Dynasty Rankings (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Pasquino]

Still working out the details from the NFL Draft, but here is an improved / new version of my Dynasty Rankings.

Feel free to discuss or comment, but understand I'm working on redraft now as well so responses may be delayed.

Rankings

Note - Standard lineup with FBG scoring (QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE - no PPR).

Outlook is roughly 4 year timeframe.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Wow pretty low for Peterson - do you see a full-fledged RBBC?

 

[perry147]

RB Reggie Bush - Everyone seems to like him especially in dynasty most have him in the top 5, but you have him ranked 15th (A full 10 slots lower than the closest other ranking).

Why the Bush hate? Are you a liberal?

 

[Keith Lewis]

One thing that jumped out at me right away is why did Brandon Jones go from the #33 WR in the last rankings all the way down to #54, most have said he was a draft day "winner".

 

[perry147]

RB Reggie Bush - Everyone seems to like him especially in dynasty most have him in the top 5, but you have him ranked 15th (A full 10 slots lower than the closest other ranking).Why the Bush hate? Are you a liberal?

Same thing with Willie Parker? Ranked 19th but others have him 10 spots higher.I am not disagreeing but I am wondering what your thinking was while making these rankings.

 

[Warpig]

Hey Jeff, I think you made a HUGE mistake...I didn't see Kenny Irons or Robert Meachem in your rankings. Those guys are definitely top 20!

 

[Cowboys#1]

jeff - bush @ 15 - why do you hate America?

Your WR rankings are very, very good though.. Moss i feel should be bumped up to maybe 15-18 from the 28 you have him at but i like where you slotted the rookie WR's

 

[oukurt]

Wow pretty low for Peterson - do you see a full-fledged RBBC?

Peterson at RB 19? Guessing JP doesn't trust his health. I doubt it is due to RBBC concerns. Once AD rips off a few big runs on the fast track at Vikings Stadium, there won't be much of a committee.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Wow pretty low for Peterson - do you see a full-fledged RBBC?

Bear in mind this is a first pass at this, but right now there are both health concerns and also Chester Taylor, so he's not the guaranteed starter this year (which gives me about 40% of my rankings). I could see him moving up, and I do see him as rookie pick 1.01 in most leagues, but I don't see him as an "A grade" RB just yet. If he is 100% healthy and MIN hands him the keys, then he's Top 12.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

RB Reggie Bush - Everyone seems to like him especially in dynasty most have him in the top 5, but you have him ranked 15th (A full 10 slots lower than the closest other ranking).

Why the Bush hate? Are you a liberal?

I just don't see him as a Top 10 RB without PPR. Most newer leagues have PPR so he's definitely a Top 10 back there. I have 8 backs ahead of him, that's not that "down" on him IMHO.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

One thing that jumped out at me right away is why did Brandon Jones go from the #33 WR in the last rankings all the way down to #54, most have said he was a draft day "winner".

Um, I have him the highest of the 3 ranking him and he's the #1 WR right now on my board - in Tennessee.Looks like Chris Smith is dragging him down.As for the "sink", well, I can't speak to where he was last time but I don't think I did much but put a few guys ahead of him.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

jeff - bush @ 15 - why do you hate America?

Your WR rankings are very, very good though.. Moss i feel should be bumped up to maybe 15-18 from the 28 you have him at but i like where you slotted the rookie WR's

You guys are hilarious. Thanks - I try on the rankings. It's still rather early, but I know everyone wants these ASAP.

 

[phthalatemagic]

You've got Joe Addai Caddy, and Cedric Benson all ranked relatively low. Can you go into detail on your thoughts there? Thanks

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Why is Peterson 13 spots ahead of Lynch?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

RB Reggie Bush - Everyone seems to like him especially in dynasty most have him in the top 5, but you have him ranked 15th (A full 10 slots lower than the closest other ranking).Why the Bush hate? Are you a liberal?

Same thing with Willie Parker? Ranked 19th but others have him 10 spots higher.I am not disagreeing but I am wondering what your thinking was while making these rankings.

Perry,I think you need to get a bit more familiar with how the rankings are set up.I have FWP at 12 (and I moved him up slightly from 13, IIRC) at RB, while Bloom and Chris have him at 9. Pretty close to me.I just have a few other WRs (and Peyton) ahead of him overall - I generally think that after the first 5-7 RBs go off the board, a 4 year WR stud is worth more in a start 3 league than a RB - even a good one like FWP.

 

[NorrisB]

Hey sig in your apples and oranges you had Brandon Marshall ahead of Meachem and Bowe, what has changed?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

You've got Joe Addai Caddy, and Cedric Benson all ranked relatively low. Can you go into detail on your thoughts there? Thanks

Addai - I still feel another back is coming in there. I really believe we're looking at a rookie who came on well last year DUE TO SITUATION, NOT TALENT and performed well down the stretch. From what I remember of watching him, he didn't exactly make most of his yards after contact, but rather by getting his teammates to give him space (via the respect for Manning / Wayne / Harrison and solid line play).I also believe another veteran could be signed there to assist (DeDe Dorsey doesn't scare me). Dillon? Chris Brown? Ricky Williams????Caddy - I'm not sold on his durability but also that offense isn't good. If they play from behind, will he get 20-25 carries? I doubt that. They ran him into the ground his first year and he broke down, and was not 100% healthy again last year. He'll have to be replaced in the next 3 years at this rate, possibly sooner. He's a good candidate to be in a 2 RB system sooner rather than later, and I like their late rookie pickup in Round 7 (Ken Darby, Alabama) who was rated as a Day 1 guy by Russ Lande.Benson - can't stay healthy and they've already said that the OTHER Adrian Peterson will get Benson's carries from last year (with Benson getting TJones' touches). Look for Peterson to be a late round steal if you can get him (and FBG doesn't overhype him and elevate him too much).

 

[Ariakis]

Why is Crayton on dynasty lists but not on anyone's redraft lists? I would think as the WR3 he's got some nice value this year and possible top 30 if one of the vets go down.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Keep the comments coming. I'll be back later in the day.

 

[blkgolf23]

Why so low on Lynch? The only other back is the A-Train and I can beat out the A-train.

 

[TeamDingo]

Any chance we could get the bye weeks in the rankings?

 

[phthalatemagic]

You've got Joe Addai Caddy, and Cedric Benson all ranked relatively low. Can you go into detail on your thoughts there? Thanks

Addai - I still feel another back is coming in there. I really believe we're looking at a rookie who came on well last year DUE TO SITUATION, NOT TALENT and performed well down the stretch. From what I remember of watching him, he didn't exactly make most of his yards after contact, but rather by getting his teammates to give him space (via the respect for Manning / Wayne / Harrison and solid line play).I also believe another veteran could be signed there to assist (DeDe Dorsey doesn't scare me). Dillon? Chris Brown? Ricky Williams????Caddy - I'm not sold on his durability but also that offense isn't good. If they play from behind, will he get 20-25 carries? I doubt that. They ran him into the ground his first year and he broke down, and was not 100% healthy again last year. He'll have to be replaced in the next 3 years at this rate, possibly sooner. He's a good candidate to be in a 2 RB system sooner rather than later, and I like their late rookie pickup in Round 7 (Ken Darby, Alabama) who was rated as a Day 1 guy by Russ Lande.Benson - can't stay healthy and they've already said that the OTHER Adrian Peterson will get Benson's carries from last year (with Benson getting TJones' touches). Look for Peterson to be a late round steal if you can get him (and FBG doesn't overhype him and elevate him too much).

THanks for the quick reply and perspective

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Any chance we could get the bye weeks in the rankings?

Why would you want bye weeks on DYNASTY list?

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I know I'm one of those rookie lovers that it's cool to hate, but you would seriously pass on Peterson 35 times in an initial rookie draft?

Reminds me of the Vincent Jackson thing from last year. If a guys has to SHOW something before he has any value to you, you will have missed the boat on ALL of the good rookies that go on to be studs.

 

[zadok]

Would Jeff really not take Peterson until the last pick of round 3 in a Dynasty Startup??

 

[TeamDingo]

Any chance we could get the bye weeks in the rankings?

Why would you want bye weeks on DYNASTY list?

BECAUSE I do not want to have to keep going back and looking them up. Thanks for asking.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I know I'm one of those rookie lovers that it's cool to hate, but you would seriously pass on Peterson 35 times in an initial rookie draft?Reminds me of the Vincent Jackson thing from last year. If a guys has to SHOW something before he has any value to you, you will have missed the boat on ALL of the good rookies that go on to be studs.

I think that's defensible. He'd only be missing out on this particular class of rookies in favor of proven talent.

 

[EBF]

Shaun Alexander is still way too high, IMO. I think Smith's ranking is much better. I view Alexander as comparable in value to Travis Henry, who you have ranked at 38.

Nice ranking of Ronnie Brown at 22. He might be the most overrated RB in dynasty leagues. The potential is there, but he hasn't done anything to warrant his top 10 status.

I'd probably bump Edge down a bit. You really think he has more value than guys like Lynch and DeAngelo? Big stretch there.

I'm not gonna get into a whole big debate about Thomas Jones, but I continue to believe that he's going to surprise people with his play next season.

 

[Q-Bert]

Shaun Alexander is still way too high, IMO. I think Smith's ranking is much better. I view Alexander as comparable in value to Travis Henry, who you have ranked at 38.

Nice ranking of Ronnie Brown at 22. He might be the most overrated RB in dynasty leagues. The potential is there, but he hasn't done anything to warrant his top 10 status.

I'd probably bump Edge down a bit. You really think he has more value than guys like Lynch and DeAngelo? Big stretch there.

I'm not gonna get into a whole big debate about Thomas Jones, but I continue to believe that he's going to surprise people with his play next season.

I currently put him in the late 20s. 5 overall just seems out of line.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Any chance we could get the bye weeks in the rankings?

Why would you want bye weeks on DYNASTY list?

BECAUSE I do not want to have to keep going back and looking them up. Thanks for asking.

Point is, for a dynasty ranking list, what need could you possibly have for bye week status? If bye weeks are that important to you, you almost have to be more interested in the non-dynasty rankings don't you think?Am I missing something here?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Why so low on Lynch? The only other back is the A-Train and I can beat out the A-train.

1 - RBBC likely2 - He's Top 25 RBs, but I have other positions higher overall (more WRs).Right now, I see that after about 10 RBs in the league, WRs are becoming more valuable (at least the Top 25 or so) because they'll perform for 3-5 years fairly consistently, and I don't have faith in the RBs to do the same.It's a 2 RB league now, but stud WRs are still stud WRs.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Shaun Alexander is still way too high, IMO. I think Smith's ranking is much better. I view Alexander as comparable in value to Travis Henry, who you have ranked at 38.

Nice ranking of Ronnie Brown at 22. He might be the most overrated RB in dynasty leagues. The potential is there, but he hasn't done anything to warrant his top 10 status.

I'd probably bump Edge down a bit. You really think he has more value than guys like Lynch and DeAngelo? Big stretch there.

I'm not gonna get into a whole big debate about Thomas Jones, but I continue to believe that he's going to surprise people with his play next season.

I currently put him in the late 20s. 5 overall just seems out of line.

On SA - in non-PPR leagues he is a value play. The downside is in 2-3 years he'll go the way of Tiki and you'll get nothing, but you get a solid RB now and clear #1 that has proven to be a Top RB. That's valuable.I can see your arguments against Top 10, but again in non-PPR I think there's a case for it.

I'll remind you that most of my value in performance is in the next 2 seasons (40% then 30%).

Edge - I like the line and the additional TE in Patrick.

Brown - I'm seeing a New Orleans style offense with speed emphasized coming to Miami. Playing the role of Bush is Booker, with Brown as Deuce. It could happen. Fewer touches? Yes, but more performance with each carry (like 5 YPC).

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I like their late rookie pickup in Round 7 (Ken Darby, Alabama) who was rated as a Day 1 guy by Russ Lande.

This guy looked like a turd all year and then looked like he didnt belong at the Senior Bowl. It was a miracle that he was drafted. Earnest Graham is a bigger threat if you ask me.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I know I'm one of those rookie lovers that it's cool to hate, but you would seriously pass on Peterson 35 times in an initial rookie draft?Reminds me of the Vincent Jackson thing from last year. If a guys has to SHOW something before he has any value to you, you will have missed the boat on ALL of the good rookies that go on to be studs.

I think that's defensible. He'd only be missing out on this particular class of rookies in favor of proven talent.

Anything's defensible if you are creative enough. Where would LT have been in his initial dynasty ranking? I guess my point is that if MOST of your rookies end up going UP in value the following year, you are ranking rookies too low.FOUR rookies from last year are currently above Peterson's ranking, and Peterson is much more highly regarded than any of them were coming into the draft. If you would have looked at those 4 rookies' rankings last year, most would have been in the 50s or 60s, and now they are all in top 25-30 (or higher). Did they all get that much better? No, they were all just under-ranked, just like Peterson is this year. Yes, some of them will bust - they always do. But people fail to realize that VETS "bust" too from time to time (for various reasons) and the risk of a rookie bust is usually more than countered by the upside.BTW, Jeff is bad for this IMO, but he is far from alone and I have a lot of respect for him because he thrown his stuff out there early and often and is not afraid of the bashings he knows he will receive.

 

[FavreCo]

Where the hell is Favre? He's NEVER retiring.

 

[Family Matters]

You've got Joe Addai Caddy, and Cedric Benson all ranked relatively low. Can you go into detail on your thoughts there? Thanks

Addai - I still feel another back is coming in there. I really believe we're looking at a rookie who came on well last year DUE TO SITUATION, NOT TALENT and performed well down the stretch. From what I remember of watching him, he didn't exactly make most of his yards after contact, but rather by getting his teammates to give him space (via the respect for Manning / Wayne / Harrison and solid line play).I also believe another veteran could be signed there to assist (DeDe Dorsey doesn't scare me). Dillon? Chris Brown? Ricky Williams????

Caddy - I'm not sold on his durability but also that offense isn't good. If they play from behind, will he get 20-25 carries? I doubt that. They ran him into the ground his first year and he broke down, and was not 100% healthy again last year. He'll have to be replaced in the next 3 years at this rate, possibly sooner. He's a good candidate to be in a 2 RB system sooner rather than later, and I like their late rookie pickup in Round 7 (Ken Darby, Alabama) who was rated as a Day 1 guy by Russ Lande.

Benson - can't stay healthy and they've already said that the OTHER Adrian Peterson will get Benson's carries from last year (with Benson getting TJones' touches). Look for Peterson to be a late round steal if you can get him (and FBG doesn't overhype him and elevate him too much).

I'm surprised in your repsonse of Addai's ranking. If they wanted another back don't you think they would have drafted one or gotten one thru FA? Why would they wait? Did you see that Dungy has said he expects around 19 carries per game from him? Did you notice that in a RBBC he finished higher than your ranking of him?This looks like case of ignoring what's right in front of you. Consider if you will:

1. 1st round draft pick.

2. Allowed Edge and Rhodes to walk so they could draft their guy. Seems they would not invest 1st round money on a planned RBBC.

3. Excellent track record of drafting stud RB's.

4. History of 1 RB systems. Last year's RBBC was an abberation.

4. Excellent production, including one of the best YPC in the league.

5. Excellent pass blocker.

6. Excellent hands.

Not sure what else this guy needs to do to demostrate that he's the man. There are numerous factors to suggest he is the man and virtually none to support any other conclusion.

Last week you said:

"I wasn't part of that thread, but I am reading basically the same sentiment from those who support Addai as those who think that MJD will eventually be the primary back in Jacksonville.

Both backs have reasons to like them, but I'm not buying a feature back story for either.

I wasn't sold on Addai's talent, and his value comes, IMHO, mostly from being a Colt. His situation warrants recognition in that he's the one and only RB in Indy as of this moment (and less than 72 hours before that changes) not counting DeDe Dorsey.

I didn't like Addai that much coming into 2006, and I still don't think he was a Top 5 rookie RB last year. I think MJD is better - but neither are true #1s. Both need a second hand / back in town.

I believe that there are 17 better RBs and 35 better players, long term, to own in non-PPR leagues for production over the next 4 seasons."

You may think there other's more talented but we both know that's only part of the analysis. At some point you're going to have to realize that he's the man and he's in a great situation. Like him or not, he's a top 7 RB easy. May even be top 5.

 

[switz]

Wow pretty low for Peterson - do you see a full-fledged RBBC?

Low for Peterson, but even lower for Lynch, who is in a far better situation - better line, better QB, less competition.

 

[TeamDingo]

Any chance we could get the bye weeks in the rankings?

Why would you want bye weeks on DYNASTY list?

BECAUSE I do not want to have to keep going back and looking them up. Thanks for asking.

Point is, for a dynasty ranking list, what need could you possibly have for bye week status? If bye weeks are that important to you, you almost have to be more interested in the non-dynasty rankings don't you think?Am I missing something here?

I am thrilled you are so concerned. At the moment my #1 QB is PManning my #2 is JCutler they both have week 6 bye weeks(right now CLemmon the best option on my roster). I am going through the other teams in my leagues rosters to see which QBs are likely to be cut before our rookie draft. I am going to do the same with K and TD. RB/WR not so much. It would save me some time if I had a list with the bye weeks already on it. Clear enough?

 

[switz]

Why so low on Lynch? The only other back is the A-Train and I can beat out the A-train.

1 - RBBC likely - I don't see it... maybe a GL guy, but that's it.2 - He's Top 25 RBs, but I have other positions higher overall (more WRs). Barely top-25, way too low

You're just too low on lynch

 

[BigSteelThrill]

18 RB Joseph Addai, IND



Just yesterday I was thinking his value just moved up and I would have a hard time putting anyone not named LT2 or SJax in front of him. There could be a couple, but it wouldnt be by much at all. And then I see this?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

You've got Joe Addai Caddy, and Cedric Benson all ranked relatively low. Can you go into detail on your thoughts there? Thanks

Addai - I still feel another back is coming in there. I really believe we're looking at a rookie who came on well last year DUE TO SITUATION, NOT TALENT and performed well down the stretch. From what I remember of watching him, he didn't exactly make most of his yards after contact, but rather by getting his teammates to give him space (via the respect for Manning / Wayne / Harrison and solid line play).I also believe another veteran could be signed there to assist (DeDe Dorsey doesn't scare me). Dillon? Chris Brown? Ricky Williams????

Caddy - I'm not sold on his durability but also that offense isn't good. If they play from behind, will he get 20-25 carries? I doubt that. They ran him into the ground his first year and he broke down, and was not 100% healthy again last year. He'll have to be replaced in the next 3 years at this rate, possibly sooner. He's a good candidate to be in a 2 RB system sooner rather than later, and I like their late rookie pickup in Round 7 (Ken Darby, Alabama) who was rated as a Day 1 guy by Russ Lande.

Benson - can't stay healthy and they've already said that the OTHER Adrian Peterson will get Benson's carries from last year (with Benson getting TJones' touches). Look for Peterson to be a late round steal if you can get him (and FBG doesn't overhype him and elevate him too much).

I'm surprised in your repsonse of Addai's ranking. If they wanted another back don't you think they would have drafted one or gotten one thru FA? Why would they wait? Did you see that Dungy has said he expects around 19 carries per game from him? Did you notice that in a RBBC he finished higher than your ranking of him?This looks like case of ignoring what's right in front of you. Consider if you will:

1. 1st round draft pick.

2. Allowed Edge and Rhodes to walk so they could draft their guy. Seems they would not invest 1st round money on a planned RBBC.

3. Excellent track record of drafting stud RB's.

4. History of 1 RB systems. Last year's RBBC was an abberation.

4. Excellent production, including one of the best YPC in the league.

5. Excellent pass blocker.

6. Excellent hands.

Not sure what else this guy needs to do to demostrate that he's the man. There are numerous factors to suggest he is the man and virtually none to support any other conclusion.

Last week you said:

"I wasn't part of that thread, but I am reading basically the same sentiment from those who support Addai as those who think that MJD will eventually be the primary back in Jacksonville.

Both backs have reasons to like them, but I'm not buying a feature back story for either.

I wasn't sold on Addai's talent, and his value comes, IMHO, mostly from being a Colt. His situation warrants recognition in that he's the one and only RB in Indy as of this moment (and less than 72 hours before that changes) not counting DeDe Dorsey.

I didn't like Addai that much coming into 2006, and I still don't think he was a Top 5 rookie RB last year. I think MJD is better - but neither are true #1s. Both need a second hand / back in town.

I believe that there are 17 better RBs and 35 better players, long term, to own in non-PPR leagues for production over the next 4 seasons."

You may think there other's more talented but we both know that's only part of the analysis. At some point you're going to have to realize that he's the man and he's in a great situation. Like him or not, he's a top 7 RB easy. May even be top 5.

I can only hope that others share your opinion, because I don't believe Addai is worth a middle or early first round pick.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Why so low on Lynch? The only other back is the A-Train and I can beat out the A-train.

1 - RBBC likely - I don't see it... maybe a GL guy, but that's it.2 - He's Top 25 RBs, but I have other positions higher overall (more WRs). Barely top-25, way too low

You're just too low on lynch

In your opinion, which you are entitled to. Lynch will be sharing the ball from everything I see - and A-Train will be a value pick (in redraft, sorry, bouncing between threads).

 

[switz]

You've got Joe Addai Caddy, and Cedric Benson all ranked relatively low. Can you go into detail on your thoughts there? Thanks

Addai - I still feel another back is coming in there. I really believe we're looking at a rookie who came on well last year DUE TO SITUATION, NOT TALENT and performed well down the stretch. From what I remember of watching him, he didn't exactly make most of his yards after contact, but rather by getting his teammates to give him space (via the respect for Manning / Wayne / Harrison and solid line play).I also believe another veteran could be signed there to assist (DeDe Dorsey doesn't scare me). Dillon? Chris Brown? Ricky Williams????

Caddy - I'm not sold on his durability but also that offense isn't good. If they play from behind, will he get 20-25 carries? I doubt that. They ran him into the ground his first year and he broke down, and was not 100% healthy again last year. He'll have to be replaced in the next 3 years at this rate, possibly sooner. He's a good candidate to be in a 2 RB system sooner rather than later, and I like their late rookie pickup in Round 7 (Ken Darby, Alabama) who was rated as a Day 1 guy by Russ Lande.

Benson - can't stay healthy and they've already said that the OTHER Adrian Peterson will get Benson's carries from last year (with Benson getting TJones' touches). Look for Peterson to be a late round steal if you can get him (and FBG doesn't overhype him and elevate him too much).

I'm surprised in your repsonse of Addai's ranking. If they wanted another back don't you think they would have drafted one or gotten one thru FA? Why would they wait? Did you see that Dungy has said he expects around 19 carries per game from him? Did you notice that in a RBBC he finished higher than your ranking of him?This looks like case of ignoring what's right in front of you. Consider if you will:

1. 1st round draft pick.

2. Allowed Edge and Rhodes to walk so they could draft their guy. Seems they would not invest 1st round money on a planned RBBC.

3. Excellent track record of drafting stud RB's.

4. History of 1 RB systems. Last year's RBBC was an abberation.

4. Excellent production, including one of the best YPC in the league.

5. Excellent pass blocker.

6. Excellent hands.

Not sure what else this guy needs to do to demostrate that he's the man. There are numerous factors to suggest he is the man and virtually none to support any other conclusion.

Last week you said:

"I wasn't part of that thread, but I am reading basically the same sentiment from those who support Addai as those who think that MJD will eventually be the primary back in Jacksonville.

Both backs have reasons to like them, but I'm not buying a feature back story for either.

I wasn't sold on Addai's talent, and his value comes, IMHO, mostly from being a Colt. His situation warrants recognition in that he's the one and only RB in Indy as of this moment (and less than 72 hours before that changes) not counting DeDe Dorsey.

I didn't like Addai that much coming into 2006, and I still don't think he was a Top 5 rookie RB last year. I think MJD is better - but neither are true #1s. Both need a second hand / back in town.

I believe that there are 17 better RBs and 35 better players, long term, to own in non-PPR leagues for production over the next 4 seasons."

You may think there other's more talented but we both know that's only part of the analysis. At some point you're going to have to realize that he's the man and he's in a great situation. Like him or not, he's a top 7 RB easy. May even be top 5.

I can only hope that others share your opinion, because I don't believe Addai is worth a middle or early first round pick.

And I hope most of the people in my league feel the way you do, so I can steal him later.What I don't understand, is how people constantly make predictions based on their opinoin of a player, and when all their predictions continuously come out wrong, they refuse to adjust their view of the player. It's befuddling.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Any chance we could get the bye weeks in the rankings?

Why would you want bye weeks on DYNASTY list?

BECAUSE I do not want to have to keep going back and looking them up. Thanks for asking.

Here. 2007 schedule grid Print it. It will take only seconds to find a teams bye week

 

[LBH]

18 RB Joseph Addai, IND



Just yesterday I was thinking his value just moved up and I would have a hard time putting anyone not named LT2 or SJax in front of him. There could be a couple, but it wouldnt be by much at all. And then I see this?

Addai will be a stud in Indy, dont worry

 

[midnightxxxx]

I am surprised you have Vernon Davis below both Shockey and Heap. Granted this is initial rankings and things will change between now and the start of the season but talent and potential wise is no comparison between these 3. Also I have Gonzales in my own charts as being higher especially as he will be a main target this year with the Chiefs short shuttle passes and hopefully less blocking duties. I know father time is catching up with him but he should not be outside your top 5 TE in the game.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I know I'm one of those rookie lovers that it's cool to hate, but you would seriously pass on Peterson 35 times in an initial rookie draft?Reminds me of the Vincent Jackson thing from last year. If a guys has to SHOW something before he has any value to you, you will have missed the boat on ALL of the good rookies that go on to be studs.

I think that's defensible. He'd only be missing out on this particular class of rookies in favor of proven talent.

Anything's defensible if you are creative enough. Where would LT have been in his initial dynasty ranking? I guess my point is that if MOST of your rookies end up going UP in value the following year, you are ranking rookies too low.FOUR rookies from last year are currently above Peterson's ranking, and Peterson is much more highly regarded than any of them were coming into the draft. If you would have looked at those 4 rookies' rankings last year, most would have been in the 50s or 60s, and now they are all in top 25-30 (or higher). Did they all get that much better? No, they were all just under-ranked, just like Peterson is this year. Yes, some of them will bust - they always do. But people fail to realize that VETS "bust" too from time to time (for various reasons) and the risk of a rookie bust is usually more than countered by the upside.BTW, Jeff is bad for this IMO, but he is far from alone and I have a lot of respect for him because he thrown his stuff out there early and often and is not afraid of the bashings he knows he will receive.

I hear you loud and clear, and agree. I never saw his dynasty rankings from last year, but it would be interesting to see where he pegged last year's rookie RB crop in May 06 as compared to now. I tried to look at 06 dynasty rankings, but it forces me to the current one. I'd have Peterson and Lynch much higher as well. I'm like you in that I get excited about rookies though, so maybe we are in the minority.I was just trying to figure out what he was thinking, or how he'd make it work in a initial dynasty draft situation to more or less ignore the current bunch of rookies. Hopefully if Jeff has time, he can explain his reasoning behind ranking rookies a bit low compared to the rest?

 

[EBF]

I know I'm one of those rookie lovers that it's cool to hate, but you would seriously pass on Peterson 35 times in an initial rookie draft?Reminds me of the Vincent Jackson thing from last year. If a guys has to SHOW something before he has any value to you, you will have missed the boat on ALL of the good rookies that go on to be studs.

I think that's defensible. He'd only be missing out on this particular class of rookies in favor of proven talent.

Anything's defensible if you are creative enough. Where would LT have been in his initial dynasty ranking? I guess my point is that if MOST of your rookies end up going UP in value the following year, you are ranking rookies too low.FOUR rookies from last year are currently above Peterson's ranking, and Peterson is much more highly regarded than any of them were coming into the draft. If you would have looked at those 4 rookies' rankings last year, most would have been in the 50s or 60s, and now they are all in top 25-30 (or higher). Did they all get that much better? No, they were all just under-ranked, just like Peterson is this year. Yes, some of them will bust - they always do. But people fail to realize that VETS "bust" too from time to time (for various reasons) and the risk of a rookie bust is usually more than countered by the upside.BTW, Jeff is bad for this IMO, but he is far from alone and I have a lot of respect for him because he thrown his stuff out there early and often and is not afraid of the bashings he knows he will receive.

I don't understand the idea of waiting to upgrade highly-touted young players until after they show something. These guys are high picks for a reason. They're expected to play well. When they rush for 100 yards on 25 carries, it shouldn't be a big surprise. That's exactly what they're supposed to do. Does anyone really think Adrian Peterson won't come out and rip off a few huge games next year? As far as I'm concerned, you should expect it. He won't move up in my rankings at all if he comes out in week one and goes for 120+ and 2 TDs. He's a good player. He's expected to have those kind of games. I generally stay pretty firm with my judgments of players. Reggie Bush isn't much higher than he was last year and LenDale White isn't much lower. The only time I make an exception is when a guy truly stinks it up or when a guy comes out of nowhere and has a huge year (Colston). Not knocking Jeff here. I just think it's important to develop a strong opinion of a player's prospects before he hits the field.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Not knocking Jeff here. I just think it's important to develop a strong opinion of a player's prospects before he hits the field.

Its the only way to stay ahead of the curve.Same goes for forming strong opinions based on a limited sample size (see: Turner, Michael, Hackett, DJ)

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Not knocking Jeff here. I just think it's important to develop a strong opinion of a player's prospects before he hits the field.

Its the only way to stay ahead of the curve.Same goes for forming strong opinions based on a limited sample size (see: Turner, Michael, Hackett, DJ)

I'm heading out for the evening, but I've heard some compelling arguments about Lynch and ADP and am reconsidering my position.Whomever said "You'd wait 3 rounds to draft him" has me thinking quite hard. ADP will be likely rising overnight.