DRAGGIN'S 2008 NFL MOCK DRAFT (1 Viewer)

[kremenull]

Carolina doesn't take a QB in the first round and probably not in the first 4 rounds. Too many holes to fill. Delhomme is coming along in his rehab and Matt Moore was efficient when given the reins. Carolina also has Brett Basanez who they like. Take into consideration as well that Fox will be on the hot seat after two 7-9 seasons. He can't afford to make a first round pick that will be sitting on the bench not making an impact. If Carolina doesn't trade down, they'll hope that Kenny Phillips falls to them or take an OT (both their RT and LT are free agents and most likely only one will be resigned). Carolina may look for another low round QB or possibly pick up a veteran free agent.

I agree too, but could also look at DE with the loss of Rucker.

Very possible, but I think they'll take a look at what Charles Johnson (3rd round pick) and Stanley McClover can do as Ruckers replacement. Still wouldn't stop them from drafting Campbell or Ghoulston if they are there as we still aren't sure if Peppers is going to return to form (Was it the mono that put him down last year or has the fire left?). There is talk that Pep wants 60M (warning - this is information from someone who claims to know a Panther, however his information has been good so far so take it with a grain of salt) to resign and I'm not sure Carolina wants to pay that if he can't perform as he did in the past. They may also take a look at DE in free agency (Justin Smith and Jared Allen).

Yeah, you guys are probably right about the Carolina selection. Too many needs out there for them to select any of these QBs, who don't appear to be anything special from much of the early scouting reports. And if Fox is truly their guy and has a voice in the selection, then he probably opts for a defender (LB or DE) or a play-making WR in the 1st. It also might not be a bad idea to look to trade down for more selections.

 

[BassNBrew]

Carolina doesn't take a QB in the first round and probably not in the first 4 rounds. Too many holes to fill. Delhomme is coming along in his rehab and Matt Moore was efficient when given the reins. Carolina also has Brett Basanez who they like. Take into consideration as well that Fox will be on the hot seat after two 7-9 seasons. He can't afford to make a first round pick that will be sitting on the bench not making an impact. If Carolina doesn't trade down, they'll hope that Kenny Phillips falls to them or take an OT (both their RT and LT are free agents and most likely only one will be resigned). Carolina may look for another low round QB or possibly pick up a veteran free agent.

I agree too, but could also look at DE with the loss of Rucker.

Very possible, but I think they'll take a look at what Charles Johnson (3rd round pick) and Stanley McClover can do as Ruckers replacement. Still wouldn't stop them from drafting Campbell or Ghoulston if they are there as we still aren't sure if Peppers is going to return to form (Was it the mono that put him down last year or has the fire left?). There is talk that Pep wants 60M (warning - this is information from someone who claims to know a Panther, however his information has been good so far so take it with a grain of salt) to resign and I'm not sure Carolina wants to pay that if he can't perform as he did in the past. They may also take a look at DE in free agency (Justin Smith and Jared Allen).

Yeah, you guys are probably right about the Carolina selection. Too many needs out there for them to select any of these QBs, who don't appear to be anything special from much of the early scouting reports. And if Fox is truly their guy and has a voice in the selection, then he probably opts for a defender (LB or DE) or a play-making WR in the 1st. It also might not be a bad idea to look to trade down for more selections.

The GM Hurney is on the hotseat too. Not a year for projects. Their fate rests on Delhomme returning, developing a running game, and finding a pass rush.

 

[Incogneto]

25. Seattle Seahawks Pat Sims DT 6’4” 315 AuburnListen up Seahawks, standing pat will not land you a marquee feature-back in this draft. However, they do alright in Rd 2 below…..wink-wink…..The addition of a large body in the middle of the defense will provide depth and look for Sims to immediately get into the rotation and help stop opposing teams’ run game. Giving up over 200 yards on the ground in a playoff game is cause for some needed size to be brought in up front.

NO! NO NO NO NO NO!!!!Seattle has WAY more pressing needs than a DT, especially with Brenard and Tapp starting, and Tubbs and Mebane as reserves. NO!Seattle looks for OL (x2), TE and RB help in this draft.

 

[cstu]

1. Miami Dolphins Chris Long DE 6’4” 280 VirginiaChris Long is one of the surest things in this year’s draft. Bringing a non-stop motor and top pedigree (Howie Long’s son), he is an ideal fit in the new 3-4 scheme that will be implemented by the Dolphins which is the determining factor for why he gets the nod over Dorsey, who is more suited for a 4-3. But make no mistake, Long is a Parcells type of player and will be a fixture on the defense for the next decade Compares favorably to his father, of course, but also more recent guys like A.Kampman, J.Anderson, and A.Carriker.

280 is a little light for a 3-4 DE. I think he can get the job done but Glenn Dorsey would be a beast at 3-4 DE.

Yes, 280 may not be ideal but it is good enough if you have the other intangibles. The overriding factor is that this guy just knows how to play football and will be able to outwork the 300+ lb o-linemen that go up against him. Howie Long did very well in both the 3-4 or 4-3, so to great football players, it doesn't matter what scheme you put them in. Not saying the newbie Long is already great, but he has the motor, instincts, and tenacity to become at least very good.

I agree, but I think it's way to risky to take an undersized 3-4 DE with the #1 overall pick. It's a position that 3-4 teams can afford to draft later and still get a good player. The only 1st round 3-4 DE picks I can think of are Ty Warren (mid 1st) and Luis Castillo (late 1st).

You guys realize Chris Long will likely put on 15-20 lbs of muscle after going to the NFL right? Almost every college lineman on both sides of the ball does so.

The guys I mentioned (Warren and Castillo) stayed near the weight they were drafted at. It's tough to know how gaining 20 lbs. would affect Chris Long's effectiveness.

 

[Cookiemonster]

First of all, nice job... as others have pointed out, it is good to see some projections that aren't the same as the rest. Now on to my local team:

56. Pittsburgh Steelers Thomas DeCoud S 6’2” 205 California

The Steelers will have many holes to fill via the draft this year. Too many to be taking a safety in the second round. I wouldn't be shocked if they go OL-OL or some combination of OL-DL-LB in the first 2 rounds. That being said, they have gone against the grain in the past, so who knows?

Yeah. W/ Shuening (SP?) still on the board, he'd be the pick.

 

[Mapmaker]

Where's Indy in all this .... I don't see a first or second round pick in this mock ... what am I missing???

 

[BelichicksRevenge]

I like your calls on the quarterbacks. I still think this is a weak QB class. Personally I would'nt be surprised if a guy like Chad Henne ends up being a better NFL qb than Matt Ryan. And if I was a GM I would try to snatch him up in the third round as opposed to using a first rounder on Ryan.

 

[RaiderBones]

Where's Indy in all this .... I don't see a first or second round pick in this mock ... what am I missing???

Indy has no first round pick, it was traded to 49ers. It is showing in the mock that Indy made a selection in the 2nd round with the 61st pick.

 

[mcintyre1]

1. Miami Dolphins Chris Long DE 6’4” 280 VirginiaChris Long is one of the surest things in this year’s draft. Bringing a non-stop motor and top pedigree (Howie Long’s son), he is an ideal fit in the new 3-4 scheme that will be implemented by the Dolphins which is the determining factor for why he gets the nod over Dorsey, who is more suited for a 4-3. But make no mistake, Long is a Parcells type of player and will be a fixture on the defense for the next decade Compares favorably to his father, of course, but also more recent guys like A.Kampman, J.Anderson, and A.Carriker.

280 is a little light for a 3-4 DE. I think he can get the job done but Glenn Dorsey would be a beast at 3-4 DE.

Yes, 280 may not be ideal but it is good enough if you have the other intangibles. The overriding factor is that this guy just knows how to play football and will be able to outwork the 300+ lb o-linemen that go up against him. Howie Long did very well in both the 3-4 or 4-3, so to great football players, it doesn't matter what scheme you put them in. Not saying the newbie Long is already great, but he has the motor, instincts, and tenacity to become at least very good.

I agree, but I think it's way to risky to take an undersized 3-4 DE with the #1 overall pick. It's a position that 3-4 teams can afford to draft later and still get a good player. The only 1st round 3-4 DE picks I can think of are Ty Warren (mid 1st) and Luis Castillo (late 1st).

You guys realize Chris Long will likely put on 15-20 lbs of muscle after going to the NFL right? Almost every college lineman on both sides of the ball does so.

The guys I mentioned (Warren and Castillo) stayed near the weight they were drafted at. It's tough to know how gaining 20 lbs. would affect Chris Long's effectiveness.

Another prototype 3-4 DE that (would have) gone in the 1st is Adam Carriker last year. But for some reason the Rams decided to move him to NT. Umm, OK Rams.