Dynasty Rankings (1 Viewer)

[wannabee]

These rankings are for PPR Dynasty leagues. Please let me know if anything stands out. I realize that I swim upstream on many players which will be good fodder for discussion.

The window I look at is not exact for me. But, on average, I use a 2-3 window for most of the rankings. If I see a young player that cannot (in my view) get to a certain tier, the time frame does not matter and I just make sure to rank accordingly.

I want to use the rankings as a vehicle for discussion. I will be happy to respond with reasoning to any questions.

 

[wannabee]

QBs:

Peyton Manning

Carson Palmer

Tom Brady

Mark Bulger

Drew Brees

Don McNabb

Vince Young

Michael Vick

Matt Leinart

Ben Roethlisberger

Matt Hasselbeck

Jay Cutler

Phillip Rivers

Eli Manning

Rex Grossman

Tony Romo

Matt Schaub

JP Losman

Jon Kitna

Jamarcus Russell

Jason Campbell

Alex Smith

Tarvaris Jackson

Byron Leftwich

Brett Favre

Jake Delhomme

Brady Quinn

Drew Stanton

Chad Pennington

D Culpepper

Steve McNair

D Huard

A Rodgers

J. Garcia

Trent Green

J Beck

B. Croyle

Joey Harrington

C Lemon

D. Anderson

D Garrard

Trent Edwards

Josh McCown

K Boller

David Carr

C Frye

K Kolb

C Simms

Quinn Gray

Kellen Clemens

S. Rosenfels

AJ Feeley

G. Frerotte

B Griese

Troy Smith

C. Batch

A Walter

 

[wannabee]

RBs:

Tomlinson

S Jackson

Reggie Bush

Larry Johnson

Brian Westbrook

Frank Gore

Willie Parker

Clinton Portis

MJ Drew

Joseph Addai

Laurence Maroney

Adrian Peterson

Willis McGahee

Ronnie Brown

Rudi Johnson

Kevin Jones

Cedric Benson

Travis Henry

Michael Turner

Shaun Alexander

Marshawn Lynch

M Barber III

DeAngelo Williams

Jerious Norwood

Deuce McAllister

Thomas Jones

Brandon Jacobs

Ahman Green

Edge James

Julius Jones

Vernand Morency

Carnell Williams

Brandon Jackson

Jamal lewis

Lamont Jordan

Ladell Betts

Leon Washington

Chester Taylor

Lorenzo Booker

Kenny Irons

Michael Bush

Mike Bell

LD White

R Droughns

Chris Henry

Tatum Bell

Chris Brown

Deshaun Foster

Fred Taylor

Adrian Peterson

Warrick Dunn

Ron Dayne

Sammy Morris

Michael Robinson

Garrett Wolfe

DeDe Dorsey

Dwayne Wright

Tony Hunt

Ahmad Bradshaw

Kolby Smith

Antonio Pittman

Dominic Rhodes

Ricky Williams

Maurice Hicks

Michael Bennett

Brian Leonard

Marcel Shipp

C Dillon

Kevan Barlow

C Buckhalter

Deshawn Wynn

Michael Pittman

Jerome Harrison

Kenny Watson

Greg Jones

Mewelde Moore

TJ Duckett

Musa Smith

A Thomas

N Davenport

Maurice Morris

Kenneth Darby

Kevin Faulk

Cedric Houston

Thomas Clayton

Dom Davis/Williams

Ciatrick Fason

Eric Shelton

Verron Haynes

Chris Perry

Wali Lundy

Chris Taylor

Noah Herron

Ryan Moats

 

[wannabee]

WRs:

Steve Smith

Reggie Wayne

Chad Johnson

Andre Johnson

Torry Holt

Larry Fitzgerald

Lee Evans

Anquan Boldin

Roy Williams

Calvin Johnson

TJ Housh

Javon Walker

Plaxico Burress

Marques Colston

Santana Moss

Donald Driver

Terrell Owens

Marvin Harrison

Mark Clayton

Hines Ward

Laveranues Coles

Deion Branch

Braylon Edwards

Jerricho Cotchery

Reggie Brown

Randy Moss

Darrell Jackson

DJ Hackett

Greg Jennings

Dwayne Bowe

Santonio Holmes

Brandon Marshall

Chris Chambers

Bernard Berrian

Dwayne Jarrett

Jerry Porter

Demetrius Williams

Vincent Jackson

Robert Meachem

Patrick Crayton

Joey Galloway

Terry Glenn

Sidney Rice

Brandon Jones

Ronald Curry

Anthony Gonzalez

K. Curtis

Reggie Williams

Jason Hill

Drew Carter

Donte Stallworth

Chris Henry

Troy Williamson

Muhsin Muhammad

Devery Henderson

Isaac Bruce

Steve Smith

Ted Ginn

D. Hagan

Matt Jones

Joe Horn

Michael Clayton

Drew Bennett

Chad Jackson

Andrae Allison

Jacoby Jones

E. Kennison

Amani Toomer

Derrick Mason

Joe Jurevicius

Nate Washington

Mike Furrey

Laurent Robinson

Arnaz Battle

Wes Welker

Hank Baskett

James Jones

Mark Bradley

Johnny Lee Higgins

Maurice Stovall

Bobby Wade

Antonio Bryant

Mike Walker

Jeff Webb

Terrence Copper

Michael Jenkins

Paul Williams

Isaiah Stanback

Malcolm Floyd

Bobby Engram

Marty Booker

Bryant Johnson

Travis Wilson

Tab Perry

Ashley Lelie

Domenick Hixon

Samie Parker

David Clowney

David Givens

Shaun McDonald

Ernest Wilford

Koren Robinson

Cedric Wilson

Mike Williams

Courtney Taylor

Eric Parker

Roddy White

Ruvell Martin

Randel El

Jason Avant

Brad Smith

Justin McCareins

Peerless Price

Sam Hurd

Billy McMullen

Sinorice Moss

Kevin Walter

Nate Burleson

Roscoe Parrish

Dallas Baker

Doug Gabriel

 

[joffer]

Rivers seems a little low

Grossman seems a LOT high

 

[wannabee]

TEs:

Antonio Gates

T. Gonzalez

Alge Crumpler

Todd Heap

Jeremy Shockey

C. Cooley

Kellen Winslow

Jason Witten

Ben Watson

Vernon Davis

LJ Smith

Owen Daniels

Heath Miller

Randy McMichael

Tony Scheffler

Greg Olsen

Dallas Clark

David Martin

V. Shiancoe

Marcedes Lewis

Zach Miller

Bo Scaife

Daniel Graham

Marcus Pollard

Desmond Clark

Alex Smith

Steve Heiden

Ben Troupe

Eric Johnson

Dave Thomas

Donald Lee

Bubba Franks

Chris Baker

Ben Utecht

Robert Royal

Jerramy Stevens

Leonard Pope

George Wrighster

Kris Wilson

 

[wannabee]

Rivers seems a little low

Grossman seems a LOT high

As I stated in the first post, I realize I swim upstream. My issue with Rivers is that I cannot see him getting up to the tier where many have him. I see him staying in that range without a ton of upside.Grossman I am very high on this year. Here is something I wrote on him in the wannabee thread about why I am high on him:

Rex Grossman – Rex Grossman is a Quarterback vilified by many Bears’ fans and fantasy owners for his performance down the stretch in 2006. Even with his poor performance in the last half of the 2006 season, Grossman finished as the fifteenth best Quarterback in fantasy production. I know that surprises many. In 2006, he was drafted as the thirty-fourth Quarterback in fantasy drafts and out-produced expectations by a wide margin. Last year was the only season that Grossman had started more than three games. He is still young and learning. He had twenty interceptions but is working hard to improve his fundamentals this offseason. One of his major problems in 2006 came from throwing off his back foot when there was pressure on the pocket. He is working on stepping up into the pocket to help correct these mistakes. Even though Grossman finished as QB15 last year, he is being drafted as QB26 so far in 2007. I expect Grossman to out-produce that ADP by a wide margin, maybe even enough to sneak into the top ten Quarterback range. The Bears drafted a pass-catching Tight End in Greg Olsen. They also get Mark Bradley back healthy and another year of experience for Bernard Berrian. Rex Grossman is the Quarterback who I have on all of my value lists in redraft and dynasty. He is a very solid QB2 on any and every fantasy team.

 

[numberSE7EN]

Kellen Winslow III seems low to me, I would put him 3rd. If the window is 2-3 years... I see Gates and Tony G as 1 and 2 like you have it. After them I see Winslow above Heap and Shockey for the next 2-3 years.

Winslow had 70-80 catches last year and played hurt most of the year. His team just added some (hopefully good) o-linemen, and Brady Quinn. As someone else on these boards said, the catches are the hard part, going from 3-5tds to 8+ tds is far easier than going from 30-40 cathes to 80+ cathes. Winslow already has shown he can push for the TE lead in receptions, now as the Browns hopefully get better on offense the TDs should increase.

Thanks for putting the effort into ranking all of these postions to the depth that you have!

 

[wannabee]

Kellen Winslow III seems low to me, I would put him 3rd. If the window is 2-3 years... I see Gates and Tony G as 1 and 2 like you have it. After them I see Winslow above Heap and Shockey for the next 2-3 years. Winslow had 70-80 catches last year and played hurt most of the year. His team just added some (hopefully good) o-linemen, and Brady Quinn. As someone else on these boards said, the catches are the hard part, going from 3-5tds to 8+ tds is far easier than going from 30-40 cathes to 80+ cathes. Winslow already has shown he can push for the TE lead in receptions, now as the Browns hopefully get better on offense the TDs should increase. Thanks for putting the effort into ranking all of these postions to the depth that you have!

My issues with Winslow have most to do with health. That microfracture surgery is a nasty one. These rankings will be fluid. If he shows to be healthy, I will move him up, especially since this is for PPR. I am not worried about the QB situation since it will most likely mirror 2006 for the majority of the year (predicting a Quinn holdout for a little while making him behind the curve).ETA: this is why Heiden is ranked as high as he is ranked.

 

[lions327]

Great work.

 

[lions327]

I didn't look too deep tonight, but the one who caught my eye right away was Vernon Davis. I personally see him a lot higher, and he had some impressive games at the end of last season. His upside is limitless. I personally have him 2nd in dynasties. I think he is a can't miss stud.

 

[cscmtp]

great job, but you left out Cooley on your TEs. He's top 5 for sure.

 

[wannabee]

I didn't look too deep tonight, but the one who caught my eye right away was Vernon Davis. I personally see him a lot higher, and he had some impressive games at the end of last season. His upside is limitless. I personally have him 2nd in dynasties. I think he is a can't miss stud.

I know many are very high on him. I see TE as a a position very dependent on many variables. I am sorry but I am not a big fan of the SF offense going forward like many others are. Does Davis have potential? Yes, very much so. But the ones ranked higher than Davis were because of proven ability in most cases. The others were due to situations I like better. I can see many thinking Davis should be ranked over Witten and Watson especially, but I like those two better in PPR leagues. I hope this answered the question ... thanks for the feedback.

 

[wannabee]

great job, but you left out Cooley on your TEs. He's top 5 for sure.

ouch. Fixed now. Thank you for the feedback. Please let me know if I missed anything else

 

[djb916420]

Great thread!

I really like your rankings of KJ and Turner.

Question about Andre Johnson....Is he #4 because of the transition from Carr to Shaub or just overall talent and upside? 100 receptions is gold in ppr but does he repeat?

Not disagreeing with u but I couldnt see myself taking him over Holt, Fitz, Evans or Roy Williams for that matter.

But overall great job!

 

[gianmarco]

Driver seems awfully low, especially when guys like Burress and S. Moss are ahead of him. I can see the possible reason of Favre retiring, but Driver is just a really, really good WR who runs fantastic routes and will get open no matter who is throwing him the ball. It's possible for WR's to still do well with bad QB's, i.e. Roy Williams (prior to 2005), Andre Johnson, and the Arizona guys before last year.

I know it's kinda splitting hairs and there are different preferences, but I'd take Driver over those 2 guys any day. Just curious what's the thinking about it. Do you not like Driver as much or do you see bigger things for the other 2?

 

[cscmtp]

I love your rankings. I think/hope DeAngelo would finish about 10-12 spots higher though. I definitely like him more than K Jones at this point.

 

[Patoons]

Wow - did you change your position on Jarrett? I'm surprised to see him ahead of Meachem in your rankings.... I recall you mentioning how Jarrett's ability to break the bump and run (see his game against C.Houston last year) concerned you a bunch.

 

[Q-Bert]

RBs:

Tomlinson
S Jackson
Reggie Bush
Larry Johnson
Brian Westbrook
Frank Gore
Willie Parker
Clinton Portis
MJ Drew
Joseph Addai
Laurence Maroney
Adrian Peterson
Willis McGahee
Ronnie Brown
Rudi Johnson

Kevin Jones
Cedric Benson
Travis Henry

Michael Turner
Shaun Alexander
Marshawn Lynch
M Barber III
DeAngelo Williams
Jerious Norwood
Deuce McAllister
Thomas Jones
Brandon Jacobs
Ahman Green
Edge James
Julius Jones

Vernand Morency
Carnell Williams
Brandon Jackson

First a caveat, I do not play in PPR leagues and so my judgement may be a bit skewed. However, the bolded players above really stood out to me.Kevin Jones - He is available for a song in my league and I am very conflicted about his value. His injury history scares me. With a two to three year window it is a huge hit for a guy to possibly miss the first half season in that time frame.

Michael Turner - I hope you are right but that seems a bit high for a guy who is a backup for year 1 and with no idea where he will be playing in years 2 and 3.

Carnell Williams - I can understand the argument for placing him low on the list. I can even understand the arguement for having one of the Packers RBBC guys ranked at a similar level. But to have him ranked basically the same as Morency and Brandon Jackson seems a bit extreem. I just don't see a scenario where both of those guys have similar value to Caddy.

 

[roarlions]

QB rankings based on 4 or 6 points per TD pass?

 

[wannabee]

Great thread! I really like your rankings of KJ and Turner.Question about Andre Johnson....Is he #4 because of the transition from Carr to Shaub or just overall talent and upside? 100 receptions is gold in ppr but does he repeat?Not disagreeing with u but I couldnt see myself taking him over Holt, Fitz, Evans or Roy Williams for that matter. But overall great job!

I can definitelt see another 100 catch season for Johnson. All indications from Texan camp have Schaub as an upgrade. The run game gets an upgrade. WR2 gets a downgrade from Moulds ... cannot believe I typed that I just see Johnson as a top 5 PPR WR most years. Also, I see no coincidence in Kubiak's arrival and AJ having a 100-catch season.Why he is ahead of:Holt - close. I really like Holt and the Ram offense but went with the younger WRFitz - Fitz is not a top 5 PPR WR, imo. The AZ offense will not be as pass-happy as when Green was there. Also, Boldin is a great WR1b.Evans - I think I have Evans higher than most everyone. I love Evans. But, in PPR, Evans will not get enough catches to close the gap on AJ.Roy - Many are higher on Roy than I am. He is a great talent. I am interested to see how Calvin and Furrey wil be used. Also, with PPR, Roy will have to get 90 catches or 10+ TDs to equal AJ most years so I think AJ is safer. Also, a worry for me with Roy is what happens if/when Martz leaves and Kitna is not the QB any longer?Thank you for the kind words.

 

[wannabee]

QB rankings based on 4 or 6 points per TD pass?

4 points per pass TD

 

[wannabee]

I love your rankings. I think/hope DeAngelo would finish about 10-12 spots higher though. I definitely like him more than K Jones at this point.

see my breakdown of the Panther Run game for reasoning on DWilliams.

 

[wannabee]

Driver seems awfully low, especially when guys like Burress and S. Moss are ahead of him. I can see the possible reason of Favre retiring, but Driver is just a really, really good WR who runs fantastic routes and will get open no matter who is throwing him the ball. It's possible for WR's to still do well with bad QB's, i.e. Roy Williams (prior to 2005), Andre Johnson, and the Arizona guys before last year.I know it's kinda splitting hairs and there are different preferences, but I'd take Driver over those 2 guys any day. Just curious what's the thinking about it. Do you not like Driver as much or do you see bigger things for the other 2?

I love Driver. I think I have him about whether most do, if not higher. I do expect Santana to have a very good season this year and he is still a young WR. On Plax, I expect the Giants to pass a ton with the absence of Tiki. But, let's remember that Driver is 32. He has a great relationship with Favre. I think expecting similar production post-Favre is overly ambitious.

 

[Blackjacks]

RBs:

Tomlinson

S Jackson

Reggie Bush

Larry Johnson

Brian Westbrook

Frank Gore

Willie Parker

Clinton Portis

MJ Drew

Joseph Addai

Laurence Maroney

Adrian Peterson

Willis McGahee

Ronnie Brown

Rudi Johnson

Kevin Jones

Cedric Benson

Travis Henry

Michael Turner

Shaun Alexander

Marshawn Lynch

M Barber III

DeAngelo Williams

Jerious Norwood

Deuce McAllister

Thomas Jones

Brandon Jacobs

Ahman Green

Edge James

Julius Jones

Vernand Morency

Carnell Williams

Brandon Jackson

Jamal lewis

Lamont Jordan

Ladell Betts

Leon Washington

Chester Taylor

Lorenzo Booker

Kenny Irons

Michael Bush

Mike Bell

LD White

R Droughns

Chris Henry

Tatum Bell

Chris Brown

Deshaun Foster

Fred Taylor

Adrian Peterson

Warrick Dunn

Ron Dayne

Sammy Morris

Michael Robinson

Garrett Wolfe

DeDe Dorsey

Dwayne Wright

Tony Hunt

Ahmad Bradshaw

Kolby Smith

Antonio Pittman

Dominic Rhodes

Ricky Williams

Maurice Hicks

Michael Bennett

Brian Leonard

Marcel Shipp

C Dillon

Kevan Barlow

C Buckhalter

Deshawn Wynn

Michael Pittman

Jerome Harrison

Kenny Watson

Greg Jones

Mewelde Moore

TJ Duckett

Musa Smith

A Thomas

N Davenport

Maurice Morris

Kenneth Darby

Kevin Faulk

Cedric Houston

Thomas Clayton

Dom Davis/Williams

Ciatrick Fason

Eric Shelton

Verron Haynes

Chris Perry

Wali Lundy

Chris Taylor

Noah Herron

Ryan Moats

 

[wannabee]

Wow - did you change your position on Jarrett? I'm surprised to see him ahead of Meachem in your rankings.... I recall you mentioning how Jarrett's ability to break the bump and run (see his game against C.Houston last year) concerned you a bunch.

Yes, you remember correctly, but that was before the Panthers cut Keyshawn. I am not a believer in Drew Carter the way others are. I see this as a great opportunity for Jarrett. I do worry about his beating the press coverage. Still a huge worry for me. On Meachem, the injuries and showing up out of shape made me bump him down some. My experience is that the more professional and discipline the rookie, the higher rate of success.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Great thread!

A few that stuck out -

Why Kitna so low?

Why DeShawn Wynn.... at all?

Could you go deeper into your McAllister ranking? Do you see him staying on the Saints, or go elsewhere and starting for a few years? Or do you not factor that sort of stuff into your rankings.

Thanks!

 

[wannabee]

RBs:

Tomlinson
S Jackson
Reggie Bush
Larry Johnson
Brian Westbrook
Frank Gore
Willie Parker
Clinton Portis
MJ Drew
Joseph Addai
Laurence Maroney
Adrian Peterson
Willis McGahee
Ronnie Brown
Rudi Johnson

Kevin Jones
Cedric Benson
Travis Henry

Michael Turner
Shaun Alexander
Marshawn Lynch
M Barber III
DeAngelo Williams
Jerious Norwood
Deuce McAllister
Thomas Jones
Brandon Jacobs
Ahman Green
Edge James
Julius Jones

Vernand Morency
Carnell Williams
Brandon Jackson

First a caveat, I do not play in PPR leagues and so my judgement may be a bit skewed. However, the bolded players above really stood out to me.Kevin Jones - He is available for a song in my league and I am very conflicted about his value. His injury history scares me. With a two to three year window it is a huge hit for a guy to possibly miss the first half season in that time frame.

Michael Turner - I hope you are right but that seems a bit high for a guy who is a backup for year 1 and with no idea where he will be playing in years 2 and 3.

Carnell Williams - I can understand the argument for placing him low on the list. I can even understand the arguement for having one of the Packers RBBC guys ranked at a similar level. But to have him ranked basically the same as Morency and Brandon Jackson seems a bit extreem. I just don't see a scenario where both of those guys have similar value to Caddy.

KJ was RB6 last year before injury. He caught 61 balls in 12 games. The reason I am high on KJ is that he is still 24 years old. MTurner was placed there because the RBs after him also have risk. It might be different risk, but I am a believer in Turner's talent.

I have been down on Caddy since his rookie year. In PPR leagues, it stinks having him yanked for Alstot and Pittman in situations where he could be earning the garbage points. Also, I see Caddy as a RB that needs many carries to get going and wear down the defense. The problem, as I see it, is that he wears down himself under the heavy workload. Morency and BJackson are more than adequate receivers. I know my rankings are different than most, but I think that is a good thing (unless I am wrong )

 

[RudeDog]

I really can't take this seriously when Kitna is ranked 19th - just above a rookie QB for a terrible offense.

 

[Blackjacks]

I really can't take this seriously when Kitna is ranked 19th - just above a rookie QB for a terrible offense.

Than stop reading it.Great job wannabeeyou know this dynasty right RudeDog?

 

[wannabee]

Great thread!A few that stuck out - Why Kitna so low?Why DeShawn Wynn.... at all?Could you go deeper into your McAllister ranking? Do you see him staying on the Saints, or go elsewhere and starting for a few years? Or do you not factor that sort of stuff into your rankings.Thanks!

I think most expect Kitna to play for the next two years in the Martz offense without missing starts. Whether it is late this year, or next, I expect the Lions to give Stanton a long look after eliminated from contention (week 5 ... sorry ). In addition, if/when Martz leaves, I cannot see Kitna keeping up the pace he has enjoyed. He was QB6 last year. I see that as his ceiling. The addition of Calvin should help, but the Lions will need a threat of a run game until KJ is back.DeShawn Wynn has to beat out Herron to make the team. He is a big tease. I just do not see him making a difference unless a couple of injuries. This does not include his injury history as a Gator. I like Deuce. I have him in a few leagues just because of value. I expect 1000-1200 total yards and 8-11 TDs in 2007. In 2008 and beyond, I can see him used on another team the way the Pats used Dillon. His skillset, like Dillon, is not dependent on a certain type of offense the way some RBs' are.

 

[wannabee]

I really can't take this seriously when Kitna is ranked 19th - just above a rookie QB for a terrible offense.

I am sorry you feel that way, but in most dynasty startups I have seen this offseason, Kitna goes after Russell and several others. Please check a couple posts up for reasoning on Kitna, whom I love for 2007 in redraft, just not as a top QB in dynasty.

 

[lions327]

I really can't take this seriously when Kitna is ranked 19th - just above a rookie QB for a terrible offense.

Than stop reading it.Great job wannabee

you know this dynasty right RudeDog?

 

[Blackjacks]

A ? for you wannabee. You have Rudi ranked #14 and Henry #17 and at first I thought that would have to do with age but after looking at it Johnson is only a year younger than Henry and I'd say he has taken alot more hits in the last couple of years. Plus he has a very talented (often injured) player behind him in Chris Perry and their new draft pick of Kenny Irons as where Henry has no one behind him at all. Not that I'm saying your wrong by any means I just want to know your justification for ranking Rudi 3 spots higher.

(plus Rudi lost Steinbach)

Again great work!!!!!!!

 

[wannabee]

as I stated in post 1, I want to use this as a forum for discussion. I am not "stuck" on any of these rankings and can be influenced to move a player up or down depending on reasoning. I know that there will be rankings that almost everyone disagrees with. That is cool. If you disagree, please let me know why and we can discuss.

 

[wannabee]

A ? for you wannabee. You have Rudi ranked #14 and Henry #17 and at first I thought that would have to do with age but after looking at it Johnson is only a year younger than Henry and I'd say he has taken alot more hits in the last couple of years. Plus he has a very talented (often injured) player behind him in Chris Perry and their new draft pick of Kenny Irons as where Henry has no one behind him at all. Not that I'm saying your wrong by any means I just want to know your justification for ranking Rudi 3 spots higher.(plus Rudi lost Steinbach)Again great work!!!!!!!

The Rudi ranking has to do with the receptions. Anyone that had Rudi as a RB1 in a PPR league will tell you that you need a better RB1. I say that because other RBs get the cheap 3-4 points a game from receptions that Rudi rarely sees. I think he averages a shade under 2 catches a game. I also like Irons, a lot. I think he could be the multi-dimensional runner many Bengal fans thought Perry would be. Also, Rudi's carry count the last 3.5 years worries me some. So, it is mixed reasoning and somewhat of a gut call. Since I think Rudi is a poor RB1, the RB14 ranking is basically saying he is a great RB2.On Henry, like many others I worry about the way Henry will be used in Denver. I love Henry in 2007. I have him as Rb10 in redraft (non-ppr). I just think the longer vantagepoint you look in the Denver run game, especially given Henry's age, you have to discount some.

 

[lions327]

I really can't take this seriously when Kitna is ranked 19th - just above a rookie QB for a terrible offense.

I am sorry you feel that way, but in most dynasty startups I have seen this offseason, Kitna goes after Russell and several others. Please check a couple posts up for reasoning on Kitna, whom I love for 2007 in redraft, just not as a top QB in dynasty.

These are dynasty rankings...they are not an exact science. I have Russell ahead of Kitna...but where you actually draft them in a startup depends on your draft and your goals. For example, if I have one of the top 5-6 QB's, then I would definitely take Russell over Kitna because Kitna will start this year, but beyond that it is questionable. On the other hand, I will use one of my recent drafts to make the opposite point. I decided to wait on taking a QB until later, and I wound up taking Kitna specifically to start this year. With no other QB's on my roster, there is no way I would make a rookie QB my first QB taken. But if you have a top QB, and want to build a solid long term core, then Russell is definitely the better pick. You can get a cheap backup for this year later.As you can see, circumstances dictate where you might actually select someone and shows that rankings are just a reference and not an exact order of where you would actually draft a player. This is why you see a lot of variations in rankings of different people.

 

[Gottabesweet]

this is money

your thoughts on laurent robinson

no JJ Arrington? I'd think one injury to edge and this kid gets another chance?

james jones vs. ruvel martin vs. clowney - your thoughts too

as well as the Titans WR's

 

[Chunky Soup]

Great stuff!

Are you going to split these in tiers?

Added commentary about each?

 

[wannabee]

this is moneyyour thoughts on laurent robinson no JJ Arrington? I'd think one injury to edge and this kid gets another chance?james jones vs. ruvel martin vs. clowney - your thoughts tooas well as the Titans WR's

last I read, Shipp had passed Arrington. I see no need for three Cardinal RBs. Sorry Laurent Robinson is probably a better option than I have given him credit for. The presence of Vick, but few other good receiving options creates a quandry for me. As a rule, I think rookie WRs are overrated since most need a few years to get going. My issue with Robinson is that I see a NFL WR2, not a WR1. That may not seem like a big difference, but it usually translates to fantasy as well because of targets/receptions.James Jones has emerged as the WR so far. I see this going a few different ways. I love Clowney's athletic ability, but he is still raw. Also, the situation still has Koren Robinson. Plus, I discounted the Packer WRs some projecting Favre's retirement after this season.

 

[cstu]

Mike Williams is about 20 spots too low, below a bunch of guys with little upside and will like never be more than a WR3 for your team.

 

[wannabee]

Great stuff! Are you going to split these in tiers? Added commentary about each?

I started on commentary when this was in the ACF, but it takes a long time. Tiers is a funny thing since we could all agree on a certain player being QB5, but I may have him as the last of a tier and some might have him as the top of tier 2. Mcnabb was this way for me. I have him as the bottom of the top tier due to discounting him because of the injuries. To me, he is a top tier dynasty QB.

 

[wannabee]

Mike Williams is about 20 spots too low, below a bunch of guys with little upside and will like never be more than a WR3 for your team.

how does Mike Williams differ from the assessment you just made about those above him? To me he offers little upside and is never going to be more than a WR3. If you disagree, please let me know why.

 

[Gottabesweet]

What about David Carr - maybe some value if he takes over for Delhomme

 

[Ed4252]

damn those rankings look decent

do you plan on doing one for IDPs??

 

[Couch Potato]

Geez Wannabee, what an idiot. There's no way a rookie WR for the Giants should be the #1 receiver.

Other than that, good job there, leaguemate buddy.

 

[lions327]

Geez Wannabee, what an idiot. There's no way a rookie WR for the Giants should be the #1 receiver. Other than that, good job there, leaguemate buddy.

 

[Gottabesweet]

watch out for NE RB Hairston - not on this list but could be the three option behind Maroney, K. Faulk.

 

[wannabee]

What about David Carr - maybe some value if he takes over for Delhomme

I have to say that I have Delhomme pegged as a dynasty buy low. I think he holds Carr off for atleast a year.

 

[wannabee]

damn those rankings look decentdo you plan on doing one for IDPs??

sorry. I am ignorant on IDPs. Need to defer to Bloom, Jene or Lions327