[dynasty] 2012 rookies vs. 2013 rookies (1 Viewer)

[joey]

I admit that I don't do my own dynasty rankings, I cheat off of other's work, and I don't watch any college football to know anything about next year's rookie class. I've learned everything i know about this year's draft class from interesting shark pool threads and lots of rookie rankings that are coming out these days That said...

For those that are studying this year's and next year's (potential) rookie classes, which one is generally "better" or deeper in the first round of fantasy drafts?

I've already traded for this year's 1.1 but would love to also get my hands on a mid-first rounder this year to grab one of Miller/Martin/Wilson. But I don't know anything about next year's rookie prospects to know if I really want to hold on to my pick next year for a slew of juicy talent that's gonna hit the NFL draft.

Sure, I know I could swing another trade next year to get into the first round of that draft but, all things being equal, would you rather have a mid-1st rounder this year or a mid-1st rounder next year.

 

[MAC_32]

This year's rookie crop is the best one since 2008, unless you have one of the last picks of the 1st round you should have a future starter on your hands and even if you do you still may get one if someone else reaches for Hill and/or Jeffrey. Next year is likely back to reality, I really like two likely WR declares (Woods and Allen) but all of the RB's have big ? and I'd be shocked if I like any of the QB's. Barkley's decent, but he's not special.

I'm hoping to use my 2013 #1 to add another #1 this year.

 

[Andrew74]

I am glad this question was asked. I have contemplating trying to get into the 1.06-1.08 range to try and snag one of the RBs. I was wondering if I should use up the two 1st next year. My feeling from the board is '13 isn't going to be as good.

 

[joey]

This year's rookie crop is the best one since 2008, unless you have one of the last picks of the 1st round you should have a future starter on your hands and even if you do you still may get one if someone else reaches for Hill and/or Jeffrey. Next year is likely back to reality, I really like two likely WR declares (Woods and Allen) but all of the RB's have big ? and I'd be shocked if I like any of the QB's. Barkley's decent, but he's not special.I'm hoping to use my 2013 #1 to add another #1 this year.

That's the vibe I've been getting from all the threads here about this year's class. Seems like it's around 10 deep or so with starter-level talent.And thanks for your thoughts on next year's class. Starting to think about snagging another 1st rounder this year...would love to hear any other thoughts from dynasty vets out there...

 

[Xue]

Next year's QBs and RBs will be better at the top.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Next year's QBs and RBs will be better at the top.

Huh?

 

[mlball77]

Next year's QBs and RBs will be better at the top.

Interesting take. I thought this year's rookie class strength was the top-end QBs (Luck and RGIII) and top-end RB (Richardson). Seems like many see the aforementioned QBs as very near sure things and Richardson as the best RB to come out since Peterson. Hyperbole runs wild this time of year, but those are some of the things I'm seeing/hearing.

 

[SayWhat?]

This is always a tough exercise to perform in my opinion. Think about how this year's rookie class was thought of at this time last year. The potentially elite was Luck, Richardson, Blackmon, and even Jeffrey. Now Jeffrey has fallen off for the likes of RG3, Miller, Martin, Wilson, and Floyd. But those players weren't thought of a year ago as upcoming NFL rookie studs, or even lock first round rookie picks, in 2012. So while this year's class appears to be deeper than 2013's will be, that's not to say that players won't emerge over the course of the next twelve months that has people feeling better about the rookies at this time next season.

With that said, I do think that the elite talents at the very top of this year's class will be better than the elite talent at the top of next year's class.

 

[MAC_32]

Next year's QBs and RBs will be better at the top.

Huh?

There are a lot of RB's in next year's class that have potential to start, but they all have issues. Lattimore is coming off a serious injury, Knile is coming off several, Dwyer's an idiot, and that's just a few of them. Not sure where he's getting the QB angle from though.

 

[MAC_32]

This is always a tough exercise to perform in my opinion. Think about how this year's rookie class was thought of at this time last year. The potentially elite was Luck, Richardson, Blackmon, and even Jeffrey. Now Jeffrey has fallen off for the likes of RG3, Miller, Martin, Wilson, and Floyd. But those players weren't thought of a year ago as upcoming NFL rookie studs, or even lock first round rookie picks, in 2012. So while this year's class appears to be deeper than 2013's will be, that's not to say that players won't emerge over the course of the next twelve months that has people feeling better about the rookies at this time next season. With that said, I do think that the elite talents at the very top of this year's class will be better than the elite talent at the top of next year's class.

Anytime you can look at a future class and say there are at least 3 sure fire studs that's a good sign it will be a strong one. That was the case this time last year (and why I traded my 2011 #1 for a 2012 #1), but it usually isn't the case. Next year's class is a lot more hazy, so in the end I expect it too more closely mirror the 09, 10, or 11 class than the ridiculous 08 class.

 

[cstu]

Next year's QBs and RBs will be better at the top.

Huh?

There are a lot of RB's in next year's class that have potential to start, but they all have issues. Lattimore is coming off a serious injury, Knile is coming off several, Dwyer's an idiot, and that's just a few of them. Not sure where he's getting the QB angle from though.

There's no Richardson in the 2013 class, but the WR's with Allen, Woods and Wilson are better than this class. Lattimore had a chance to be the stud of the draft and may still be, but he'll need to show that his knee is completely healed. It's a good class at the moment and comparable to 2011 but it's no 2007.

 

[beef]

2012. Mid 2nds this year have 1st round value falling to them.

 

[Zimm]

I think next year's QB class will be as good as the 2004 draft class and much better then this years class. As for WR i see it as a slight edge to 2013 if Allen,Woods, and Rodgers all come out. The RB class should be deeper next year, but i don't see a prospect as good as Richardson and Niles and Lattimore are coming off injury.

 

[EBF]

2012 for me. 2013 is looking pretty weak, although there are always players who emerge during the college season.

 

[jurb26]

For me, 2012 is better.

QBs, 2012 advantage.

RBs, 2012 advantage.

WRs, 2013 advantage.

Of course, some RBs could emerge this year and change things.

 

[beef]

I think next year's QB class will be as good as the 2004 draft class and much better then this years class.

Why do you have luck ranked above rivers, and rg3 above eli then?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Next year's QBs and RBs will be better at the top.

Huh?

There are a lot of RB's in next year's class that have potential to start, but they all have issues. Lattimore is coming off a serious injury, Knile is coming off several, Dwyer's an idiot, and that's just a few of them. Not sure where he's getting the QB angle from though.

There's no Richardson in the 2013 class, but the WR's with Allen, Woods and Wilson are better than this class. Lattimore had a chance to be the stud of the draft and may still be, but he'll need to show that his knee is completely healed. It's a good class at the moment and comparable to 2011 but it's no 2007.

 

[jurb26]

Here is how I'd rank the prospects at each position right now.

QB;

1. Luck - 12

2. RG3 - 12

3. Barkely - 13

4. T. Bray - 13

5. T. Wilson - 13

6. L. Thomas - 13

7. Tannehill - 12

8. Weeden - 12

9. L. Jones - 13

RB;

1. Richardson - 12

2. Martin - 12

3. Wilson - 12

4. Lattimore - 13

5. K. Davis - 13

6. J. Randle - 13

7. Ball - 13

8. Miller - 12

9. Pead - 12

10. L. Bell - 13

That would be the top 10 but any of these guys could burst into the picture as this season progresses;

R. Graham, Pitt

Ellington, Clemson

C. Wood, ND

Lacy, Bama

Ware, LSU

Ford, LSU

Dyer, Ark St.

Barner, Oregon

C. Michael, TAM

Franklin, UCLA

WR;

1. R. Woods - 13

2. K. Allen - 13

3. M. Wilson - 13

4. Blackmon - 12

5. Floyd - 12

6. D. Rogers - 13

7. Wright - 12

8. J. Hunter - 13

9. Randle - 12

10. Hill - 12

 

[KellysHeroes]

This yr seemed to be loaded with a bunch of RBs so its a good yr to grab a couple. QB wise it seems after the big 2 it really goes down hill, tannehill is a project for Miami. There's some good WRs but none them have stud material written on them... But then again WRs are very hard to project until u actually see them play a pro game.

This is a good class, I'm sure there will be many fantasy starters from it.

 

[Abraham]

I have friends very close to the situation and they would be shocked if bray comes out. Hunter (likely) and Rodgers (50/50) leaving would probably pull bray along with them since all 3 will carry first round grades. But they tell me he is enjoyIng college and seems to really want to be part of turning things around.

 

[cstu]

I have friends very close to the situation and they would be shocked if bray comes out. Hunter (likely) and Rodgers (50/50) leaving would probably pull bray along with them since all 3 will carry first round grades. But they tell me he is enjoyIng college and seems to really want to be part of turning things around.

Bray will come out if he has a 1st round grade. There's no incentive to stay in college with the new rookie scale.

 

[cstu]

Here is how I'd rank the prospects at each position right now.QB;1. Luck - 122. RG3 - 123. Barkely - 134. T. Bray - 135. T. Wilson - 136. L. Thomas - 137. Tannehill - 128. Weeden - 129. L. Jones - 13RB;1. Richardson - 122. Martin - 123. Wilson - 124. Lattimore - 135. K. Davis - 136. J. Randle - 137. Ball - 138. Miller - 129. Pead - 1210. L. Bell - 13That would be the top 10 but any of these guys could burst into the picture as this season progresses;R. Graham, PittEllington, ClemsonC. Wood, NDLacy, BamaWare, LSUFord, LSUDyer, Ark St.Barner, OregonC. Michael, TAMFranklin, UCLAWR;1. R. Woods - 132. K. Allen - 133. M. Wilson - 134. Blackmon - 125. Floyd - 126. D. Rogers - 137. Wright - 128. J. Hunter - 139. Randle - 1210. Hill - 12

Great list, jurb. The QB's don't look as impressive at the top this year but there's more depth. I'm not too impressed by an RB's outside of Lattimore at the moment, but that can easily change. The WR's look much better than this year and I would have all 5 guys you mentioned ranked above Floyd and Wright.

 

[EBF]

WR;

1. R. Woods - 13

2. K. Allen - 13

3. M. Wilson - 13

4. Blackmon - 12

5. Floyd - 12

6. D. Rogers - 13

7. Wright - 12

8. J. Hunter - 13

9. Randle - 12

10. Hill - 12

As a Pac-12 homer, I think these WRs are pretty overrated. Allen is the only one I like, and I don't like him as much as Blackmon. He's a tall guy with good agility, instincts, and hands, but he's not going to blaze the track on his pro day. He's probably a 4.5 guy. I think he will probably be a first round pick, but he will struggle to go as high as Blackmon, Floyd, and maybe even Wright. I am not sold on Woods at all as an NFL player, and I wouldn't rate Wilson nearly this high yet.

I am not high on next year's class at all. I felt that Lattimore and Davis were overrated even before their injuries, and now I like them that much less. Michael Dyer was the top RB on my board for a while, but he's not quite as good as I once thought and he has issues of his own.

I think this is a bad year to own a early dev pick. I just traded the #3 overall because I didn't want any of these guys, which is rare. In most years there are 2-3 players like Dez, Crabtree, Richardson, or Blackmon that I like from wire to wire. Allen is the only guy who is close in this crop.

I think the 2013 draft's strength will depend heavily on players emerging during the season ala Mendenhall, Wright, Mathews, and Martin. Nobody had those guys as first round picks before their final NCAA season. There are guys like this almost every year.

 

[joey]

Here is how I'd rank the prospects at each position right now.QB;1. Luck - 122. RG3 - 123. Barkely - 134. T. Bray - 135. T. Wilson - 136. L. Thomas - 137. Tannehill - 128. Weeden - 129. L. Jones - 13RB;1. Richardson - 122. Martin - 123. Wilson - 124. Lattimore - 135. K. Davis - 136. J. Randle - 137. Ball - 138. Miller - 129. Pead - 1210. L. Bell - 13That would be the top 10 but any of these guys could burst into the picture as this season progresses;R. Graham, PittEllington, ClemsonC. Wood, NDLacy, BamaWare, LSUFord, LSUDyer, Ark St.Barner, OregonC. Michael, TAMFranklin, UCLAWR;1. R. Woods - 132. K. Allen - 133. M. Wilson - 134. Blackmon - 125. Floyd - 126. D. Rogers - 137. Wright - 128. J. Hunter - 139. Randle - 1210. Hill - 12

This post is great and it would great to see more of this type of thing in this thread for those out there who are up on college prospects. Definitely helps to have it laid out like this.

 

[Abraham]

I have friends very close to the situation and they would be shocked if bray comes out. Hunter (likely) and Rodgers (50/50) leaving would probably pull bray along with them since all 3 will carry first round grades. But they tell me he is enjoyIng college and seems to really want to be part of turning things around.

Bray will come out if he has a 1st round grade. There's no incentive to stay in college with the new rookie scale.

Luck...Barkley....jones... Recent history suggests otherwise.

 

[cstu]

WR;

1. R. Woods - 13

2. K. Allen - 13

3. M. Wilson - 13

4. Blackmon - 12

5. Floyd - 12

6. D. Rogers - 13

7. Wright - 12

8. J. Hunter - 13

9. Randle - 12

10. Hill - 12

As a Pac-12 homer, I think these WRs are pretty overrated. Allen is the only one I like, and I don't like him as much as Blackmon. He's a tall guy with good agility, instincts, and hands, but he's not going to blaze the track on his pro day. He's probably a 4.5 guy. I think he will probably be a first round pick, but he will struggle to go as high as Blackmon, Floyd, and maybe even Wright. I am not sold on Woods at all as an NFL player, and I wouldn't rate Wilson nearly this high yet.

I am not high on next year's class at all. I felt that Lattimore and Davis were overrated even before their injuries, and now I like them that much less. Michael Dyer was the top RB on my board for a while, but he's not quite as good as I once thought and he has issues of his own.

I think this is a bad year to own a early dev pick. I just traded the #3 overall because I didn't want any of these guys, which is rare. In most years there are 2-3 players like Dez, Crabtree, Richardson, or Blackmon that I like from wire to wire. Allen is the only guy who is close in this crop.

I think the 2013 draft's strength will depend heavily on players emerging during the season ala Mendenhall, Wright, Mathews, and Martin. Nobody had those guys as first round picks before their final NCAA season. There are guys like this almost every year.

I think Allen compares favorably to Blackmon - taller, a little more speed - another season like last year and he's a top 10 pick. I have no doubt that Woods is an NFL player but my question is whether he's much more than AJ Jenkins. Marquess Wilson is a guy I'm not sold on yet - he's a lanky 6-3 and doesn't possess top speed (I'd guess high 4.4's) and shows inconsistent hands.

 

[cstu]

I have friends very close to the situation and they would be shocked if bray comes out. Hunter (likely) and Rodgers (50/50) leaving would probably pull bray along with them since all 3 will carry first round grades. But they tell me he is enjoyIng college and seems to really want to be part of turning things around.

Bray will come out if he has a 1st round grade. There's no incentive to stay in college with the new rookie scale.

Luck...Barkley....jones... Recent history suggests otherwise.

Jones didn't have a 1st round grade, but point taken.

 

[EBF]

I think Allen compares favorably to Blackmon - taller, a little more speed - another season like last year and he's a top 10 pick. I have no doubt that Woods is an NFL player but my question is whether he's much more than AJ Jenkins. Marquess Wilson is a guy I'm not sold on yet - he's a lanky 6-3 and doesn't possess top speed (I'd guess high 4.4's) and shows inconsistent hands.

Blackmon plays stronger than Keenan. Keenan is more of a finesse guy. He's my favorite skill player in the draft at the moment, but it's tough to think of successful NFL comparisons. There's nobody quite like him. He's more of a football player than a workout warrior. I would actually say that Rueben Randle is his closest comparison in this class. Nice talent, but maybe not the top 10-15 slam dunk some have made him out to be. I see where you're coming from with the AJ Jenkins/Robert Woods comp. Woods is really slender with very little playing strength or size. He has good speed, but not rare speed, and if you look at his stats you'll realize that he's actually been more of a possession WR than a deep threat (very low yards per catch). He isn't a bad prospect, but I don't get that top 20 vibe when I watch his games or his highlights. He just doesn't wow me in any way. Remember, USC's offense has made some pretty mediocre WRs look amazing. Even the freshman WR Marqise Lee came in and put up numbers. I think Woods is one of the most overrated players nationally. Maybe I am just dead wrong, but I don't see the top 10 talent that people claim he has. I think he's a solid player whose value has been inflated because of high school reputation, statistics, and program visibility.

 

[Abraham]

If Justin hunter can get his speed back, he will be the top wr taken next year.

 

[Christo]

I have friends very close to the situation and they would be shocked if bray comes out. Hunter (likely) and Rodgers (50/50) leaving would probably pull bray along with them since all 3 will carry first round grades. But they tell me he is enjoyIng college and seems to really want to be part of turning things around.

Bray will come out if he has a 1st round grade. There's no incentive to stay in college with the new rookie scale.

Luck...Barkley....jones... Recent history suggests otherwise.

Jones didn't have a 1st round grade, but point taken.

Link?

During the week after Oklahoma's season-ending 31-14 bowl win over Iowa on Dec. 30, Jones wrestled with the decision he'd known all year would await him. As expected, the NFL Draft Advisory Board had handed back a first-round grade. Most draft pundits agreed he'd likely be the third quarterback taken this spring, after Stanford's Andrew Luck and Baylor's Robert Griffin III. (USC's Matt Barkley had already announced his intent to return.)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/stewart_mandel/04/05/landry-jones-oklahoma/index.html

 

[Abraham]

Exactly. The dolphins and browns would have been ecstatic to land Jones.

 

[jurb26]

I think Allen compares favorably to Blackmon - taller, a little more speed - another season like last year and he's a top 10 pick. I have no doubt that Woods is an NFL player but my question is whether he's much more than AJ Jenkins. Marquess Wilson is a guy I'm not sold on yet - he's a lanky 6-3 and doesn't possess top speed (I'd guess high 4.4's) and shows inconsistent hands.

Blackmon is one of the more overrated prospects in several years IMO. He's a lot like Crabtree if you ask me. I'd easily take Woods or Allen ahead of him or anyone else from the 2012 class. Wilson needs to prove a bit more to me but I'd give him the slight edge. I think he's just a better overall athlete than Blackmon and he possess better size. The thing I dislike about Wilson most right now is that I feel he is too much of an overhand catcher. He needs to work on his basket/over the shoulder catching and he also needs to work on utilizing his size to shield DBs. This isn't a huge knock on him, I don't think he's been forced to work on those skills in college as he is easily able to create enough separation from DBs that it hasn't been a large issue for him. He will need to work on this if he is going to become a great NFL WR though. You're right, Wilson is not a burner. He's got plenty of speed to get behind defenses though and with his large frame and long arms I don't think he needs to have blazing speed. I still think he is faster than Blackmon. I just drafted Wilson in a dynasty league where we can roster one college player. I'll be watching him as closely as I can this year.

 

[jurb26]

I have friends very close to the situation and they would be shocked if bray comes out. Hunter (likely) and Rodgers (50/50) leaving would probably pull bray along with them since all 3 will carry first round grades. But they tell me he is enjoyIng college and seems to really want to be part of turning things around.

Bray will come out if he has a 1st round grade. There's no incentive to stay in college with the new rookie scale.

Luck...Barkley....jones... Recent history suggests otherwise.

I love Bray but I struggle on where to place him because we haven't seen a full season out of him. I am also not very confident he will come out next year at all. I think he's got top 5 potential but weather or not he reaches that potential this year is a pretty large question mark still.Another QB from the SEC could surprise everyone and vault himself into the top 10 IMO. Aaron Murray from Georgia has all the physical tools and comes from a great pro-style offense. He regressed a little bit this past year but he could be poised for a huge jump up if things are really starting to click like some of the rumblings out of Georgia suggest. I loved him as a true freshman but cooled on him last year. I'd keep an eye on him for sure.

 

[cstu]

I have friends very close to the situation and they would be shocked if bray comes out. Hunter (likely) and Rodgers (50/50) leaving would probably pull bray along with them since all 3 will carry first round grades. But they tell me he is enjoyIng college and seems to really want to be part of turning things around.

Bray will come out if he has a 1st round grade. There's no incentive to stay in college with the new rookie scale.

Luck...Barkley....jones... Recent history suggests otherwise.

Jones didn't have a 1st round grade, but point taken.

Link?

During the week after Oklahoma's season-ending 31-14 bowl win over Iowa on Dec. 30, Jones wrestled with the decision he'd known all year would await him. As expected, the NFL Draft Advisory Board had handed back a first-round grade. Most draft pundits agreed he'd likely be the third quarterback taken this spring, after Stanford's Andrew Luck and Baylor's Robert Griffin III. (USC's Matt Barkley had already announced his intent to return.)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/stewart_mandel/04/05/landry-jones-oklahoma/index.html

I guess if a team in the 1st round needs a QB who can complete a screen play he's their guy.

 

[cstu]

I think Allen compares favorably to Blackmon - taller, a little more speed - another season like last year and he's a top 10 pick. I have no doubt that Woods is an NFL player but my question is whether he's much more than AJ Jenkins. Marquess Wilson is a guy I'm not sold on yet - he's a lanky 6-3 and doesn't possess top speed (I'd guess high 4.4's) and shows inconsistent hands.

Blackmon is one of the more overrated prospects in several years IMO. He's a lot like Crabtree if you ask me. I'd easily take Woods or Allen ahead of him or anyone else from the 2012 class. Wilson needs to prove a bit more to me but I'd give him the slight edge. I think he's just a better overall athlete than Blackmon and he possess better size. The thing I dislike about Wilson most right now is that I feel he is too much of an overhand catcher. He needs to work on his basket/over the shoulder catching and he also needs to work on utilizing his size to shield DBs. This isn't a huge knock on him, I don't think he's been forced to work on those skills in college as he is easily able to create enough separation from DBs that it hasn't been a large issue for him. He will need to work on this if he is going to become a great NFL WR though. You're right, Wilson is not a burner. He's got plenty of speed to get behind defenses though and with his large frame and long arms I don't think he needs to have blazing speed. I still think he is faster than Blackmon. I just drafted Wilson in a dynasty league where we can roster one college player. I'll be watching him as closely as I can this year.

I think because of the disappointment that Crabtree has been it's hurt Blackmon because athletically they are similar. However, I believe if Crabtree was healthy and worked as hard as Blackmon does he'd be a top WR in the NFL.

 

[Christo]

I have friends very close to the situation and they would be shocked if bray comes out. Hunter (likely) and Rodgers (50/50) leaving would probably pull bray along with them since all 3 will carry first round grades. But they tell me he is enjoyIng college and seems to really want to be part of turning things around.

Bray will come out if he has a 1st round grade. There's no incentive to stay in college with the new rookie scale.

Luck...Barkley....jones... Recent history suggests otherwise.

Jones didn't have a 1st round grade, but point taken.

Link?

During the week after Oklahoma's season-ending 31-14 bowl win over Iowa on Dec. 30, Jones wrestled with the decision he'd known all year would await him. As expected, the NFL Draft Advisory Board had handed back a first-round grade. Most draft pundits agreed he'd likely be the third quarterback taken this spring, after Stanford's Andrew Luck and Baylor's Robert Griffin III. (USC's Matt Barkley had already announced his intent to return.)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/stewart_mandel/04/05/landry-jones-oklahoma/index.html

I guess if a team in the 1st round needs a QB who can complete a screen play he's their guy.

Let me guess, your favorite position in football is goal post mover.

 

[Sabertooth]

This is always a tough exercise to perform in my opinion. Think about how this year's rookie class was thought of at this time last year. The potentially elite was Luck, Richardson, Blackmon, and even Jeffrey. Now Jeffrey has fallen off for the likes of RG3, Miller, Martin, Wilson, and Floyd. But those players weren't thought of a year ago as upcoming NFL rookie studs, or even lock first round rookie picks, in 2012. So while this year's class appears to be deeper than 2013's will be, that's not to say that players won't emerge over the course of the next twelve months that has people feeling better about the rookies at this time next season. With that said, I do think that the elite talents at the very top of this year's class will be better than the elite talent at the top of next year's class.

Great posting. Also a great reason to think twice about Jeffrey. Guys have bad years all the time. But his talent is still there. Jay Cutler is going to be able to work with him. He's a very good QB.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I have friends very close to the situation and they would be shocked if bray comes out. Hunter (likely) and Rodgers (50/50) leaving would probably pull bray along with them since all 3 will carry first round grades. But they tell me he is enjoyIng college and seems to really want to be part of turning things around.

Bray will come out if he has a 1st round grade. There's no incentive to stay in college with the new rookie scale.

Luck...Barkley....jones... Recent history suggests otherwise.

Another QB from the SEC could surprise everyone and vault himself into the top 10 IMO. Aaron Murray from Georgia has all the physical tools and comes from a great pro-style offense. He regressed a little bit this past year but he could be poised for a huge jump up if things are really starting to click like some of the rumblings out of Georgia suggest. I loved him as a true freshman but cooled on him last year. I'd keep an eye on him for sure.

Good call, I like Aaron Murray quite a bit. His game reminds me of Aaron Rodgers.

 

[EBF]

I think because of the disappointment that Crabtree has been it's hurt Blackmon because athletically they are similar. However, I believe if Crabtree was healthy and worked as hard as Blackmon does he'd be a top WR in the NFL.

Crabtree was actually decent last year. I believe he was a top 20 FF WR during the second half of the season.I think his perceived FF value really took a dump because of his disappearing act in the playoffs. He was invisible in those games, though I'm not sure if it's because he wasn't getting open or just because the system/QB didn't do him any favors. Probably a bit of both.I have been guilty of overhyping Crabtree in the past. Even with that lesson learned, I'm still high on Blackmon. For me he's one of those guys who just passes the eyeball test. Plain and simple. Every time I see him play, I come away impressed. I think he will be fine for Jacksonville. Something like a lighter Boldin with a little more speed.

 

[Balco]

Next year's QBs and RBs will be better at the top.

Huh?

There are a lot of RB's in next year's class that have potential to start, but they all have issues. Lattimore is coming off a serious injury, Knile is coming off several, Dwyer's an idiot, and that's just a few of them. Not sure where he's getting the QB angle from though.

Injuries have really hurt at the rb spot, in a class I believed would be special. Lattimore, Knile Davis, and Ray Graham, all coming back from leg injuries. I still remain high on James White.

 

[MAC_32]

For me, 2012 is better.QBs, 2012 advantage.RBs, 2012 advantage.WRs, 2013 advantage.Of course, some RBs could emerge this year and change things.

I've re-loaded on RB and QB this year and if my upside WR's don't pan out I hope to fix the problem next year. Hopefully Allen but I expect him to run away as the #1 WR prospect, may be tough to move up and get him.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

For me, 2012 is better.QBs, 2012 advantage.RBs, 2012 advantage.WRs, 2013 advantage.Of course, some RBs could emerge this year and change things.

I've re-loaded on RB and QB this year and if my upside WR's don't pan out I hope to fix the problem next year. Hopefully Allen but I expect him to run away as the #1 WR prospect, may be tough to move up and get him.

I like Allen as well, but he is currently injured...so maybe he might not have a great year and slip to you.

 

[Shutout]

in 2010, there was a huge "consensus" that the next two years woud be weaker. I'm guessing no one expected Luck to wait and no one knew RG III and al the WRs, etc.

Just throwing it out there because I seriously doubt if anyone can predict this.

 

[Gandalf]

in 2010, there was a huge "consensus" that the next two years woud be weaker. I'm guessing no one expected Luck to wait and no one knew RG III and al the WRs, etc.Just throwing it out there because I seriously doubt if anyone can predict this.

Exactly.

 

[KellysHeroes]

in 2010, there was a huge "consensus" that the next two years woud be weaker. I'm guessing no one expected Luck to wait and no one knew RG III and al the WRs, etc.Just throwing it out there because I seriously doubt if anyone can predict this.

Exactly.

it is hard to predict but I've been reading on this board for a yr and a half that 2012 is the class to get. 2013 has been pretty much quiet

 

[MAC_32]

in 2010, there was a huge "consensus" that the next two years woud be weaker. I'm guessing no one expected Luck to wait and no one knew RG III and al the WRs, etc.Just throwing it out there because I seriously doubt if anyone can predict this.

From who? I haven't been this high on a class since 2008. Been actively shipping out my picks for future 1's the last 3 years with the exception of the year I traded up for Dez, but I was very lukewarm about the rest of that class too. Most elite level talent in 5 years, most good 2nd round talent too, and it looks like there is some gold to be mined outside of the first 2-3 rounds too. Recently the elite level players have been few and far between, the 2nd round has been very uninspiring, so the only real value has come in the form of mid-late round gold mining. Primarily wide receivers.Next year's is just hazy because of the RB's, there's a lot of talent and a lot of medical issues too. If the talent overcomes the meds it could be a great class, if it doesn't then it will be the year of the wide receiver.

 

[Multiple Scores]

in 2010, there was a huge "consensus" that the next two years woud be weaker. I'm guessing no one expected Luck to wait and no one knew RG III and al the WRs, etc.Just throwing it out there because I seriously doubt if anyone can predict this.

Exactly.

it is hard to predict but I've been reading on this board for a yr and a half that 2012 is the class to get. 2013 has been pretty much quiet

Personally I've targetted Richardson and Luck for some time now, anything that had to be done last year to position myself to own 1.1. In my 2 dynasties I own Cam and Stafford so Luck was a huge target going into last season. TR and AL are once in not very often players, elite prospects who you knew 1-2 years ago to zero in on. Now RG3 is better than most top QB in class. Martin and Blackmon could be #1 at their position in weak years. After that it's a weak class. Two super elite guys and RG3 make this class. Pretty meh once you get to the 1.6-1.12.

 

[Thewhiteknuckler]

I think Allen compares favorably to Blackmon - taller, a little more speed - another season like last year and he's a top 10 pick. I have no doubt that Woods is an NFL player but my question is whether he's much more than AJ Jenkins. Marquess Wilson is a guy I'm not sold on yet - he's a lanky 6-3 and doesn't possess top speed (I'd guess high 4.4's) and shows inconsistent hands.

Blackmon plays stronger than Keenan. Keenan is more of a finesse guy. He's my favorite skill player in the draft at the moment, but it's tough to think of successful NFL comparisons. There's nobody quite like him. He's more of a football player than a workout warrior. I would actually say that Rueben Randle is his closest comparison in this class. Nice talent, but maybe not the top 10-15 slam dunk some have made him out to be. I see where you're coming from with the AJ Jenkins/Robert Woods comp. Woods is really slender with very little playing strength or size. He has good speed, but not rare speed, and if you look at his stats you'll realize that he's actually been more of a possession WR than a deep threat (very low yards per catch). He isn't a bad prospect, but I don't get that top 20 vibe when I watch his games or his highlights. He just doesn't wow me in any way. Remember, USC's offense has made some pretty mediocre WRs look amazing. Even the freshman WR Marqise Lee came in and put up numbers. I think Woods is one of the most overrated players nationally. Maybe I am just dead wrong, but I don't see the top 10 talent that people claim he has. I think he's a solid player whose value has been inflated because of high school reputation, statistics, and program visibility.

I like 2013 WR class more. Allen and Woods over Blackmon and Floyd any day.

 

[EBF]

Disagree, but no way to prove it really.

I wonder what people who knock Blackmon for his lack of speed will say when Allen runs in the 4.5 range. Very good player, but he's not exactly a burner. He's definitely a better football player than pure athlete, and is unlikely to blow people away at the combine.

Woods...really skinny and weak. Good speed, but not necessarily very agile. I could see him doing some damage in a downfield passing attack, but definitely think he's well overhyped as a potential top 10 pick right now. He just doesn't really wow me like that.

 

[coolnerd]

I am going to speak generally, but there are always good players in any draft. The key for you as a FF player and for your NFL team is can you identify them. Sometimes it is easy Luck Richardson, blackomon are all easy spots, but even in this draft a WR drafted in the 1st round had little to no discussion on this board.

in 2013, at the moment there seems to be an above average number of good (say Matt Ryan level ) QBs, bunches of RBs with various types of baggage, productive WRs who look like more Jenkins, Quick than AJ Green/Blackmon. Good news is the we have 11 months and bunches of college football, for all of this to change. In April next year we will think differently about this draft than we do now.