games are always low-scoring slug it out affairsSo I see 2 wins for you, 3 losses, and 4 washes (I predict 3 of those to go against you though)Guess I'm not seeing an easy win here at all. But good luck with it. Thanks for posting everything.

 

[THE HITTER]

this is the lineup I go against week one(as of now). I can easily take this team IMHO and this is one of the better teams. Charles may have a field day though.

Tony Romo DAL QB Sun 8:20 PM @ NYJ

Jamaal Charles KAN RB Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF

Peyton Hillis CLE RB Sun 1:00 PM vs CIN

Jahvid Best DET RB Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM

Dwayne Bowe KAN WR Sun 1:00 PM vs BUF

Steve Johnson BUF WR Sun 1:00 PM @ KAN

Brandon Pettigrew DET TE Sun 1:00 PM @ TAM

Jared Cook TEN TE Sun 1:00 PM @ JAC

Now thats a pretty solid team in that format.

that I expect to outscore at the bolded positions

Curious why you think you'll outscore his RBs? CJ will be keyed on as Hass/ WRs still aren't game-ready yet, MJD has said himself he's not 100%, and Bradshaw will be sharing the ball more than Best (Leshore won't be up to speed quite yet).

 

[LHUCKS]

QB - You win, but only due to his opponent

So you have Romo projected higher than Rivers?

RB1 - You lose, especially if CJ holds out

Agreed, it's a nice matchup for Charles...I have CJ projected higher than Charles on the year.

RB2 - Wash now, but you lose if MJD isn't 100%

Not eve close, I have both MJD and Bradshaw ahead of Hillis

WR1 - You get killed here

Agreed

WR2 - You get killed here

Really? Is Steve Johnson a shoe in on the road? I'm the underdog, but let's no concede "getting killed"

Flex1 - Best vs Bradshaw - I call wash here

Strongly disagree, you're on crack

Flex2 - You should win, but I think the 1.5 ppr for TEs make it a wash - Wells/Benson vs Pettigrew/Cook

strongly disagree again, Wells is going to surprise a lot of people this year

TE - You win, but I think it'll be very close

I have Davis firmly ahead of Pettigrew.So I guess we'll have agree to disagree. I have it at 5-3. Kicker/D Push

 

[LHUCKS]

Curious why you think you'll outscore his RBs? CJ will be keyed on as Hass/ WRs still aren't game-ready yet, MJD has said himself he's not 100%.

Even without MJD I have my RBs projected ahead of his on the season. Week one is a good matchup for charles so there's a good chance he'll catch me there.

Bradshaw will be sharing the ball more than Best (Leshore won't be up to speed quite yet).

Strongly disagree with this statement.

 

[LHUCKS]

Floyd resigns with Chargers!

 

[nysportsfan]

For me it comes down to the fact that I don't like the RBs more than I dislike the WRs. But you're right, WR hits, you're more than fine. Good luck, buddy.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

No offense Lhucks but thats a horrible team. The strategy of going rb-rb is prehistoric and ancient at best. Its a passing game now along with backfield by committee.

Got to take issue with these two statements. It is not a horrible team. Hucks will be competitive, but his weakness at WR will ultimately bite him.I agree that it is a passing league, making bell cow RBs a rare commodity. So it can be just as strongly argued that it makes 300 touch RBs MORE valuable. And Hucks appears to have 3.Hicks, I would love to see a list of the WRs that were available when you selected MJD.Then another list when you selected Benson / Wells.Thanks for sharing.

 

[butcher boy]

It's not a "horrible" team, but someone who has a posting style of confidence bordering on condescension is going to have their team scrutinized. When you have a reputation/schtick of having an attitude that your projections are gospel and other people's opinions are erroneous, you'd better be able to back that kind of talk up with a perfect draft, or you're going to hear about it.

 

[LHUCKS]

It's not a "horrible" team, but someone who has a posting style of confidence bordering on condescension is going to have their team scrutinized. When you have a reputation/schtick of having an attitude that your projections are gospel and other people's opinions are erroneous, you'd better be able to back that kind of talk up with a perfect draft, or you're going to hear about it.

I have no problem with the criticism regardless of how off it may be...I wouldn't have started this thread if I did.

 

[LHUCKS]

Hicks, I would love to see a list of the WRs that were available when you selected MJD.

AustinJenningsWallaceV-Jax

Then another list when you selected Benson / Wells.

here were the next five WRs that went off the board after BensonLance MooreJulio JonesJohnny KnoxSantana MossMike Sims Walker

 

[5Rings]

I like your team, Lhucks.

The last few years have been easy to snag WRs while the masses went RB-RB-RB...now I think the trend is reversed (or so I've seen in my drafts so far this year). WRs are being overdrafted, leaving tons of RB value.

I went RB-RB-RB this year for the first time since the 90s.

Thanks for posting, good luck.

 

[Assani Fisher]

I do my best in higher stakes sit and go poker tournies by a longshot than I do in mid range games.

Imo this is silly nonsense that is almost assuredly based upon too small of a sample size.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Can anyone play in these high stakes games? What do you need to do? Just register and pick a game with a stake you like (like you did with $350)? Also, are they good at paying you back and not running away with your money? How do the playoffs go? How much is payout and how is it distributed? Is the draft online? How is this site better or worse say compared to WCOFF satellite games?

I might be interested in playing a higher stake league this year. But wanted to check from someone who seems to do it regularly....

 

[Captain Hook]

Can anyone play in these high stakes games? What do you need to do? Just register and pick a game with a stake you like (like you did with $350)? Also, are they good at paying you back and not running away with your money? How do the playoffs go? How much is payout and how is it distributed? Is the draft online? How is this site better or worse say compared to WCOFF satellite games?I might be interested in playing a higher stake league this year. But wanted to check from someone who seems to do it regularly....

Seems like a lot of ridiculous questions considering the event he is talking about.....FBGPC = Football Guys Players Championship

 

[De Novo]

I've always believed that WR was the least important position and that if the rest of your team is stacked, you can make a run at it. I agree that Benson was the better pick over the likes of Lance Moore (post-Sproles signing), Johnny Knox (post-Roy signing), MSW, etc.

With that said, that might be the worst WR corps I've ever seen and I too have waited until the 8th round to draft a WR before. You could certainly win the league, but you're going to need to hit on 1 of them and make the right lineup choice at WR2 a lot of weeks.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Liked your draft, not sure why you went Benson there, not because I don't like Benson but you desperately needed a Wr after a strong start.

Liked the Qb picks, solid draft, just a little weak at WR which you know.

 

[GridironMenace]

As for Berrian, I would also agree not many people see the value there...his ADP is nearly non-existent. That being said, he is the undisputed starter with an improved QB situation. He's always been a deep threat. I see upside there. Remember that this is the 20th round...most people are going to drop their 20th round pick before the season is even half way over.

Yes, we all know it was the 20th round. You see, the difference is that most teams will drop their 20th round selection, you will be starting yours. That is why your team doesn't have a shot.

 

[LHUCKS]

Liked your draft, not sure why you went Benson there, not because I don't like Benson but you desperately needed a Wr after a strong start.

I posted the WRs that were available, which of those WRs would you have chosen over Benson.

 

[Tau837]

Hicks, I would love to see a list of the WRs that were available when you selected MJD.

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Then another list when you selected Benson / Wells.

here were the next five WRs that went off the board after BensonLance MooreJulio JonesJohnny KnoxSantana MossMike Sims Walker

Almost all of those WRs would have been better picks than Benson (or Wells), given the makeup of your team up to that point. (It is PPR, hello...)

 

[LHUCKS]

Almost all of those WRs would have been better picks than Benson (or Wells), given the makeup of your team up to that point. (It is PPR, hello...)

I agree on the MJD WRs, but not on the Benson/Wells WRs...I got the exact same value at WR a few rounds later...I didn't lose anything at WR by waiting at that point.We shall see, I seeem to like my WRs more than everybody else.My perfect draft probably would have been to go WR instead of Rivers and/or Bradshaw/MJD.As it stands I think I will be among the leading scorers in the league.

 

[ffrookie]

The big difference in my eyes is that these guys escrow all of the money so no worries like with some other leagues in them taking the money.

Can anyone play in these high stakes games? What do you need to do? Just register and pick a game with a stake you like (like you did with $350)? Also, are they good at paying you back and not running away with your money? How do the playoffs go? How much is payout and how is it distributed? Is the draft online? How is this site better or worse say compared to WCOFF satellite games?I might be interested in playing a higher stake league this year. But wanted to check from someone who seems to do it regularly....

 

[Saint]

To be honest, Lhucks, I can't even tell how competitive your team is without seeing the other teams. To be posting a draft commentary about your picks without showing the draft board doesn't really help overly much in planning for a future draft. Any chance you can email the guy that asked to keep the draft hidden and ask to post if you scrub the names or something? That would be helpful.

 

[LHUCKS]

To be honest, Lhucks, I can't even tell how competitive your team is without seeing the other teams.

good point...I'll post shortly