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[SteelerMurf]

Mort was on with the Colin Cowterd and they can't stop trying to defend themselves for making themselves look like absolute fools. In fact the Terd still claims he doesn't believe TO and that he really did try to attempt suicide.

Then Mort tries to backtrack on his report that Warner was benched...."but I did preface my report with an unless he has a change of heart"

ESPN has lost all credibility. They are like the national inquirer. Caddy has broken back, blah, blah, blah....

 

[packersfan]

With regard to the TO situation, has it been proven that the police report which clearly stated that Owens said he had tried to harm himself was fabricated? If not, I don't see any reason to criticize ESPN or the media in general in this instance for reporting the possible suicide attempt.

If it has been proven the police report was fabricated than I stand corrected.

 

[Two Deep]

With regard to the TO situation, has it been proven that the police report which clearly stated that Owens said he had tried to harm himself was fabricated? If not, I don't see any reason to criticize ESPN or the media in general in this instance for reporting the possible suicide attempt.If it has been proven the police report was fabricated than I stand corrected.

Yeah what he says.

 

[SteelerMurf]

With regard to the TO situation, has it been proven that the police report which clearly stated that Owens said he had tried to harm himself was fabricated? If not, I don't see any reason to criticize ESPN or the media in general in this instance for reporting the possible suicide attempt.If it has been proven the police report was fabricated than I stand corrected.

Nobody says it was fabricated. Emergency response teams can mis-interpret an overdose if the lady who makes the call says she thinks he overdosed their mind frame is towards that.Did you not see TO yesterday? Can you not see he did not overdose? He didn't take 35 pain killers. He did not have his stomach pumped either like it was falsely reported.ESPN runs with everything, they are a joke. They run TO 24/7 then blame TO for creating an atmosphere that makes them talk about TO all the time.And Cowterd goes on to say wouldn't you rather hear about TO than NFL game breakdowns....uhhhh no.

 

[cantrell]

ESPN has lost all credibility. They are like the national inquirer.

E! SPN

 

[Doug B]

With regard to the TO situation, has it been proven that the police report which clearly stated that Owens said he had tried to harm himself was fabricated? If not, I don't see any reason to criticize ESPN or the media in general in this instance for reporting the possible suicide attempt.

If it has been proven the police report was fabricated than I stand corrected.

This is how I feel. 999 times out of a 1000, a police report is rock-solid enough to run with. Without the existence and leak of this report, then yes ... I'd agree with the OP.As for Cowhrerd ... he's trying to solicit calls with his takes, of course. BUT: I don't think that disbelieving TO's explanation is crazy talk. Of course, there's no way to prove the "T.O. really attempted suicide and it was later covered up" take ... but at the same time, it's not an unreasonable opinion to hold.

 

[packersfan]

With regard to the TO situation, has it been proven that the police report which clearly stated that Owens said he had tried to harm himself was fabricated? If not, I don't see any reason to criticize ESPN or the media in general in this instance for reporting the possible suicide attempt.If it has been proven the police report was fabricated than I stand corrected.

Nobody says it was fabricated. Emergency response teams can mis-interpret an overdose if the lady who makes the call says she thinks he overdosed their mind frame is towards that.Did you not see TO yesterday? Can you not see he did not overdose? He didn't take 35 pain killers. He did not have his stomach pumped either like it was falsely reported.ESPN runs with everything, they are a joke. They run TO 24/7 then blame TO for creating an atmosphere that makes them talk about TO all the time.And Cowterd goes on to say wouldn't you rather hear about TO than NFL game breakdowns....uhhhh no.

I don't want to turn this into another TO debate. There's already a 900-page thread for that. But my personal opinion is I'm FAR more inclined to believe the police and paramedics than TO and his "assistant" even if he if a man of his "statue" does have "25 million reasons to live."

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

They did nothing wrong with regards to the TO situation. No one reported irresponsibly.

 

[Mooks77]

With regard to the TO situation, has it been proven that the police report which clearly stated that Owens said he had tried to harm himself was fabricated? If not, I don't see any reason to criticize ESPN or the media in general in this instance for reporting the possible suicide attempt.

If it has been proven the police report was fabricated than I stand corrected.

This is how I feel. 999 times out of a 1000, a police report is rock-solid enough to run with. Without the existence and leak of this report, then yes ... I'd agree with the OP.As for Cowhrerd ... he's trying to solicit calls with his takes, of course. BUT: I don't think that disbelieving TO's explanation is crazy talk. Of course, there's no way to prove the "T.O. really attempted suicide and it was later covered up" take ... but at the same time, it's not an unreasonable opinion to hold.

Actually, it is an unreasonable opinion to hold. If TO attempted to commit suicide he would still be in the hospital so they could monitor him. Secondly, the police would have filed charges against him since it is a crime to commit suicide. Cowherd is wrong, but Fox Sports Radio is just as bad as ESPN, they all talk about it non-stop. Where did all the creative minds go?

 

[packersfan]

With regard to the Warner report -- ESPN wasn't the only one to report he was going to be benched this week. NFL Network reported it as well. I really wonder (and this is just speculation on my part) if Green hedged because he didn't like having two networks announce that decision before he did. Again, that's speculation.

With regard to the Cadillac report, that was something aired on their fantasy show and not something that was reported by any of their legitimate NFL reporters. I was skeptical of it at the time for that very reason. If there really was a major injury involving Cadillac there was no way in hell it was going to be reported first by a fantasy reporter. In my opinion. But I do agree the network itself looks bad for airing a report that at the present time looks to be extremely inaccurate.

However, in their defense reports happen that aren't correct. It can happen to the best of networks and the best of beat writers. Many times, reporters write or broadcast something based on the compilation of information they have at the present time. But then something changes to alter the report. So a missed report or two isn't enough, in my opinion, for a reporter or a network to lose credibility.

Now if it happens on a repeated basis then things will change in my view. But until then I realize that even the best reporters are going to miss sometimes. Part of the job, no matter how good you are.

 

[sholditch]

ESPN totally sucks ###.

 

[Doug B]

He did not have his stomach pumped either like it was falsely reported.

You know ... what happened with this? This was confirmed fact for a few hours yesterday morning ... then it just poof!, goes away. Could someone have recanted their testimony? Did someone straight up BS a reporter? What was up?

 

[Trap Play]

E! SPN

, very clever.

 

[Sheriff66]

Mort was on with the Colin Cowterd and they can't stop trying to defend themselves for making themselves look like absolute fools. In fact the Terd still claims he doesn't believe TO and that he really did try to attempt suicide.

Then Mort tries to backtrack on his report that Warner was benched...."but I did preface my report with an unless he has a change of heart"

ESPN has lost all credibility. They are like the national inquirer. Caddy has broken back, blah, blah, blah....

I don't believe TO either to be honest, seems like a bunch of "damage control" going on with TO and his clique....

 

[Sheriff66]

He did not have his stomach pumped either like it was falsely reported.

You know ... what happened with this? This was confirmed fact for a few hours yesterday morning ... then it just poof!, goes away. Could someone have recanted their testimony? Did someone straight up BS a reporter? What was up?

I read they induced vomitting, not pumped his stomach, which he can go on TV and say" they didn't pump my stomach" without lying...

 

[Doug B]

If TO attempted to commit suicide he would still be in the hospital so they could monitor him.

YMMV, but I fully believe that celebrities could get treated differently in this situation. I also believe that the team could pull strings to get T.O. out of observation. Just my opinion, can't prove jack ... I realize that.

Secondly, the police would have filed charges against him since it is a crime to commit suicide.

My understanding is that this is true in most of the U.S., but not true in Texas. I'm interested to learn differently.

... Fox Sports Radio is just as bad as ESPN, they all talk about it non-stop. Where did all the creative minds go?

With you here. Just because there's room for doubt (IMHO), that doesn't mean the sports world has stopped turning.

 

[John Mamula]

So don't listen. What's the problem here exactly?

 

[Sheriff66]

If TO attempted to commit suicide he would still be in the hospital so they could monitor him.

YMMV, but I fully believe that celebrities could get treated differently in this situation. I also believe that the team could pull strings to get T.O. out of observation. Just my opinion, can't prove jack ... I realize that.

Secondly, the police would have filed charges against him since it is a crime to commit suicide.

My understanding is that this is true in most of the U.S., but not true in Texas. I'm interested to learn differently.

... Fox Sports Radio is just as bad as ESPN, they all talk about it non-stop. Where did all the creative minds go?

With you here. Just because there's room for doubt (IMHO), that doesn't mean the sports world has stopped turning.

Not a crime in Texas to attempt suicide...

 

[Doug B]

I read they induced vomitting, not pumped his stomach, which he can go on TV and say" they didn't pump my stomach" without lying...

Thanks for this info. Makes a lot of difference to me ... I realize others' MMV.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

ESPN did nothing wrong in trying to report the story yesterday based on the information that was out prior to the press conference.

I haven't enjoyed Herd much lately but he was gold today when ripping on Kim "Hoochee Momma" Etheridge.

 

[houndirish]

The guy who drives me crazy is Eric Cassillias (sp?) He's so damn condescending. Yesterday afternnon he basically told the entire listening audience that if they didn't believe TO tried to kill himself they were dumb or loyal to TO/Cowboys to a fault .... which I assume is another way of saying your dumb.

I'd be willing to bet Cassillias doesn't spend a minute on the TO story today and if he does will back off his comments and blame the newsreporting process for misinformation. Hello Eric ... you are the newsreporting process!

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

I read they induced vomitting, not pumped his stomach, which he can go on TV and say" they didn't pump my stomach" without lying...

Thanks for this info. Makes a lot of difference to me ... I realize others' MMV.

A nurse came on the sports radio station in Dallas yesterday and, according to him, stomach-pumping doesn't really happen very often anymore. In a case like this, they give the ODer an anti-narcotic and some type (liquid?) of charcoal, allowing the drugs to pass through your system.

 

[Doug B]

I don't believe TO either to be honest, seems like a bunch of "damage control" going on tihe TO and his clique....

But you know ... if someone said "he didn't really try to kill himself" ... I could go with that. After all, he didn't use a gun, or jump off a tall building, or something. IMHO, the overdose may have been one of those "cry for help" attempts with foreknowledge that he could be saved later on and could plausibly deny it later on. Risky as he!!, of course, to carry this out.

 

[Sheriff66]

I don't believe TO either to be honest, seems like a bunch of "damage control" going on tihe TO and his clique....

But you know ... if someone said "he didn't really try to kill himself" ... I could go with that. After all, he didn't use a gun, or jump off a tall building, or something. IMHO, the overdose may have been one of those "cry for help" attempts with foreknowledge that he could be saved later on and could plausibly deny it later on. Risky as he!!, of course, to carry this out.

This is what I believe happened....If he said the rest of the pills were "in a drawer" , why didn't anyone go to his house, confirm the story that the pills were indeed in the drawer, and clear his name ?

Because it's BS IMO...

 

[Couch Potato]

ESPN totally sucks ###.

Not sure how old you are, but I remember when the extent of sports news was 2 minutes of scores a night, following the weather guy. I can live with an error here and there.

 

[sholditch]

Induced vomiting or not, unless TO is a seriously hardened pill addict, there is no way he could look normal after taking 35 Vicodin. This isn't tylenol folks. That's pretty much the equivalent of a heroin overdose.

 

[Doug B]

Induced vomiting or not, unless TO is a seriously hardened pill addict, there is no way he could look normal after taking 35 Vicodin.

If the vicodins didn't get far into the intestines ... yes, he could have.Blood stream absorption of anything taken orally -- nutrients in food, water, medicines, etc. largely happens past the stomach. The stomach accounts for a very small percentage of nutrient intake -- the small intestine does the heavy lifting here.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Induced vomiting or not, unless TO is a seriously hardened pill addict, there is no way he could look normal after taking 35 Vicodin. This isn't tylenol folks. That's pretty much the equivalent of a heroin overdose.

That's not what a nurse said on the radio yesterday. They can give you stuff to quickly counteract that stuff.

 

[Doug B]

If he said the rest of the pills were "in a drawer" , why didn't anyone go to his house, confirm the story that the pills were indeed in the drawer, and clear his name ?

Do we know whether or not someone went and eyeballed the vicodins in a drawer? If we don't know that, then it's very much reasonable to disbelieve T.O., because that was one of the lynchpins of his account.

 

[Todem]

With regard to the TO situation, has it been proven that the police report which clearly stated that Owens said he had tried to harm himself was fabricated? If not, I don't see any reason to criticize ESPN or the media in general in this instance for reporting the possible suicide attempt.If it has been proven the police report was fabricated than I stand corrected.

Nobody says it was fabricated. Emergency response teams can mis-interpret an overdose if the lady who makes the call says she thinks he overdosed their mind frame is towards that.Did you not see TO yesterday? Can you not see he did not overdose? He didn't take 35 pain killers. He did not have his stomach pumped either like it was falsely reported.ESPN runs with everything, they are a joke. They run TO 24/7 then blame TO for creating an atmosphere that makes them talk about TO all the time.And Cowterd goes on to say wouldn't you rather hear about TO than NFL game breakdowns....uhhhh no.

Very Well said, and ESPN has stooped to new low's and you can't rely on any mass media anymore. It has gotten to point of no control. Media outlets need to be held somewhat responsible and liable for smearing people and causing mental anguish when they are wrong. Freedom of speech is one thing and I love our right to it, but this is slander to me, pure slander and horrendous journalism if you can even call it that anymore. If I were TO I would file a lawsuit against the Dallas reporter that broke this BS story before he made sure he had all the facts straight. It is out of control.

 

[Todem]

ESPN totally sucks ###.

Not sure how old you are, but I remember when the extent of sports news was 2 minutes of scores a night, following the weather guy. I can live with an error here and there.

This is not an error, this is slander. That is a problem. I feel for anyone who is subject to a report that is false. It can ruin your life. Just ask the So called Atlanta bomber at the 1996 games. His life was turned upside down to say the least and he was totaly cleared and was publicaly lynched.

 

[NYCGangGreen]

Yes i think ESPN has made some bad calls in the last few weeks or whatever. But they only do that because of the insatiable appetite of us the viewers to know whats going on when it happens at that exact moment.

There is always a cloud of unsurity when reporting on a topic that just breaks and of course they are going to go with makes the most sense or seems obvious at that time.

But if there weren't millions of people glued in to find out what happened they would have time to verify their sources/leads and then report on it. But it is the viewers that put the pressure on them to report it immediately or else they get "Why did they wait so long to report?" and by reporting immediately they get "They gave us wrong information!!!"

I am never a fan of be mis-informed, but sometimes we need to take accountability on it too....if we would give them a break in the time it takes to reach us, all the false claims would be cleared.

I am all for ESPN.....where else do you get non-stop sports coverage? here in LA lord know not from Jim Hill and his mono-tone reporting.

Oh but i still think Mort is a moron!

 

[Sheriff66]

If he said the rest of the pills were "in a drawer" , why didn't anyone go to his house, confirm the story that the pills were indeed in the drawer, and clear his name ?

Do we know whether or not someone went and eyeballed the vicodins in a drawer? If we don't know that, then it's very much reasonable to disbelieve T.O., because that was one of the lynchpins of his account.

Nobody went back to his house to confirm this, so we are having to take his word on it, and I think he's full of it. If he could have it confirmed 100% the pills were there, you can bet he would have, he is just looking to not get stuck on the Non Injury list so he can continue to get paid.

 

[Sheriff66]

With regard to the TO situation, has it been proven that the police report which clearly stated that Owens said he had tried to harm himself was fabricated? If not, I don't see any reason to criticize ESPN or the media in general in this instance for reporting the possible suicide attempt.

If it has been proven the police report was fabricated than I stand corrected.

Nobody says it was fabricated. Emergency response teams can mis-interpret an overdose if the lady who makes the call says she thinks he overdosed their mind frame is towards that.Did you not see TO yesterday? Can you not see he did not overdose? He didn't take 35 pain killers. He did not have his stomach pumped either like it was falsely reported.

ESPN runs with everything, they are a joke. They run TO 24/7 then blame TO for creating an atmosphere that makes them talk about TO all the time.

And Cowterd goes on to say wouldn't you rather hear about TO than NFL game breakdowns....uhhhh no.

Very Well said, and ESPN has stooped to new low's and you can't rely on any mass media anymore. It has gotten to point of no control. Media outlets need to be held somewhat responsible and liable for smearing people and causing mental anguish when they are wrong. Freedom of speech is one thing and I love our right to it, but this is slander to me, pure slander and horrendous journalism if you can even call it that anymore. If I were TO I would file a lawsuit against the Dallas reporter that broke this BS story before he made sure he had all the facts straight. It is out of control.

He could....but won't because he knows he is not telling the truth. If he had a leg to stand on, he would sue them, believe it, but then the medical records would come out and he doesn't want that...

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

With regard to the TO situation, has it been proven that the police report which clearly stated that Owens said he had tried to harm himself was fabricated? If not, I don't see any reason to criticize ESPN or the media in general in this instance for reporting the possible suicide attempt.If it has been proven the police report was fabricated than I stand corrected.

Nobody says it was fabricated. Emergency response teams can mis-interpret an overdose if the lady who makes the call says she thinks he overdosed their mind frame is towards that.Did you not see TO yesterday? Can you not see he did not overdose? He didn't take 35 pain killers. He did not have his stomach pumped either like it was falsely reported.ESPN runs with everything, they are a joke. They run TO 24/7 then blame TO for creating an atmosphere that makes them talk about TO all the time.And Cowterd goes on to say wouldn't you rather hear about TO than NFL game breakdowns....uhhhh no.

Very Well said, and ESPN has stooped to new low's and you can't rely on any mass media anymore. It has gotten to point of no control. Media outlets need to be held somewhat responsible and liable for smearing people and causing mental anguish when they are wrong. Freedom of speech is one thing and I love our right to it, but this is slander to me, pure slander and horrendous journalism if you can even call it that anymore. If I were TO I would file a lawsuit against the Dallas reporter that broke this BS story before he made sure he had all the facts straight. It is out of control.

WTF are you talking about? ESPN and any other media outlet did what they were supposed to do yesterday when an ACTUAL police report surfaced that had details about a "possible suicide attempt".The Dallas reporter is standing by the information as well.Since you seem be know so much about this....how would have you covered this yesterday? Also, if you want to discuss "liable and smearing people" what did Kim "Hoochee Momma" Etheridge do yesterday by calling the Dallas police department liars?

 

[Doug B]

Nobody went back to his house to confirm this, so we are having to take his word on it, and I think he's full of it.

See, this is the thing -- it's one party's word against the other. There's not much good evidence being offered, just someone's word. No videotape of T.O.'s interview with police (probably doesn't exist). No check of his house for the pills in a drawer. No tape of any stomach-clearing procedures (apparently, not a pumping).

 

[Sheriff66]

Nobody went back to his house to confirm this, so we are having to take his word on it, and I think he's full of it.

See, this is the thing -- it's one party's word against the other. There's not much good evidence being offered, just someone's word. No videotape of T.O.'s interview with police (probably doesn't exist). No check of his house for the pills in a drawer. No tape of any stomach-clearing procedures (apparently, not a pumping).

I hear what you are saying, but after all of TO's antics, plus the confirmation of the pills being in the drawer would have HELPED TO, I'm tending to believe he is a liar.

 

[NYCGangGreen]

Nobody went back to his house to confirm this, so we are having to take his word on it, and I think he's full of it.

See, this is the thing -- it's one party's word against the other. There's not much good evidence being offered, just someone's word. No videotape of T.O.'s interview with police (probably doesn't exist). No check of his house for the pills in a drawer. No tape of any stomach-clearing procedures (apparently, not a pumping).

It wasn't a criminal act, so police would have no purpose or right to go into his house and look for the "other pills". Either way, they guy is breathing...practicing and possibly playing Sunday. What else to this do we need to add? Can we just move on...??? yes something stupid probably did or didn't happen. Either way, it;s over. Can we lock this for once an for all?

 

[pdlglm]

Reporters are just jack##### who were too stupid to go the full monty and get a law degree. That they are sensationalist, condescending liars should come as no suprise.

ESPN is now the former soviet union... "trust", but verify.

 

[Todem]

When the guy is standing in front of reporters at 3:15 pm and just came off the practice field, the assumption off a Police report without gathering all the facts from the hospital and the actual person is nuts. They jumped on a story based on a police report which can sometimes be inaacurate. Get your facts straight before going out and saying someone tried to kill themself.

Yeah TO took 35 Pain pills. Are you kidding me? Did not happen with the way he was totaly cohernet yesterday.

Since when are Police reports the end all and the absolute truth and fact? You are innocent until proven guilty.

The breaking of this story is indicative of the media hysteria this country has turned into. That is my point. It is out of hand the way the various media outlets want to be the first to have the scoop before getting all the facts that are vital to the actual story and the truth.

 

[Sheriff66]

Nobody went back to his house to confirm this, so we are having to take his word on it, and I think he's full of it.

See, this is the thing -- it's one party's word against the other. There's not much good evidence being offered, just someone's word. No videotape of T.O.'s interview with police (probably doesn't exist). No check of his house for the pills in a drawer. No tape of any stomach-clearing procedures (apparently, not a pumping).

It wasn't a criminal act, so police would have no purpose or right to go into his house and look for the "other pills". Either way, they guy is breathing...practicing and possibly playing Sunday. What else to this do we need to add? Can we just move on...??? yes something stupid probably did or didn't happen. Either way, it;s over. Can we lock this for once an for all?

Is this a Joe Bryant alias ? If you don't want to read about it, get out of the thread rookie...

 

[Sheriff66]

When the guy is standing in front of reporters at 3:15 pm and just came off the practice field, the assumption off a Police report without gathering all the facts from the hospital and the actual person is nuts. They jumped on a story based on a police report which can sometimes be inaacurate. Get your facts straight before going out and saying someone tried to kill themself. Yeah TO took 35 Pain pills. Are you kidding me? Did not happen with the way he was totaly cohernet yesterday.Since when are Police reports the end all and the absolute truth and fact? You are innocent until proven guilty. The breaking of this story is indicative of the media hysteria this country has turned into. That is my point. It is out of hand the way the various media outlets want to be the first to have the scoop before getting all the facts that are vital to the actual story and the truth.

So when TO wants the media to paste his mug all over my TV, he's cool with it, but when he doesn't want pub for something of this nature, the media should just go away ??? Can't have it both ways...

 

[TitusIII]

When the guy is standing in front of reporters at 3:15 pm and just came off the practice field, the assumption off a Police report without gathering all the facts from the hospital and the actual person is nuts. They jumped on a story based on a police report which can sometimes be inaacurate. Get your facts straight before going out and saying someone tried to kill themself. Yeah TO took 35 Pain pills. Are you kidding me? Did not happen with the way he was totaly cohernet yesterday.Since when are Police reports the end all and the absolute truth and fact? You are innocent until proven guilty. The breaking of this story is indicative of the media hysteria this country has turned into. That is my point. It is out of hand the way the various media outlets want to be the first to have the scoop before getting all the facts that are vital to the actual story and the truth.

People dislike TO, and will believe anything that paints him in a negative light.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

When the guy is standing in front of reporters at 3:15 pm and just came off the practice field, the assumption off a Police report without gathering all the facts from the hospital and the actual person is nuts. They jumped on a story based on a police report which can sometimes be inaacurate. Get your facts straight before going out and saying someone tried to kill themself. Yeah TO took 35 Pain pills. Are you kidding me? Did not happen with the way he was totaly cohernet yesterday.Since when are Police reports the end all and the absolute truth and fact? You are innocent until proven guilty. The breaking of this story is indicative of the media hysteria this country has turned into. That is my point. It is out of hand the way the various media outlets want to be the first to have the scoop before getting all the facts that are vital to the actual story and the truth.

How can they get their facts straight when no one knows the facts yet? One fact is that an actual policy report was released that stated Hoochee Momma used the word depressed and that TO stated he answered "yes" when asked if he tried to hurt himself.

 

[Sheriff66]

When the guy is standing in front of reporters at 3:15 pm and just came off the practice field, the assumption off a Police report without gathering all the facts from the hospital and the actual person is nuts. They jumped on a story based on a police report which can sometimes be inaacurate. Get your facts straight before going out and saying someone tried to kill themself. Yeah TO took 35 Pain pills. Are you kidding me? Did not happen with the way he was totaly cohernet yesterday.Since when are Police reports the end all and the absolute truth and fact? You are innocent until proven guilty. The breaking of this story is indicative of the media hysteria this country has turned into. That is my point. It is out of hand the way the various media outlets want to be the first to have the scoop before getting all the facts that are vital to the actual story and the truth.

People dislike TO, and will believe anything that paints him in a negative light.

I'm a TO fan, always liked him and still do, but I think he's full of it on this one, the whole pills "in the drawer" thing is totally unbelieveable IMO...

 

[Doug B]

I hear what you are saying, but after all of TO's antics, plus the confirmation of the pills being in the drawer would have HELPED TO, I'm tending to believe he is a liar.

Make no mistake -- I'm agreeing with you pretty much 100%. I'm just lamenting the lack of evidence to confirm either version. NYCGG makes a good point about there being no criminal investigation ... that alone will keep a lot of info from getting discovered and released to the public.

 

[Doug B]

People dislike TO, and will believe anything that paints him in a negative light.

Beleive it or don't believe it ... that's not the case here. I don't think a suicide attempt puts him in a negative light ... unless needing help is a negative

 

[Todem]

I am just trying to use some common sense on the fact he was having a serious reaction to the pills and was incoherent when he was being asked those questions, I think the facts are indeed muddy, but one thing that common sense is telling me was there is no way he took 35 pills and was trying to overdose. He was practicing yesterday before his press conference.

End of Story when I saw that.

I am sure if he was having serious mental problems( which most think he has anyway) he would not be back anytime soon. He is getting ready to play football this Sunday. There is no more story in my eyes. I don't think the Cowboys would be so mum if they felt he had tried to harm himself.

 

[Doug B]

Since when are Police reports the end all and the absolute truth and fact?

They're normally admissible in court.And then, your comment begs the question raised in this thread earlier -- was the initial police report falsified? Keep in mind, the initial report contained some of T.O.'s testimony (not caught on tape, unfortunately). We get back to the "he-said-she-said" thing -- either the report is false, or T.O.'s later statements are.

 

[Sheriff66]

I hear what you are saying, but after all of TO's antics, plus the confirmation of the pills being in the drawer would have HELPED TO, I'm tending to believe he is a liar.

Make no mistake -- I'm agreeing with you pretty much 100%. I'm just lamenting the lack of evidence to confirm either version. NYCGG makes a good point about there being no criminal investigation ... that alone will keep a lot of info from getting discovered and released to the public.

Exactly, that's why he's not worried, nobody will EVER know if the pills were in the drawer or not, and the medical record cannot be released. He's free to say the pills were "in the drawer" and never worry about being busted....until his publicist writes her book 5-10 years from now.