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[NorrisB]

Why is Brian Westbrook so high for non ppr, he's already fairly old dont you think?

Plus he hasnt made it through a full season in three years.

 

[Jedimaster21]

Wow pretty low for Peterson - do you see a full-fledged RBBC?

Low for Peterson, but even lower for Lynch, who is in a far better situation - better line, better QB, less competition.

I also think Lynch's ranking is a little low, but his situation is not better than Peterson's. Losman is hardly proven, Chester won't be much competition for Peterson, and Minnesota's line is much better than Buffalo's (it's really not even close). Plus, Childress has proven time and time again that he has a strong desire to pound the rock, and with their defense being very solid, he will be able to do just that.

I know I'm one of those rookie lovers that it's cool to hate, but you would seriously pass on Peterson 35 times in an initial rookie draft?Reminds me of the Vincent Jackson thing from last year. If a guys has to SHOW something before he has any value to you, you will have missed the boat on ALL of the good rookies that go on to be studs.

I think that's defensible. He'd only be missing out on this particular class of rookies in favor of proven talent.

Anything's defensible if you are creative enough. Where would LT have been in his initial dynasty ranking? I guess my point is that if MOST of your rookies end up going UP in value the following year, you are ranking rookies too low.FOUR rookies from last year are currently above Peterson's ranking, and Peterson is much more highly regarded than any of them were coming into the draft. If you would have looked at those 4 rookies' rankings last year, most would have been in the 50s or 60s, and now they are all in top 25-30 (or higher). Did they all get that much better? No, they were all just under-ranked, just like Peterson is this year. Yes, some of them will bust - they always do. But people fail to realize that VETS "bust" too from time to time (for various reasons) and the risk of a rookie bust is usually more than countered by the upside.BTW, Jeff is bad for this IMO, but he is far from alone and I have a lot of respect for him because he thrown his stuff out there early and often and is not afraid of the bashings he knows he will receive.

I don't understand the idea of waiting to upgrade highly-touted young players until after they show something. These guys are high picks for a reason. They're expected to play well. When they rush for 100 yards on 25 carries, it shouldn't be a big surprise. That's exactly what they're supposed to do. Does anyone really think Adrian Peterson won't come out and rip off a few huge games next year? As far as I'm concerned, you should expect it. He won't move up in my rankings at all if he comes out in week one and goes for 120+ and 2 TDs. He's a good player. He's expected to have those kind of games. I generally stay pretty firm with my judgments of players. Reggie Bush isn't much higher than he was last year and LenDale White isn't much lower. The only time I make an exception is when a guy truly stinks it up or when a guy comes out of nowhere and has a huge year (Colston). Not knocking Jeff here. I just think it's important to develop a strong opinion of a player's prospects before he hits the field.

You must form opinions about players early, and stick with those opinions until something occurs that changes a player's value. Just because Lendale didn't get the work last year, and Addai had an excellent season, doesn't mean that Addai is more talented than Lendale. The only reason that Peterson is unproven at the NFL level is because he is a rookie...as soon as he takes the field he will be one of the best in the NFL.

Not knocking Jeff here. I just think it's important to develop a strong opinion of a player's prospects before he hits the field.

Its the only way to stay ahead of the curve.Same goes for forming strong opinions based on a limited sample size (see: Turner, Michael, Hackett, DJ)

I'm heading out for the evening, but I've heard some compelling arguments about Lynch and ADP and am reconsidering my position.Whomever said "You'd wait 3 rounds to draft him" has me thinking quite hard. ADP will be likely rising overnight.

This is exactly why you will have very solid rankings by the start of the season. It is impossible to see all the angles without discussing rankings with others, and one must be willing to change their rankings if necessary. Good work here, Jeff...

 

[switz]

Was actually doing a search to see what I had thought of Benson coming in ( Ithink I thought well of him )

But I came across this, and thought it was valuable as some of the projections are coming out on the site, and it helps see how accurate some.. well one FBG was (or not)

This is not meant o be a knock on Jeff at all, I really think it is some good reading.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Was actually doing a search to see what I had thought of Benson coming in ( Ithink I thought well of him )But I came across this, and thought it was valuable as some of the projections are coming out on the site, and it helps see how accurate some.. well one FBG was (or not)This is not meant o be a knock on Jeff at all, I really think it is some good reading.

Bring me up to speed - what was good and bad here?We're trying to comment more on rankings this year and may even do a weekly commentary article (who's moving up / down).

 

[switz]

Was actually doing a search to see what I had thought of Benson coming in ( Ithink I thought well of him )But I came across this, and thought it was valuable as some of the projections are coming out on the site, and it helps see how accurate some.. well one FBG was (or not)This is not meant o be a knock on Jeff at all, I really think it is some good reading.

Bring me up to speed - what was good and bad here?We're trying to comment more on rankings this year and may even do a weekly commentary article (who's moving up / down).

I actually think that a lot of the feedback on the rankings in this thread was good... and I really liked that this year Henry, Tremblay and Woods opened up their rankings to criticism like you did before, and have made some adjustments based on the comments.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Was actually doing a search to see what I had thought of Benson coming in ( Ithink I thought well of him )But I came across this, and thought it was valuable as some of the projections are coming out on the site, and it helps see how accurate some.. well one FBG was (or not)This is not meant o be a knock on Jeff at all, I really think it is some good reading.

Bring me up to speed - what was good and bad here?We're trying to comment more on rankings this year and may even do a weekly commentary article (who's moving up / down).

I actually think that a lot of the feedback on the rankings in this thread was good... and I really liked that this year Henry, Tremblay and Woods opened up their rankings to criticism like you did before, and have made some adjustments based on the comments.

Oh ok.In general all feedback is good - just sometimes the phrasing / method is a problem ("I love Benson - you're an idiot" isn't helpful).Like I've said many times, feedback is welcome and it results in better understanding and/or rankings.