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Eric Johnson to get 80 receptions (1 Viewer)
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
....NOT
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Skip Bayless' fantasy predictions make Peter King's predictions look smart.
I think he's currently third on the depth chart. Not that he won't be able to move up past Mark Campbell and Billy Miller at some point before the season starts . . . but it's a bit premature to be talking about 80 receptions, IMO.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Absolutely not outside the realm of possibility. We're not talking about Robert Royal here,
He was a very nice TE for the 49ers when he played. If he's the #1 TE in NOR and is used in a pass catching role, he could see 50 easy.
He was a very nice TE for the 49ers when he played. If he's the #1 TE in NOR and is used in a pass catching role, he could see 50 easy.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Was this a rebroadcast from 2004?
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Not even close.
Terrible Skip, just terrible.
Terrible Skip, just terrible.
Prof. Chaos
Footballguy
Probably won't play 80 minutes before going on IR.
Baron Samedi
Footballguy
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I try not to beat up on any "pundit" for saying something bold because, after all, I'm wrong a helluva lot too.
But that's just HILARIOUS.
But that's just HILARIOUS.
GregR_2
Footballguy
I certainly hope that isn't true, FBG's depth charts have had him as the #1 for awhile now. Just checked the NFL.com depth chart:Tight EndE. Johnson, #82M. Campbell, #80B. Miller, #83J. Owens, #86
Big "if" there.
joffer
Footballguy
July 31, 2007, 17:12 Saints :: OL
Saints Tight End Update
New Orleans Times-Picayune - [Full Article]
There are four tight ends in camp for the New Orleans Saints. So far, returning veterans Mark Campbell and Billy Miller have the upper hand over newcomer Eric Johnson at this point because of their familiarity with the offense and QB Drew Brees. Johnson needs to develop that rapport over the next few weeks to jump ahead.
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June 4, 2007, 14:19
Saints :: TE
Chemistry Not There For Saints TE E. Johnson
Jimmy Smith, New Orleans Times-Picayune - [Full Article]
New Orleans Saints TE Eric Johnson caught more passes from the Jugs machine than he did from QB Drew Brees at the team's recent minicamp. "Building that kind of chemistry, you've got to be in there repping, taking reps with (Brees), catching the ball in the offseason," Johnson said. "Right now, we're not really building that chemistry because I'm trying to learn all the plays, running in the second and third group, trying to get all the lingo." Johnson still has work to do in order to pass TE Billy Miller for playing time when the season starts.
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Jayrod
Footballguy
I have a buddy of mine that I'm in three leagues with tell me the other day that he was thinking about Eric Johnson as his #1 tight end this year (he's normally a shark, but is busy this year and he is not on FBG's).
I hope he hears about this comment and it solidifies his ideas.
I hope he hears about this comment and it solidifies his ideas.
Here are some recent news stories on the Saints TEs:Johnson picks quickest route
Camp Confidential
The first indicates that Johnson was listed as the top tight end on the pre-camp depth chart, but has been running with the second team behind Mark Campbell. The second states that Campbell and Miller currently have the upper hand over Johnson.
The FBG depth charts represent fantasy expectations rather than official team charts (which are often based on politics). For example, Anthony Thomas is the RB1 on the Bills official depth chart, but do we really expect him to outgain Marshawn Lynch? We don't, so the FBG depth charts list Lynch as RB1. So I think it's correct to list Eric Johnson as TE1 on the FBG depth charts whether or not he's currently getting reps with the first team, if we expect him to end up as the Saints' top TE from a fantasy perspective.
corpcow
Footballguy
I think that comes from this news story on the FBG news blog.
Ultimately, I think he does have a lot of upside. He was a good receiving TE when healthy in SF, and we all know Brees likes big targets. I think 80 might be a bit ridiculous, but 50+ is not out of the question.
Enraged Nerfball
Footballguy
Maybe he was including training camp receptions?
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nygiants56
Footballguy
brownhelmets
Footballguy
80 catches is a lot considering the pure number of weapons the Saints have. If healthy, and that is a big if, Johnson could realistically get 50-60 reseptions.
Sidewinder
Footballguy
As a group, Saint TE's were 45-411-1 last year. I just don't see those numbers changing that much this coming season, except for perhaps the TD's jumping up into the 3 to 5 range.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
He's not even with the first team right now, he's having trouble with learning the system and saints have made comments that his blocking is leaving much to be desired. So Id say 80 receptions is more then a bit of a stretch at this point. I would expect nothing less from Skip 'football guru' Bayless.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Improved.LHUCKS said:
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Fixed.
Afro Samurai
Footballguy
From what I've seen personally, the dude can't block. Campbell looks like the #1 as a much more well-rounded player. Meanwhile, Johnson isn't showing anything that Billy Miller doesn't already bring to the table.
I think you'll probably see more of a committee approach to the situation.
I think you'll probably see more of a committee approach to the situation.
massraider
Footballguy
That's what I'm thinking. And I think that 50-60 is very, very generous. I think he'll have some O-fer games, personally.brownhelmets said:
FavreCo
Footballguy
Bayless is an idiot but he's far from exaggerating.There are a boatload of clueless people in here I see. Provided Johnson can play a full 16 games with no injury...HUGE if, he could catch 80 balls. Don't you people even realize he caught 82 - 3 years ago with TIM RATTAYand that team SUCKED BAD? Wow, you people are not thinkers, you are reactors.
massraider
Footballguy
Did Tim Rattay have McAllister, Bush, Colston, Henderson, and Meacham? Do you ever see him being anything more than a safety valve?"Sorry, Reggie, looks like a quiet week for you this Sunday, we have to get the injury-prone TE involved...."
Afro Samurai
Footballguy
Half the reason that team SUCKED BAD is because Eric Johnson was their best weapon.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
The over/under should be 80 yards, not catches.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I disagree...Eric Johnson's touts this year are very reminiscent of the touts we saw for Hilton last year. Despite numerous reports that he wasn't even atop the depth chart, people pimped his fantasy upside. Johnson is a decent player when healthy (gotta give props to a fellow Ivy Leaguerbrownhelmets said:
) but to say he's injury prone would be akin to saying Dom Deluise could use a diet. The Saints have such a dynamic offense they are going to err more on the side of blocking prowess than pure receiving talent. Johnson is not, nor has ever been even an average blocking tight end. I would be shocked if he sees the field enough to get past the 40-catch mark, and that assumes he a) stays healthy and b) wins the TE1 job against current odds.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Mike Karney will finish the season with more receptions than Eric Johnson.
Hilton was a Haslett holdover, and even though the offense is dynamic, they need an over the middle threat for when teams cheat into the flats, which they will almost certainly do to try to contain Reggie(see Eagle playoff game). The offense needs a 3rd receiving option. Devery is primarily a deep threat(highest YPC in nearly 30 years) and Copper isn't a #2 WR. That leaves Patten and Meachem, and I doubt either will contribute much this season.Whether they go to Johnson, Miller or a combination of the two, I see 65/800/5 for the Saints TEs.I disagree...Eric Johnson's touts this year are very reminiscent of the touts we saw for Hilton last year. Despite numerous reports that he wasn't even atop the depth chart, people pimped his fantasy upside. Johnson is a decent player when healthy (gotta give props to a fellow Ivy Leaguerbrownhelmets said:
Mr. Bill O'Reilly
Footballguy
How is that such a crazy projection? He had 82 receptions in 2004 and the saints throw the ball alot.
what a stupid statement, why dont you just start a thread stating you are ######ed. No RB in the history of the NFL has come close to 650 carries, and E Johnson had 82 catches in his only healthy year besides his rookie season. Why even bother making such a dumb post?
Interesting way to do depth charts.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
He'll be #1 by the end of the preseason. Payton and Brees are both excited about this guy, and talk about it ad nauseum on every local radio show. I'd expect 55-60 balls, probably not 80.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
There's no question that he's primarily a receiving TE, but word out of camp around here is that the coaching staff has been pleasantly surprised with his blocking instincts and ability. And he's working with the Saints' O-Line coach, who's pretty good at these things.In fact, rampant unsupported speculation around here is that he's not getting #1 TE duties because he's being taught how to block like a lineman and learning the offense at the same time. He just needs a few more weeks.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
where's your response to that since your such a 'thinker"
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Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
Look, I'll concede that Bush and Colston are reception-stealers, but McAllister's heavy-receiving days are over and I highly doubt that the coaching staff is cutting out the TE because of the speed-receiver with a case of a dropsies and the rookie who had to have knee surgery before camp.ETA: and no, Tim Rattay didn't have those weapons. Maybe you can add in the part about how Tim Rattay's no Drew Brees, too. That might be an interesting part of the breakdown.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
never..ever happen!
GregR_2
Footballguy
August 22, 2007, 21:02
Saints :: TE
TE Johnson Developing Rapport With QB Brees
Mike Tripplet, New Orleans Times-Picayune, Sporting News - [Full Article]
TE Eric Johnson won't immediately become the next Antonio Gates now that he's working with QB Drew Brees. But he will put up some nice numbers and give the Saints an added dimension. So far, it appears Johnson is splitting time with TE Mark Campbell in the starting lineup, with backup TE Billy Miller mixing in as well. But it's Johnson who is most likely to be used as a receiver, especially in the red zone, and you can see he is developing a rapport with Brees in practice. The Saints specifically targeted Johnson in free agency because he can get downfield and catch the ball.
Saints :: TE
TE Johnson Developing Rapport With QB Brees
Mike Tripplet, New Orleans Times-Picayune, Sporting News - [Full Article]
TE Eric Johnson won't immediately become the next Antonio Gates now that he's working with QB Drew Brees. But he will put up some nice numbers and give the Saints an added dimension. So far, it appears Johnson is splitting time with TE Mark Campbell in the starting lineup, with backup TE Billy Miller mixing in as well. But it's Johnson who is most likely to be used as a receiver, especially in the red zone, and you can see he is developing a rapport with Brees in practice. The Saints specifically targeted Johnson in free agency because he can get downfield and catch the ball.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I see you guys kept it real classy in this thread.
