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Eli Manning likely to play tomorrow (1 Viewer)

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Manning is likely to face Packers

Saturday, September 15, 2007

BY COLIN STEPHENSON

Star-Ledger Staff

After a seesaw week, it appears likely that starting quarterback Eli Manning, injured right shoulder and all, will play tomorrow when the Giants square off against the Green Bay Packers in their home opener.

Manning practiced yesterday for the first time this week and, based on the observations of his teammates, looked good enough to keep his consecutive games streak going as the Giants try to get their first win of the season.

"I tried to tell y'all, if he can play, he's going to do it," said Jared Lorenzen, who worked with the first team in Manning's place on Wednesday and Thursday, but now looks as though he'll be relegated to backup duty again. "It was good to see him out there."

Manning's status remains day-to-day, said a person close to Manning.

"Obviously (yesterday) went well," said the person, who asked not to be identified because all injury news must be released by the team. "If it keeps going well, he should be able to go (tomorrow)."

Manning, who doesn't speak to the media on Fridays, made about 15 throws during the first half-hour of practice, while the media was allowed to watch. He started by lofting some 15- and 20-yard balls to receivers in some basic route-running drills, before eventually making some harder throws. Some were off-target, behind the receiver and such, which would indicate his timing was rusty after not practicing the previous two days. According to Lorenzen, during the part of practice that was closed to the media, Manning took about half the snaps in all of the drills.

"He threw some good balls, and, you know, I think he can go out there and play," Lorenzen said.

Tom Coughlin wasn't prepared to go that far. The Giants coach refused to characterize himself as confident or optimistic that Manning will play tomorrow.

"I'm not confident," Coughlin said. "That isn't the key term. The key term is, 'How is he going to be (this) morning, and then what are the medical people going to say?'"

Coughlin did, though, acknowledge that Manning "seemed to throw the ball pretty good," but tried to suggest that the doctors, and not the coaching staff, would determine whether he was healthy enough to face the Packers.

 
HUGE bump up for Droughns now, he's looking at 25 carries for 117 & 4 recepts for 34 and at least a TD!!!!!

:thumbup: :thumbup: :lmao:

It's Ruben Time, Baby!!!!

 
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If Manning doesn't play, Coughlin should be fired.
I'd say exactly the opposite.
I totally agree.This may get ugly.
:goodposting: There is now way Manning should play Sunday. There is no way is he completely healthy with that arm. What I mean here is that his arm will fall off more easier than it would say last week. With that GBY De I just dont like it if he plays. He needs one more week.
Not calling you out, but how does someone posting on a fantasy football message board have any inkling of a clue as to if Manning is healthy enough to play on Sunday? Manning got multiple opinions from orthopedists as to the extent to the injury to his shoulder and if he could risk further damage if he plays this weekend. Eli is a gamer, but I doubt that the Giants organization would allow their franchise QB to go out and play if there was a legitimate risk, beyond the usual risk of playing QB in the NFL, of exacerbating his injury to the point of putting his season or his career in jeopardy.As for me, I'll take Dr. Andrews opinion over Swampy's, but that's just me.

Edit to add: Now that I re-read my post, I guess I was kinda calling you out. :football:

 
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HUGE bump up for Droughns now, he's looking at 25 carries for 117 & 4 recepts for 34 and at least a TD!!!!! :porked: :excited: :link: It's Ruben Time, Baby!!!!
And Ward does what? Did Droughns get named the starter?
Hedgecock signed as the new FB, which frees up Droughns to be RB again.
Does HK stand for Have Krack?
No. Also, crack is spelled with a "c".
outside of injury to ward you're a moron if you think Droughns gets anywhere close to 25 carries
 
If Manning doesn't play, Coughlin should be fired.
I'd say exactly the opposite.
I totally agree.This may get ugly.
:rolleyes: There is now way Manning should play Sunday. There is no way is he completely healthy with that arm. What I mean here is that his arm will fall off more easier than it would say last week. With that GBY De I just dont like it if he plays. He needs one more week.
Not calling you out, but how does someone posting on a fantasy football message board have any inkling of a clue as to if Manning is healthy enough to play on Sunday? Manning got multiple opinions from orthopedists as to the extent to the injury to his shoulder and if he could risk further damage if he plays this weekend. Eli is a gamer, but I doubt that the Giants organization would allow their franchise QB to go out and play if there was a legitimate risk, beyond the usual risk of playing QB in the NFL, of exacerbating his injury to the point of putting his season or his career in jeopardy.As for me, I'll take Dr. Andrews opinion over Swampy's, but that's just me.

Edit to add: Now that I re-read my post, I guess I was kinda calling you out. ;)
I think Swampy was referring to the fact that multiple doctors told eli he should NOT play for a few weeks, while one told him he could. WHo knows, maybe he is ready. but why did he need to go seek out a doctor to get that approval? If he was indeed healthy enough, he shouldnt have had to do that. Therefore, makes it seem as if hes desperate to come back too soon.
 
HUGE bump up for Droughns now, he's looking at 25 carries for 117 & 4 recepts for 34 and at least a TD!!!!! ;) :rolleyes: :clap: It's Ruben Time, Baby!!!!
And Ward does what? Did Droughns get named the starter?
Hedgecock signed as the new FB, which frees up Droughns to be RB again.
Does HK stand for Have Krack?
No. Also, crack is spelled with a "c".
outside of injury to ward you're a moron if you think Droughns gets anywhere close to 25 carries
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
 
I hope Eli does play tomorrow, because my opponent is wrestling with having to start him or Alex Smith. I want him to start Eli, then have Eli get yanked after one pass.

 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
 
HUGE bump up for Droughns now, he's looking at 25 carries for 117 & 4 recepts for 34 and at least a TD!!!!! :thumbup: :fishing: :clap: It's Ruben Time, Baby!!!!
And Ward does what? Did Droughns get named the starter?
Hedgecock signed as the new FB, which frees up Droughns to be RB again.
Does HK stand for Have Krack?
Just place him on ignore and then pray people don't quote him. Its worked well for me.
 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
I am far too lazy to find it on a Saturday off work, but either Coughlin was quoted, or it was highly suspected, that he preferred Ward for the backup RB slot over Droughns.BTW, many Giants fans think the Droughns trade was as much, if not more, about getting rid of Tim Carter then getting Droughns.
 
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what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
What makes you so sure that the new FB will know the playbook well enough to see any playing time at all, let alone start?
 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
What makes you so sure that the new FB will know the playbook well enough to see any playing time at all, let alone start?
Couple things here:1) FB isn't always on the field for NYG, as they run a lot of 3 WR sets.

2) When Hedgecock comes in to play FB during the game, Droughns can tell him his assignment in the huddle or at the LOS if he isn't sure (This is another huge benefit of having Droughns in the game at RB).

3) Playing FB is not hard. Lead block into the whole and hit the first opposite color you see. Madison has been running with the first unit during practice this week, too.

I have seen nothing stating Ward will carry the load coming from any official source - not Coughlin, not the Giants, just FF speculators. Droughns is a proven 1200 yard rusher, he'll be the guy, count on it.

 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
What makes you so sure that the new FB will know the playbook well enough to see any playing time at all, let alone start?
Couple things here:1) FB isn't always on the field for NYG, as they run a lot of 3 WR sets.

2) When Hedgecock comes in to play FB during the game, Droughns can tell him his assignment in the huddle or at the LOS if he isn't sure (This is another huge benefit of having Droughns in the game at RB).

3) Playing FB is not hard. Lead block into the whole and hit the first opposite color you see. Madison has been running with the first unit during practice this week, too.

I have seen nothing stating Ward will carry the load coming from any official source - not Coughlin, not the Giants, just FF speculators. Droughns is a proven 1200 yard rusher, he'll be the guy, count on it.
Signing Hedgecock has more to do with filling a need that the Giants have had all off-season rather than opening up the option to have Droughns run wild. Ever since the Texans matched their offer for Vonta Leach and now with Finn hurt they've been using a combination of players (RBs and TEs) for the FB position.Now they got their FB.

Read into that if you must.

 
Report: Eli Manning to start Updated 9/14/07

NFL.com reports Friday that Eli Manning will start vs. the Packers in Week 2. Manning's shoulder was hurt in the Giants' loss at Dallas last week and speculation was rampant that Manning would miss some time. "He seemed to throw the ball pretty good," coach Tom Coughlin said. "But that is not for me to judge. That's for others. If you really watch closely, he did the smart thing. He loosened up pretty good and started to get into the velocity throws a little bit later on."

 
The Giants players believe Derrick Ward will take over as the team's featured running back while Brandon Jacobs (MCL sprain) recovers.

Jacobs is considered week-to-week, according to a report processed on the team's website. Ward showed good explosion against Dallas and Reuben Droughns is playing fullback, so Ward is the best pickup in fantasy leagues.

Source: New York Daily News

 
The most recent depth chart released by the Giants has Derrick Ward, not Reuben Droughns, listed as the team's No. 2 running back.

Droughns is a relatively big name thanks to back-to-back 1,200-yard seasons in 2004 and 2005, but always represented less of a threat to RB Brandon Jacobs' workload than most believed. NBC Sunday Night Football analyst John Madden nailed it last month when he opined that coach Tom Coughlin preferred Ward over Droughns as Jacobs' backup.

 
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what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
Simple, Droughns showed nothing in preseason which is why they made him a fullback. Ward had 89 yards last week on just 13 carries for 6.8 yards/carry. He is a nobody because he seems to be always hurt (on IR last 2 years)Ward is the primary running back until Jacobs returns but don't let the facts get in the way of your manlove for Droughns.

http://www.giants.com/news/eisen/story.asp?story_id=25893

 
Droughns showed nothing in preseason which is why they made him a fullback.
Actually, Droughns had a pretty decent preseason (4.0 YPC on 22 carries, 0 fumbles). Ward only got 13 carries in preseason but made the most of it (5.5 YPC, 6 first downs, 1 TD).Sorry for the interruption -- let's get back to the bashing...........
 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
HK, not one person in the entire fantasy football community agrees with you. Just a heads up.
 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
HK, not one person in the entire fantasy football community agrees with you. Just a heads up.
Walk out on a ledge by yourself and if you're right, you get kudos for being only guy who saw the ledge for what it was and if you're wrong, you get some kudos for having the guts to step out on the ledge by yourself.Kinda a no loose situation.Having said that, I see Derek Anderson as the NFL player of the week for week 2.
 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
HK, not one person in the entire fantasy football community agrees with you. Just a heads up.
Walk out on a ledge by yourself and if you're right, you get kudos for being only guy who saw the ledge for what it was and if you're wrong, you get some kudos for having the guts to step out on the ledge by yourself.Kinda a no loose situation.Having said that, I see Derek Anderson as the NFL player of the week for week 2.
:thumbup: :wall:
 
Eli Manning-QB-Giants Sep. 16 - 10:14 am et

FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki believes Jared Lorenzen will ultimately get the Giants start Sunday.

He also says the reports Manning practiced Friday are "erroneous", yet there were multiple confirmations and Manning is officially listed as having practiced in a limited fashion. Manning is a game time decision.

Source: FoxSports.com

No offense to this guy (I have no clue who he is). I see his postings every week & 75-80% of the time he's dead wrong. He's been wrong to point where I think he's a huge fantasy football nut that just wants to mess with the heads of fantasy football owners (perhaps his opponents?)

 
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All the national guys wanna be the one who was correct on this so they are all saying at one point or another this week, that he is out.While if you read and listen to the LOCAL media, they all say GTD, and the higher probability is that he will start.

John Czarnecki believes
Yes, and I believe he will start, so teh only difference here is that Czarnacki has an audience of thousands.
 
Eli Manning-QB-Giants Sep. 16 - 10:14 am et FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki believes Jared Lorenzen will ultimately get the Giants start Sunday.He also says the reports Manning practiced Friday are "erroneous", yet there were multiple confirmations and Manning is officially listed as having practiced in a limited fashion. Manning is a game time decision.Source: FoxSports.com No offense to this guy (I have no clue who he is). I see his postings every week & 75-80% of the time he's dead wrong. He's been wrong to point where I think he's a huge fantasy football nut that just wants to mess with the heads of fantasy football owners (perhaps his opponents?)
shadyrider>John CzarneckiJohn should start talking to Coughlin's neighbors.
 
Starting to wonder about Mort's sources. At least thats who I think reported that he was out 4 weeks.

 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
HK, not one person in the entire fantasy football community agrees with you. Just a heads up.
Walk out on a ledge by yourself and if you're right, you get kudos for being only guy who saw the ledge for what it was and if you're wrong, you get some kudos for having the guts to step out on the ledge by yourself.Kinda a no loose situation.Having said that, I see Derek Anderson as the NFL player of the week for week 2.
Ummmm..... :D x infinityAvery = FBG Poster Of The Week for Week 2
 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
HK, not one person in the entire fantasy football community agrees with you. Just a heads up.
Walk out on a ledge by yourself and if you're right, you get kudos for being only guy who saw the ledge for what it was and if you're wrong, you get some kudos for having the guts to step out on the ledge by yourself.Kinda a no loose situation.Having said that, I see Derek Anderson as the NFL player of the week for week 2.
Ummmm..... :lmao: x infinityAvery = FBG Poster Of The Week for Week 2
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what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
HK, not one person in the entire fantasy football community agrees with you. Just a heads up.
Walk out on a ledge by yourself and if you're right, you get kudos for being only guy who saw the ledge for what it was and if you're wrong, you get some kudos for having the guts to step out on the ledge by yourself.Kinda a no loose situation.Having said that, I see Derek Anderson as the NFL player of the week for week 2.
Ummmm..... :own3d: x infinityAvery = FBG Poster Of The Week for Week 2
:coffee:
yeah, really! Let me know who will be the player of the week by Wednesday, if possible. TIA.
 
what if ward gets say 50 yards running this week? I dont think its out of the question for droughns to be the back at some point. they did bring him there for that specific reason. Signing the fb only makes one think this even more.
How is it possible for Ward to get anything close to 50 yards this week? Ward has 48 carries in his entire career, he's a nobody. He's opnly # 2 on the depth chart at RB because Droughns is #1 at FB. Now that they have an FB, Droughns will be the feature back this week, as well as going forward.
HK, not one person in the entire fantasy football community agrees with you. Just a heads up.
Walk out on a ledge by yourself and if you're right, you get kudos for being only guy who saw the ledge for what it was and if you're wrong, you get some kudos for having the guts to step out on the ledge by yourself.Kinda a no loose situation.Having said that, I see Derek Anderson as the NFL player of the week for week 2.
Ummmm..... :own3d: x infinityAvery = FBG Poster Of The Week for Week 2
:coffee:
Did you actually start DA? You certainly called it, but did you cash in on your own genius?
 

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