Dynasty Stash RB's (1 Viewer)

[eefflrat]

It's slim pickings out there for waiver wire dynasty RB stashes.

Who are the guys that might be available on your waiver wire that could see some time this year, or may see an option in the future.

In my 12 team league generally 5-6 RBs are rostered per team so there are some guys available. Here are some guys I could target and why:

Woodhead, Vereen, Ridley---Crazy as it sounds all 3 are available in my league, no one wants to touch these guys. Ridley and Vereen were drafted in the first 3 rounds, these guys might see some touches this year but who is the long term grab?

Donald Brown---not looking like he is going to get a shot with the colts, but if Addai went down he could see some 3rd down work. Could he be a trade candidate, or released next season. He has a first round pedigree

Slaton---buried on the depth chart in Houston there was a time when this guy showed some serious skills. He's still young, maybe a trade, or FA pickup?

McKnight---I'm personally starting to wonder if Shonn Greene is going to accomplish anything as a pro. Not to mention Greene is 26 years old (albeit limited touches). McKnight has looked good in his time, but is he an option if Green continues to flutter or if LT gets hurt?

Ryan Williams---Next year...anything???

I'd like some input on others or if there is another thread with this topic link me. Thanks guys

 

[beerbarron]

A lot of who is available depends on your Dynast roster size and starting requirements..

Delone Carter looks like he is pushing for PT in the colts backfield..

McKnight and maybe Bilal Powell might be a good dynasty Jet stash..

Is Kendal Hunter SF still available?

 

[King of the Jungle]

I am in a 12 team (18 man rosters) and scooped up Dion Lewis and Kendall Hunter. Don't know if I will be able to hold them long enough with the low roster limit, but will probably end up having to choose between. Ridley also available.

 

[AngryPatriot]

Woodhead is a guy to own now, he will be productive. RWilliams and Mikel LeShoure could be good stashes as could the Jets rb's but that situation is unclear. Greene has looked good before, like in the playoffs so he's not done. Maybe "waiting in the wings" guys like Bernard Scott or Hunter are worthy, esp as handcuffs. Keep an eye on Helu, DLewis, Hunter, Carter, Johnny White... Kind of slim pickins though. Teams like Seattle, Indy, Az., Cinci etc could all need help sooner rather than later due to age, poor play...

 

[Restricted]

12teamer? What is the roster size, 7? Depending on who you'd have to cut, both NE rooks and Williams belong on rosters.

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[Dr. Octopus]

Woodhead, Vereen, Ridley---Crazy as it sounds all 3 are available in my league, no one wants to touch these guys. Ridley and Vereen were drafted in the first 3 rounds, these guys might see some touches this year but who is the long term grab?

I don't mean this as a slam, I'm just curious as to what size rosters you have. I'm in 3 dynasty leagues (two 25 man and one 30) and all three are rostered in each.Danny Woodhead is very curious as he looks to be the lead back or at least a guy that will see serious playing time. Some one needs to snap him up quick.

 

[Londo]

12-teamer with 26 total roster spots.

I just picked up Johnny White as a long term stash. I got him for free, so there is little risk, and I won't need a bye week kicker or DST for quite a while so I have some time to see if he develops into anything worth hanging onto.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Danny Woodhead is very curious as he looks to be the lead back or at least a guy that will see serious playing time. Some one needs to snap him up quick.

Not really. He's never going to be more than what he is now. He scored 6 to 8.5 points last week depending on your format and that was on a high utilization day. In a 2RB league he is a desperation play and will never be more than that. I would much rather own Vereen or Ridley even though they're doing nothing anytime soon.Donald Brown and Slaton are toast, don't touch them.McKnight could be a short term option and I would roster him if he's free. I don't think Powell is ready to step in or necessarily any better than McKnight.Ryan Williams should be owned in (almost) all leagues. PCLs are worse than ACLs but he's young enough it could still happen for him.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Danny Woodhead is very curious as he looks to be the lead back or at least a guy that will see serious playing time. Some one needs to snap him up quick.

Not really. He's never going to be more than what he is now. He scored 6 to 8.5 points last week depending on your format and that was on a high utilization day. In a 2RB league he is a desperation play and will never be more than that. I would much rather own Vereen or Ridley even though they're doing nothing anytime soon.

I don't own him in any league but you're selling Woodhead short here. He's capable of scoring TD(s) some weeks (he scored 6 TDs last year in basically 13 games since he didn't really play the first two weeks and the Pats sat him Week 17) to add to those 6-8 points and who is to say that will be his maximum usage. Pats were throwing at will last week. I guess it depends on league format as well, as in a ppr league he'll add to that point total some weeks as well.I understand the theory that Vereen or Ridley could have more upside and sometimes the unknown makes more sense - but it discounts the fact that this is only Woodhead's second year starting and playing in that system and that he has potential upside as well. I agree that he's not an every week starter at this point, but he is a good bye week player and sometimes you need "desperation plays" when injuries hit. Which of the three I'd rather roster would probably be based on the makeup of the rest of my roster - but it's really not a given that Vereen is any more talented than Woodhead. Woodhead has elite level speed (was fastest guy at his combine), has shown an ability to run inside and gain tough yards and when he lines up outside he can run routes and has the hands of a slot WR. Right now he has the trust of Belichick as well, which shouldn't be discounted.What about his game do you think caps his upside?

 

[Crippler]

What about a guy like Derai Scott for the NYG. Jacobs is kind of pushing the end of his time and could this guy replace him especially if the Giants struggle. Add in Bradshaw does get hurt.

16 team 24 man O rosters so most of these guys are rostered

Jordan Todman, Derai Scott, Lance Ball, Leon Washington, Allen Bradford, Jeremiah JOhnson or Chad Spann would be the best pickup at this point.

Out of these I like Scott and will make a play

 

[_lurker_]

What about a guy like Derai Scott for the NYG. Jacobs is kind of pushing the end of his time and could this guy replace him especially if the Giants struggle. Add in Bradshaw does get hurt. 16 team 24 man O rosters so most of these guys are rosteredJordan Todman, Derai Scott, Lance Ball, Leon Washington, Allen Bradford, Jeremiah JOhnson or Chad Spann would be the best pickup at this point. Out of these I like Scott and will make a play

Todman must be a pretty good RB cuz he was inactive last week... I take that to mean that he doesn't offer much on special teams, so he must have some potential or they'd cut him, yeah? I think the opposite for Lance Ball... good special teamer who could get passed by Jeremiah Johnson who could be activated from the practice squad or even another guy off the street. I've been a fan of Leon's for a while, so if he's 100% recovered from that nasty leg break, he's a nice option.

 

[thriftyrocker]

What about his game do you think caps his upside?

The fact that Evil Bill drafted 2 RBs in the first 3 rounds the year after they signed Woodhead. He's a good draw play RB and serviceable receiver out of the backfield, and in NE that gives him some value because they run shotgun so much. I don't see him lining up in a pro style and running between the tackles. How many attempts has Woodhead even gotten in that role? That's what BJGE is for. And going forward Vereen and Ridley should be able do that. He's in an ideal situation now - a team that runs shotgun/spread so much - he wouldn't be as good in another situation and his situation might get reduced if Vereen and Ridley catch on.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Dion Lewis Dion Lewis Dion lewis

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Man, not a single one of these guys mentioned so far is available in either of my leagues. Deeep benches. In one, the best young bench stash on the ww is probably Jay Finley. Yeah. Guys like Armond Smith, Antone Smith, and Gartrell Johnson are all rostered.

 

[eefflrat]

12teamer? What is the roster size, 7? Depending on who you'd have to cut, both NE rooks and Williams belong on rosters. P.S. IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT THE SHARK POOLThreads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in The Assistant Coach forum.

Actually, I'm not asking for team advice. Just trying to get a gauge on guys that could be on waiver wires that could be rostered for dynasty leagues. My league is a 12 team league, but I didn't get into specifics about my league because I didn't want to make it who should I pick up.I named a few names, but I gave examples of why they might go on a roster.

 

[eefflrat]

Woodhead, Vereen, Ridley---Crazy as it sounds all 3 are available in my league, no one wants to touch these guys. Ridley and Vereen were drafted in the first 3 rounds, these guys might see some touches this year but who is the long term grab?

I don't mean this as a slam, I'm just curious as to what size rosters you have. I'm in 3 dynasty leagues (two 25 man and one 30) and all three are rostered in each.Danny Woodhead is very curious as he looks to be the lead back or at least a guy that will see serious playing time. Some one needs to snap him up quick.

No slam apologies needed. Those responses are quite normal around here. My league is a pseudo dynasty keeper 12 man league, 22 roster spots, start 1 QB, 1 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1PK and 1 flex RB WR or TE, also start 1 DL, 1LB, 1DB and 1D Flex. It is an auction $220 salary cap, and we must have at least 2 guys at every position. Also, we only allow 12 keepers per team. So, while teams would like to hoard all the future RB's we are a little restricted. You logistically can't carry more than 6. That's how some of these guys are on the waiver wire. Every league is different. I quit my other league just to have fun in one league, I don't get playing in multiple leagues, but that's another issue.So now you know.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

What about his game do you think caps his upside?

The fact that Evil Bill drafted 2 RBs in the first 3 rounds the year after they signed Woodhead. He's a good draw play RB and serviceable receiver out of the backfield, and in NE that gives him some value because they run shotgun so much. I don't see him lining up in a pro style and running between the tackles. How many attempts has Woodhead even gotten in that role? That's what BJGE is for. And going forward Vereen and Ridley should be able do that. He's in an ideal situation now - a team that runs shotgun/spread so much - he wouldn't be as good in another situation and his situation might get reduced if Vereen and Ridley catch on.

He was doing just that on Monday Night.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Woodhead, Vereen, Ridley---Crazy as it sounds all 3 are available in my league, no one wants to touch these guys. Ridley and Vereen were drafted in the first 3 rounds, these guys might see some touches this year but who is the long term grab?

I don't mean this as a slam, I'm just curious as to what size rosters you have. I'm in 3 dynasty leagues (two 25 man and one 30) and all three are rostered in each.Danny Woodhead is very curious as he looks to be the lead back or at least a guy that will see serious playing time. Some one needs to snap him up quick.

No slam apologies needed. Those responses are quite normal around here. My league is a pseudo dynasty keeper 12 man league, 22 roster spots, start 1 QB, 1 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1PK and 1 flex RB WR or TE, also start 1 DL, 1LB, 1DB and 1D Flex. It is an auction $220 salary cap, and we must have at least 2 guys at every position. Also, we only allow 12 keepers per team. So, while teams would like to hoard all the future RB's we are a little restricted. You logistically can't carry more than 6. That's how some of these guys are on the waiver wire. Every league is different. I quit my other league just to have fun in one league, I don't get playing in multiple leagues, but that's another issue.So now you know.

makes perfect sense in that format then, thanks.

 

[Captain Hook]

I like Bilal Powell of the Jets if available - I don't think Greene will succeed in the main RB role and while McKnight is good in PPR leagues, he is more of the LT play while Powell could be the lead RB - maybe by next year

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Kendall Hunter should have been stashed by now. If not, I question the caliber of your dynasty league.

I'm a fan of Alex Green in GB. Grant's gone after this season and Starks hasn't yet proved he's a legit franchise RB (or can stay healthy). He'll at least be part of the split, probably short-yardage. Remember, he was drafted in the 3rd round, so the Pack thinks highly of him.

Donald Brown may not be in the NFL next season-- he's that bad. Think about it-- the Colts have him at 3rd string (and falling). Just saying. Carter should already be a stash (see Hunter).

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I like Bilal Powell of the Jets if available - I don't think Greene will succeed in the main RB role and while McKnight is good in PPR leagues, he is more of the LT play while Powell could be the lead RB - maybe by next year

Powell should have been drafted in the 3rd round of anybody's rookie draft (normal-sized rosters. Small rosters at the exception). An earlier draft, right after the NFL draft like mine, he went in the 2nd.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

I like Bilal Powell of the Jets if available - I don't think Greene will succeed in the main RB role and while McKnight is good in PPR leagues, he is more of the LT play while Powell could be the lead RB - maybe by next year

Agreed, but considering he was just drafted I doubt he's on the waiver wire.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Jeremiah Johnson - Knowshon just isn't very good and now he's hurt. McGahee has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

 

[houndirish]

Tough to imagine that a lot of the rookies mentioned in this thread are available on the waiver wire in dynasty formats (Kendall Hunter, Bilal Powell, Dal Rel Scott, etc.) I took a different approach to the OP's question. The guys I have stashed, beyond rookies, are Isaac Redmond and Tashard Choice. I dropped Todman to get Redmond. I've had Choice for several years and am admittedly holding on to him now based more on my investment of time. I'd love to say he's a good stash but at this point I'd have to say that was a bad call on my part. I'm not as high on McKnight as others simply because I like Powell's skill set better. If Michael Bush is available in your league he'd be a guy I'd target as a stash. Seems very talented but the Raiders have always valued speed so it would seem that McFadden and Taiwan Jones will be the future there. Bush could be very impactful someplace else. I like Jerome Harrison's chances of producing this season as I have no faith in Best's ability to hold up to the beating. I think Javon Ringer is also a nice hold. He's looked good when given the opportunity to play. When his contract expires he could be a nice producer on a different NFL squad.

Lastly, I think CJ Spiller is a nice buy low. I'm sure he's rostered in all dynasty leagues so this is kinda going a different direction that what the OP requested but as far as targeting players for trades is concerned, I think he can pay nice dividends.

 

[BigJim®]

What about a guy like Derai Scott for the NYG. Jacobs is kind of pushing the end of his time and could this guy replace him especially if the Giants struggle. Add in Bradshaw does get hurt. 16 team 24 man O rosters so most of these guys are rosteredJordan Todman, Derai Scott, Lance Ball, Leon Washington, Allen Bradford, Jeremiah JOhnson or Chad Spann would be the best pickup at this point. Out of these I like Scott and will make a play

We have real deep rosters, so these guys might be a tier below what you are looking for, but DeRel Scott (NYG) and Phillip Tanner (Dallas) are two decent zero cost deep roster stashes for dynasty.

 

[jonboltz]

What about a guy like Derai Scott for the NYG. Jacobs is kind of pushing the end of his time and could this guy replace him especially if the Giants struggle. Add in Bradshaw does get hurt. 16 team 24 man O rosters so most of these guys are rosteredJordan Todman, Derai Scott, Lance Ball, Leon Washington, Allen Bradford, Jeremiah JOhnson or Chad Spann would be the best pickup at this point. Out of these I like Scott and will make a play

We have real deep rosters, so these guys might be a tier below what you are looking for, but DeRel Scott (NYG) and Phillip Tanner (Dallas) are two decent zero cost deep roster stashes for dynasty.

I like both of these guys, but cannot see myself rostering either of them as they are both currently RB4 for their teams. Perhaps if my team suffers badly and I end up out of the race for the playoffs, but as long as I'm trying to be competitive I want to have guys on my team that I can evaluate for most of the year. If an injury hit NY or DAL, I'd pick them up though.

 

[domvin]

What about a guy like Derai Scott for the NYG. Jacobs is kind of pushing the end of his time and could this guy replace him especially if the Giants struggle. Add in Bradshaw does get hurt. 16 team 24 man O rosters so most of these guys are rosteredJordan Todman, Derai Scott, Lance Ball, Leon Washington, Allen Bradford, Jeremiah JOhnson or Chad Spann would be the best pickup at this point. Out of these I like Scott and will make a play

We have real deep rosters, so these guys might be a tier below what you are looking for, but DeRel Scott (NYG) and Phillip Tanner (Dallas) are two decent zero cost deep roster stashes for dynasty.

I just picked up Tanner last night.Murray and Choice don't excite me, and if Jerry Jones is endorsing you, well, thats good enough for me.14 Team, 25 man rosters.Have Dion stashed with him as well.

 

[az_prof]

Donald Brown may not be in the NFL next season-- he's that bad. Think about it-- the Colts have him at 3rd string (and falling). Just saying. Carter should already be a stash (see Hunter).

I am not dropping Brown until I have a chance to see him with another team. I really have no faith in the IND coaching staff, especially when it comes to the running game. It could be that he has no talent, or that they don't know how to coach him or use him. I saw some great potential his rookie year and that along with the fact that I think IND has the worst run scheme in the NFL gives me some hope he may blossom ala Thomas Jones or Cedric Benson when he finally gets out of IND. I know that I am in the minority, but that's my view. I don't write off a first round pick after two years in the NFL on a team that really hasn't given him a chance, while he has struggled with injuries. The odds are against him, but to say with 100% certainty that he will be out of the NFL next year is I think short sighted.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Donald Brown may not be in the NFL next season-- he's that bad. Think about it-- the Colts have him at 3rd string (and falling). Just saying. Carter should already be a stash (see Hunter).

I am not dropping Brown until I have a chance to see him with another team. I really have no faith in the IND coaching staff, especially when it comes to the running game. It could be that he has no talent, or that they don't know how to coach him or use him. I saw some great potential his rookie year and that along with the fact that I think IND has the worst run scheme in the NFL gives me some hope he may blossom ala Thomas Jones or Cedric Benson when he finally gets out of IND. I know that I am in the minority, but that's my view. I don't write off a first round pick after two years in the NFL on a team that really hasn't given him a chance, while he has struggled with injuries. The odds are against him, but to say with 100% certainty that he will be out of the NFL next year is I think short sighted.

Indy hasn't given him a chance? He's had ample opportunity, and has amassed a 3.8 ypc average.

 

[az_prof]

Donald Brown may not be in the NFL next season-- he's that bad. Think about it-- the Colts have him at 3rd string (and falling). Just saying. Carter should already be a stash (see Hunter).

I am not dropping Brown until I have a chance to see him with another team. I really have no faith in the IND coaching staff, especially when it comes to the running game. It could be that he has no talent, or that they don't know how to coach him or use him. I saw some great potential his rookie year and that along with the fact that I think IND has the worst run scheme in the NFL gives me some hope he may blossom ala Thomas Jones or Cedric Benson when he finally gets out of IND. I know that I am in the minority, but that's my view. I don't write off a first round pick after two years in the NFL on a team that really hasn't given him a chance, while he has struggled with injuries. The odds are against him, but to say with 100% certainty that he will be out of the NFL next year is I think short sighted.

Indy hasn't given him a chance? He's had ample opportunity, and has amassed a 3.8 ypc average.

He has never been given the chance to be the featured RB. It has been Addai's job. He has had a few spot starts but it isn't like he was given a chance to prove himself over an extended period of time as the starter.3.8 is a bad yard per carry, but Addai's career average, as a featured back for most of that time, is 4.1. Not that much better. Plus, you missed my point: I didn't say that Brown is a good back in the IND system--clearly he isn't. But the question is can he be a good back in a traditional Pro running offense?

Brown's receiving yard/catch is 12.1, which is above average for a HB. Addai's is 7.7.

Look, I know you don't like him. All I am saying is that everything you are saying now was also said of Benson and Thomas Jones. McFadden's y/p/c after his first two seasons (with almost the same number of carries as Brown) was 3.9. The difference: the team was committed to giving him opportunities and to designing an attack around what McFadden does well.

We don't know if Brown will do well if he has a new HC, new OC, and new running scheme, but you do not know he can't do well either. 200 carries is not enough to judge a HB--McFadden's example proves that as he has turned out to be a great back but certainly did not look like it his first two years. I don't see dropping him now in dynasty to pick up another PK or a third TE or a third QB.

 

[DropKick]

Donald Brown may not be in the NFL next season-- he's that bad. Think about it-- the Colts have him at 3rd string (and falling). Just saying. Carter should already be a stash (see Hunter).

I am not dropping Brown until I have a chance to see him with another team. I really have no faith in the IND coaching staff, especially when it comes to the running game. It could be that he has no talent, or that they don't know how to coach him or use him. I saw some great potential his rookie year and that along with the fact that I think IND has the worst run scheme in the NFL gives me some hope he may blossom ala Thomas Jones or Cedric Benson when he finally gets out of IND. I know that I am in the minority, but that's my view. I don't write off a first round pick after two years in the NFL on a team that really hasn't given him a chance, while he has struggled with injuries. The odds are against him, but to say with 100% certainty that he will be out of the NFL next year is I think short sighted.

Indy hasn't given him a chance? He's had ample opportunity, and has amassed a 3.8 ypc average.

He has never been given the chance to be the featured RB. It has been Addai's job. He has had a few spot starts but it isn't like he was given a chance to prove himself over an extended period of time as the starter.3.8 is a bad yard per carry, but Addai's career average, as a featured back for most of that time, is 4.1. Not that much better. Plus, you missed my point: I didn't say that Brown is a good back in the IND system--clearly he isn't. But the question is can he be a good back in a traditional Pro running offense?

Brown's receiving yard/catch is 12.1, which is above average for a HB. Addai's is 7.7.

Look, I know you don't like him. All I am saying is that everything you are saying now was also said of Benson and Thomas Jones. McFadden's y/p/c after his first two seasons (with almost the same number of carries as Brown) was 3.9. The difference: the team was committed to giving him opportunities and to designing an attack around what McFadden does well.

We don't know if Brown will do well if he has a new HC, new OC, and new running scheme, but you do not know he can't do well either. 200 carries is not enough to judge a HB--McFadden's example proves that as he has turned out to be a great back but certainly did not look like it his first two years. I don't see dropping him now in dynasty to pick up another PK or a third TE or a third QB.

Very good points...

 

[Fighting Noles]

Donald Brown isn't McFadden who had shown what he could do at times but just could NEVER stay on the field his first two years (& had a very sturdy, reliable sidekick in Michael Bush). This is "Damn it Donald". A First Rd RB who was benched for DOMINIC RHODES,Javaris James & Mike Hart (Three guys out of football now & Rhodes was out of the NFL when Indy brought him back) at the end of last year. Sometimes you have to trust the eyeball test and Brown just fails his - BADLY. He can't pass protect at all, goes down very easily on first contact & shows no real vision, balance or top end speed. He has no power to be considered a goalline back either. He also had the benefit of playing with one of the best QB's of all time (who helped turn an avg RB like Addai into a RB1 whenever he was healthy) and still managed to do absolutely nothing.

Besides all that, the kid has a bright future....

Re: See Lawrence Maroney (1st RD back also on a great O & arguably showed more flashes than Brown ever has).