Dynasty Rankings for 2007 Rookies Draft (1 Viewer)

[Benchwarmers]

Dynasty Rankings for 2007 Rookies Draft

1. Detroit Lions — WR Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech

2. Minnesota Vikings —RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma

3. Buffalo Bills — RB Marshawn Lynch, California

4. San Francisco 49ers — LB Patrick Willis, Mississippi

5. Green Bay RB Brandon Jackson NEBRASKA

6. Oakland Raiders — QB JaMarcus Russell, LSU

7. Atlanta Falcons — DE Jamaal Anderson, Arkansas

8. Cleveland Browns — QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame

9. San Diego Chargers — WR Craig Davis, LSU

10. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — DE Gaines Adams, Clemson

11. Carolina Panthers — LB Jon Beason, Miami

12. Buffalo — LB Paul Posluszny, Penn State

13. New York Jets — LB David Harris, Michigan

14. Jacksonville Jaguars — FS Reggie Nelson, Florida

15. New Orleans Saints — WR Robert Meachem, Tennessee

16. New England Patriots — FS Brandon Meriweather, Miami

17. Dallas Cowboys — DE Anthony Spencer, Purdue

18. San Diego — S Eric Weddle, Utah

19. Kansas City Chiefs — WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU

20. Indianapolis Colts — WR Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio State

21. Washington Redskins — FS LaRon Landry, LSU

22. Oakland Raiders - RB Michael Bush LOUISVILLE

23. Jacksonville — ILB Justin Durant, Hampton

24. Tennessee — RB Chris Henry, Arizona

25. Minnesota — WR Sidney Rice, South Carolina

26. Chicago Bears — TE Greg Olsen, Miami

27. Pittsburgh Steelers —LB Lawrence Timmons, Florida State

28. St. Louis Rams — DL Adam Carriker, Nebraska

29. Miami Dolphins — WR Ted Ginn Jr., Ohio State

30. Denver Broncos — DE Jarvis Moss, Florida

31. San Francisco 49er's - WR Jason Hill WASHINGTON STATE

32. N.Y. Jets — CB Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh

33. Cleveland — CB Eric Wright, UNLV

34. New York Giants — WR Steve Smith, USC

35. Carolina — WR Dwayne Jarrett, USC

36. Miami — QB John Beck, BYU

37. Philadelphia — QB Kevin Kolb, Houston

38. Pittsburgh — DE-LB LaMarr Woodley, Michigan

39. New York Giants — WR Steve Smith, USC

40. Oakland Raiders - Zach Miller TE ARIZONA STATE

Comments and please rank these players

 

[fridayfrenzy]

You have your defensive players too high.

Patrick Willis, the top IDP should probably be taken at #10-15.

 

[ROCKET]

Lynch should be considered at 1.01 given the crapass situations the other 2 are in.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Lynch should be considered at 1.01 given the crapass situations the other 2 are in.

Ummm no.

 

[Benchwarmers]

You have your defensive players too high. Patrick Willis, the top IDP should probably be taken at #10-15.

Scoring is as follows Defensive players score alot of points. QB Passing Yards 10%, Rushing 16.5%, TD 6, INT -6, Fumble -6RB Rushing and Receiving 16.5% TD 6, Fumble -6WR/TE Rushing and Receiving 16.5% TD 6, Fumble -6DefenseDL Sack 12 Half 6 Tackle 2 half 1 Pass Defended 2 Forced Fumble 2 Fumble recovery 6 INT 6 TD 6 Safety 2LB Sack 10 Half 5 Tackle 2 half 1 Pass Defended 3 Forced Fumble 2 Fumble recovery 6 INT 6 TD 6 Safety 2DB Sack 8 Half 4 Tackle 2 half 1 Pass Defended 4 Forced Fumble 2 Fumble recovery 6 INT 6 TD 6 Safety 2

 

[bigmurd]

Lynch should be considered at 1.01 given the crapass situations the other 2 are in.

Isn't that a bit short sighted for a Dynasty draft?

 

[-OZ-]

Lynch should WILL be considered BY SOME at 1.01 given the crapass situations the other 2 are in.

Ummm no.

Fixed, but this probably shows why they have the 1.01I have a #2 and had thought I'd be going CJ for sure. I'm no longer positive.

 

[fsufan]

Lynch should be considered at 1.01 given the crapass situations the other 2 are in.

i think you draft who will have the better NFL career not better rookie season. I would still take Peterson #1.

 

[fsufan]

do any of you think this is a good FF off. rookie class after 4 or 5 players

 

[ROCKET]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

 

[Riffraff]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

I took Ricky over Edge. Won me a championship too. Edge's owner waited until last year to win it all.

 

[Benchwarmers]

Last year rookies scoring

Ryans 22 points avg a game

Jones Drew 21.8

Young 20

Hawk 18

Addai 16.4

Manning 39.8 #1 player in league

Tomlinson 36.9 2nd player in league

Fletcher LB 22 18 in total scoring Ryan #2 22

 

[ROCKET]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

I took Ricky over Edge. Won me a championship too. Edge's owner waited until last year to win it all.

So you are saying Ricky was a better dynasty rookie pick than Edge?

 

[Riffraff]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

I took Ricky over Edge. Won me a championship too. Edge's owner waited until last year to win it all.

So you are saying Ricky was a better dynasty rookie pick than Edge?

Didn't know about the pot at the time.

 

[Benchwarmers]

Some more to add:

Tennessee Paul Williams - WR

San Francisco Jason Hill - WR

Arizona Buster Davis - ILB

Green Bay Brandon Jackson - RB *** could be ranked in the top 10

Tampa Bay Sabby Piscitelli - S

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

Lol...more like the same ones who took LT over Michael Bennett, and took Steve Jackson over Julius and Kevin Jones, and took Ronnie Brown and Cedric Benson over JJ Arrington.Interesting that the top 3 dynasty RBs (LT, Sjax, LJ) were drafted into less than ideal situations while other people scratched and clawed at guys that had less talent but were drafted into a more darling situation. Also funny how all those guys don't even hold a starting gig right now.This is dynasty we're talking about here people. Talent over situation, ESPECIALLY when the situation part is up for debate (Buffalo has spent the last half decade trying to patch together a half-decent line and failed miserably while Minnesota has pro-bowlers filling the left side of their line).In fact now that I look at it, of the top dynasty RBs hardly any were drafted into a great, feature back situation. Almost straight down the list.

 

[Benchwarmers]

Some more to add:Tennessee Paul Williams - WR San Francisco Jason Hill - WR Arizona Buster Davis - ILB Green Bay Brandon Jackson - RB *** could be ranked in the top 10 Tampa Bay Sabby Piscitelli - S

Even more...Oakland Johnnie Lee Higgins - WRChicago Michael Okwo - OLBSan Diego Anthony Waters - ILB Indianapolis Daymeion Hughes - CB Oakland Quentin Moses - DEWill update my rankings later.Anyone have their own rankings?

 

[Nugget]

This year could be tricky. I don't know where to slot the RB's after Peterson, Lynch, and Jackson. Do you put a 4th RB ahead of the 6 1st round WR's? Dwayne Jarrett , Sidney Rice, S. Smith are in decent situations. Kenny Irons behind Rudi w/ Chris Perry, Brian Leonard to STL, Tony Hunt and Chris Henry questionable talent to murky destinations leaves much to be desired. Pittman and Michael Bush are 2nd day picks. More than 3 RB's will go 1st round, but I don't know if they should. Olsen at TE could slip in if a team has a need. IDP should not be taken in the first 7 picks, normally not before the early 2nd round.My best stab at top 20 would be:

1. Peterson- RB MIN

2. Lynch- RB BUF

3. Johnson- WR DET

4. B. Jackson- RB GBP

5. Russell- QB OAK

6. Bowe- WR KCC

7. Quinn- QB CLE

8. Meachem- WR NOS

9. Irons-RB CIN

10. Rice- WR MIN

11. Jarrett-WR CAR

12. Henry-RB TEN

13. Ginn-WR MIA

14. Willis-LB SFO

15. Olsen-TE CHI

16. Pittman- RB ???

17. Gonzalez- WR IND

18. Davis- WR SD

19. M. Bush- RB ???

20. J. Beck-QB MIA

 

[FantasyTrader]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

Lol...more like the same ones who took LT over Michael Bennett, and took Steve Jackson over Julius and Kevin Jones, and took Ronnie Brown and Cedric Benson over JJ Arrington.Interesting that the top 3 dynasty RBs (LT, Sjax, LJ) were drafted into less than ideal situations while other people scratched and clawed at guys that had less talent but were drafted into a more darling situation. Also funny how all those guys don't even hold a starting gig right now.This is dynasty we're talking about here people. Talent over situation, ESPECIALLY when the situation part is up for debate (Buffalo has spent the last half decade trying to patch together a half-decent line and failed miserably while Minnesota has pro-bowlers filling the left side of their line).In fact now that I look at it, of the top dynasty RBs hardly any were drafted into a great, feature back situation. Almost straight down the list.

Re-read this as many times as it takes you to memorize it and you'll be a much better Dynasty owner tomorrow.

 

[JAA]

Im not sold on Bowe that high. I think he will be good, but I think his ceiling is a lot lower than many other WRs

 

[fruity pebbles]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

Lol...more like the same ones who took LT over Michael Bennett, and took Steve Jackson over Julius and Kevin Jones, and took Ronnie Brown and Cedric Benson over JJ Arrington.Interesting that the top 3 dynasty RBs (LT, Sjax, LJ) were drafted into less than ideal situations while other people scratched and clawed at guys that had less talent but were drafted into a more darling situation. Also funny how all those guys don't even hold a starting gig right now.This is dynasty we're talking about here people. Talent over situation, ESPECIALLY when the situation part is up for debate (Buffalo has spent the last half decade trying to patch together a half-decent line and failed miserably while Minnesota has pro-bowlers filling the left side of their line).In fact now that I look at it, of the top dynasty RBs hardly any were drafted into a great, feature back situation. Almost straight down the list.

Not sure why you're bringing up LT. He was drafted to start right off the bat with little in front of him. Ronnie was too given that Ricky had retired, had drug isssues and then was suspended coming back. Really the only ones who had a legit starter in front of them were Jackson and LJ. Both starters in front of them were north of 30 and were in very good high caliber offenses. Dynasty leaguers could see the wrting on the wall eventhough it still took time to sort out. Benson couldn't knock off Thomas Jones for 2 years and is just now finally worth something and the jury is still out on how good he is. AP's situation strikes me as more like Benson's than LJ's or Jackson's. Not to say he can't knock Chester off but I'm sure Taylor isn't going to just roll over. He's only 27 and signed fairly reasonably for three more years. Looks like RBBC to me. Childress has said as much. His goal was to get another good back to run a two back rotation.

 

[Benchwarmers]

Dynasty Rankings for 2007 Rookies Draft

1. Detroit Lions — WR Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech

2. Minnesota Vikings —RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma

3. Buffalo Bills — RB Marshawn Lynch, California

4. San Francisco 49ers — LB Patrick Willis, Mississippi

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — DE Gaines Adams, Clemson

6. Jacksonville Jaguars — FS Reggie Nelson, Florida

7. Kansas City Chiefs — WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU

8. Oakland Raiders — QB JaMarcus Russell, LSU

9. San Diego Chargers — WR Craig Davis, LSU

10. St. Louis Rams — DL Adam Carriker, Nebraska

11. Atlanta Falcons — DE Jamaal Anderson, Arkansas

12. Pittsburgh Steelers —LB Lawrence Timmons, Florida State

13. New England Patriots — FS Brandon Meriweather, Miami

14. Dallas Cowboys — DE Anthony Spencer, Purdue

15. Carolina Panthers — LB Jon Beason, Miami

16. Cleveland Browns — QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame

17. Indianapolis Colts — WR Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio State

18. Washington Redskins — FS LaRon Landry, LSU

19. Buffalo — LB Paul Posluszny, Penn State

20. San Diego — S Eric Weddle, Utah

21. New York Jets — LB David Harris, Michigan

22. Minnesota — WR Sidney Rice, South Carolina

23. Jacksonville — ILB Justin Durant, Hampton

24. Tennessee — RB Chris Henry, Arizona

25. New York Giants — WR Steve Smith, USC

26. Miami Dolphins — WR Ted Ginn Jr., Ohio State

27. Denver Broncos — DE Jarvis Moss, Florida

28. New Orleans Saints — WR Robert Meachem, Tennessee

29. N.Y. Jets — CB Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh

30. Cleveland — CB Eric Wright, UNLV

31. New York Giants — WR Steve Smith, USC

32. Carolina — WR Dwayne Jarrett, USC

33. Miami — QB John Beck, BYU

34. Philadelphia — QB Kevin Kolb, Houston

35. Pittsburgh — DE-LB LaMarr Woodley, Michigan

36.Chicago Bears — TE Greg Olsen, Miami

NEW updated Rankings

1. Detroit Lions — WR Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech

2. Minnesota Vikings —RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma

3. Buffalo Bills — RB Marshawn Lynch, California

4. San Francisco 49ers — LB Patrick Willis, Mississippi

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — DE Gaines Adams, Clemson

6. Jacksonville Jaguars — FS Reggie Nelson, Florida

7. Kansas City Chiefs — WR Dwayne Bowe, LSU

8. Oakland Raiders — QB JaMarcus Russell, LSU

9. Green Bay Brandon Jackson - RB Nebraska

10. San Diego Chargers — WR Craig Davis, LSU

11. St. Louis Rams — DL Adam Carriker, Nebraska

12. Atlanta Falcons — DE Jamaal Anderson, Arkansas

13. Pittsburgh Steelers —LB Lawrence Timmons, Florida State

14. New England Patriots — FS Brandon Meriweather, Miami

15. Dallas Cowboys — DE Anthony Spencer, Purdue

16. Carolina Panthers — LB Jon Beason, Miami

17. Cleveland Browns — QB Brady Quinn, Notre Dame

18. Indianapolis Colts — WR Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio State

19. Washington Redskins — FS LaRon Landry, LSU

20. Buffalo — LB Paul Posluszny, Penn State

21. San Diego — S Eric Weddle, Utah

22. New York Jets — LB David Harris, Michigan

23. San Francisco Jason Hill - WR Washington State

24. Minnesota — WR Sidney Rice, South Carolina

25. Jacksonville — ILB Justin Durant, Hampton

26. Tennessee — RB Chris Henry, Arizona

27. San Diego Anthony Waters - ILB Clemson

28. Indianapolis Daymeion Hughes - CB California

29. New York Giants — WR Steve Smith, USC

30. Miami Dolphins — WR Ted Ginn Jr., Ohio State

31. Denver Broncos — DE Jarvis Moss, Florida

32. New Orleans Saints — WR Robert Meachem, Tennessee

33. N.Y. Jets — CB Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh

34. Cleveland — CB Eric Wright, UNLV

35. Arizona Buster Davis - ILB

36. New York Giants — WR Steve Smith, USC

37. Carolina — WR Dwayne Jarrett, USC

38. Miami — QB John Beck, BYU

39. Philadelphia — QB Kevin Kolb, Houston

40. Pittsburgh — DE-LB LaMarr Woodley, Michigan

41.Chicago Bears — TE Greg Olsen, Miami

42. Tennessee Paul Williams - WR

43. Tampa Bay Sabby Piscitelli - S

44. Oakland Johnnie Lee Higgins - WR

45. Chicago Michael Okwo - OLB

46. Oakland Quentin Moses - DE

 

[Benchwarmers]

Some more to add from the 4th round:

Oakland Michael Bush RB LOUISVILLE

New Orleans Antonio Pittman RB OHIO STATE

Atlanta Stephen Nicholas OLB SOUTH FLORIDA

Buffalo Dwayne Wright RB FRESNO STATE

Jacksonville Brian Smith OLB MISSOURI

Cincinnati Marvin White S TCU

San Francisco Jay Moore DE NEBRASKA

Minnesota Brian Robison DE TEXAS

Seattle Baraka Atkins DE MIAMI (FLA.)

 

[corpcow]

Lynch should be considered at 1.01 given the crapass situations the other 2 are in.

Let me guess, you have 1.03 Minny's line is excellent. CJ will be in a Mike Martz offense with a legit WR1 so he won't get double coverage.

 

[TheGreatest]

My thoughts on IDPs

J. Anderson should be higher than A. Carriker.

L. Timmons is too high.

J. Beason is too low. He will challenge P. Willis for #1 fantasy LB based on situation.

L. Landry should be SS not FS. S. Taylor is better in coverage.

J. Moss probably too low.

 

[Benchwarmers]

My thoughts on IDPsJ. Anderson should be higher than A. Carriker. L. Timmons is too high. J. Beason is too low. He will challenge P. Willis for #1 fantasy LB based on situation.L. Landry should be SS not FS. S. Taylor is better in coverage.J. Moss probably too low.

Moss I think wont be a 3-down guys because he cant handle the run. Timmons I think will start from day 1.Anderson I think might take longer to start than Carriker.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Last year rookies scoringRyans 22 points avg a gameJones Drew 21.8Young 20Hawk 18Addai 16.4Manning 39.8 #1 player in leagueTomlinson 36.9 2nd player in leagueFletcher LB 22 18 in total scoring Ryan #2 22

Well sure, the scoring system you mentioned gives 12 pts per sack, 2 pts per tackle. That's basically 2-3x what other leagues offer for IDP scoring. So yeah, in your system defensive players should go relatively high.I think it's a weird system, but knock yourself out.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Weird scoring system.

 

[Benchwarmers]

Last year rookies scoringRyans 22 points avg a gameJones Drew 21.8Young 20Hawk 18Addai 16.4Manning 39.8 #1 player in leagueTomlinson 36.9 2nd player in leagueFletcher LB 22 18 in total scoring Ryan #2 22

Well sure, the scoring system you mentioned gives 12 pts per sack, 2 pts per tackle. That's basically 2-3x what other leagues offer for IDP scoring. So yeah, in your system defensive players should go relatively high.I think it's a weird system, but knock yourself out.

I have been playing fantasy football for a long time and found this style more competitive and challenging. efsports also includes OL as starters. Rosters are at 53 players with 8 more practice squad players. Rookie drafts are very important in this style.

 

[Go Pack]

Meachum is way too low IMO. I have him as the #2 WR as NO seems like a perfect spot for a WR to put up big numbers. Good QB, good offense and an opening to start right away.

 

[switz]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

I took Ricky over Edge. Won me a championship too. Edge's owner waited until last year to win it all.

No way, not even possible, Maybe you won your championship that year but not because of that draft move.Williams had 884 yards and 2 TDs his rookie season, not a championship contributor.Me on the other hand, took Edge at 2.1 and won my championship, we had 5 leagues of 12, and the last game of the season was the 5 champs h2h and I won them all. There is no way anyone who took RW his rookie season won their championship by drafting him. Anyone who says so is lying.

 

[switz]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

Lol...more like the same ones who took LT over Michael Bennett, and took Steve Jackson over Julius and Kevin Jones, and took Ronnie Brown and Cedric Benson over JJ Arrington.Interesting that the top 3 dynasty RBs (LT, Sjax, LJ) were drafted into less than ideal situations while other people scratched and clawed at guys that had less talent but were drafted into a more darling situation. Also funny how all those guys don't even hold a starting gig right now.This is dynasty we're talking about here people. Talent over situation, ESPECIALLY when the situation part is up for debate (Buffalo has spent the last half decade trying to patch together a half-decent line and failed miserably while Minnesota has pro-bowlers filling the left side of their line).In fact now that I look at it, of the top dynasty RBs hardly any were drafted into a great, feature back situation. Almost straight down the list.

Lynch is a far lesser talent than Peterson, but he is not Arrington/Bennett bad. In fact, I would actually say he is better than the Jones boys too. He's not as good as the top guys that came out last year, but he should be successful in Buffalo. He's the clear 1.03 at worst. I would probably take him over Peterson in a redraft, and looking at Peterson's injury history, I'd waver between the two in a dynasty. CJ is the clear 1.01 in a dynasty though.

 

[switz]

I'm sure some of these same people who would'nt consider Lynch are the same ones who took Ricky Williams over Edge.

I took Ricky over Edge. Won me a championship too. Edge's owner waited until last year to win it all.

So you are saying Ricky was a better dynasty rookie pick than Edge?

Didn't know about the pot at the time.

Even w/o the pot, Edge was clearly the better RB for the pro style offense. Lynch is a better RB for a pro style offense, his style of play is. He's nowhere hear as talented as Peterson, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if Peterson had a far better career. He's such a tremendous runner. But styles of play? Lynch's fits the pros better. Just like Addai was the best pro style RB to come out last year. LT, the best his year. So on and so forth.Some people around here do not know how to grade out RBs

 

[Packers4ever]

do any of you think this is a good FF off. rookie class after 4 or 5 players

No this is why I traded my 1st(#13 out of 14 teams) round pick for J. Walker last year because looking at the players coming out this year I only see maybe the top 10 making a diffence all the other players are a crap shoot.

 

[TheGreatest]

My thoughts on IDPsJ. Anderson should be higher than A. Carriker. L. Timmons is too high. J. Beason is too low. He will challenge P. Willis for #1 fantasy LB based on situation.L. Landry should be SS not FS. S. Taylor is better in coverage.J. Moss probably too low.

Moss I think wont be a 3-down guys because he cant handle the run. Timmons I think will start from day 1.Anderson I think might take longer to start than Carriker.

I think Moss has the ability to be more than a 2 down guy, but that is debatable. His run support skills need to improve so he can increase those tackle numbers. But should start from day one, so that raises value.Timmons is to small IMO to last as an every down OLB in a 3-4. He will be used like J. Porter was in Pit I believe and Porter just wasn't that valuable. A sack every now and then and mediocre tackle numbers. If Pit transfers to 4-3 then his value goes up as a WLB.J. Anderson will start from day one. There is noone there that will challenge him. A. Carriker, although a great player, is lining up in a 3-4 defense. That degrades his value. J. Anderson will be alot more valuable than A. Carriker. Especially in EFS scoring system. He will produce a good misture of tackle numbers with a sack every now and then.

 

[switz]

do any of you think this is a good FF off. rookie class after 4 or 5 players

No this is why I traded my 1st(#13 out of 14 teams) round pick for J. Walker last year because looking at the players coming out this year I only see maybe the top 10 making a diffence all the other players are a crap shoot.

I like the WRs in this class better than most years. But after Peterson and Lynch, there isn't a single RB I'd want on my roster.

 

[jgb95]

I have been playing fantasy football for a long time and found this style more competitive and challenging. efsports also includes OL as starters. Rosters are at 53 players with 8 more practice squad players. Rookie drafts are very important in this style.

Is this Bryan????

 

[FreeBaGeL]

CJ is the clear 1.01 in a dynasty though.

I don't get how people say things like this. I'd wager that ADP will go 1st in at least 70% of rookie drafts this year. The other 30% (or less) will be divided between CJ and Lynch. So CJ is "the clear 1.01" by going 1.01 in probably less than 15% of drafts out there?I saw someone say the same thing about Lynch in some other thread, that "Lynch is definitely the #1 RB in rookie drafts now" when he as well will be the first RB taken in few drafts.What gives? I'm no math wizz, but last I check 70% >>>>>> 15%. And for what it's worth I think that 70% number is quite generous given that every single mock rookie draft posted on these boards so far has had ADP #1.

 

[switz]

CJ is the clear 1.01 in a dynasty though.

I don't get how people say things like this. I'd wager that ADP will go 1st in at least 70% of rookie drafts this year. The other 30% (or less) will be divided between CJ and Lynch. So CJ is "the clear 1.01" by going 1.01 in probably less than 15% of drafts out there?I saw someone say the same thing about Lynch in some other thread, that "Lynch is definitely the #1 RB in rookie drafts now" when he as well will be the first RB taken in few drafts.What gives? I'm no math wizz, but last I check 70% >>>>>> 15%. And for what it's worth I think that 70% number is quite generous given that every single mock rookie draft posted on these boards so far has had ADP #1.

The clear #1, as in, the best, smartest choice., Of course, that doesn't account for dumb drafters.

 

[EBF]

CJ is the clear 1.01 in a dynasty though.

I don't get how people say things like this. I'd wager that ADP will go 1st in at least 70% of rookie drafts this year. The other 30% (or less) will be divided between CJ and Lynch. So CJ is "the clear 1.01" by going 1.01 in probably less than 15% of drafts out there?I saw someone say the same thing about Lynch in some other thread, that "Lynch is definitely the #1 RB in rookie drafts now" when he as well will be the first RB taken in few drafts.What gives? I'm no math wizz, but last I check 70% >>>>>> 15%. And for what it's worth I think that 70% number is quite generous given that every single mock rookie draft posted on these boards so far has had ADP #1.

The clear #1, as in, the best, smartest choice., Of course, that doesn't account for dumb drafters.

It's not nearly that cut and dry. This class reminds me a lot of the 2004 group, with Lynch being the equivalent of Kevin Jones, Peterson being the equivalent of Steven Jackson, and Johnson being the equivalent of Larry Fitzgerald. Johnson looks like the safest pick, but Lynch looks like the best short-term option, and Peterson has the highest upside. Hardly a landslide for Johnson.

 

[switz]

CJ is the clear 1.01 in a dynasty though.

I don't get how people say things like this. I'd wager that ADP will go 1st in at least 70% of rookie drafts this year. The other 30% (or less) will be divided between CJ and Lynch. So CJ is "the clear 1.01" by going 1.01 in probably less than 15% of drafts out there?I saw someone say the same thing about Lynch in some other thread, that "Lynch is definitely the #1 RB in rookie drafts now" when he as well will be the first RB taken in few drafts.What gives? I'm no math wizz, but last I check 70% >>>>>> 15%. And for what it's worth I think that 70% number is quite generous given that every single mock rookie draft posted on these boards so far has had ADP #1.

The clear #1, as in, the best, smartest choice., Of course, that doesn't account for dumb drafters.

It's not nearly that cut and dry. This class reminds me a lot of the 2004 group, with Lynch being the equivalent of Kevin Jones, Peterson being the equivalent of Steven Jackson, and Johnson being the equivalent of Larry Fitzgerald. Johnson looks like the safest pick, but Lynch looks like the best short-term option, and Peterson has the highest upside. Hardly a landslide for Johnson.

Of the top 3 players - Johnson is the safest, and probably top-performing in '07/'08 pick. He will likely have the longest career, and play at a top level longer than either RB. He is a rare, definite at the WR position.

 

[EBF]

CJ is the clear 1.01 in a dynasty though.

I don't get how people say things like this. I'd wager that ADP will go 1st in at least 70% of rookie drafts this year. The other 30% (or less) will be divided between CJ and Lynch. So CJ is "the clear 1.01" by going 1.01 in probably less than 15% of drafts out there?I saw someone say the same thing about Lynch in some other thread, that "Lynch is definitely the #1 RB in rookie drafts now" when he as well will be the first RB taken in few drafts.What gives? I'm no math wizz, but last I check 70% >>>>>> 15%. And for what it's worth I think that 70% number is quite generous given that every single mock rookie draft posted on these boards so far has had ADP #1.

The clear #1, as in, the best, smartest choice., Of course, that doesn't account for dumb drafters.

It's not nearly that cut and dry. This class reminds me a lot of the 2004 group, with Lynch being the equivalent of Kevin Jones, Peterson being the equivalent of Steven Jackson, and Johnson being the equivalent of Larry Fitzgerald. Johnson looks like the safest pick, but Lynch looks like the best short-term option, and Peterson has the highest upside. Hardly a landslide for Johnson.

Of the top 3 players - Johnson is the safest, and probably top-performing in '07/'08 pick. He will likely have the longest career, and play at a top level longer than either RB. He is a rare, definite at the WR position.

To a certain extent, it's a matter of preference. Everything you said applies to Larry Fitzgerald, but he still commands far less in trades than Steven Jackson. So if we're simply talking short term or upside, then I think you really have to consider the RBs.

 

[-OZ-]

Of the top 3 players - Johnson is the safest, and probably top-performing in '07/'08 pick. He will likely have the longest career, and play at a top level longer than either RB. He is a rare, definite at the WR position.

To a certain extent, it's a matter of preference. Everything you said applies to Larry Fitzgerald, but he still commands far less in trades than Steven Jackson. So if we're simply talking short term or upside, then I think you really have to consider the RBs.

I forget who posted it, but if we look at the years where there have been a stud RB and stud WR and compare their values, what do we get? I'm selecting in hindsight, "best case" and not all were the top at their position, this is just to get a "bird's eyeview" into the futureFitzgerald vs. SJaxAJ vs. LJ85 vs. LTHolt vs. EdgeRandy Moss vs. Fred TaylorMarvin Harrison vs. Eddie GeorgeIsaac Bruce vs. Marshall FaulkAndre Rison vs. Barry SandersI think it's safe to say that IF you have a stud RB and a stud WR available, you're better off taking the RB for the first 3-5 years at least. After that, the RB retires or loses studliness before the WR does. But for their career, the only ones I'm preferring the WR with are Marvin and Randy, so 25% of the time. I realize bust-rate and everything else must be considered.

 

[FantasyTrader]

CJ is the clear 1.01 in a dynasty though.

I don't get how people say things like this. I'd wager that ADP will go 1st in at least 70% of rookie drafts this year. The other 30% (or less) will be divided between CJ and Lynch. So CJ is "the clear 1.01" by going 1.01 in probably less than 15% of drafts out there?I saw someone say the same thing about Lynch in some other thread, that "Lynch is definitely the #1 RB in rookie drafts now" when he as well will be the first RB taken in few drafts.What gives? I'm no math wizz, but last I check 70% >>>>>> 15%. And for what it's worth I think that 70% number is quite generous given that every single mock rookie draft posted on these boards so far has had ADP #1.

The clear #1, as in, the best, smartest choice., Of course, that doesn't account for dumb drafters.

It's not nearly that cut and dry. This class reminds me a lot of the 2004 group, with Lynch being the equivalent of Kevin Jones, Peterson being the equivalent of Steven Jackson, and Johnson being the equivalent of Larry Fitzgerald. Johnson looks like the safest pick, but Lynch looks like the best short-term option, and Peterson has the highest upside. Hardly a landslide for Johnson.

Of the top 3 players - Johnson is the safest, and probably top-performing in '07/'08 pick. He will likely have the longest career, and play at a top level longer than either RB. He is a rare, definite at the WR position.

I remember Charles Rogers being an absolute slam-dunk, no brainer LOCK. Not saying I think Johnson is going to be a bust - I think he's going to be a fabulous WR. But of COURSE he "will likely have the longest career" that's a statistical certainty. Making that comparison with RB vs. WR is adding apples and oranges. Crosby will likely have a longer career and play at a top level longer than either RB as well.

 

[switz]

Crosby will likely have a longer career and play at a top level longer than either RB as well.

Doesn't he play hockey?

 

[Jene Bramel]

My thoughts on IDPsJ. Anderson should be higher than A. Carriker. L. Timmons is too high. J. Beason is too low. He will challenge P. Willis for #1 fantasy LB based on situation.L. Landry should be SS not FS. S. Taylor is better in coverage.J. Moss probably too low.

Moss I think wont be a 3-down guys because he cant handle the run. Timmons I think will start from day 1.Anderson I think might take longer to start than Carriker.

I think Moss has the ability to be more than a 2 down guy, but that is debatable. His run support skills need to improve so he can increase those tackle numbers. But should start from day one, so that raises value.Timmons is to small IMO to last as an every down OLB in a 3-4. He will be used like J. Porter was in Pit I believe and Porter just wasn't that valuable. A sack every now and then and mediocre tackle numbers. If Pit transfers to 4-3 then his value goes up as a WLB.J. Anderson will start from day one. There is noone there that will challenge him. A. Carriker, although a great player, is lining up in a 3-4 defense. That degrades his value. J. Anderson will be alot more valuable than A. Carriker. Especially in EFS scoring system. He will produce a good misture of tackle numbers with a sack every now and then.

A few clarifications.The Broncos have said that Moss will start as a situational rusher on second and long and third downs. It's still unclear, but Timmons is apparently going to see time both inside and outside in the 3-4. Jamaal Anderson has already been named the likely starter by the Atlanta coaches. While Jim Haslett has a 3-4 background, the Rams will only rarely, if at all, line up in a 3-4 this year. James Hall and Leonard Little are their best pass rushers and are not fits at rush LB. Carriker is going to play the three-technique for the most part.

 

[Benchwarmers]

I think this draft doesnt have alot of studs at qb, rb but does have good depth and some of the wrs and defensive players will be studs down the road.

 

[TheGreatest]

My thoughts on IDPsJ. Anderson should be higher than A. Carriker. L. Timmons is too high. J. Beason is too low. He will challenge P. Willis for #1 fantasy LB based on situation.L. Landry should be SS not FS. S. Taylor is better in coverage.J. Moss probably too low.

Moss I think wont be a 3-down guys because he cant handle the run. Timmons I think will start from day 1.Anderson I think might take longer to start than Carriker.

I think Moss has the ability to be more than a 2 down guy, but that is debatable. His run support skills need to improve so he can increase those tackle numbers. But should start from day one, so that raises value.Timmons is to small IMO to last as an every down OLB in a 3-4. He will be used like J. Porter was in Pit I believe and Porter just wasn't that valuable. A sack every now and then and mediocre tackle numbers. If Pit transfers to 4-3 then his value goes up as a WLB.J. Anderson will start from day one. There is noone there that will challenge him. A. Carriker, although a great player, is lining up in a 3-4 defense. That degrades his value. J. Anderson will be alot more valuable than A. Carriker. Especially in EFS scoring system. He will produce a good misture of tackle numbers with a sack every now and then.

A few clarifications.The Broncos have said that Moss will start as a situational rusher on second and long and third downs. It's still unclear, but Timmons is apparently going to see time both inside and outside in the 3-4. Jamaal Anderson has already been named the likely starter by the Atlanta coaches. While Jim Haslett has a 3-4 background, the Rams will only rarely, if at all, line up in a 3-4 this year. James Hall and Leonard Little are their best pass rushers and are not fits at rush LB. Carriker is going to play the three-technique for the most part.

Thanks JB. Always can count on you!How would you rank these guys right now? I really think J. Anderson is the better DL men as he will provide tackles as well as sacks. G. Adams seems more of a sack guy that will rarley get tackles. I really don't think Timmons is going to be all that great unless the transfer to a 4-3 T2....in a 3-4 I see him in Porters old role...J. Moss is the big ? for me. I think he has the ability to play all 3 downs, but will need to work on his run support...I really like Beason as one of the top guys this year, with Willis probably the better overall future prospect.

 

[TheGreatest]

I think this draft doesnt have alot of studs at qb, rb but does have good depth and some of the wrs and defensive players will be studs down the road.

I hate hate the QB's in this draft. Russell & Quinn are it! T. Edwards has potential I think if Losman crashes, but nobody else really stands out. D. Stanton landed in a good spot in Detroit, but I don't like the guy at all.RB's not so good either. I think AD & Lynch are it with B. Jackson as the potential. The rest of the RB's kind of landed in a situational role or are buried on a depth chart.

 

[Benchwarmers]

I think this draft doesnt have alot of studs at qb, rb but does have good depth and some of the wrs and defensive players will be studs down the road.

I hate hate the QB's in this draft. Russell & Quinn are it! T. Edwards has potential I think if Losman crashes, but nobody else really stands out. D. Stanton landed in a good spot in Detroit, but I don't like the guy at all.RB's not so good either. I think AD & Lynch are it with B. Jackson as the potential. The rest of the RB's kind of landed in a situational role or are buried on a depth chart.

You never know with QB's these days. RB's will have lots of misses this year.