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[DYNASTY] Dwayne Bowe (1 Viewer)

The Jacket said:
The only real knocks on him are lack of elite speed, concentration and a meh QB.

The first and last of those won't change any time soon, but the concentration seems to have improved a bunch from previous years. He's had a couple drops but so has every great WR. He's catching everything else, and has been unstoppable after the catch and in the redzone. The speed is generally a bit overrated - he seperates with regularity, and gets open down the field a fair bit.

Haley is sorta douchey when it comes to the RBs, but there's no questioning his work with WRs. Lynch and Pitts spent half the game today talking about Fitzgerald's praise of Haley.
Agreed. If you can get open, no need to be able to burn a DB for a 90 yard score. And Bowe can get open. He reminds me of Roddy White in that way. He's physical and uses his body well to get separation.

Being a target machine, I knew he'd be a good bet in PPR leagues even with a low catch %. The thing that has been more than a pleasant surprise has been how amazing he's been in the red zone, which you pointed out. The TD numbers he is putting up are insane. 10 TDs in the last 6 games? How is he not getting more pub in FF circles? He's only 26 and this is just his 4th year. He was a 1st round pick and has put up some fairly good numbers in the past. It's not like he came out of nowhere. This isn't a fluke. Jump on board.

Oh...updated pace....

72/1144/17

and your current WR5.

ETA: Was curious to Bowe's 40 time, so I looked it up. He ran a 4.40 at his LSU pro day. While that may be a bit kind, that's much faster than I thought he was.
I was pleasantly surprised as well, after watching some of his run after catches this year, he's actually very fast.Check out the highlights from the Jacksonville and Houston games.

 
The Jacket said:
The only real knocks on him are lack of elite speed, concentration and a meh QB.

The first and last of those won't change any time soon, but the concentration seems to have improved a bunch from previous years. He's had a couple drops but so has every great WR. He's catching everything else, and has been unstoppable after the catch and in the redzone. The speed is generally a bit overrated - he seperates with regularity, and gets open down the field a fair bit.

Haley is sorta douchey when it comes to the RBs, but there's no questioning his work with WRs. Lynch and Pitts spent half the game today talking about Fitzgerald's praise of Haley.
Agreed. If you can get open, no need to be able to burn a DB for a 90 yard score. And Bowe can get open. He reminds me of Roddy White in that way. He's physical and uses his body well to get separation.

Being a target machine, I knew he'd be a good bet in PPR leagues even with a low catch %. The thing that has been more than a pleasant surprise has been how amazing he's been in the red zone, which you pointed out. The TD numbers he is putting up are insane. 10 TDs in the last 6 games? How is he not getting more pub in FF circles? He's only 26 and this is just his 4th year. He was a 1st round pick and has put up some fairly good numbers in the past. It's not like he came out of nowhere. This isn't a fluke. Jump on board.

Oh...updated pace....

72/1144/17

and your current WR5.

ETA: Was curious to Bowe's 40 time, so I looked it up. He ran a 4.40 at his LSU pro day. While that may be a bit kind, that's much faster than I thought he was.
I was pleasantly surprised as well, after watching some of his run after catches this year, he's actually very fast.Check out the highlights from the Jacksonville and Houston games.
Yep. I know. I've been watching very closely :thumbdown:
 
After the 1st drive....already at 3/40/1TD....

Now with a TD in 7 consecutive games....over halfway to Jerry Rice's record of 13 consecutive games :hot:

He's simply uncoverable right now and his YAC ability is off the charts.

ETA: 8/120/2TD in the 1st half :goodposting:

 
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Seattle trying to covering him is sort of cute at this point. KC should do nothing but throw to Bowe and hand off to Charles. Any time they give it to Jones or worry too much about other targets is bleh.

 
:bag: Traded him before 2010 training camp for a 2011 1st rounder and Colt McCoy whom I immediately traded for a 2011 1st rounder. Both picks look to be turning out to be low first rounders in our 12 team league. Damn it hurts.
 
Oh, no question the TDs will go down, but I think we can absolutely rely on the catches and yards going forward.

The 2 problems have always been completely unrelated to his talent: 1) number of targets on the league's #1 rush offense, and 2) concentration/drops. You can never rule the latter as "fixed," but it's very clear that his head is in the game right now and he's focused to be great. I just got done listening to his post-game interview, in fact, and he sounds totally different to the immature kid who showed up in 2007 and got by strictly on talent. Now he's added hard work and everything else, and it's paying dividends.

 
Oh, no question the TDs will go down, but I think we can absolutely rely on the catches and yards going forward.

The 2 problems have always been completely unrelated to his talent: 1) number of targets on the league's #1 rush offense, and 2) concentration/drops. You can never rule the latter as "fixed," but it's very clear that his head is in the game right now and he's focused to be great. I just got done listening to his post-game interview, in fact, and he sounds totally different to the immature kid who showed up in 2007 and got by strictly on talent. Now he's added hard work and everything else, and it's paying dividends.
Edit: Here's a link to an interview, I read it wrong the first time. But he sounds like he's very focused. Not sure about the whole Super Bowl thing, but whatever.http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/21/24577...l#ixzz15ycdHqXY

 
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:no: Traded him before 2010 training camp for a 2011 1st rounder and Colt McCoy whom I immediately traded for a 2011 1st rounder. Both picks look to be turning out to be low first rounders in our 12 team league. Damn it hurts.
Wait... you got a 2011 1st rounder for Colt McCoy, just months after he was likely drafted in the 2nd-3rd round and had yet to prove anything?
 
Since week 6, Bowe has scored 150+ FF points, the next highest WR doesnt even have 100 points. :coffee:

The love child of Jerry Rice, Randy Moss and Don Hutson couldnt keep up that pace. Doesnt matter though, Dwayne Bowe is a top 10 WR in any format right now.

 
Although he had some stinkers late, Bowe finished as WR3 in PPR leagues.

Post Week 16 Line:

67/1094/15

I had projected (over 16 games):

88/1200/8

If not for the offense's (passing game) early season woes and the Brodie Croyle start, Bowe might've hit the reception and yardage totals. The touchdowns are insane though. His midseason run was one of the best I've seen in my fantasy history.

No doubt he'll be drafted as a Top 10 WR next year by a lot of people. Question is.....would you?

 
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Nice call here. I'll be interested in how Armon Binns fares(whom you've been high on)

I snagged VJAX and Bowe for Fitz and Benson, 12 teamer in early October.

Bowe has really transformed his body, looks like he shed about 25-30 lbs from last year. Just looks so much better, than years past.

 
#1 WR in non-ppr leagues.

I was pretty high on him coming into the season, but no way expected the that type of production, at least the TD's.

I currently have him just outside the top 10 in my dynasty rankings, but he is right there with the other tier two WR's.

I think he is one of the safer WR's to have right now. A good young offense with a QB who targets him like Delhomme did Steve Smith. They dont have a good #2 WR to draw coverage away, but with teams putting 8 in the box to stop the run game, they dont need to. Thats probably better than a #2 WR, this way there isnt another good WR to take targets from him.

There probably isnt many WR's with his upside either. Bowe and tyhe team in general got off to a slow start, and Cassel missed a game. Next year could be a big one for Bowe. He might not get the TD's, but i could see a 90+ catch season and 1400+ yards. With him and Cassel still being young, we could see numbers like this for the next 5-6 years.

 
Loved me some Bowe heading into this season and have defended him many times in the past so I'm not a hater. The only reason I state all that is b/c there's almost zero chance he repeats 15 TDs and I'm nervous this might Braylon part deux! I'm thinking time to sell high sky high!

 
Loved me some Bowe heading into this season and have defended him many times in the past so I'm not a hater. The only reason I state all that is b/c there's almost zero chance he repeats 15 TDs and I'm nervous this might Braylon part deux! I'm thinking time to sell high sky high!
Anyone is tradeable if you think his value has peaked. With that said, there is nothing to suggest he will pull a Braylon Edwards. Edwards never even had a 900 yard season other than his one big year. Bowe has had three 1000 yards seasons(well 2, and one 995) in four season. Only missing 1000 yards last season when he was suspended and hurt. Bowe is just starting what should be a long string of 90 catch, 1200 yard, 10 TD seasons. That doesnt make him untradeable, but you better get top 5 WR value.
 
Loved me some Bowe heading into this season and have defended him many times in the past so I'm not a hater. The only reason I state all that is b/c there's almost zero chance he repeats 15 TDs and I'm nervous this might Braylon part deux! I'm thinking time to sell high sky high!
Anyone is tradeable if you think his value has peaked. With that said, there is nothing to suggest he will pull a Braylon Edwards. Edwards never even had a 900 yard season other than his one big year. Bowe has had three 1000 yards seasons(well 2, and one 995) in four season. Only missing 1000 yards last season when he was suspended and hurt. Bowe is just starting what should be a long string of 90 catch, 1200 yard, 10 TD seasons. That doesnt make him untradeable, but you better get top 5 WR value.
Agreed. He's definitely a hold for me unless you can get Top 5 value.What many may not realize is that Bowe's two biggest negatives this year were resolved. He had the maturity/focus/work ethic issues and those are clearly gone. But, he also had major questions regarding his QB. Going into this season Cassel was thought of as an overpaid lame duck QB. There were many who wrote him off and felt he wouldn't be there in 2011 (or even last the full season as the starter). Then 14 games played later, he's sitting at 3000 yards, 27 TDs, 5 INTs, and a 98.8 QB rating. That negative is also history.If the Chiefs can keep Cassel, Charles, Bowe, and Weis together....that quartet will be lighting up the FF landscape for the next 5-7 years. Outside of the QB/RB/WR trio in Philly, I don't think there is another one I'd rather own.
 
I drafted Bowe as a rookie in my keeper league and have been betting on him every since. I felt vindicated when he finally exploded this year, but my big worry is his disappearing acts. Look at today's playoff game, for example. I know that receivers often are inconsistent, but Bowe is the personification of boom and bust.

I have NO idea what I'll do with him when it comes time to make roster cuts.

 
Bowe is a bad WR1. You need more consistent production from a WR1. Someone will draft him too high. He will likely not be on my team in redrafts.

 
Bad ankle (wouldn't have dressed in a regular season game) + C####### + 0 targets = duh.

He'll be his usual self when healthy and Cassel can't read the D and forces it to Bowe 10 times per game.

 
Bad ankle (wouldn't have dressed in a regular season game) + C####### + 0 targets = duh.He'll be his usual self when healthy and Cassel can't read the D and forces it to Bowe 10 times per game.
In a strange way, Cassel's mediocrity is great for Bowe's fantasy value. As long as he has time, there's a good chance the ball will go in Bowe's direction, which is great for fantasy purposes.
 
Bad ankle (wouldn't have dressed in a regular season game) + C####### + 0 targets = duh.He'll be his usual self when healthy and Cassel can't read the D and forces it to Bowe 10 times per game.
In a strange way, Cassel's mediocrity is great for Bowe's fantasy value. As long as he has time, there's a good chance the ball will go in Bowe's direction, which is great for fantasy purposes.
Right. He's a great player but his fantasy production has a lot to do with Cashole's complete inability to make progressions. He'll look at Bowe, and if there's seperation, which there often is, he'll float it.
 
Loved me some Bowe heading into this season and have defended him many times in the past so I'm not a hater. The only reason I state all that is b/c there's almost zero chance he repeats 15 TDs and I'm nervous this might Braylon part deux! I'm thinking time to sell high sky high!
Anyone is tradeable if you think his value has peaked. With that said, there is nothing to suggest he will pull a Braylon Edwards. Edwards never even had a 900 yard season other than his one big year. Bowe has had three 1000 yards seasons(well 2, and one 995) in four season. Only missing 1000 yards last season when he was suspended and hurt.

Bowe is just starting what should be a long string of 90 catch, 1200 yard, 10 TD seasons. That doesnt make him untradeable, but you better get top 5 WR value.
Agreed. He's definitely a hold for me unless you can get Top 5 value.What many may not realize is that Bowe's two biggest negatives this year were resolved. He had the maturity/focus/work ethic issues and those are clearly gone. But, he also had major questions regarding his QB. Going into this season Cassel was thought of as an overpaid lame duck QB. There were many who wrote him off and felt he wouldn't be there in 2011 (or even last the full season as the starter). Then 14 games played later, he's sitting at 3000 yards, 27 TDs, 5 INTs, and a 98.8 QB rating. That negative is also history.

If the Chiefs can keep Cassel, Charles, Bowe, and Weis together....that quartet will be lighting up the FF landscape for the next 5-7 years. Outside of the QB/RB/WR trio in Philly, I don't think there is another one I'd rather own.
I love both Bowe and Charles, but I'm afraid Weis' exit is going to be felt in a big way.
 
Where does Bowe rank with the rookie picks this season. Which rookie pick would you guys that are high on him trade him straight up for?

 
Where does Bowe rank with the rookie picks this season. Which rookie pick would you guys that are high on him trade him straight up for?
If my team is a contender and didnt have good WR depth, i probably wouldnt trade Bowe for any pick. The only picks i would trade Bowe for under any circumstance would be the first two. I wouldnt trade Bowe for the 3 AND 4 picks.
 
Loved me some Bowe heading into this season and have defended him many times in the past so I'm not a hater. The only reason I state all that is b/c there's almost zero chance he repeats 15 TDs and I'm nervous this might Braylon part deux! I'm thinking time to sell high sky high!
Anyone is tradeable if you think his value has peaked. With that said, there is nothing to suggest he will pull a Braylon Edwards. Edwards never even had a 900 yard season other than his one big year. Bowe has had three 1000 yards seasons(well 2, and one 995) in four season. Only missing 1000 yards last season when he was suspended and hurt.

Bowe is just starting what should be a long string of 90 catch, 1200 yard, 10 TD seasons. That doesnt make him untradeable, but you better get top 5 WR value.
Agreed. He's definitely a hold for me unless you can get Top 5 value.What many may not realize is that Bowe's two biggest negatives this year were resolved. He had the maturity/focus/work ethic issues and those are clearly gone. But, he also had major questions regarding his QB. Going into this season Cassel was thought of as an overpaid lame duck QB. There were many who wrote him off and felt he wouldn't be there in 2011 (or even last the full season as the starter). Then 14 games played later, he's sitting at 3000 yards, 27 TDs, 5 INTs, and a 98.8 QB rating. That negative is also history.

If the Chiefs can keep Cassel, Charles, Bowe, and Weis together....that quartet will be lighting up the FF landscape for the next 5-7 years. Outside of the QB/RB/WR trio in Philly, I don't think there is another one I'd rather own.
I love both Bowe and Charles, but I'm afraid Weis' exit is going to be felt in a big way.
You missed Charles last year, I assume? He only broke yet more NFL records for his performance.No worries, though. It'll only be the 3rd year in a row people doubt him. :yucky:

 
Go deep said:
DevilDog919 said:
Where does Bowe rank with the rookie picks this season. Which rookie pick would you guys that are high on him trade him straight up for?
If my team is a contender and didnt have good WR depth, i probably wouldnt trade Bowe for any pick. The only picks i would trade Bowe for under any circumstance would be the first two. I wouldnt trade Bowe for the 3 AND 4 picks.
I would in a New York minute - and I am a staunch supporter of Bowe. Why would I make this move? Probably because you could turn around and get a comparable buy low WR for one of the picks and net a high rookie pick for "free."
 

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