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End of year Deep Dynasty Stashes (1 Viewer)
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titusbramble
Footballguy
End of bench players for me (10 team, 25 man 3 IR 4 taxi):
Rush, Zappe
Sermon, Ebner, Blackshear
Mims
Okonkwo, J Woods
Rush, Zappe
Sermon, Ebner, Blackshear
Mims
Okonkwo, J Woods
joey
Footballguy
Are we naming progressive rock bands?
Rush, Zappa
Emerson, Lake, Palmer
(I’ll see myself out)
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Watching Trestan Ebner. Monty will be gone, and Ebner could step right in as the #2 behind Herbert. Could make for a solid PPR bye week option.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
You can bet on it. Just as long as he doesn't.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Ross is interesting to me, although rookie WR’s (which he will essentially be) seem to have a tough time making an impact in Reid’s offense.
Of course
TartanLion
Footballguy
Same thread here. Maybe merge mods ?
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TartanLion
Footballguy
I’m thinking of making a move for him in a league where I’m weak at WR. Figure he’s a low cost chance at a WR1-2. What’s he worth in a trade ? An RB like Akers maybe ? ( deep at RB ). Maybe a 2nd and a 3rd ?
TartanLion
Footballguy
QB
Skylar Thompson
Jacoby Brissett
Andy Dalton
Any younger marginal starter/impending FA/
they all have value in superFlex. Collect as many as possible. This year I went in to the season with Trey Lance and a raft of completely free FA pickups in Brissett/Dalton/Geno Smith/Trubisky. Got Heinicke as season progressed. At the very least they can end up being traded for draft picks to needy competing teams later down the line
RB
Malik Davis
Julius Chestnut
Mike Davis
Salvon Ahmed
Anyone with either A) youth and a pulse or B) a steady hand with experience who could find a role at a team.
Collect as many as humanly possible as RBs can change value quickly as they get teams and roles/pre season buzz/ carries through injury into season. Can be invaluable for more draft picks or filling in for injuries.
WR
Isaiah Hodgins
Tylan Wallace
Jaelon Darden
Isiah Weston
TE
Okonkwo
Ogletree
Krull
Kholar
Skylar Thompson
Jacoby Brissett
Andy Dalton
Any younger marginal starter/impending FA/
they all have value in superFlex. Collect as many as possible. This year I went in to the season with Trey Lance and a raft of completely free FA pickups in Brissett/Dalton/Geno Smith/Trubisky. Got Heinicke as season progressed. At the very least they can end up being traded for draft picks to needy competing teams later down the line
RB
Malik Davis
Julius Chestnut
Mike Davis
Salvon Ahmed
Anyone with either A) youth and a pulse or B) a steady hand with experience who could find a role at a team.
Collect as many as humanly possible as RBs can change value quickly as they get teams and roles/pre season buzz/ carries through injury into season. Can be invaluable for more draft picks or filling in for injuries.
WR
Isaiah Hodgins
Tylan Wallace
Jaelon Darden
Isiah Weston
TE
Okonkwo
Ogletree
Krull
Kholar
He's someone I was going to list. Looked awesome in the pre-season. I'm not sure of the reason(s) but seems to have ceded a lot of playing time to Peyton Hendershot lately but I still think Ferguson is the play IF Shultz leaves. I'm not ready to label that as probable yet.
Speaking of TE's I'd not mind sitting on Foster Moreau and seeing what shakes out with him with regards to where he signs. Granted he did not blow things up this year but other then Adams, who did in the passing game for the Raiders? He'll be 26 next season and I think might be a really good player with a full off-season to install himself as the starter.
And not all stashes have to be young. If you got an open spot and put any value on TE at all I might roster Gronk, I have been in a few leagues and as crazy as it sounds for me to suggest this someone actually outbid me for him on Wednesday in a league so I'm maybe not that crazy, or at least not alone.
jabarony
Footballguy
I'd rather have the roster spot.
dmac37
Footballguy
I disagree. He is no can't miss slam dunk at this stage with red flags but a proven top 12 FF WR that a team on the rise just traded for and invested in vs an unknown roster spot??
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Gronk is my favorite stash out of that group. Still played at a high level last we saw him in 2021 (55/802/6 in 12 games, if you average it out to 17 games it’s 78/1136/9). Even at his worst (in 2018) he was TE11 for fantasy purposes. Same age as Kelce. If he’s active he’s a good bet to be a top 5-10 fantasy TE. And if he stays retired this offseason then you can free up that roster spot for your dart throw of choice. I still like the Ferguson and Moreau suggestions too, but IMO neither have the ceiling of Gronk even at his age.
The Gator
Footballguy
Potential + Elite system = colour me intrigued
Kyle Phillips. I'll be ready to drop him if he's an oft injured player. He very much looked like Welker in preseason and at the start of the season- either OT or 4thQ last drive- they put him outside one on one; he beat his man time and again for the W. He's an outstanding route runner but he doesn't seem to have that ability to take a hit and he's probably 5-11 185lbs.
Chig- I'm never a Titans homer for FF, this is unusual. I actually thought everyone was too high on him last summer. He showed quite a bit the last few games. I'm holding and if Hooper is still a starter and he hasn't developed better blocking or switched to a WRish role...well then I'll drop him and get any of the 20 TEs that will get me 400 yards for the season.
Jajuan Jennings has stepped up enough whenever the starters were injured. He never got
the same targets or looks but he reliably got the job done. I think he'll be good on a new team, with consistent snaps.
Erik Ezukanma was the best WR in preseason and made some wow catches and cuts. Miami has too much depth at WR that he's barely played if at all this year. Still...this is a deep thread so there's a spot for "see what happens next year."
Nico Collins probably is the #1 next year so moves for him.
Back on the Parham train. The Chargers are using him after his injury recovery and he still looks like hmmm maybe a stud someday.
Bellinger completely has the GMen convinced he's the man at TE, as a rookie. He's made enough tough blocks and tough catches teamed up with the opportunity that I'm holding him.
Some learning....
Last two drafts but very much 2022 draft, there were a ton of speedy little buggers. Almost none of them played and if they did they didn't do reliably well (for FF.) I don't want tiny guys not named Hill anymore.
Forever a stud RB guy, I'm learning to keep less n less RBs in dynasty. They are a dime a dozen in dynasty too, as they are in the NFL. Top 20? 30? Fine they're still studs but it has been a waste to hold onto Ronald Jones and Mike Davis and....so many. Brutal is that I cut a maybe WR that panned out, dropped Davis for draft roster spot, then wound up picking him up late in the summer- completely illustrating that there was no need to hang onto him.
Adios:
Moore and Davis on NYJ. I might change my mind on Moore but Davis' career shows a clear decline and the thing of it is, he's getting plenty of targets. It's time. It's time.
Trades:
I have Gesecki on every roster now and never paid all that much. There's no way he's under utilized next year. He either gets traded or gets the work in Miami.
Idk what happened with Uzomah at NYJ. He was excellent last season and shined in the post season. They were doing this two downs for Conklin third down for him rotation for a bit, they drafted a TE they like and....he just doesn't fit there. He's 29 or so but last year was the first year he looked spry so I'm not thinking age. There just aren't many good TEs in the NFL and (ya gotta look at his post season highlights again) I have him as a last spot on a few rosters. Let's see what next season brings.
Chig- I'm never a Titans homer for FF, this is unusual. I actually thought everyone was too high on him last summer. He showed quite a bit the last few games. I'm holding and if Hooper is still a starter and he hasn't developed better blocking or switched to a WRish role...well then I'll drop him and get any of the 20 TEs that will get me 400 yards for the season.
Jajuan Jennings has stepped up enough whenever the starters were injured. He never got
the same targets or looks but he reliably got the job done. I think he'll be good on a new team, with consistent snaps.Erik Ezukanma was the best WR in preseason and made some wow catches and cuts. Miami has too much depth at WR that he's barely played if at all this year. Still...this is a deep thread so there's a spot for "see what happens next year."
Nico Collins probably is the #1 next year so moves for him.
Back on the Parham train. The Chargers are using him after his injury recovery and he still looks like hmmm maybe a stud someday.
Bellinger completely has the GMen convinced he's the man at TE, as a rookie. He's made enough tough blocks and tough catches teamed up with the opportunity that I'm holding him.
Some learning....
Last two drafts but very much 2022 draft, there were a ton of speedy little buggers. Almost none of them played and if they did they didn't do reliably well (for FF.) I don't want tiny guys not named Hill anymore.
Forever a stud RB guy, I'm learning to keep less n less RBs in dynasty. They are a dime a dozen in dynasty too, as they are in the NFL. Top 20? 30? Fine they're still studs but it has been a waste to hold onto Ronald Jones and Mike Davis and....so many. Brutal is that I cut a maybe WR that panned out, dropped Davis for draft roster spot, then wound up picking him up late in the summer- completely illustrating that there was no need to hang onto him.
Adios:
Moore and Davis on NYJ. I might change my mind on Moore but Davis' career shows a clear decline and the thing of it is, he's getting plenty of targets. It's time. It's time.
Trades:
I have Gesecki on every roster now and never paid all that much. There's no way he's under utilized next year. He either gets traded or gets the work in Miami.
Idk what happened with Uzomah at NYJ. He was excellent last season and shined in the post season. They were doing this two downs for Conklin third down for him rotation for a bit, they drafted a TE they like and....he just doesn't fit there. He's 29 or so but last year was the first year he looked spry so I'm not thinking age. There just aren't many good TEs in the NFL and (ya gotta look at his post season highlights again) I have him as a last spot on a few rosters. Let's see what next season brings.
Witten and Novacek...the Cowboys keep their top TEs for like 20-30 years. I wouldn't bet on Schultz leaving
I have Zappe too. Still think he's better than Mac.
I think Blackshear is too far down the depth chart and it's like when we kept Evans on Cincy or that Browns RB. Gotta have some rule that third stringers are too deep at RB to keep and very susceptible to being replaced by a pick because the RBs aren't really drafted high anymore in the NFL draft.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Ridley’s heart may not be in it.
Boston
Footballguy
Agree with this in a big way and have for a few years...Dynasty-wise I will no longer force draft picks on RBs purely because of the position (and for full disclosure I build my team around stud WRs anyways)...will also not carry low upside RB veterans in the offseason as opposed to using a roster spot on youngsters at RB or any other position...I have been having a lot of success trading for RBs during the season once you get an idea who has an opportunity to be productive...that goes for young ones and veterans...for the young ones you pay close attention to camp and you can usually get an idea who looks like they are going to be a player...for the veterans there will always be some that you can acquire pretty easily once you see that it appears they are going to have a productive year...guys like Fournette, Connor, Mostert, McKinnon, Wilson and Foreman are examples of this type of player the past few years...this year I acquired Aaron Jones at what I considered a very fair price because the non-contending team that owned him just did not have many options to deal him and it did not make sense for them to hold onto him as they wanted to get younger... these veterans can usually be acquired at very reasonable to cheap prices because they really only have value to a contending team as they can help win you titles if the rest of your roster is legit...I am not saying you build your entire RB unit like this because a core group of legit RBs will always be a staple of any good Dynasty team, but I do believe it is sometimes easier to build this unit thru trades rather than the draft if you are not in a position to acquire those top-end rookies on draft day.
MAC_32
Footballguy
A year ago yesterday I added Raheem Mostert and now he's starting for me in a title game. Before 2021 I made a similar move for Cordarelle Patterson who started for me in last year's title game - I flipped him for a 2 at this year's deadline. I certainly didn't expect either of those things to happen let alone both, but I thought it was a marginally better bet than Jalen Reagor removing his head from his *** or Scotty Miller becoming a thing and ever potentially being worth anything.
I think I agree with what you two are getting at, but that it's much more about opportunity cost. Devoting meaningful capital to marginal RB's is an -EV proposition. Try to build your lineup to go into the season with no doubters, move the dead zone types, and take a cheap volume approach with your bench.
Boston
Footballguy
Agreed...I am fortunate enough to be in two Super Bowls this weekend...stating Mckinnon in one and Connor in the other...not something you would put $ on in August...as you said the key is to have that big time core (personally, I always do it with my WRs...just feel they last longer, don't fall off the cliff as much and don't get hurt as much as RBs) than you figure out your roster management on the peripherals...it is always important to get as much draft capital as possible during the season because those #2's and 3's maybe all it takes to get these type of players because you are not trying to hit home runs...than you can obtain these type of players without touching your roster in-season.
Blick
Footballguy
I normally tweak this slightly. Unless a RB is young, in a great situation, and has a very low chance to be drafted over, I trade them. I sometimes go into a draft with only 1 or 2 RBs on my roster, even on contending teams. Through the draft and pre-season trades I’ll round out my roster. I churn through RBs. The shelf life is too short, the value is too volatile, there’s a glut of decent options, the top guys don’t stay there, etc, etc, etc.
What about Chuba?
It's a shame how well Foreman plays and can't stay somewhere. I didn't look but I wanna say he's been top ten RB the second half of the last two seasons
zamboni
Footballguy
I think they’d add one of the many FAs over Hubbard.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I don't know who else will be in the room, but the Panthers aren't going into 2023 with a depth chart of Chuba-Blackshear-day 3 rookie.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Probably correct
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
With Sanders and Scott both UFA, do you stash Gainwell or Sermon? Assuming Phi may bring in someone but you never know.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Neither? I have a feeling Gainwell will always be a COP back and Sermon sucks, so they may draft someone like Gibbs.
joey
Footballguy
Yeah. This is where the rich get richer. RB draft values depressed so a Super Bowl level team like Philly can have the luxury of drafting the best RB at the bottom of the first round. That said, I’m stashing Gainwell in one league so hope they think he’s their guy.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I took a flier on Sermon for the contract reasons you cited, but put the odds of him emerging from April with a path to a meaningful role at < 1%.
efactor
Footballguy
True, but it's virtually free to take a chance on him. At least it was earlier in the year. He is gone in all my leagues
efactor
Footballguy
Thanks for the mention of Gronk. Kind of forgot about him as a possibility to come back for one more year. Was able to pick him up this morning as a stash for next year
He's in last year of his contract and is potentially looking at $18-20M a year quite easily. I'm not worried about motivation.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I took fliers on both him and Will Fuller where I had some dead space.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Some might disagree with these, valuing my drops more, but in anticipation of our league's drop-add blackout I have made the following moves for the long offseason:
Dropped: Z. Knight, M. Davis, Dicker
Added: Bellinger, Noah Gray, Ty Chandler
I think I have another two weeks to tweak it. Gray kind of a safety blanket for Kelce in the playoffs. Ultimately, I think he's the most likely answer to Chiefs TE after Kelce, but not sure I can dedicate the roster spot for that long. Also liked what I saw from Bellinger early. I figured he was at least worth a stash to see if he does anything in the playoffs.
Would love to fire shots at Shakir, Sermon, Ferguson, Calvin Austin, Phillips, Metchie if I had any more room.
Dropped: Z. Knight, M. Davis, Dicker
Added: Bellinger, Noah Gray, Ty Chandler
I think I have another two weeks to tweak it. Gray kind of a safety blanket for Kelce in the playoffs. Ultimately, I think he's the most likely answer to Chiefs TE after Kelce, but not sure I can dedicate the roster spot for that long. Also liked what I saw from Bellinger early. I figured he was at least worth a stash to see if he does anything in the playoffs.
Would love to fire shots at Shakir, Sermon, Ferguson, Calvin Austin, Phillips, Metchie if I had any more room.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Half my dynasty roster is made up of deep stashes.
Darrell Henderson, Jordan Mason, Odell Beckham, Khalil Shakir, Danny Gray, Jerome Ford, Jake Ferguson, Tommy Tremble, Lance McCutcheon, and Albert Okwuegbunam.
Darrell Henderson, Jordan Mason, Odell Beckham, Khalil Shakir, Danny Gray, Jerome Ford, Jake Ferguson, Tommy Tremble, Lance McCutcheon, and Albert Okwuegbunam.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don’t think money motivates him.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He isn’t very good. Hard pass.
nirad3
Footballguy
I actually deleted my post. I didn't realize he wasn't even a Buc anymore. Not sure when he was dumped.
I believe you have always equated his stepping away from the game due to mental issues as the same thing as just flat quitting and if you think that way then it would be hard to convince you anything motivates him.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
No, I’m saying his mental issues makes him not motivated for the NFL. What’s changed?
I will stand on my last comment.
