Drew Stanton (1 Viewer)

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[devil's advocate]

i always assumed Martz was still HC shopping, so won't he potentially be on to bigger and better things by the time that Stanton is "ready"? So are all of the people inflating Stanton due to situation, I hope his talent can pull him thru once the situation changes. I understand he has a decent WR corp now to work with, but what about OLine, system, and running threat once Martz is gone?

[/devil's advocate]

or conversely, are people high on him because of his talent with his situation being just a bonus?

 

[TwinTurbo]

Martz might be HC of the Lions someday. Or he might jump to another team. Who knows. One thing is fairly certain. Stanton is not going to get much playing time this year unless Kitna is hurt. Even if Kitna plays poorly, I don't think Stanton gets a shot until next year or beyond. I wouldn't expect to see anything significant from him until 2009. I do think he has what it takes to be a starting QB in this league.

 

[Ed4252]

If Detroit falls out of the playoff picture and Stanton has a good pre-season, expect him to get some starts late. Kitna obviously isn't the future in Detroit. Early pre-training reports though aren't looking good for Stanton. And he's still behind Dan Orlovsky on the depth chart. Don't read too much into it though.

Being tutored by Martz is a good thing. I expect him to be a starter next year.

 

[jevy]

We know that Martz is changing Stanton's throwing mechanics. Has this happened to an nfl qb before? How much time passed before that qb was ready?

 

[Ed4252]

Has this happened to an nfl qb before?

Rivers?

 

[mlball77]

Having Martz work with Stanton even for only a year or two could greatly aid Stanton's development. But to answer the question, I think that by the time Stanton is ready to start and compete for the starting gig, Martz is likely to be gone.

 

[bjlmonster]

Wasn't Bulger nothing more than a backup when Martz tutored him to replace Kurt Warner? Bulger is a darn good QB now without Martz. Hopefully he will be around to help Stanton a while, but any time spent with Martz should help him.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

To use an analogy, Tiger woods completely tore down and rebuilt his golf swing. I don't see why any athlete can't change their mechanics. It's all about repetition, and Stanton will be practicing all season, and all through the next off-season. I personally don't think he plays this season.

 

[sholditch]

Has this happened to an nfl qb before?

Rivers?

 

[coolnerd]

We know that Martz is changing Stanton's throwing mechanics. Has this happened to an nfl qb before? How much time passed before that qb was ready?

Q1- David CarrQ2- Still waiting

 

[Balco]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

What's funny is that you think the Lions drafted a 2nd round QB to be 3rd string behind a guy was drafted in the 5th round and hasn't done squat in two years - even in pre-season.Is it his 3.71 career YPA or his 51.8 QB rating that excites you most about Danny Boy? Just kidding, I know those stats are fairly meaningless.

 

[gianmarco]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

People aren't forgetting. Orlovsky isn't the answer, hence drafting Stanton as early as they did. Not saying Stanton is the answer yet either, but most think he's got a better shot than Orlovsky at this point.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Stanton was not drafted to be the 2007 backup QB; he was drafted to be developed into the Lions long term starting QB. Orlovsky will almost certainly be the backup QB this year.

 

[jurb26]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

What's funny is that you think the Lions drafted a 2nd round QB to be 3rd string behind a guy was drafted in the 5th round and hasn't done squat in two years - even in pre-season.Is it his 3.71 career YPA or his 51.8 QB rating that excites you most about Danny Boy? Just kidding, I know those stats are fairly meaningless.

Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not.

 

[bjlmonster]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

What's funny is that you think the Lions drafted a 2nd round QB to be 3rd string behind a guy was drafted in the 5th round and hasn't done squat in two years - even in pre-season.Is it his 3.71 career YPA or his 51.8 QB rating that excites you most about Danny Boy? Just kidding, I know those stats are fairly meaningless.

Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not.

Orvlosky will remain #2 on the depth chart and IMO will play before Stanton as long as the Lions don't want to give up on their season. Orvlosky will also stay #2 in next year when Stanton jumps to #1.

 

[Balco]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

What's funny is that you think the Lions drafted a 2nd round QB to be 3rd string behind a guy was drafted in the 5th round and hasn't done squat in two years - even in pre-season.Is it his 3.71 career YPA or his 51.8 QB rating that excites you most about Danny Boy? Just kidding, I know those stats are fairly meaningless.

Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not.

Just curious as to why you think this? Stanton has not taken a pro snap yet, he has starting potential? What is that assumption based on? The round he was picked? So say a 5th round qb does not have starter potential?

 

[duaneok66]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

What's funny is that you think the Lions drafted a 2nd round QB to be 3rd string behind a guy was drafted in the 5th round and hasn't done squat in two years - even in pre-season.Is it his 3.71 career YPA or his 51.8 QB rating that excites you most about Danny Boy? Just kidding, I know those stats are fairly meaningless.

Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not.

Just curious as to why you think this? Stanton has not taken a pro snap yet, he has starting potential? What is that assumption based on? The round he was picked? So say a 5th round qb does not have starter potential?

if they thought Orlovsky was starter material they probably wouldnt have drafted Stanton . . .

 

[Balco]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

What's funny is that you think the Lions drafted a 2nd round QB to be 3rd string behind a guy was drafted in the 5th round and hasn't done squat in two years - even in pre-season.Is it his 3.71 career YPA or his 51.8 QB rating that excites you most about Danny Boy? Just kidding, I know those stats are fairly meaningless.

Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not.

Just curious as to why you think this? Stanton has not taken a pro snap yet, he has starting potential? What is that assumption based on? The round he was picked? So say a 5th round qb does not have starter potential?

if they thought Orlovsky was starter material they probably wouldnt have drafted Stanton . . .

That's why the Chargers drafted Rivers. Brees wasn't cutting it and they didn't think he could be a starter.No doubt this is a pivotal year in Orlovsky's development. This preseason is vital for him. He will likely get a lot of time with the 1st team offense during the preseason. I really liked what I saw of Orlovsky coming out of UCONN, and I think he is going to develop into a solid NFL qb. He might just have to go the Matt Hasselback route.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

What's funny is that you think the Lions drafted a 2nd round QB to be 3rd string behind a guy was drafted in the 5th round and hasn't done squat in two years - even in pre-season.Is it his 3.71 career YPA or his 51.8 QB rating that excites you most about Danny Boy? Just kidding, I know those stats are fairly meaningless.

Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not.

Just curious as to why you think this? Stanton has not taken a pro snap yet, he has starting potential? What is that assumption based on? The round he was picked? So say a 5th round qb does not have starter potential?

Using this theory, you must think that no rookies have starting potential, since none have ever taken an NFL snap.

 

[Balco]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

What's funny is that you think the Lions drafted a 2nd round QB to be 3rd string behind a guy was drafted in the 5th round and hasn't done squat in two years - even in pre-season.Is it his 3.71 career YPA or his 51.8 QB rating that excites you most about Danny Boy? Just kidding, I know those stats are fairly meaningless.

Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not.

Just curious as to why you think this? Stanton has not taken a pro snap yet, he has starting potential? What is that assumption based on? The round he was picked? So say a 5th round qb does not have starter potential?

Using this theory, you must think that no rookies have starting potential, since none have ever taken an NFL snap.

Not true. I think you can say Drew Stanton has starting potential just as much as you can say Troy Smith has starting potential. Players wouldn't be drafted if coaches didn;t think they could be starters or at least significant contributors. His statement was "Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not". I was just wondering why he though that, meaning why doesn't Orlovsky have starting potential. Look at my avatar, I am not exactly rooting for someone to become a solid starting qb for the Lions down the road. I just think Orlovsky can be the starter and people seem to be leapfrogging Stanton over him already. Coaches rave about Orlovsky's work ethic, and he is now entering year 2 in Martz' offense. I think he has a very good chance to take a big step.

 

[DropKick]

It's funny how many people forget Dan Orlovsky is ahead of Stanton on the depth chart. I expect it to stay that way.

What's funny is that you think the Lions drafted a 2nd round QB to be 3rd string behind a guy was drafted in the 5th round and hasn't done squat in two years - even in pre-season.Is it his 3.71 career YPA or his 51.8 QB rating that excites you most about Danny Boy? Just kidding, I know those stats are fairly meaningless.

Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not.

Just curious as to why you think this? Stanton has not taken a pro snap yet, he has starting potential? What is that assumption based on? The round he was picked? So say a 5th round qb does not have starter potential?

Using this theory, you must think that no rookies have starting potential, since none have ever taken an NFL snap.

Not true. I think you can say Drew Stanton has starting potential just as much as you can say Troy Smith has starting potential. Players wouldn't be drafted if coaches didn;t think they could be starters or at least significant contributors. His statement was "Stanton actually has starting potential. Orlovsky does not". I was just wondering why he though that, meaning why doesn't Orlovsky have starting potential. Look at my avatar, I am not exactly rooting for someone to become a solid starting qb for the Lions down the road. I just think Orlovsky can be the starter and people seem to be leapfrogging Stanton over him already. Coaches rave about Orlovsky's work ethic, and he is now entering year 2 in Martz' offense. I think he has a very good chance to take a big step.

I wouldn't read too much into July depth charts or even coaches' comments about work ethic. I would read more into the fact the team invested a high pick in their QB of the future. Grab Orlovsky if you like in your dynasty league. I'll roll the dice with Stanton.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Stanton signed and is in camp on time.

 

[Lash]

in light of the news today, i would seem to think now a MUCH larger chance of Stanton not getting the benefit of tutelage under Martz

classroom discussion isn't enough

i like stanton and am not being cynical here, just think he is overvalued based on the martz connection that may or may not come to fruition

we should be evaluating him based on his OWN merit, not his OC's

 

[Lash]

so what would be Stanton's value if Martz was a non-factor in the discussion?