Dungy ready to call it a career? (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

I guess we'll know soon enough, but what does everyone think about Tony Dungy calling it a career in Indy? I'm sure you heard that his kids transferred schools to Tampa already and he met with ownership late last week, which some have speculated as been about Dungy saying he was leaving regardless of what happens in the playoffs.

ESPN is running with a similar story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/c...&id=3195151

Just curious...you think he returns? I think he'll retire, but then it becomes who coaches the Colts? I just don't see Tom Moore taking over the HC reins, would they vault Caldwell above him and be the new figurehead?

 

[Warpig]

This is what I said immediately after the game...that Dungy would retire now.

I wonder if Cowher would be interested in coaching Peyton?!?

 

[Jason Wood]

This is what I said immediately after the game...that Dungy would retire now. I wonder if Cowher would be interested in coaching Peyton?!?

That's an interesting question. I think Cowher has been consistent in his view that 2009 is when he'll consider coming back to coaching. HOWEVER, if there's an NFL job that would make him re-think his view, I would have to imagine Indy, right? He could step in and basically everything is already in place. Presuming, of course, Tom Moore would stay on [which I think he would given how well he's paid and how good the offense remains].

 

[shadyridr]

Ron Meeks?

 

[Bri]

some guy here broke this rumor a while ago, props to him

 

[gianmarco]

Maybe Petrino will change his mind..............................................again.

 

[Bri]

Ron Meeks?

He sure will get alot of interviews.I think losing Moore too will be their concern and Moore will all but pick the next HC, despite what "comes out" in the press. He's certainly wealthy enough and old enough to retire and losing Dungy AND Moore would possibly be too much.

 

[Bri]

I'm not as big a fan of Martz as I used to be but I think Polian should interview him if Moore's leaving. As OC, he could switch jobs again and if Moore's gone I don't see anyone else out there that could replace Moore. As a HC, we all know Martz would instill the O and maybe call plays so...

 

[Delusions Of Adequacy]

Dungy was on Sirius NFL and said he will talk with his wife and make a decision in the next couple of weeks, after the emotions of the playoff loss have worn off.

 

[Topes]

Monte Kiffin?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I think Dungy stays.

 

[hauser42]

I think Dungy leaves from all the stuff I have read about him. He is not looking to be a lifer and loves his family enough to give it up.

Caldwell would be the first option since he is the associate head coach and is highly regarded in the league. Have not heard the Tom Moore is leaving but that would be a blow to this team's offense.

 

[Stewy]

I'm not as big a fan of Martz as I used to be but I think Polian should interview him if Moore's leaving. As OC, he could switch jobs again and if Moore's gone I don't see anyone else out there that could replace Moore. As a HC, we all know Martz would instill the O and maybe call plays so...

As a Texans fan I would be elated to see Martz get the HC job in Indy. Unfortunately I don't think we'd be so lucky.

 

[Bri]

I'm not as big a fan of Martz as I used to be but I think Polian should interview him if Moore's leaving. As OC, he could switch jobs again and if Moore's gone I don't see anyone else out there that could replace Moore. As a HC, we all know Martz would instill the O and maybe call plays so...

As a Texans fan I would be elated to see Martz get the HC job in Indy. Unfortunately I don't think we'd be so lucky.

Why?Don't think he could keep them high scoring?

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

The Cowher drop here is interesting...I don't know how much they were friends, but FWIW they worked together here in KC under Marty Schottenheimer...Cowher was the DC and Dungy coached the DBs.

 

[sho nuff]

I'm not as big a fan of Martz as I used to be but I think Polian should interview him if Moore's leaving. As OC, he could switch jobs again and if Moore's gone I don't see anyone else out there that could replace Moore. As a HC, we all know Martz would instill the O and maybe call plays so...

As a Texans fan I would be elated to see Martz get the HC job in Indy. Unfortunately I don't think we'd be so lucky.

Why?Don't think he could keep them high scoring?

I think he or Peyton would end up strangling the other.Peyton might just look at him and tell him that he is smarter than Martz and for Martz to shut the hell up.Martz in Indy? That is kind of laughable.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

I'm not as big a fan of Martz as I used to be but I think Polian should interview him if Moore's leaving. As OC, he could switch jobs again and if Moore's gone I don't see anyone else out there that could replace Moore. As a HC, we all know Martz would instill the O and maybe call plays so...

No way does Indy management want their franchise QB playing behind a Martz line.I wouldn't be surprised to see them go with a relatively unknown (maybe somebody on staff today). This is a very well-run organization and I don't think they'll feel the need to go with a "name" coach.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

FWIW Peter King adds his

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...onal/index.html

... • A week ago, Joe Gibbs, Tony Dungy and Mike Holmgren weren't on anyone's firing line. By the end of this week, they all might be unemployed.

• I think Dungy's gone. I'm waffling on Holmgren, but if I had to put a latte on it, I'd bet he's gone, too.

 

[fatness]

The Redskins want to interview both Meeks and Caldwell for their head coaching spot, and Dungy's possible retirement is being talked about in connection with that.

Jason LaCanfora's blog (he's a Washington Post reporter)

I would expect either Meeks or Caldwell - perhaps both - to head to town in a day or two to wind down the interviewing phase and my reporting continues to point to Williams getting this job barring a breakdown between him and ownership/management over the next few days. The situation with the Indy assistants is complicated by the fact many expect Colts head coach Tony Dungy to retire, meaning Caldwell and Meeks are in line for a shot at that job as well.

 

[LGOA]

I think Dungy will call it quits. The Cowher thing is very interesting. Anyone know if Tom Morre has any connections to Cowher?

Meeks and Caldwell will get strong consideration if he goes.

 

[switz]

I think Dungy will call it quits. The Cowher thing is very interesting. Anyone know if Tom Morre has any connections to Cowher?Meeks and Caldwell will get strong consideration if he goes.

They would be smart to hire Caldwell, of the two. But then they will need to bring in a DC who is HC material and make him DC/AsstHC.

 

[Da Guru]

I just heard Dungy on the NFL network.

It depend what way the Lord leads him he stated about his return.

 

[IndyHavoc]

And now I can officially curse the Titans management. Didn't they just sign Fisher to (another?) extension? That guy is NAILS as a gameday HC and gets every ounce out of every one of his players (that's not too busy "making it rain").

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I thought Dungy had an interesting moment right as the clock expired. He was almost sprinting across the field and smiling I might add. I know that is typical Tony Dungy "Go shake hands with the winner" and congradulate and all that stuff but I also saw a guy that almost looked relieved...as if it was all done and over for him and he could start the next phase of his life.

 

[mcjc4]

Honestly, how could Cowher say no if he gets a call? The defending Superbowl champs, that offense, that defense( for the regular season anyway). You get the 2nd best team in the AFC and the 1st best team has some F/A's this offseason that may close the gap. How about Harrison being done and Indy makes a play for Moss? Well Cowher has to consider this as an option. He has no ties to Marvin and this is a buisness no matter what we want to believe. Lose a step, lose your job in the NFL.

 

[Bri]

I'm not as big a fan of Martz as I used to be but I think Polian should interview him if Moore's leaving. As OC, he could switch jobs again and if Moore's gone I don't see anyone else out there that could replace Moore. As a HC, we all know Martz would instill the O and maybe call plays so...

As a Texans fan I would be elated to see Martz get the HC job in Indy. Unfortunately I don't think we'd be so lucky.

Why?Don't think he could keep them high scoring?

I think he or Peyton would end up strangling the other.Peyton might just look at him and tell him that he is smarter than Martz and for Martz to shut the hell up.Martz in Indy? That is kind of laughable.

can't think of a real good available OC, that was all

 

[BelichicksRevenge]

I think Cowher's choice may be more geography based (He has a home in NC, I believe) than which team can win now. Besides a coach like cowher may want the challenge of building his own team and may want more control. I really believe Cowher is a man of his word and will not coach in 2008. Seems like the Carolina panthers in 2009 would be a good fit for him.

 

[Tanner9919]

I guess we'll know soon enough, but what does everyone think about Tony Dungy calling it a career in Indy? I'm sure you heard that his kids transferred schools to Tampa already and he met with ownership late last week, which some have speculated as been about Dungy saying he was leaving regardless of what happens in the playoffs.

ESPN is running with a similar story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/c...&id=3195151

Just curious...you think he returns? I think he'll retire, but then it becomes who coaches the Colts? I just don't see Tom Moore taking over the HC reins, would they vault Caldwell above him and be the new figurehead?

I heard on the radio today, that Dungy is waiting for God to tell him what to do next, and that it might take God a week or two to decide..

I think he'll come back,that loss yesterday has to sting, the defending champs going one-n-done the following season? ouch.

I don't think he's such a great coach to begin with, imo, Manning makes that team 'go'.

 

[BelichicksRevenge]

I guess we'll know soon enough, but what does everyone think about Tony Dungy calling it a career in Indy? I'm sure you heard that his kids transferred schools to Tampa already and he met with ownership late last week, which some have speculated as been about Dungy saying he was leaving regardless of what happens in the playoffs.

ESPN is running with a similar story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/c...&id=3195151

Just curious...you think he returns? I think he'll retire, but then it becomes who coaches the Colts? I just don't see Tom Moore taking over the HC reins, would they vault Caldwell above him and be the new figurehead?

I don't think he's such a great coach to begin with, imo, Manning makes that team 'go'.

i think he is a good game planner and good motivator but maybe not the best in-game coach at making adjustments.

 

[Jason Wood]

I guess we'll know soon enough, but what does everyone think about Tony Dungy calling it a career in Indy? I'm sure you heard that his kids transferred schools to Tampa already and he met with ownership late last week, which some have speculated as been about Dungy saying he was leaving regardless of what happens in the playoffs.

ESPN is running with a similar story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/c...&id=3195151

Just curious...you think he returns? I think he'll retire, but then it becomes who coaches the Colts? I just don't see Tom Moore taking over the HC reins, would they vault Caldwell above him and be the new figurehead?

I heard on the radio today, that Dungy is waiting for God to tell him what to do next, and that it might take God a week or two to decide..

I think he'll come back,that loss yesterday has to sting, the defending champs going one-n-done the following season? ouch.

I don't think he's such a great coach to begin with, imo, Manning makes that team 'go'.

It's largely irrelevant what inspirations he uses to make the decision, just what the decision ultimately turns out to be.

 

[hauser42]

Honestly, how could Cowher say no if he gets a call? The defending Superbowl champs, that offense, that defense( for the regular season anyway). You get the 2nd best team in the AFC and the 1st best team has some F/A's this offseason that may close the gap. How about Harrison being done and Indy makes a play for Moss? Well Cowher has to consider this as an option. He has no ties to Marvin and this is a buisness no matter what we want to believe. Lose a step, lose your job in the NFL.

He can easily say no if he really doesn't want to coach next year and spend time with his family. Bill Cowher doesn't have to coach another NFL game the rest of his life he has done it all. I truly hope he never comes back and takes away from what he has done already in the NFL.Colts are not a good fit for Cowher as he is about defense and running the ball to control the clock.

 

[gianmarco]

I guess we'll know soon enough, but what does everyone think about Tony Dungy calling it a career in Indy? I'm sure you heard that his kids transferred schools to Tampa already and he met with ownership late last week, which some have speculated as been about Dungy saying he was leaving regardless of what happens in the playoffs.

ESPN is running with a similar story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/c...&id=3195151

Just curious...you think he returns? I think he'll retire, but then it becomes who coaches the Colts? I just don't see Tom Moore taking over the HC reins, would they vault Caldwell above him and be the new figurehead?

I don't think he's such a great coach to begin with, imo, Manning makes that team 'go'.

i think he is a good game planner and good motivator but maybe not the best in-game coach at making adjustments.

Hmm, I actually think he's often VERY good at making 2nd half adjustments. Now, I'm not sure how much of it is the OC and Manning having input, but Indy has a knack for being close to start the game, then coming out in the 2nd half and finding something in the defense and exploiting it.

 

[BelichicksRevenge]

Honestly, how could Cowher say no if he gets a call? The defending Superbowl champs, that offense, that defense( for the regular season anyway). You get the 2nd best team in the AFC and the 1st best team has some F/A's this offseason that may close the gap. How about Harrison being done and Indy makes a play for Moss? Well Cowher has to consider this as an option. He has no ties to Marvin and this is a buisness no matter what we want to believe. Lose a step, lose your job in the NFL.

He can easily say no if he really doesn't want to coach next year and spend time with his family. Bill Cowher doesn't have to coach another NFL game the rest of his life he has done it all. I truly hope he never comes back and takes away from what he has done already in the NFL.Colts are not a good fit for Cowher as he is about defense and running the ball to control the clock.

he also likes the 3-4 defense and the Colts definitely don't have the personnel to run that.

 

[Verbal Kint]

It sounds like the rumor here is that he wants to retire. The rumor I had read sounded like a force out, which I believe has 0 chance of being true.

 

[switz]

It sounds like the rumor here is that he wants to retire. The rumor I had read sounded like a force out, which I believe has 0 chance of being true.

I never heard rumor of a force out.

 

[gilpdawg]

I thought Dungy had an interesting moment right as the clock expired. He was almost sprinting across the field and smiling I might add. I know that is typical Tony Dungy "Go shake hands with the winner" and congradulate and all that stuff but I also saw a guy that almost looked relieved...as if it was all done and over for him and he could start the next phase of his life.

I noticed that as well.

 

[buster c]

Per PFT:

POSTED 2:06 p.m. EST, January 16, 2008

DUNGY OUT, CALDWELL IN

A league source tells us that Colts coach Tony Dungy will step down, and that assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach Jim Caldwell will take the reins.

More to come.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

A league source tells us that Colts coach Tony Dungy will step down, and that assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach Jim Caldwell will take the reins.

More to come.

http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

 

[mad sweeney]

Is Caldwell black? Can they do that without interviewing one if he isn't? And if he is, do they need to interview a white guy too to make it fair?

 

[Workhorse]

Best of luck to Tony Dungy, one of the true class acts in ANY sport. I'm obviously no Colts fan but there's some real karmic justice in the world that Dungy got his ring last year.

Best wishes, Tony. You'll be missed in the NFL.

 

[PatrickT]

Is Caldwell black? Can they do that without interviewing one if he isn't? And if he is, do they need to interview a white guy too to make it fair?

You're cute when you're being naive.

 

[PatrickT]

If it's true, the best of luck to Dungy, class act and all-around good guy.

In other news, this may be what the Falcons were waiting for. I wonder if a Rex Ryan announcement isn't around the corner.

 

[mad sweeney]

Is Caldwell black? Can they do that without interviewing one if he isn't? And if he is, do they need to interview a white guy too to make it fair?

You're cute when you're being naive.

Well the first two questions are serious. The last one was a bit of a jab at EOE.I am mainly curious how this successor thing goes because of the Seahawks' potential coaching vacancy. And if Mora is being groomed for the job, what will the Rooney rule requirements be regarding that.

 

[PatrickT]

Is Caldwell black? Can they do that without interviewing one if he isn't? And if he is, do they need to interview a white guy too to make it fair?

You're cute when you're being naive.

Well the first two questions are serious. The last one was a bit of a jab at EOE.I am mainly curious how this successor thing goes because of the Seahawks' potential coaching vacancy. And if Mora is being groomed for the job, what will the Rooney rule requirements be regarding that.

Caldwell is black, BTW.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

"Caldwell is the new GM"?

that a typo?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

"Caldwell is the new GM"?that a typo?

Yes.

 

[redman]

Is Caldwell black? Can they do that without interviewing one if he isn't? And if he is, do they need to interview a white guy too to make it fair?

You're cute when you're being naive.

Well the first two questions are serious. The last one was a bit of a jab at EOE.I am mainly curious how this successor thing goes because of the Seahawks' potential coaching vacancy. And if Mora is being groomed for the job, what will the Rooney rule requirements be regarding that.

I believe the Rooney Rule requires a minority candidate to be interviewed unless the new coach is hired from within the organization. Obviously, with Caldwell it's a moot point for a couple of reasons.

 

[thayman]

Is Caldwell black? Can they do that without interviewing one if he isn't? And if he is, do they need to interview a white guy too to make it fair?

Came up in the Redskins thread where someone was saying there is an exception to the Rooney rule if they promote from within in a certain timeframe. I don't know if it is true or not, but it was being talked about over there.

 

[mad sweeney]

Is Caldwell black? Can they do that without interviewing one if he isn't? And if he is, do they need to interview a white guy too to make it fair?

Came up in the Redskins thread where someone was saying there is an exception to the Rooney rule if they promote from within in a certain timeframe. I don't know if it is true or not, but it was being talked about over there.

I just found this (from the Washington Post no less)

Received some emails about the exact nature of the Rooney Rule in terms of minority hiring in the NFL. I contacted the league for the official statement, as there was some confusion if you had [to] interview a minority candidate if a team was going to hire from within. And, yes they do; there is one exception to the rule that does not apply in this case.

Here's the NFL briefing on the rule from 12/20/02:

"On the December 19-20 conference calls, the owners strongly agreed on the principle that any club seeking to hire a head coach will interview one or more minority applicants for the position. The one exception occurs when a club has made a prior contractual commitment to promote a member of its own staff and no additional interviewing takes place (e.g. Mike Martz and the St. Louis Rams in 2000)."

 

[thayman]

Is Caldwell black? Can they do that without interviewing one if he isn't? And if he is, do they need to interview a white guy too to make it fair?

Came up in the Redskins thread where someone was saying there is an exception to the Rooney rule if they promote from within in a certain timeframe. I don't know if it is true or not, but it was being talked about over there.

I just found this (from the Washington Post no less)

Received some emails about the exact nature of the Rooney Rule in terms of minority hiring in the NFL. I contacted the league for the official statement, as there was some confusion if you had [to] interview a minority candidate it a team was going to hire from within. And, yes they do; there is one exception to the rule that does not apply in this case.

Here's the NFL briefing on the rule from 12/20/02:

"On the December 19-20 conference calls, the owners strongly agreed on the principle that any club seeking to hire a head coach will interview one or more minority applicants for the position. The one exception occurs when a club has made a prior contractual commitment to promote a member of its own staff and no additional interviewing takes place (e.g. Mike Martz and the St. Louis Rams in 2000)."

that clears it up quite a bit. I was confused when it was being talked about before. Thanks.