Resource for Dynasty TEP SF start-up ADP? (1 Viewer)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Anyone know a good online resource for dynasty ADP for SF TEP start-up?

I’ve found a couple of decent mocks, and one non-FBG mock draft tool— and I know I can use the FBG dominator app for mocks & customize to import my league settings.

But does any site post up start-up ADP for specific formats? Does FBG and I’m just not seeing it? I’ve seen discussion about MFL start-up ADP but not sure where to look for that.

Have a draft coming up & would love to start researching for the various draft slots.

TIA

 

[TheWinz]

Have you done any FantasyPros mocks? The settings allow for Dynasty, as well as positional requirements.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Have you done any FantasyPros mocks? The settings allow for Dynasty, as well as positional requirements.

I have not. I have done some with the mock tool at another site, and also FBG, but really just want to see ADP for real drafts.

Mock tools are a bit flawed. For example, FBG’s Dominator when synched with my new league (SF/TEP) picks Bowers 1.01 and then 12 straight QB, then McBride, then 15 more QB. I find that to be very unrealistic.
ETA: changed setting to dynasty, and it took 9 straight QB, then Chase, then 5 QB, then JJef, then 8 more QB.

I know there are ADP sites for redraft, I’m surprised it’s so hard to find one for start-up dynasty. I guess I could just look at the MFL draft room once our draft is set up. The player list sorts by ADP.

 

[barackdhouse]

Anyone know a good online resource for dynasty ADP for SF TEP start-up?

I’ve found a couple of decent mocks, and one non-FBG mock draft tool— and I know I can use the FBG dominator app for mocks & customize to import my league settings.

But does any site post up start-up ADP for specific formats? Does FBG and I’m just not seeing it? I’ve seen discussion about MFL start-up ADP but not sure where to look for that.

Have a draft coming up & would love to start researching for the various draft slots.

TIA

FFPC shares their ADP on their site...all of their stuff is TEP but specifically for SuperFlex startups here are a few screenshots of it I made just now...

https://x.com/Ship_Chaser/status/1941879704686088596

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Anyone know a good online resource for dynasty ADP for SF TEP start-up?

I’ve found a couple of decent mocks, and one non-FBG mock draft tool— and I know I can use the FBG dominator app for mocks & customize to import my league settings.

But does any site post up start-up ADP for specific formats? Does FBG and I’m just not seeing it? I’ve seen discussion about MFL start-up ADP but not sure where to look for that.

Have a draft coming up & would love to start researching for the various draft slots.

TIA

FFPC shares their ADP on their site...all of their stuff is TEP but specifically for SuperFlex startups here are a few screenshots of it I made just now...

https://x.com/Ship_Chaser/status/1941879704686088596

Thanks!

 

[barackdhouse]

Anyone know a good online resource for dynasty ADP for SF TEP start-up?

I’ve found a couple of decent mocks, and one non-FBG mock draft tool— and I know I can use the FBG dominator app for mocks & customize to import my league settings.

But does any site post up start-up ADP for specific formats? Does FBG and I’m just not seeing it? I’ve seen discussion about MFL start-up ADP but not sure where to look for that.

Have a draft coming up & would love to start researching for the various draft slots.

TIA

FFPC shares their ADP on their site...all of their stuff is TEP but specifically for SuperFlex startups here are a few screenshots of it I made just now...

https://x.com/Ship_Chaser/status/1941879704686088596

Thanks!

yep. and I would caution that in FFPC SF you start 2 WR 1 TE and 2FLEX and the reason I emphasize that is that soooooo many other formats require you to start 3 WR and that makes them different animals. plus the 2 flex is kind of a thing.

FFPC TriFlex starts 3 WR if that might be closer to what you need...

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

ADP Page - FFPC

The Home of High Stakes Fantasy Football

myffpc.com

For anyone looking.

Thanks again @barackdhouse!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC TriFlex starts 3 WR if that might be closer to what you need...

Mos def. Unfortunately I only see “standard, SuperFlex, slim” on the format drop-down.

 

[barackdhouse]

FFPC TriFlex starts 3 WR if that might be closer to what you need...

Mos def. Unfortunately I only see “standard, SuperFlex, slim” on the format drop-down.

oh yeah I see that. well it would be on the fantasymojo site but I mean basically jack up the WRs on the board up a small skosh here and there

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FBG draft dominator is kinda wonky. I went into settings and manually dropped QB values, and bumped up TE & WR values & it *still* drafts 19 straight QBs.

Things that would never happen in a real draft.

@Joe Bryant - whom would I contact for instructions on making the Dominator a bit more realistic for a startup dynasty mock?

 

[Joe Bryant]

FBG draft dominator is kinda wonky. I went into settings and manually dropped QB values, and bumped up TE & WR values & it *still* drafts 19 straight QBs.

Things that would never happen in a real draft.

@Joe Bryant - whom would I contact for instructions on making the Dominator a bit more realistic for a startup dynasty mock?

Always the best bet is going to www.footballguys.com/help and click the "Contact Support" button and they'll do their best to help.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FBG draft dominator is kinda wonky. I went into settings and manually dropped QB values, and bumped up TE & WR values & it *still* drafts 19 straight QBs.

Things that would never happen in a real draft.

@Joe Bryant - whom would I contact for instructions on making the Dominator a bit more realistic for a startup dynasty mock?

Always the best bet is going to www.footballguys.com/help and click the "Contact Support" button and they'll do their best to help.

That’s the one, thanks - I wasn’t positive if that was dominator as well. Much appreciated.

 

[Joe Bryant]

FBG draft dominator is kinda wonky. I went into settings and manually dropped QB values, and bumped up TE & WR values & it *still* drafts 19 straight QBs.

Things that would never happen in a real draft.

@Joe Bryant - whom would I contact for instructions on making the Dominator a bit more realistic for a startup dynasty mock?

Always the best bet is going to www.footballguys.com/help and click the "Contact Support" button and they'll do their best to help.

That’s the one, thanks - I wasn’t positive if that was dominator as well. Much appreciated.

Thanks. Yes, going to www.footballguys.com/help and click the "Contact Support" button is for help with anything we do.

We can't always solve it. But that's the best route to try.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Oooh, after playing with it more I managed to get realistic outputs

 

[Joe Bryant]

Oooh, after playing with it more I managed to get realistic outputs

Great. Have fun!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Oooh, after playing with it more I managed to get realistic outputs

Great. Have fun!

It’s still a little off but it’s not terrible. It would be a great addition if it used ADP instead of the default algo’s.

 

[Simon Shepherd]

hey @Hot Sauce Guy , it does use ADP out the box, but if you add a new rankings profile (ie, anything under the wrench menu above the players list), the only way we can support modifying rankings based on advanced VBD tweaks is to base that off projections. Since ADP doesn't come in that format, at that point, rankings become based on our projections and not ADP.

But, you can edit rankings within the rankings profile to make it as much like ADP as you need.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

hey @Hot Sauce Guy , it does use ADP out the box, but if you add a new rankings profile (ie, anything under the wrench menu above the players list), the only way we can support modifying rankings based on advanced VBD tweaks is to base that off projections. Since ADP doesn't come in that format, at that point, rankings become based on our projections and not ADP.

But, you can edit rankings within the rankings profile to make it as much like ADP as you need.

That’s awesome, thanks so much. How would one reset it to the default if one already tweaked it? Just go to the profiles and click on reset?

I’m looking forward to playing with it some more - at this point I have it pretty close to what seems realistic.

Q: is it using MFL ADP, or some other ADP? (My league is MFL, so that’s what my leaguemates will be using)

Really appreciate your taking the time!

 

[Simon Shepherd]

hey @Hot Sauce Guy , it does use ADP out the box, but if you add a new rankings profile (ie, anything under the wrench menu above the players list), the only way we can support modifying rankings based on advanced VBD tweaks is to base that off projections. Since ADP doesn't come in that format, at that point, rankings become based on our projections and not ADP.

But, you can edit rankings within the rankings profile to make it as much like ADP as you need.

That’s awesome, thanks so much. How would one reset it to the default if one already tweaked it? Just go to the profiles and click on reset?

I’m looking forward to playing with it some more - at this point I have it pretty close to what seems realistic.

Q: is it using MFL ADP, or some other ADP? (My league is MFL, so that’s what my leaguemates will be using)

Really appreciate your taking the time!

Happy to help!

The only profile that uses ADP is the one called "Default AutoDraft". All the others are projections powered and would need adjustments to the "Edit Players" feature to make the projections they use more ADP-flavoured.

The ADP used is according to wherever the league is hosted. So if you import an MFL league, it'll use MFL ADP.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

hey @Hot Sauce Guy , it does use ADP out the box, but if you add a new rankings profile (ie, anything under the wrench menu above the players list), the only way we can support modifying rankings based on advanced VBD tweaks is to base that off projections. Since ADP doesn't come in that format, at that point, rankings become based on our projections and not ADP.

But, you can edit rankings within the rankings profile to make it as much like ADP as you need.

That’s awesome, thanks so much. How would one reset it to the default if one already tweaked it? Just go to the profiles and click on reset?

I’m looking forward to playing with it some more - at this point I have it pretty close to what seems realistic.

Q: is it using MFL ADP, or some other ADP? (My league is MFL, so that’s what my leaguemates will be using)

Really appreciate your taking the time!

Happy to help!

The only profile that uses ADP is the one called "Default AutoDraft". All the others are projections powered and would need adjustments to the "Edit Players" feature to make the projections they use more ADP-flavoured.

The ADP used is according to wherever the league is hosted. So if you import an MFL league, it'll use MFL ADP.

Thank you. If I’ve already messed around with the settings and want to return it to default, what’s the easiest way to do that?

 

[Simon Shepherd]

hey @Hot Sauce Guy , it does use ADP out the box, but if you add a new rankings profile (ie, anything under the wrench menu above the players list), the only way we can support modifying rankings based on advanced VBD tweaks is to base that off projections. Since ADP doesn't come in that format, at that point, rankings become based on our projections and not ADP.

But, you can edit rankings within the rankings profile to make it as much like ADP as you need.

That’s awesome, thanks so much. How would one reset it to the default if one already tweaked it? Just go to the profiles and click on reset?

I’m looking forward to playing with it some more - at this point I have it pretty close to what seems realistic.

Q: is it using MFL ADP, or some other ADP? (My league is MFL, so that’s what my leaguemates will be using)

Really appreciate your taking the time!

Happy to help!

The only profile that uses ADP is the one called "Default AutoDraft". All the others are projections powered and would need adjustments to the "Edit Players" feature to make the projections they use more ADP-flavoured.

The ADP used is according to wherever the league is hosted. So if you import an MFL league, it'll use MFL ADP.

Thank you. If I’ve already messed around with the settings and want to return it to default, what’s the easiest way to do that?

the best thing to do would be to change each team back to the "Default AutoDraft" profile

If you want to start afresh on a new, customized, rankings profile, I would create a brand new rankings profile and move all the other teams over to use that new profile.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

hey @Hot Sauce Guy , it does use ADP out the box, but if you add a new rankings profile (ie, anything under the wrench menu above the players list), the only way we can support modifying rankings based on advanced VBD tweaks is to base that off projections. Since ADP doesn't come in that format, at that point, rankings become based on our projections and not ADP.

But, you can edit rankings within the rankings profile to make it as much like ADP as you need.

That’s awesome, thanks so much. How would one reset it to the default if one already tweaked it? Just go to the profiles and click on reset?

I’m looking forward to playing with it some more - at this point I have it pretty close to what seems realistic.

Q: is it using MFL ADP, or some other ADP? (My league is MFL, so that’s what my leaguemates will be using)

Really appreciate your taking the time!

Happy to help!

The only profile that uses ADP is the one called "Default AutoDraft". All the others are projections powered and would need adjustments to the "Edit Players" feature to make the projections they use more ADP-flavoured.

The ADP used is according to wherever the league is hosted. So if you import an MFL league, it'll use MFL ADP.

Thank you. If I’ve already messed around with the settings and want to return it to default, what’s the easiest way to do that?

the best thing to do would be to change each team back to the "Default AutoDraft" profile

If you want to start afresh on a new, customized, rankings profile, I would create a brand new rankings profile and move all the other teams over to use that new profile.

Thanks again, again. I’m gonna have to dive into a couple of those videos to learn how to properly customize it so it better replicates what people might do in my real draft. I love the tool, but it’s kind of a bear to adjust.

 

[Simon Shepherd]

I agree, it's a result of features being added to the tool after its original build and struggling to get them to work with the setup of the app. It quickly gets to "anything is possible, but everything is fiddly" territory, especially with the UI design being first for mobile. Modernizing this is on the roadmap!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I agree, it's a result of features being added to the tool after its original build and struggling to get them to work with the setup of the app. It quickly gets to "anything is possible, but everything is fiddly" territory, especially with the UI design being first for mobile. Modernizing this is on the roadmap!

Yeah, I’d love to have a simple interface where I could check a box for “use MFL ADP” with a date range of drafts (a critical component).

Would also be nice have sliders to place greater positional emphasis on WR, TE or whatever my league uses rather than the baseline points, etc. If I understand it correctly it’s a little counter-intuitive that if I slide the WR bar to a bigger number, I’ll see fewer WR because it’s based on projected points scored (at least I think that’s what I’m doing?)

Would much rather have intuitive adjustments, and ones that didn’t supersede ADP.

My league will likely draft 3-5 QB, then Chase/JJ, then a few QB, then Bowers, then Puka, then McBride, then QB, Bijan, Jeanty/Gibbs, etc. It seems like with the adjustments I either see Bowers/McBride as top 5 picks, or not until the late 2nd round. And the default seems to be 17-18 straight QBs, which of course isn’t at all realistic.

Gonna dive in later today when I have some more time but I really appreciate your help here.

 

[Simon Shepherd]

Yes, I agree with what you're saying @Hot Sauce Guy

I'm sure you'll spare me a moment to say that we do support more here than any other draft app here also. I don't know that any of the other apps even have dynasty rankings, let alone mock drafts for them.

What you want is possible, it just takes a lot of tweaking.

When editing positions, it depends on if you want to use VBD or the standard position adjusters. The standard adjusters going up mean that position goes up the rankings.

But with the VBD baselines, the baselines going up means that positions' players going down the rankings.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm sure you'll spare me a moment to say that we do support more here than any other draft app here also. I don't know that any of the other apps even have dynasty rankings, let alone mock drafts for them.

Oh no question - not bashing DD at all. It’s the best tool I’ve ever used for drafting, and certainly the most customizable. It’s among the many reasons I feel FBG is the best FF site.

Honestly my struggles are more user-error. I’m not a big fan of instructional videos, as I prefer the written word for things like that, so I haven’t done my due diligence to watch everything available to learn to truly take advantage. That’s on me.

But no doubt DD, and the personal support you’re providing right now are the best in the business.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

When editing positions, it depends on if you want to use VBD or the standard position adjusters. The standard adjusters going up mean that position goes up the rankings.

But with the VBD baselines, the baselines going up means that positions' players going down the rankings.

Last Q: do these have to be set individually for each of the 12 team profiles to result in a realistic mock?

ETA: disregard. I think I nailed it - just did some fine-tuning, set the values to “copy for all profiles”, and voila - looks a LOT like what my league-mates would do in a real draft.

 

[Simon Shepherd]

awesome glad you were able to get there @Hot Sauce Guy !

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

awesome glad you were able to get there @Hot Sauce Guy !

It’s crazy how sensitive it is. Definitely needs to be adjusted with a scalpel rather than a machete.