ESPN FANTASY DRAFT SPECIAL.... (lol) (1 Viewer)

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I will start off.

Beware:

Vince Young: "they will state that he doesnt have a good wr corps and he is on the Madden Cover.

J.Harrington: "they will say those who think he is a starter.....he isnt starter material. maybe qb2/3"

C.Portis: "they will say that we need to beware of drafting him in the 1st round"

BUY:

J.Addai: "they will say all da mumbo jumbo about him being in the greatest situation possible"

M.Colsten: "they will say he is Brees best target and he will lock on him ala A.Gates"

L.Evans: "they will say how he is getting much better each year and he could be a nice wr1"

These STUD TV guys tells US REAL football fanatics so much helpful info.

 

[LHUCKS]

when is this?

 

[lawrence phillips]

They'll start off with a 10 minute segment about how nasty LT2 and SJax are and that one should take them in the first round.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

They'll start off with a 10 minute segment about how nasty LT2 and SJax are and that one should take them in the first round.

 

[aposulli]

Skip Bayless will come on and argue that Brett Favre is worth a 1st Round pick

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

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[Lehigh98]

Suzie Kolber will draft whichever TE she's currently banging in the 1st round and follow it up with a D in the 2nd.

 

[harryhood]

Suzie Kolber will draft whichever TE she's currently banging in the 1st round and follow it up with a D in the 2nd.

I beg to differ. Favre in the 2nd because he is a "game changer" and has so much "charisma"

 

[sholditch]

as long as they don't let that loser on with the gigantor ears from the fox show.

 

[The Royal Jack]

Beware of Rex Grossman despite the fact that he led the Bears to the Super Bowl in '06.

 

[sportsfreak619]

whoever watches that stuff is ######ded

 

[harryhood]

whoever watches that stuff is ######ded

spelling down?pot calling the kettle black down?

 

[Uruk-Hai]

While these types of shows aren't that informative to hard-core FF players, I think it's important to remember that most people who play fantasy football aren't rabid fanatics about it. They're not trying to appeal to FBGs members or else they'd lose the 90% who are more casual.

 

[Mik789fl]

Suzie Kolber will draft whichever TE she's currently banging in the 1st round and follow it up with a D in the 2nd.

If Suzie is banging any TE it's news to her girlfriend :X

 

[harrycarey]

Suzie Kolber will draft whichever TE she's currently banging in the 1st round and follow it up with a D in the 2nd.

If Suzie is banging any TE it's news to her girlfriend

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

While these types of shows aren't that informative to hard-core FF players, I think it's important to remember that most people who play fantasy football aren't rabid fanatics about it. They're not trying to appeal to FBGs members or else they'd lose the 90% who are more casual.

C'mon... There's no room for logic here. It's far more fun to bash everything. It's the American way.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Suzie Kolber will draft whichever TE she's currently banging in the 1st round and follow it up with a D in the 2nd.

I beg to differ. Favre in the 2nd because he is a "game changer" and has so much "charisma"

Favre will be gone on in the first to Bayless as already posted.

 

[burd]

Suzie Kolber will draft whichever TE she's currently banging in the 1st round and follow it up with a D in the 2nd.

If Suzie is banging any TE it's news to her girlfriend

HAHA yeah right ..... there's nothing feminine about her. I don't know where people get the idea that she's hetero. My friends think she's hot .... can you believe that? Oh yeah, squinty-eyed women w/ tendon-neck is really hot!!

 

[Banger]

that Joseph Addai is a sleeper.

 

[kneeshooter]

so when is this on? always one of the fantasy highlights for the year

 

[-jb-]

tendon-neck

i don;t know what this means, but

 

[Wu-banger]

Manning goes #2 in thier mock...

 

[burd]

tendon-neck

i don;t know what this means, but

you know when you clench your teeth and the tendons in your neck stick out? she's got that going on when she talks ... all i see is those tendons and it's gross on a woman. the only other "women" i see w/ tendon neck are female bodybuilders when they're straining to flex their muscles .. and they're barely women.

 

[-jb-]

tendon-neck

i don;t know what this means, but

you know when you clench your teeth and the tendons in your neck stick out? she's got that going on when she talks ... all i see is those tendons and it's gross on a woman. the only other "women" i see w/ tendon neck are female bodybuilders when they're straining to flex their muscles .. and they're barely women.

got it...and spot-on. never in the history of history has anyone been so excited about anything when they speak. suze needs to be punched in the face in front of her domestic partner.

 

[burd]

Seriously though .... as the "worldwide leader", wouldn't you expect them to aim a little higher in their assessments? I understand that they're trying to cater to the larger, non-fanatical masses, but if you're advertising yourself as the "worldwide leader", you should really try to set the bar higher.

that's like Mercedes marketing themselves as a high-end car manufacturer, but then mass producing cheap minivans for the masses. I'm surprised that ESPN hasn't jumped on the celeb drunk-driving bandwagon and start reporting on which celeb is going to rehab. ESPN is the Entertainment Tonight of sports ... fluff-artists

 

[Rodeojones]

as long as they don't let that loser on with the gigantor ears from the fox show.

That's Andrew Siciliano...while he may not be a FF expert, he fills in for Jim Rome often and does an excellent job. I like him....

 

[NoFBinLA]

While these types of shows aren't that informative to hard-core FF players, I think it's important to remember that most people who play fantasy football aren't rabid fanatics about it. They're not trying to appeal to FBGs members or else they'd lose the 90% who are more casual.

This is true -- but I think you could strike a much better balance and offer more than just beginner stuff.Plus, some of their advice - for beginners especially - is awful. If a beginner or casual FF owner watches this show and follows it;'s advice, they will lose in an embarrasing fashion. I mean, I wish the Brett Favre comment above was a joke but it just isn't.I don't remember - do they actually trot out their experts - Karabell and Engel and that bunch - for this?

 

[Verbal Kint]

While these types of shows aren't that informative to hard-core FF players, I think it's important to remember that most people who play fantasy football aren't rabid fanatics about it. They're not trying to appeal to FBGs members or else they'd lose the 90% who are more casual.

This is true -- but I think you could strike a much better balance and offer more than just beginner stuff.Plus, some of their advice - for beginners especially - is awful. If a beginner or casual FF owner watches this show and follows it;'s advice, they will lose in an embarrasing fashion. I mean, I wish the Brett Favre comment above was a joke but it just isn't.I don't remember - do they actually trot out their experts - Karabell and Engel and that bunch - for this?

I'll watch to understand what the guppies in my league are going to do.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

While these types of shows aren't that informative to hard-core FF players, I think it's important to remember that most people who play fantasy football aren't rabid fanatics about it. They're not trying to appeal to FBGs members or else they'd lose the 90% who are more casual.

This is true -- but I think you could strike a much better balance and offer more than just beginner stuff.Plus, some of their advice - for beginners especially - is awful. If a beginner or casual FF owner watches this show and follows it;'s advice, they will lose in an embarrasing fashion. I mean, I wish the Brett Favre comment above was a joke but it just isn't.I don't remember - do they actually trot out their experts - Karabell and Engel and that bunch - for this?

Don't get me wrong - I don't think they do a good job either, even given the fact that they play to the lowest common denominator. It really looks like the people in charge of this programming are only giving FF lip-service - they know it's popular, but don't really know what to do with it. So they produce fluff. I agree that they could produce a better product that strikes a balance between hardcore & casual, and - gasp! - maybe educate people.But can you imagine if they started getting into dynamic VBD or talking about baselines? The bulk of their audience would be nothing but blank stares.

 

[Tubalcane]

While these types of shows aren't that informative to hard-core FF players, I think it's important to remember that most people who play fantasy football aren't rabid fanatics about it. They're not trying to appeal to FBGs members or else they'd lose the 90% who are more casual.

This is true -- but I think you could strike a much better balance and offer more than just beginner stuff.Plus, some of their advice - for beginners especially - is awful. If a beginner or casual FF owner watches this show and follows it;'s advice, they will lose in an embarrasing fashion. I mean, I wish the Brett Favre comment above was a joke but it just isn't.I don't remember - do they actually trot out their experts - Karabell and Engel and that bunch - for this?

I'll watch to understand what the guppies in my league are going to do.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Seriously though .... as the "worldwide leader", wouldn't you expect them to aim a little higher in their assessments? I understand that they're trying to cater to the larger, non-fanatical masses, but if you're advertising yourself as the "worldwide leader", you should really try to set the bar higher. that's like Mercedes marketing themselves as a high-end car manufacturer, but then mass producing cheap minivans for the masses. I'm surprised that ESPN hasn't jumped on the celeb drunk-driving bandwagon and start reporting on which celeb is going to rehab. ESPN is the Entertainment Tonight of sports ... fluff-artists

From a dollars and cents business point of view, "most-popular" kicks "best product's" ### all day long. If you've gotta dumb down the conversation to keep more people tuned in that's what you're going to do.

 

[Jayrod]

Seriously though .... as the "worldwide leader", wouldn't you expect them to aim a little higher in their assessments? I understand that they're trying to cater to the larger, non-fanatical masses, but if you're advertising yourself as the "worldwide leader", you should really try to set the bar higher. that's like Mercedes marketing themselves as a high-end car manufacturer, but then mass producing cheap minivans for the masses. I'm surprised that ESPN hasn't jumped on the celeb drunk-driving bandwagon and start reporting on which celeb is going to rehab. ESPN is the Entertainment Tonight of sports ... fluff-artists

From a dollars and cents business point of view, "most-popular" kicks "best product's" ### all day long. If you've gotta dumb down the conversation to keep more people tuned in that's what you're going to do.

But they are already talking about fantasy football.Why don't they just do it right? It isn't like fewer people are going to watch if they start to actually give advice/commentary that is legitimate. Real FF players might start to watch and they wouldn't lose their casual ones.It basically doesn't make sense to have a pannel talk about a subject they know very little about.

 

[Vikes Fan]

as long as they don't let that loser on with the gigantor ears from the fox show.

That's Andrew Siciliano...while he may not be a FF expert, he fills in for Jim Rome often and does an excellent job. I like him....

I like Siciliano as well. Every once in a while, I catch his evening Fox radio show.Now as for the Fox "Ultimate Fantasy Football Show"... That is brutal. I haven't watched it in a while, but Warren Moon and Eric Kramer would give advice like "Start Jake Plummer over Peyton Manning because Plummer is facing a weak (Baltimore) defense, while Manning will have a tough time completing passes against a tough foe (Minnesota)." That is painful.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

Seriously though .... as the "worldwide leader", wouldn't you expect them to aim a little higher in their assessments? I understand that they're trying to cater to the larger, non-fanatical masses, but if you're advertising yourself as the "worldwide leader", you should really try to set the bar higher. that's like Mercedes marketing themselves as a high-end car manufacturer, but then mass producing cheap minivans for the masses. I'm surprised that ESPN hasn't jumped on the celeb drunk-driving bandwagon and start reporting on which celeb is going to rehab. ESPN is the Entertainment Tonight of sports ... fluff-artists

From a dollars and cents business point of view, "most-popular" kicks "best product's" ### all day long. If you've gotta dumb down the conversation to keep more people tuned in that's what you're going to do.

But they are already talking about fantasy football.Why don't they just do it right? It isn't like fewer people are going to watch if they start to actually give advice/commentary that is legitimate. Real FF players might start to watch and they wouldn't lose their casual ones.It basically doesn't make sense to have a pannel talk about a subject they know very little about.

I think a lot of it probably revolves around their insistence on using ESPN personalities in their show. They may know about football, but they don't know much about fantasy football. ESPN probably thinks (right or wrong) that people won't tune in if they see nondescript experts taking all the screen time. I don't think ESPN really cares what kind of advice they give as long as people tune in, even if they just tune in to make fun of the little draft they do.

 

[sholditch]

as long as they don't let that loser on with the gigantor ears from the fox show.

That's Andrew Siciliano...while he may not be a FF expert, he fills in for Jim Rome often and does an excellent job. I like him....

I like Siciliano as well. Every once in a while, I catch his evening Fox radio show.Now as for the Fox "Ultimate Fantasy Football Show"... That is brutal. I haven't watched it in a while, but Warren Moon and Eric Kramer would give advice like "Start Jake Plummer over Peyton Manning because Plummer is facing a weak (Baltimore) defense, while Manning will have a tough time completing passes against a tough foe (Minnesota)." That is painful.

He's not that bad, I just can't get over what a ##### he looks like. As I typed that, I wondered how many people might have thought the same about me. Still, he makes Dumbo look like an Indian elephant. Sorry, been watching the BBC Earth series.So when is this crap on? Tonight?

 

[Vikes Fan]

as long as they don't let that loser on with the gigantor ears from the fox show.

That's Andrew Siciliano...while he may not be a FF expert, he fills in for Jim Rome often and does an excellent job. I like him....

I like Siciliano as well. Every once in a while, I catch his evening Fox radio show.Now as for the Fox "Ultimate Fantasy Football Show"... That is brutal. I haven't watched it in a while, but Warren Moon and Eric Kramer would give advice like "Start Jake Plummer over Peyton Manning because Plummer is facing a weak (Baltimore) defense, while Manning will have a tough time completing passes against a tough foe (Minnesota)." That is painful.

He's not that bad, I just can't get over what a ##### he looks like. As I typed that, I wondered how many people might have thought the same about me. Still, he makes Dumbo look like an Indian elephant. Sorry, been watching the BBC Earth series.So when is this crap on? Tonight?

I was wondering when it was on too!!! It isn't tonight...I checked my sat. guide.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Seriously though .... as the "worldwide leader", wouldn't you expect them to aim a little higher in their assessments? I understand that they're trying to cater to the larger, non-fanatical masses, but if you're advertising yourself as the "worldwide leader", you should really try to set the bar higher. that's like Mercedes marketing themselves as a high-end car manufacturer, but then mass producing cheap minivans for the masses. I'm surprised that ESPN hasn't jumped on the celeb drunk-driving bandwagon and start reporting on which celeb is going to rehab. ESPN is the Entertainment Tonight of sports ... fluff-artists

From a dollars and cents business point of view, "most-popular" kicks "best product's" ### all day long. If you've gotta dumb down the conversation to keep more people tuned in that's what you're going to do.

But they are already talking about fantasy football.Why don't they just do it right? It isn't like fewer people are going to watch if they start to actually give advice/commentary that is legitimate. Real FF players might start to watch and they wouldn't lose their casual ones.It basically doesn't make sense to have a pannel talk about a subject they know very little about.

I think a lot of it probably revolves around their insistence on using ESPN personalities in their show. They may know about football, but they don't know much about fantasy football. ESPN probably thinks (right or wrong) that people won't tune in if they see nondescript experts taking all the screen time. I don't think ESPN really cares what kind of advice they give as long as people tune in, even if they just tune in to make fun of the little draft they do.

DINGDINGDING!You win a cookie. This is ESPN's biggest issue right now - they are in love with the entertainment portion of their name. BTW -- yes the Ultimate FOX show is brutal.

 

[burd]

While these types of shows aren't that informative to hard-core FF players, I think it's important to remember that most people who play fantasy football aren't rabid fanatics about it. They're not trying to appeal to FBGs members or else they'd lose the 90% who are more casual.

This is true -- but I think you could strike a much better balance and offer more than just beginner stuff.Plus, some of their advice - for beginners especially - is awful. If a beginner or casual FF owner watches this show and follows it;'s advice, they will lose in an embarrasing fashion. I mean, I wish the Brett Favre comment above was a joke but it just isn't.I don't remember - do they actually trot out their experts - Karabell and Engel and that bunch - for this?

Don't get me wrong - I don't think they do a good job either, even given the fact that they play to the lowest common denominator. It really looks like the people in charge of this programming are only giving FF lip-service - they know it's popular, but don't really know what to do with it. So they produce fluff. I agree that they could produce a better product that strikes a balance between hardcore & casual, and - gasp! - maybe educate people.But can you imagine if they started getting into dynamic VBD or talking about baselines? The bulk of their audience would be nothing but blank stares.

yeah ... you;re right ... never really thought about it like that.

 

[burd]

Seriously though .... as the "worldwide leader", wouldn't you expect them to aim a little higher in their assessments? I understand that they're trying to cater to the larger, non-fanatical masses, but if you're advertising yourself as the "worldwide leader", you should really try to set the bar higher. that's like Mercedes marketing themselves as a high-end car manufacturer, but then mass producing cheap minivans for the masses. I'm surprised that ESPN hasn't jumped on the celeb drunk-driving bandwagon and start reporting on which celeb is going to rehab. ESPN is the Entertainment Tonight of sports ... fluff-artists

From a dollars and cents business point of view, "most-popular" kicks "best product's" ### all day long. If you've gotta dumb down the conversation to keep more people tuned in that's what you're going to do.

But they are already talking about fantasy football.Why don't they just do it right? It isn't like fewer people are going to watch if they start to actually give advice/commentary that is legitimate. Real FF players might start to watch and they wouldn't lose their casual ones.It basically doesn't make sense to have a pannel talk about a subject they know very little about.

I think a lot of it probably revolves around their insistence on using ESPN personalities in their show. They may know about football, but they don't know much about fantasy football. ESPN probably thinks (right or wrong) that people won't tune in if they see nondescript experts taking all the screen time. I don't think ESPN really cares what kind of advice they give as long as people tune in, even if they just tune in to make fun of the little draft they do.

DINGDINGDING!You win a cookie. This is ESPN's biggest issue right now - they are in love with the entertainment portion of their name. BTW -- yes the Ultimate FOX show is brutal.

You know, at one time MTV was this great channel that everyone loved ... then they changed and tried to become more entertainment and they've haven't been the same since.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Seriously though .... as the "worldwide leader", wouldn't you expect them to aim a little higher in their assessments? I understand that they're trying to cater to the larger, non-fanatical masses, but if you're advertising yourself as the "worldwide leader", you should really try to set the bar higher. that's like Mercedes marketing themselves as a high-end car manufacturer, but then mass producing cheap minivans for the masses. I'm surprised that ESPN hasn't jumped on the celeb drunk-driving bandwagon and start reporting on which celeb is going to rehab. ESPN is the Entertainment Tonight of sports ... fluff-artists

From a dollars and cents business point of view, "most-popular" kicks "best product's" ### all day long. If you've gotta dumb down the conversation to keep more people tuned in that's what you're going to do.

But they are already talking about fantasy football.Why don't they just do it right? It isn't like fewer people are going to watch if they start to actually give advice/commentary that is legitimate. Real FF players might start to watch and they wouldn't lose their casual ones.It basically doesn't make sense to have a pannel talk about a subject they know very little about.

I think a lot of it probably revolves around their insistence on using ESPN personalities in their show. They may know about football, but they don't know much about fantasy football. ESPN probably thinks (right or wrong) that people won't tune in if they see nondescript experts taking all the screen time. I don't think ESPN really cares what kind of advice they give as long as people tune in, even if they just tune in to make fun of the little draft they do.

DINGDINGDING!You win a cookie. This is ESPN's biggest issue right now - they are in love with the entertainment portion of their name. BTW -- yes the Ultimate FOX show is brutal.

You know, at one time MTV was this great channel that everyone loved ... then they changed and tried to become more entertainment and they've haven't been the same since.

Yup.I still say you could do a balanced show that offered basics for the layman and then more advanced stuff (say, IDP) for those who have been playing a while. It would take some effort, but while a VBD discussion might cause sleep if done each week, a 5 minute or 10 minute segment each week on more advanced or offbeat elements would make a show seem less grade school.But ESPN barely even cares to make the show worthy of noob attention.