Dynasty-- Rookie trade values (1 Viewer)

[jeter23]

I remember reading in wannabee's strategy thread in the ACF about the value of rookies (specifically rookie RBs) being very high during their first season, but then dropping quite a bit in their sophomore season when they are asked to do a little more. I thought this was a very good point.

Now I am wondering what some of you are giving up for these rookies that are playing so well and exceeding expectations.

 

[EBF]

I wouldn't recommend going after any of those guys right now. They're simply not worth the price tag. Maroney had one big game and suddenly his owners acted like he was untouchable. It happens every single year without fail.

The best rookies to target are the early draft picks who haven't received much hype or have failed to meet expectations. Guys like Holmes, Hagan, Lewis, Calhoun, Jackson, Clemens, and possibly even Bush would be nice pickups right about now.

 

[broncofan13000]

I remember reading in wannabee's strategy thread in the ACF about the value of rookies (specifically rookie RBs) being very high during their first season, but then dropping quite a bit in their sophomore season when they are asked to do a little more. I thought this was a very good point.Now I am wondering what some of you are giving up for these rookies that are playing so well and exceeding expectations.

I was an owner of MJD and Leon Washington and tried to move them as soon as i thought their value peaked. Teams that are out of it love the taste of rookie RB's.

 

[wannabee]

I thnk Norwood would be the guy I owuld be targetting. Dunn will be 32 years old in a couple of months. The Falcons traded Duckett away. I would think that Norwood's value might skyrocket soon. I would want to know how his knee ding turns out first, but he might be the best "value" of the group. DWilliams would be my second choice since he is now coming back from injury and his owner might be too antsy.

 

[thatguy]

About a month ago I moved MJD and Roy Williams for Carson Palmer and Alge Crumpler in a dynasty where I was very much in need of a QB and a TE. I've lately started to think it was a bad deal for me, but oh well.

The guy in my league who owns Maroney considers him more or less untouchable. At this point, I think he values him among the likes of SJax, Ronnie, and Portis.

I agree with Wannabee that Williams would be a good guy to target. His pricetag is substanially lower than Maroney's, and probably quite a bit lower than MJD's as well, but he could have a very bright future. Unlike Maroney, he is on a team that will likely feature him as soon as next season. Maroney is an unbelievable talent but has been a role player this season and given Belichek's history, I'm not sure why everyone is so sure that will change anytime soon.

I own Jennings and am hesitant to entertain offers because I doubt they'd be to my liking. I'm honestly not sure what his value currently is in dynasties given the uncertainty of Favre's future, and I think most owners feel the same way, so wouldn't likely offer up fair compensation. The thought of Aaron Rodgers throwing to him isn't very enticing.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Yeah Maroney has a LT price tag on him...One owner asked me for ROY ADDAI and a possibile 1.01 (top 3 lock) pick for Maroney A.bryant

 

[EBF]

LenDale, DeAngelo, and Norwood are the rookie RB value plays right now.

talent + opportunity = production

talent - opportunity = value

 

[thatguy]

I also view LenDale as a good guy to target. I began talks with the LenDale onwer in my dynasty league hoping to get him on the cheap, but he was asking for Ronnie Brown and wouldn't budge. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. I offered Thomas Jones (not sure I'd have done it but I was trying to get a feel for just how high he valued LenDale) and he scoffed at the offer.

That said, this guy is pretty irrational in his valuations of his own players, so in most leagues he can likely be had for cheaper.

 

[The Man With No Name]

I traded Droughns for Norwood after week 2. I had 4 starters and the best the other owner had was Dillon and Rhodes.

 

[Redmen62]

As for Leon, I just traded him for Mark Clayton and Jeff Wilkins (Kicker being a big hole in my otherwise solid roster as I make a championship push). He was a throw in in a deal I made before his 129/2 game. Thanks for the memories, LW.

 

[Hendo]

I also view LenDale as a good guy to target. I began talks with the LenDale onwer in my dynasty league hoping to get him on the cheap, but he was asking for Ronnie Brown and wouldn't budge. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. I offered Thomas Jones (not sure I'd have done it but I was trying to get a feel for just how high he valued LenDale) and he scoffed at the offer.That said, this guy is pretty irrational in his valuations of his own players, so in most leagues he can likely be had for cheaper.

no offense but if u came to me with an offer for White and was offering TJ i woulda laughed too in a dynasty league. no offense to TJ but hes alot older then LenDale

 

[jeter23]

As for Leon, I just traded him for Mark Clayton and Jeff Wilkins (Kicker being a big hole in my otherwise solid roster as I make a championship push). He was a throw in in a deal I made before his 129/2 game. Thanks for the memories, LW.

I'll answer my own question here. I moved Leon and a 3rd for Lee Evans in a PPR dynasty league. My WRs had really disappointed (MJones, Edwards) and I don't think Washington is the longterm answer in NY.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I also view LenDale as a good guy to target. I began talks with the LenDale onwer in my dynasty league hoping to get him on the cheap, but he was asking for Ronnie Brown and wouldn't budge. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. I offered Thomas Jones (not sure I'd have done it but I was trying to get a feel for just how high he valued LenDale) and he scoffed at the offer.That said, this guy is pretty irrational in his valuations of his own players, so in most leagues he can likely be had for cheaper.

no offense but if u came to me with an offer for White and was offering TJ i woulda laughed too in a dynasty league. no offense to TJ but hes alot older then LenDale

I'd say they're pretty equal, value-wise, myself.

 

[jeter23]

14 team PPR dynasty

Gave Frank Gore

Got Maroney and a 2007 1st (should be late)

We can only start 2 Rbs and I already have Westy, Portis and FWP.

My thinking when starting this thread was that now is not the time to try and get any of these rookies, but I think this was a good deal for my team, longterm.

 

[rhawkins68]

I wouldn't recommend going after any of those guys right now. They're simply not worth the price tag. Maroney had one big game and suddenly his owners acted like he was untouchable. It happens every single year without fail.The best rookies to target are the early draft picks who haven't received much hype or have failed to meet expectations. Guys like Holmes, Hagan, Lewis, Calhoun, Jackson, Clemens, and possibly even Bush would be nice pickups right about now.

Excellent suggestion. You left off Si. Moss who I just picked up a few weeks ago. I also like D. Williams for long term leagues.

 

[pyite76]

10 team dynasty trade, w/IDP (start 10 Offense, 10 Defense) no PPR

I traded:

Jerious Norwood

Matt Jones

Bob Sanders

Aaron Brooks

Andrew Walter

John Abraham

3rd round rookie pick in 2007

for

Chad Johnson

Santonio Holmes

Antoine Bethea

Kellen Clemens

2nd round rookie pick in 2007

My WR corps just blows this year, with not many prospects for the future either besides Jennings. I had RB depth/youth with LT/M. Turner/ Caddy/ Edgerrin so I felt I could give up on Norwood for now. He's no good to me until next year at best anyway.

But it does hurt to see him go.

 

[-OZ-]

I traded Jennings for a 2007 pick that should yield one of Lynch, Calvin Johnson or Kenny Irons (top 4 pick, not #1) and a 2008 1st rounder that should be late.

I wasn't going to start him too often, if at all the rest of the season and don't love his FF potential next year. Without young depth, I wouldn't have traded him. (We start 4, I have Hines Ward, Javon Walker, Lee Evans, Roy Williams, Braylon Edwards and Matt Jones.)

Honestly, I probably gave him up cheap, but if that pick yields Lynch or CJ, I'll be pleased.

 

[jeter23]

I traded Jennings for a 2007 pick that should yield one of Lynch, Calvin Johnson or Kenny Irons (top 4 pick, not #1) and a 2008 1st rounder that should be late.I wasn't going to start him too often, if at all the rest of the season and don't love his FF potential next year. Without young depth, I wouldn't have traded him. (We start 4, I have Hines Ward, Javon Walker, Lee Evans, Roy Williams, Braylon Edwards and Matt Jones.)Honestly, I probably gave him up cheap, but if that pick yields Lynch or CJ, I'll be pleased.

I think getting 2 1st rounders is pretty good value.

 

[wannabee]

I thnk Norwood would be the guy I owuld be targetting. Dunn will be 32 years old in a couple of months. The Falcons traded Duckett away. I would think that Norwood's value might skyrocket soon. I would want to know how his knee ding turns out first, but he might be the best "value" of the group. DWilliams would be my second choice since he is now coming back from injury and his owner might be too antsy.

As a follow up, I offered a 2007 1st and a 3rd for Norwood and was rejected. I expected so, but wanted to test the waters. The owner has Maroney, too, and sees the Norwood/Maroney combo as his future.

 

[Patoons]

I thnk Norwood would be the guy I owuld be targetting. Dunn will be 32 years old in a couple of months. The Falcons traded Duckett away. I would think that Norwood's value might skyrocket soon. I would want to know how his knee ding turns out first, but he might be the best "value" of the group. DWilliams would be my second choice since he is now coming back from injury and his owner might be too antsy.

As a follow up, I offered a 2007 1st and a 3rd for Norwood and was rejected. I expected so, but wanted to test the waters. The owner has Maroney, too, and sees the Norwood/Maroney combo as his future.

I had offered (earlier in the season mind you) - Bruce, Rhodes and Gabriel for Norwood... no dice.

 

[thatguy]

I also view LenDale as a good guy to target. I began talks with the LenDale onwer in my dynasty league hoping to get him on the cheap, but he was asking for Ronnie Brown and wouldn't budge. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. I offered Thomas Jones (not sure I'd have done it but I was trying to get a feel for just how high he valued LenDale) and he scoffed at the offer.That said, this guy is pretty irrational in his valuations of his own players, so in most leagues he can likely be had for cheaper.

no offense but if u came to me with an offer for White and was offering TJ i woulda laughed too in a dynasty league. no offense to TJ but hes alot older then LenDale

Like I said it was just my way of gauging how he ranks LenDale. I don't think it's a laughable offer by any means, as TJ has proven he has top 10 RB potential. LenDale has proven nothing. The age difference is substantial, but that's what I felt made it a fairly even offer. If TJ was 24 or 25, I wouldn't even consider the deal. Anyway, I just posted that so others here might have some idea on how LenDale owners are likely to value him.

 

[Beaumont]

I did this last week, but there are so many other players involved its hard to guage how Leon exactly fits:

* Beaumont Roughnecks gave up Bulger, Marc STL QB;Fitzpatrick, Ryan STL QB;Jackson, Darrell SEA WR;Little, Leonard STL DE;Crowder, Channing MIA LB

* NW Indiana Slickwillies gave up Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB;Wallace, Seneca SEA QB;Washington, Leon NYJ RB;Walker, Javon DEN WR;Jenkins, Kris CAR DT;Gold, Ian DEN LB