Drew Stanton breaking news...UPDATED 8/1 (1 Viewer)

[Anthony Borbely]

I just heard on local radio that Drew Stanton is going to have arthroscopic surgery on his knee, and they speculated that he will miss 2-4 weeks. They stated that Millen said it was to clean up something from a previous injury.

They do not believe it is anything serious.

No link yet.

 

[amnesiac]

why wait till the start of camp?

seems kind of strange to me.

 

[sholditch]

awesome. my slow dynasty draft isn't even over and already my picks are falling apart on me

 

[Anthony Borbely]

why wait till the start of camp? seems kind of strange to me.

Because he didn't have any problems before now. His knee swelled Saturday, and they found the problems when they did the MRI.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

awesome. my slow dynasty draft isn't even over and already my picks are falling apart on me

I don't think this will negatively affect his dynasty value.

 

[sholditch]

i know just being stupid

 

[thaas]

Do any of you guys have a link to this yet?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Link to Stanton surgery update

QB Stanton needs surgery, will be out at least a month

July 30, 2007

By GEORGE SIPPLE

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Lions president Matt Millen said this afternoon that rookie quarterback Drew Stanton will have his knee scoped to clean out cartilage. Stanton, the Lions' second-round pick, likely will be out at least a month.

Stanton tweaked his right knee Saturday and missed both practice sessions Sunday and Monday in Allen Park.

After Monday’s morning practice -- but before the results of an MRI exam were known -- Stanton said he hoped he would not need surgery.

“I’m hoping not, but we’ll see,” Stanton said. “It’s gone down significantly, the swelling has. It’s almost back to normal. I just have to kind of wait and see.”

Millen isn’t sure how long Stanton will be out.

“Keep him on the active roster and see where it goes,” Millen said. “How long it takes and how long it takes to rehab. Do it right. The knee is structurally sound. That’s not a big deal. Just a little tweak.”

Stanton tore ligaments in his right knee covering a punt against Nebraska during the Alamo Bowl at Michigan State in 2003.

But Millen said the knee was fine coming out of college and went through off-season workouts without a problem.

“When he set the one time, it tweaked odd,” Millen said. “What he had in college is not even close.”

Millen said the procedure would be done as quickly as possible.

“It’s unfortunate for the time, but it happens,” Millen said.

 

[BroadwayG]

awesome. my slow dynasty draft isn't even over and already my picks are falling apart on me

I don't think this will negatively affect his dynasty value.

Yeah, if you were counting on him as your QB1 this year, you've got deeper problems.

 

[redman]

awesome. my slow dynasty draft isn't even over and already my picks are falling apart on me

I don't think this will negatively affect his dynasty value.

Yeah, if you were counting on him as your QB1 this year, you've got deeper problems.

Yep, like the fact that Wapner started around 9 minutes ago.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Kowalski's take on the Stanton situation

Blog: Stanton's injury puts Lions in difficult position

by Tom Kowalski

Monday July 30, 2007, 5:53 PM

Drew Stanton's injury couldn't have come at a worse time.

Stanton, the Lions rookie quarterback, will undergo arthroscopic surgery on his right knee and is expected to miss about a month. The problem is that these next four weeks are the most crucial time for Stanton's early development because this is where he gets a chance to learn and improve. Once the team starts preparing for the regular season, practice reps go to the starters and Stanton goes on the backburner for the rest of the year.

The other issue is that, because Stanton will return healthy for the start of the regular season, the Lions can't "hide'' him on the injured reserve list. By league rule, a player can't be placed on IR unless he has an injury that would sideline him for at least six weeks.

That means Stanton will come back healthy enough to play, but not prepared enough to contribute in any meaningful way. Now, in reality, the No. 3 quarterback spot isn't usually a big issue because they're never active during the game so it doesn't really cost you a roster spot. But there's also a reason teams have a No. 3 quarterback on the roster. If the Lions ever get down to using their backup -- whether it's Dan Orlovsky or J.T. O'Sullivan -- head coach Rod Marinelli is going to get very nervous. If something happens to the backup, Marinelli will be forced to use a rookie who doesn't know the offense, is rusty in his timing and hasn't had a meaningful snap since July 29.

 

[sholditch]

awesome. my slow dynasty draft isn't even over and already my picks are falling apart on me

I don't think this will negatively affect his dynasty value.

Yeah, if you were counting on him as your QB1 this year, you've got deeper problems.

if i was doing that...cmon, you actually thought I was or just had to post something so you posted this?

 

[Tom Servo]

awesome. my slow dynasty draft isn't even over and already my picks are falling apart on me

I don't think this will negatively affect his dynasty value.

Yeah, if you were counting on him as your QB1 this year, you've got deeper problems.

if i was doing that...cmon, you actually thought I was or just had to post something so you posted this?

I think his sarcasm meter is broken...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Out a month, is a rookie...chances of him replacing Kitna at any point in the season other than an injury...ZERO!

I won't be surprised if Aaron brooks isn't signed in the next few days just so they have some insurance. What could be worse for a rookie QB than missing a huge chunk of training camp and a few preseason games?

And even into next season I think the likelihood he takes over at QB s very very low. He isn't even going to get much of a chance to show anything in the preseason now.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Kowalski's take on the Stanton situation

Blog: Stanton's injury puts Lions in difficult position

by Tom Kowalski

Monday July 30, 2007, 5:53 PM

Drew Stanton's injury couldn't have come at a worse time.

Stanton, the Lions rookie quarterback, will undergo arthroscopic surgery on his right knee and is expected to miss about a month. The problem is that these next four weeks are the most crucial time for Stanton's early development because this is where he gets a chance to learn and improve. Once the team starts preparing for the regular season, practice reps go to the starters and Stanton goes on the backburner for the rest of the year.

The other issue is that, because Stanton will return healthy for the start of the regular season, the Lions can't "hide'' him on the injured reserve list. By league rule, a player can't be placed on IR unless he has an injury that would sideline him for at least six weeks.

That means Stanton will come back healthy enough to play, but not prepared enough to contribute in any meaningful way. Now, in reality, the No. 3 quarterback spot isn't usually a big issue because they're never active during the game so it doesn't really cost you a roster spot. But there's also a reason teams have a No. 3 quarterback on the roster. If the Lions ever get down to using their backup -- whether it's Dan Orlovsky or J.T. O'Sullivan -- head coach Rod Marinelli is going to get very nervous. If something happens to the backup, Marinelli will be forced to use a rookie who doesn't know the offense, is rusty in his timing and hasn't had a meaningful snap since July 29.

Stanton is now a good 2-3 full seasons from sniffing the field in a regular season game. He is so far behind now. In a dynasty league he is simply going to eat up space on your bench...if you can afford it, great, but if you did a start up dynasty this week I would think he would be going uber late in the draft if at all.

 

[Hobbes]

It sounds like he is just getting some cartilage out not repaired...the repair would keep him off his feet for a couple of months. I wonder how much cartilage he is getting out...I had 30% taken off of one side of my knee and I was walking the next day, stitches out after a week, and I was jogging after about 10 days...The bigger picture here is how much cartilage is coming out. The more he has removed the higher the probability of early arthritis in the knee...especially for a football player.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Out a month, is a rookie...chances of him replacing Kitna at any point in the season other than an injury...ZERO!I won't be surprised if Aaron brooks isn't signed in the next few days just so they have some insurance. What could be worse for a rookie QB than missing a huge chunk of training camp and a few preseason games? And even into next season I think the likelihood he takes over at QB s very very low. He isn't even going to get much of a chance to show anything in the preseason now.

There was very little chance of him playing this year before the injury, so there is no change in the short term from before.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Out a month, is a rookie...chances of him replacing Kitna at any point in the season other than an injury...ZERO!I won't be surprised if Aaron brooks isn't signed in the next few days just so they have some insurance. What could be worse for a rookie QB than missing a huge chunk of training camp and a few preseason games? And even into next season I think the likelihood he takes over at QB s very very low. He isn't even going to get much of a chance to show anything in the preseason now.

what about C-Pep as a backup?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Martz made good with QBs like Ryan Fitzpatrick when he was with the Rams and he probably can do the same with Orlovsky. I doubt they will pick up anyone of significance, and I think the chance of Culpepper coming here is zero.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Stanton update

Stanton will have knee surgery; Johnson not close to signing

Monday, July 30, 2007

By Tom Kowalski

ALLEN PARK -- Now the question is, which Detroit Lions rookie will be back in action first: wide receiver Calvin Johnson or quarterback Drew Stanton?

Johnson, the team's first-round draft pick, is holding out, with a completed contract nowhere in sight. Stanton, a second-round draft choice, is expected to miss about a month because he'll have arthroscopic surgery on his right knee soon.

Stanton injured his knee while dropping back in the pocket during a workout on Saturday. He was held out of practices on Sunday and then had an MRI test done on Monday.

"They're going to scope him, go in and clean it up, clean up the cartilage,'' Lions president Matt Millen said. "He'll be on the active roster and we'll see where it goes and how long it takes to rehab. The knee is structurally sound; it's not a big deal. It's just a tweak.''

Stanton sustained torn ligaments in the same knee in 2003 when covering a punt on special teams for Michigan State, but Millen said the two incidents aren't related.

"The good news is that it's nothing to do with the old injury,'' Millen said. "It just happens to be the same knee, but what he had in college isn't even close. That's all structurally sound. It's no different than anybody else.''

Stanton is expected to miss all four preseason games but Millen said Stanton would remain on the active roster.

Of note is Millen saying that Stanton will remain on the active roster.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Out a month, is a rookie...chances of him replacing Kitna at any point in the season other than an injury...ZERO!I won't be surprised if Aaron brooks isn't signed in the next few days just so they have some insurance. What could be worse for a rookie QB than missing a huge chunk of training camp and a few preseason games? And even into next season I think the likelihood he takes over at QB s very very low. He isn't even going to get much of a chance to show anything in the preseason now.

There was very little chance of him playing this year before the injury, so there is no change in the short term from before.

AB, I disagree. SOme people felt once the Lions were out of the playoff chase in week 4 or 5 that he might play the 2nd half of the season...chances now are ZERO!

 

[Penguin]

Out a month, is a rookie...chances of him replacing Kitna at any point in the season other than an injury...ZERO!I won't be surprised if Aaron brooks isn't signed in the next few days just so they have some insurance. What could be worse for a rookie QB than missing a huge chunk of training camp and a few preseason games? And even into next season I think the likelihood he takes over at QB s very very low. He isn't even going to get much of a chance to show anything in the preseason now.

There was very little chance of him playing this year before the injury, so there is no change in the short term from before.

AB, I disagree. SOme people felt once the Lions were out of the playoff chase in week 4 or 5 that he might play the 2nd half of the season...chances now are ZERO!

MOP, I agree that some people felt that way, I myself believed that Kitna was locked in for the entire 2007 season and had at least a 50/50 shot of being the 2008 opening day starter. I could see the hand over to Stanton in late November/early December 2008 if the Lions were eliminated but I never thought for a minute that Stanton would start a single game in '07.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Out a month, is a rookie...chances of him replacing Kitna at any point in the season other than an injury...ZERO!I won't be surprised if Aaron brooks isn't signed in the next few days just so they have some insurance. What could be worse for a rookie QB than missing a huge chunk of training camp and a few preseason games? And even into next season I think the likelihood he takes over at QB s very very low. He isn't even going to get much of a chance to show anything in the preseason now.

There was very little chance of him playing this year before the injury, so there is no change in the short term from before.

AB, I disagree. SOme people felt once the Lions were out of the playoff chase in week 4 or 5 that he might play the 2nd half of the season...chances now are ZERO!

MoP, I respectfully disagree with you for the following reasons:The feeling around here from the beat writers and coaches was that they wanted Stanton to sit this year. I think people are really underestimating how much Marinelli and Martz love Kitna. They love his leadership, and also believe he played very well last year. There is very little chance of Kitna being benched this year for any reason with the exception of an injury. Some believe Kitna will not only play all of this year, but also 2008. People are looking too much into his stats from last year, namely interceptions, and saying he did not play well. But when you consider he had very little help last year, a poor and injured line, no RB after KJ went down, only 2 WRs, he really played a lot better than people think. Marinelli is all about making players earn their way on the field, and unless Kitna plays really bad, there was really no chance before the injury of Stanton getting any significant time this year. I have not seen one Lions official or local beat writer suggest that Stanton would have played this year for any other reason other than injury and I tend to believe that. I personally think the only people who thought Stanton would play are people who judge Kitna only by his stats, and not by how he really played last year, and also not placing any weight on how Marinelli and Martz love his leadership abilities...and also how he is helping to change the losing culture and attitude around here. That is more important than his stats to the coaches.

 

[redman]

This changes nothing as a practical matter. Stanton will make up the lost ground next offseason, and nobody in their right mind was relying upon him this year anyway. This hurts the Lions only to the extent that they wanted him to be the primary backup QB to Kitna, but many rookies are 3rd stringers anyway.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Out a month, is a rookie...chances of him replacing Kitna at any point in the season other than an injury...ZERO!I won't be surprised if Aaron brooks isn't signed in the next few days just so they have some insurance. What could be worse for a rookie QB than missing a huge chunk of training camp and a few preseason games? And even into next season I think the likelihood he takes over at QB s very very low. He isn't even going to get much of a chance to show anything in the preseason now.

There was very little chance of him playing this year before the injury, so there is no change in the short term from before.

AB, I disagree. SOme people felt once the Lions were out of the playoff chase in week 4 or 5 that he might play the 2nd half of the season...chances now are ZERO!

MoP, I respectfully disagree with you for the following reasons:The feeling around here from the beat writers and coaches was that they wanted Stanton to sit this year. I think people are really underestimating how much Marinelli and Martz love Kitna. They love his leadership, and also believe he played very well last year. There is very little chance of Kitna being benched this year for any reason with the exception of an injury. Some believe Kitna will not only play all of this year, but also 2008. People are looking too much into his stats from last year, namely interceptions, and saying he did not play well. But when you consider he had very little help last year, a poor and injured line, no RB after KJ went down, only 2 WRs, he really played a lot better than people think. Marinelli is all about making players earn their way on the field, and unless Kitna plays really bad, there was really no chance before the injury of Stanton getting any significant time this year. I have not seen one Lions official or local beat writer suggest that Stanton would have played this year for any other reason other than injury and I tend to believe that. I personally think the only people who thought Stanton would play are people who judge Kitna only by his stats, and not by how he really played last year, and also not placing any weight on how Marinelli and Martz love his leadership abilities...and also how he is helping to change the losing culture and attitude around here. That is more important than his stats to the coaches.

Well now we agree. BTW...congrads on making staff, just another FBG staff member in the H/A Leagues we have to deal with now. Wannabee made it too...we should rename the HyperActive league into the FBG Farm System or something. At least get a AAA status for all of this. Good luck.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Out a month, is a rookie...chances of him replacing Kitna at any point in the season other than an injury...ZERO!I won't be surprised if Aaron brooks isn't signed in the next few days just so they have some insurance. What could be worse for a rookie QB than missing a huge chunk of training camp and a few preseason games? And even into next season I think the likelihood he takes over at QB s very very low. He isn't even going to get much of a chance to show anything in the preseason now.

There was very little chance of him playing this year before the injury, so there is no change in the short term from before.

AB, I disagree. SOme people felt once the Lions were out of the playoff chase in week 4 or 5 that he might play the 2nd half of the season...chances now are ZERO!

MoP, I respectfully disagree with you for the following reasons:The feeling around here from the beat writers and coaches was that they wanted Stanton to sit this year. I think people are really underestimating how much Marinelli and Martz love Kitna. They love his leadership, and also believe he played very well last year. There is very little chance of Kitna being benched this year for any reason with the exception of an injury. Some believe Kitna will not only play all of this year, but also 2008. People are looking too much into his stats from last year, namely interceptions, and saying he did not play well. But when you consider he had very little help last year, a poor and injured line, no RB after KJ went down, only 2 WRs, he really played a lot better than people think. Marinelli is all about making players earn their way on the field, and unless Kitna plays really bad, there was really no chance before the injury of Stanton getting any significant time this year. I have not seen one Lions official or local beat writer suggest that Stanton would have played this year for any other reason other than injury and I tend to believe that. I personally think the only people who thought Stanton would play are people who judge Kitna only by his stats, and not by how he really played last year, and also not placing any weight on how Marinelli and Martz love his leadership abilities...and also how he is helping to change the losing culture and attitude around here. That is more important than his stats to the coaches.

Well now we agree. BTW...congrads on making staff, just another FBG staff member in the H/A Leagues we have to deal with now. Wannabee made it too...we should rename the HyperActive league into the FBG Farm System or something. At least get a AAA status for all of this. Good luck.

Thank you.

 

[Da Guru]

I just heard on local radio that Drew Stanton is going to have arthroscopic surgery on his knee, and they speculated that he will miss 2-4 weeks. They stated that Millen said it was to clean up something from a previous injury. They do not believe it is anything serious. No link yet.

I did not like the Stanton pick for this very reason. The guy is never 100%!

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Stanton out 2-4 weeks per Millen

Lions: Notebook

Stanton expected back in 2-4 weeks

Surgery might cost third-string quarterback a chance to compete for backup job, though.

Terry Foster / The Detroit News

ALLEN PARK -- Lions rookie quarterback Drew Stanton is expected to return to the practice field before the regular season begins after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery Tuesday on his right knee. Lions president Matt Millen said Stanton could return in 2-to-4 weeks after a short procedure in which cartilage was shaved and removed.

The surgery could cost Stanton a shot at competing for the backup job behind Jon Kitna. Free-agent pickup J.T.O'Sullivan and Dan Orlovsky are competing for the backup job and the loser could be shipped out of town. The Lions are expected to keep Stanton because he was their top second-round pick in the 2007 draft.

Stanton injured his right knee during a non-contact drill while dropping back to pass. The knee swelled up over the weekend and Stanton had it checked out. He said later the swelling had subsided and was awaiting word as to when he could return to the practice field. But that all changed Monday afternoon when Stanton experienced more discomfort and was taken in for surgery.

It's the same knee he injured with Michigan State on special teams. However, doctors said the injuries are unrelated.

Johnson absent

The Lions might be without rookie wide receiver Calvin Johnson for a few more days as contract negotiations drag on. Johnson, the No. 2 pick in the draft, has missed four days of training camp. However, a base was set when the Cleveland Browns signed left tackle Joe Thomas (the No. 3 pick) for $42 million over five years with a $23 million signing bonus.

Helping out

Tight end Alan Ricard might not make the roster, but he gives the Lions another body to pound on during practice following the retirement of Eric Beverly . Ricard, 30, is a former Baltimore Raven. Tuesday was his second day of training camp.

Barry excited

It's called the Joe Barry run and jump. Defensive players are accustomed to their defensive coordinator running over and giving chest and hip bumps after a good play. Lions coach Rod Marinelli likes seeing it, too, although he said one of his assistants needed treatment after being overzealous.

"He is all up in the mix," linebacker Boss Bailey said. "He is very energetic about it and he is excited about football. Sometimes it gets tough in football and it is hot out here and sometimes you need that little punch. It is great to get that from your coordinator."

Injuries

Teddy Lehman , who is competing for a job at middle linebacker, sustained a shoulder injury in practice. The injury was in the front of the joint and happened when Lehman took on a lead block.

Tests were taken to determine the severity. The results are expected today.

"It swelled up right away," Millen said. "As far as I know, it's a sprain."

Wide receiver Roy Williams missed part of a session after being poked in the eye by cornerback Tony Beckham .

"I just got my contact lens knocked out and my eyeball came out," Williams joked. "But I am fine. No worries."

Lineman Damien Woody skipped the afternoon practice because of a shoulder injury.

 

[Colin Dowling]

This is EXCELLENT news for people with dynasty drafts coming up. I don't want Stanton playing this season. I didn't think he would but now it's a near certainty. Missing snaps is a big deal, but he will be under no pressure all season and can simply watch and learn and learn and learn. The fact that he is sitting doesn't change the fact that he's going to be the QB someday for a team with a very intriguing offense. A reduction in his value on draft boards right now is excellent news.

 

[Bri]

Stanton out 2-4 weeks per Millen

Lions: Notebook

Helping out

Tight end Alan Ricard might not make the roster, but he gives the Lions another body to pound on during practice following the retirement of Eric Beverly . Ricard, 30, is a former Baltimore Raven. Tuesday was his second day of training camp.

He's a FB

Wide receiver Roy Williams missed part of a session after being poked in the eye by cornerback Tony Beckham .

"I just got my contact lens knocked out and my eyeball came out," Williams joked. "But I am fine. No worries."

aww no big deal, my eyeball just popped out

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Drew Stantons injury was more serious than originally believed. He would have been out 8-12 weeks, which better explains the decision to place him on injured reserve.

Link to entire article

 

[Mimo]

Drew Stantons injury was more serious than originally believed. He would have been out 8-12 weeks, which better explains the decision to place him on injured reserve.

Link to entire article

This makes you wonder if John L Smith, former MSU coach, had not played him on SPECIAL TEAMS which resulted in Stanton tearing his ACL, would he have this injury now??? I think the results of the special teams injury plays a role today with this injury.