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Fantasy Extravaganza: Top 30 RB's (1 Viewer)

JGalligan

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With approximately 75 fantasy football magazines currently available at any given supermarket and the pre-season officially underway, it's safe to assume that the fantasy football season has officially begun. In order to get myself ready, and because I'm so nice, I have ranked the top 30 skill position players and then provided the in-depth commentary on why I have done so. Will my rankings differ from yours or many of the other rankings out there? Uh, is an apple different than a stapler?

Opinions on all rankings will vary, but just remember that all of the rankings out there are just that, opinion and speculation. The rankings reflect the author's knowledge but most importantly, his gut. The major benefit we get from reading someone else's rankings is the discussions that follow. Some will have you nodding your head, while others will have you wishing the guy was in your money league because he would basically be a bye week. You'll all likely be doing so after you read who's number one, but I'm ready to defend it. I just think he's going to have the best year out of anyone on the list.

As always, enjoy and feel free to disagree vehemently while calling for my head in your replies!

HONORABLE MENTIONS: Rudi Johnson, Kevin Smith and (gasp) Selvin Young.

TOP 30 FANTASY RUNNING BACKS

30. Jonathan Stewart (CAR) - Although my support for DeAngelo Williams is well documented, even I can't deny that the talented rookie Jonathan Stewart will win the Panthers starting job. He has power, he has speed and he apparently has the support of nearly every single person in the Panthers organization save for Williams himself. Barring a major setback in his recovery from a turf toe injury, Stewart should be the new rusher in town as well as provide your team with a decent amount of fantasy points.

29. Julius Jones (SEA) - Even though Jones never did stand out in the Cowboys offense, playing second fiddle to Marion 'The Barbarian' Barber and all, a change of scenery and a new offense that will favor the running game might be just what Julius needs. T.J. Duckett will take much of the goal lines carries away, but Jones should be given the bulk of the overall workload. He's definitely an upside pick, so don't put too much stake in him or you may regret it when he puts up similar stats from when he was in Dallas.

28. Rashard Mendenhall (PIT) - Regardless of Willie Parker's rankings free fall due to his broken leg and low 2007 TD total, he will still be the go to guy in Pittsburgh. Mendenhall on the other hand is an upside pick with not a lot of risk since he's going to be getting most of the goal line carries and spelling an often fragile Parker, anyway.

27. LenDale White (TEN) - Despite playing in an offense with hardly any passing game, White sprung upon the scene last year with 1,108 yards and 7 TD's. With this being Vince Young's second year with his primary receivers, White should enjoy an increased amount of defenses dropping more people back to defend the pass. Or at least that's what the Titans organization hopes. Regardless, even though rookie Chris Johnson may spell him, White should see the majority of carries and goal line attempts.

26. Thomas Jones (NYJ) - The fact that T.J. had a total of two TD's last year has overshadowed that he managed to rack up 1,119 yards behind one of the worst lines in the league. The off-season signings of Alan Faneca and Damien Woody should ensure that he will at least have a competent offensive line. It's a risky pick because he’s either going to excel with his improved blockers or flop and show everyone that he just doesn't have what it takes to be a starter. That decision is up to you.

25. Darren McFadden (OAK) - Despite being touted as the best back in the NFL draft, McFadden is not the top back in most running back rankings. This is likely due to the fact that McFadden will be lining up behind JaMarcus Russell, who is still technically a rookie himself. Since it takes inexperienced quarterbacks a lot longer to get acquainted with the game than their running back counterparts, McFadden will get a plethora of carries and an official diploma from the NFL's rookie running back university.

24. Fred Taylor (JAX) - The past couple years has seen Fred Taylor do the exact opposite of what everyone had predicted him to do, with that opposite being him producing. Taylor has had more than 1100 yards and at least 5 TD's in each of his last two seasons. While it's hard to imagine him just suddenly dropping off, he is 32 years old and it is going to happen eventually. The question is, when? With Maurice Jones Drew entering his third season and maturing all the while, Taylor may still be productive this year but not enough to warrant a key RB spot on your roster. Although he is a solid and safe late round pick. Do with it what you will.

23. Matt Forte (CHI) - With news of the release of team castoff and Ricky Williams-esque Cedric Benson, Forte's stock has soared. Even before he was the unanimous number one back on the roster, Forte had created a buzz that was not heard during the Draft due to his emergence from Conference USA. Although the Bears themselves have proclaimed the rookie as their starter, he still finds himself on the Bears offense which has question marks at quarterback, wide receiver and pretty much ever single position except for running back. So despite him getting the majority of all the carries, don't expect his rookie year to be Adrian Peterson-esque. Think more along the lines of a poor mans, rookie Marshawn Lynch.

22. Michael Turner (ATL) - How Michael Turner will turn out can likely be put in a better perspective when you take into account his performance last year when he filled in for an injured L.T. in the playoffs. Although 3.8 yards per carry isn't necessarily bad, it was a bit worse than his career average that he'd racked up shredding fatigued defenses as Tomlinson's backup until that point. That was then. Now, Turner finds himself on a Falcons team that is in the process of rebuilding with inexperience at many key parts of the offense. Although you wouldn't know it by looking at his contract, Turner's quarterback Matt Ryan is actually a rookie, who will go through the learning curves that plague all rookie signal callers.

21. Edgerrin James (ARI) - Edge has officially turned the magical yet dreadful age of 30, which is the benchmark age for when running backs will begin to decline. After a largely disappointing 2006 considering his success in Indianapolis, Edge improved slightly in 2007 in yards, average and TD's. Although 1,224 yards and 7 TD's isn't necessarily bad, it is safe to say that it may be very close to his ceiling now that he's turned the big three-oh. Even with promise of a more balanced attack, the Cardinals offensive line is still unfortunately the same and it is likely Edgerrin's stats will stay that way as well.

20. Willie Parker (PIT) - With Parker's 11 TD decline from 2006 into 2007, breaking his leg late in the season didn't help his fantasy stock. The arrival of rookie Rashard Mendenhall also didn't bode well for his future TD total either. What Parker does bring to the table is the yardage that he racks up. He is still an incredibly skilled rusher that can put up big numbers on the ground no matter how TD-less or injury prone his season may be.

19. Brandon Jacobs (N.Y.G.) - The heir to Tiki Barber's throne after his retirement, Jacobs proved he could handle the job when healthy. Unfortunately for Jacobs, so did Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw. Bradshaw's recent court troubles could get him suspended if the event in question happened post-draft. A Bradshaw suspension could be all Jacobs needs to claim the starters spot once and for all so it would behoove you to keep an eye on the situation.

18. Jamal Lewis (CLE) - Even though the Browns offense and more importantly offensive line have largely remained the same, many are still doubting Lewis can repeat his 2007 success. Without a suitable backup or a threat to steal some of his goal line carries, the only thing that could stop Lewis from continuing upon last year's success is either injury or age. Lewis is approaching 30 and the enormous amount of carries he has on his odometer has to take it's toll at some point. It's hard to imagine his decline happening so quickly and suddenly without some type of injury, though.

17. Lawrence Maroney (N.E.) - Being the RB on one of the best passing games of all time doesn't leave you in a position to get tons of carries. Nor does it help having a coach who likes to spell his backfield every two downs or so. Entering his 3rd season and with Kevin Faulk likely to see a decreased role, Maroney is a prime candidate to breakout this year. Unfortunately, 'breaking out' for a running back on the Patriots offense means about 1,100 yards and 8 TD's. On the bright side, that's still better than Rudi Johnson who you targeted last year.

16. Reggie Bush (N.O.) - Reggie Bush is a classic case of too much hype due to college performance. Although Bush has proven he is a worthy complimentary rusher and a skilled receiving back, the Barry Sanders like expectations have left many disappointed after his first two seasons in the league. With his rushing skills likely to improve over time, it may just take him a few more years until he's a suitable starter. Even in his current complimentary situation, his rushing yards and receiving yards combined equal enough points to make him a worthy target in your draft. Not to mention his ceiling would have him turning into a Brian Westbrook type back. Not bad. I we think we can finally chill out with comparing Hall of Fame players to rookies that are being drafted, though. No?

15. Earnest Graham (T.B.) - Graham proved to be one of the most valuable, out-of-the-blue waiver wire pickups of the 2008 season. The only option after injuries to Cadillac Williams and Michael Pittman, Graham nearly rumbled himself to 1,000 yards, finishing instead with 898 and 10TD's. With Warrick Dunn’s return to Tampa, Graham will likely lose some carries, but he can easily claim the starting spot if he can prove that last year wasn't a fluke. 175 fantasy points if you can guess correctly!

14. Ronnie Brown (MIA) - Although his recovery from an ACL tear is a major concern, Brown benefits from sustaining the injury early in the season last year as well as returning to a vastly improved Dolphins offense. With Ricky Williams back in town, he likely won't need to carry all of the load immediately as long as Williams stays away from the reefer. Brown is still a risky pick, but as 602 yards and 7 TD's in 7 games last year showed, not one without a potential hefty reward.

13. Willis McGahee (BAL) - Even though the Ravens have major question marks on offense, the rushing game is not one of them. A top notch rusher and capable receiver, McGahee should top 300 carries for the first time since 2005 due to the sub-par and inexperienced options at quarterback. Although his new and improved ACL will be tested under such a workload, if he can handle the strain and put up his usual numbers than his fantasy numbers will be just fine. Even if he is in on one of the worst offensive units in the game.

12. Larry Johnson (K.C.) - A slow start, poor passing game and foot injury all contributed to Johnson's worst season as a starter last year. Even if he can avoid the slow start and injuries this year, the Chiefs still have no passing attack and the shoddy offensive line remains the same. Although he'll get his carries, he will also be the focal point of every defense the team plays. Good thing we've seen what he can do before so you can educated decision on whether or not to take the gamble. The upside is high, although the downside is low. Take your pick.

11. Maurice Jones-Drew (JAX) - Even with Fred Taylor still going strong, Jones-Drew should slowly but surely take over primary back duties. With a rushing average of a bit more than 5 yards per carry average in his first two years, superb hands out of the backfield and game breaking ability, Jones-Drew's low touches are overshadowed by his supreme upside. Whenever he takes over the reigns in Jacksonville and gets more time on the field, expect his value to skyrocket up the charts. Even if this year is not his year, he still pumps out a solid amount of fantasy points and presents upside that is hard to pass up on.

10. Ryan Grant (G.B.) - Grant won biggest out-of-the-blue honors in 2007 and helped many teams win championships had they had the clarity to pick him. I for one ended up taking Priest Holmes over Grant with my last waiver wire pick up in my keeper league. Suffice to say, I did not make the playoffs and will probably never forgive myself. Grant placed a firm hold on the starter position with his end of the season performances last year and isn't realistically threatened by anyone as long as he can continue production and stay away from injuries. Therein lies the catch, however. The question is if Grant will be able to continue his break-out year last year and stay away from the injuries that can plague a starting RB. All aren't huge concerns but worth taking into account should you find yourself about to draft him.

9. Marion Barber (DAL) - Anyone with the nickname 'The Barbarian' had to have earned it somewhere down the line and it's no surprise if you've seen Barber run. He is a powerful, agile back who doesn't stop running until the whistle blows. He has a wreck less abandon for anything but positive yardage and ultimately the end zone. Even with Jerry Jones favorite Felix Jones being plugged into the offense and taking some carries away, Barber will be the goal line back and Barber will get the majority of the carries. You can't be the best back on one of the best offenses in the league for nothing, you know.

8. Frank Gore (S.F.) - Gore's 1,102 rushing yards, 436 receiving yards and 6 total TD's isn't very impressive at first glance, but take into account that he did it all on the worst offense and the league and you've got yourself a better picture. Gore was the only bright spot on an otherwise anemic 49ers offense last year. Having brought in Mike Martz to fix the offense has caused many people to declare Gore a sleeper for next year. Since I still don't know the correct definition of sleeper, all I will say is that if Martz can turn Alex Smith into a competent QB than Gore has the talent to reap all of the rushing and receiving rewards a Martz system has to offer the starting RB. His rushing total may go down, but his receptions, receiving yards and total TD's should all go up. Cha-ching!

7. Marshawn Lynch (BUF) - Lynch is another RB who put up impressive stats on a not-so-impressive offense. In 13 games last year he ran for 1,115 yards and 7 TD's. With Trent Edwards looking to be everything J.P. Losman was not, Lynch at least has a suitable and blossoming passing game to take some attention away from him. Rumor has it that the Bills will also be utilizing Lynch's pass catching skills a lot more this year which in layman's terms means he'll be on the field even more. An injury last year is a small concern as to his dependability, but a year through the gauntlet should have taught him what it takes to be a starter in the NFL.

6. Clinton Portis (WAS) - Portis returned to pre-2006 form last year, finishing in the Top 5 for fantasy points accrued. A new system has turned some people off as to Portis' 2008 potential, but he is too talented a player not to utilize half of the offensive play calling on. Though he'll likely see less carries, Portis should still fare just fine, especially considering his pass catching skills. Portis caught 47 balls for 389 yards last year and although he'll get less carries, he'll get more receptions. It all evens out. Trust me.

5. Joseph Addai (IND) - Although Addai didn't get as many yards as the top RB's last year, he more than compensated with his end zone trips. Addai had 15 total TD's last year to pair with a solid 1,072 rushing yards and 364 reception yards. He's the top back on one of the most prolific offenses in the game, but his total upside keeps him out of the upper-echelon. If your looking for a safe pick who will have plenty of opportunities to score TD's than Addai is your guy. Although enjoying Peyton Manning's commercials also helps.

4. Stephen Jackson (STL) - In only twelve games and behind one of the worst offensive lines in the game, Jackson still managed to amass just over 1,000 yards and tack on 6 total TD's. With a healthy offensive line and a more run-heavy offense, Jackson could very well return to pre-2007 form, where he was in the conversation for top running back overall. He gives you rushing yards, he gives you reception yards and he scores TD's. Injuries are a problem due to last year, but should his offensive line remain healthy, he should cruise through the season with little to no problems.

3. Adrian Peterson (MIN) - As fantastic as Peterson was last year and as much hype as he caused, I still find it hard to rank a back who's had one fantastic year over a back who's had them for his entire seven-year career. Peterson very well could prove that he's the top running back in the game this year, however his quarterback is questionable and his backup running back proved he could do a suitable job if given spell-carries. If A.P. can have an equally impressive Year 2, he'll not only win over just me, he'll likely win over the entire game of professional football. We'll be watching!

2. LaDainian Tomlinson (S.D.) - Tomlinson has basically been a machine until he showed us his mortality with an MCL injury in the playoffs. He has been the face of fantasy football since he stormed upon the league in 2001 and with good reason: He can run, he can catch, he can score and if you haven't heard -- he's awfully classy! With the birthday cake reading 29 this year, L.T. may finally see the decline we thought impossible for so many years. Even so, he'll still likely put up top-notch numbers this year and many years down the road. His upside is way too high to not warrant him at least a number 2 ranking.

1. Brian Westbrook (PHI) - After gaining sole control of the Eagles RB spot sometime in 2005, Brian Westbrook has made a steady improvement in his game and more importantly, his fantasy points. The year 2006 saw the biggest jump while Westbrook showed us in 2007 then he can run for more yards as well as improve on his already ridiculous reception numbers. Going into 2008 he is the whole package. He does everything you could want from your featured fantasy running back and he does it while proving his injury critics incorrect. Having played in 15 games in each of the last two seasons, Westbrook is slated for perhaps the finest season of his career in 2008. At age 28, he could very well have his peak season this year. Even if he has peaked and he backpedals a bit, 240 fantasy points isn't too bad for a RB's low side is it? Is it? Hello? Is anyone still reading this?

 
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Westbrook has never proven he can score enough TDs to be ranked #1 IMO.

He is a sure-fire top pick though, assuming he stays healthy.

 
That was a very well stated list.

People I would have in my top 30

Kevin Smith

Rudi Johnson

People I would have out

J. Jones and Mendenhall

People to low in my opinion

J. Stewart (love him)

L. White (a lot of carries)

T. Jones (great line, top 15)

Top high

Maroney (more carries????why????can he stay healthy??????????)

R. Brown (I like him but next year)

LJ (don't like him AT ALL)

Ryan Grant (would you really take him in the first round?)

Just a couple that I don't agree with but I think you wrote a very solid post.

 
Mendenhall putting up more fantasy points than Rudi Johnson this year? WOW the community is really down on a guy just because of one injury.

 
That was a very well stated list.People I would have in my top 30Kevin SmithRudi JohnsonPeople I would have outJ. Jones and MendenhallPeople to low in my opinionJ. Stewart (love him)L. White (a lot of carries)T. Jones (great line, top 15)Top highMaroney (more carries????why????can he stay healthy??????????)R. Brown (I like him but next year)LJ (don't like him AT ALL)Ryan Grant (would you really take him in the first round?)Just a couple that I don't agree with but I think you wrote a very solid post.
Thank you. I considered Kevin Smith but think the Lions offense is going to take a step back this year and didn't really want to put too many rookies on the list -- just my top 3. Rashard Mendenhall just makes me giddy for some reason.. I don't think he's going to win the starting job in 2008 or anything but it wouldn't surprise me if Willie Parker gets injured and Mendenhall goes crazy. As for Julius Jones, I guess I'm buying into the 'change of scenery' theory in which he'll succeed.All good points with Stewart, White and Jones. I didn't want to put a rookie too high just out of values and although I like LenDale White, I also like Chris Johnson and think he'll steal some thunder. TJ should improve and I admit he may be a little too low.. but there's no going back now! I was going to drop Grant back had his holdout gone on a bit longer and even though Brandon Jackson has been impressing, unless 2008 was a fluke then Grant's going to get his points. Ronnie Brown I'm hopeful for. I don't really like LJ either but couldn't drop him any farther due to talent. Maroney I think will have a semi-breakout year, but your right, in order to do that he'll need to stay healthy.
 
Mendenhall putting up more fantasy points than Rudi Johnson this year? WOW the community is really down on a guy just because of one injury.
Rudi Johnson and I had a rocky 2007. He's getting up there in age and there's some perfectly qualified replacements right behind him. Unless he's extraordinary out of the gate as the starter, he's going to get spelled. There's no way the Bengals are letting Kenny Watson sit on the bench most of the game unless Rudi is slicing defenses to pieces. And I just don't think that'll happen.
 
That was a very well stated list.People I would have in my top 30Kevin SmithRudi JohnsonPeople I would have outJ. Jones and MendenhallPeople to low in my opinionJ. Stewart (love him)L. White (a lot of carries)T. Jones (great line, top 15)Top highMaroney (more carries????why????can he stay healthy??????????)R. Brown (I like him but next year)LJ (don't like him AT ALL)Ryan Grant (would you really take him in the first round?)Just a couple that I don't agree with but I think you wrote a very solid post.
Thank you. I considered Kevin Smith but think the Lions offense is going to take a step back this year and didn't really want to put too many rookies on the list -- just my top 3. Rashard Mendenhall just makes me giddy for some reason.. I don't think he's going to win the starting job in 2008 or anything but it wouldn't surprise me if Willie Parker gets injured and Mendenhall goes crazy. As for Julius Jones, I guess I'm buying into the 'change of scenery' theory in which he'll succeed.All good points with Stewart, White and Jones. I didn't want to put a rookie too high just out of values and although I like LenDale White, I also like Chris Johnson and think he'll steal some thunder. TJ should improve and I admit he may be a little too low.. but there's no going back now! I was going to drop Grant back had his holdout gone on a bit longer and even though Brandon Jackson has been impressing, unless 2008 was a fluke then Grant's going to get his points. Ronnie Brown I'm hopeful for. I don't really like LJ either but couldn't drop him any farther due to talent. Maroney I think will have a semi-breakout year, but your right, in order to do that he'll need to stay healthy.
again good job
 
MJD ahead of LJ is ludicrous, IMO..what has MJD ever done to deserve such a high ranking, while Fred Taylor is ranked in the high 20's?! I don't get it..LJ is one of 3-4 RBs in the entire league guaranteed to get 320+ carries in 2008..at a lousy 4.0 per carry, he should easily rush for 1280 yards ( 320 * 4 per carry), and since he' IS the Chiefs offense, he should be able to score 10+ tds, at a MINIMUM 10 TDs..

now, if his ypc avg goes up to 4.5, we're talking about a 1440 yard RB based on 320 carries..he's going to get closer to 350-375 carries..so what will his number look like then?!

I think people are sleeping on this guy and from what I'm reading he is dropping WAY to far in fantasy drafts..

Don't get all the love for guys like Westbrook or Sjax, both are big time injury risks..great players , but the injury risk is quite high on each and must be taken into account...

Maroney,IMO, is going to be a stud RB this season..NE's easy schedule benefits the running game more than the passing game, it implies you're playing games against sub-par defenses, so why pass as much as last season,when you can run the ball at will?!

Maroney led ALL post season RB's in terms of rushing yards, and finished with four games of 100+ rush yards games , 2 in the final 3 weeks of the reg season, and another 2 in the playoffs, against SD and Jax defenses, I might add..

he's no chump..this kid is going to be a stud this season!!!

 
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Mendenhall putting up more fantasy points than Rudi Johnson this year? WOW the community is really down on a guy just because of one injury.
Rudi Johnson and I had a rocky 2007. He's getting up there in age and there's some perfectly qualified replacements right behind him. Unless he's extraordinary out of the gate as the starter, he's going to get spelled. There's no way the Bengals are letting Kenny Watson sit on the bench most of the game unless Rudi is slicing defenses to pieces. And I just don't think that'll happen.
Last year was the exception, not the rule,,, and Watson is a year and a half older than Rudi. Rudi will be top 15.
 
MJD ahead of LJ is ludicrous, IMO..what has MJD ever done to deserve such a high ranking, while Fred Taylor is ranked in the high 20's?! I don't get it..LJ is one of 3-4 RBs in the entire league guaranteed to get 320+ carries in 2008..at a lousy 4.0 per carry, he should easily rush for 1280 yards ( 320 * 4 per carry), and since he' IS the Chiefs offense, he should be able to score 10+ tds, at a MINIMUM 10 TDs..now, if his ypc avg goes up to 4.5, we're talking about a 1440 yard RB based on 320 carries..he's going to get closer to 350-375 carries..so what will his number look like then?!I think people are sleeping on this guy and from what I'm reading he is dropping WAY to far in fantasy drafts..Don't get all the love for guys like Westbrook or Sjax, both are big time injury risks..great players , but the injury risk is quite high on each and must be taken into account...Maroney,IMO, is going to be a stud RB this season..NE's easy schedule benefits the running game more than the passing game, it implies you're playing games against sub-par defenses, so why pass as much as last season,when you can run the ball at will?!Maroney led ALL post season RB's in terms of rushing yards, and finished with four games of 100+ rush yards games , 2 in the final 3 weeks of the reg season, and another 2 in the playoffs, against SD and Jax defenses, I might add..he's no chump..this kid is going to be a stud this season!!!
MJD hasn't done anything except show that the more carries he gets, the more points he'll rack up. I know he's not as proven as LJ is, at least in regards to being a top fantasy back, but like I said -- I think Fred Taylor will regress some and MJD will continue to move forward.As for LJ, 4.0 yards per carry behind that offensive line and with defenses focusing primarily on him sounds a bit much. I hear you on Westbrook and Jackson's injury risk but Westbrook has started 15 games in each of the last two seasons and the one game he missed each year wasn't really due to injury. And I agree with you about Maroney. He has the injury bug too though, but if he can stay away from that and prove what he can do early then I imagine the Patriots offense will be running a tad more this year with him fresh and healthy.
 
Mendenhall putting up more fantasy points than Rudi Johnson this year? WOW the community is really down on a guy just because of one injury.
Rudi Johnson and I had a rocky 2007. He's getting up there in age and there's some perfectly qualified replacements right behind him. Unless he's extraordinary out of the gate as the starter, he's going to get spelled. There's no way the Bengals are letting Kenny Watson sit on the bench most of the game unless Rudi is slicing defenses to pieces. And I just don't think that'll happen.
Last year was the exception, not the rule,,, and Watson is a year and a half older than Rudi. Rudi will be top 15.
That can definitely happen, I just don't think it will. At least I hope not because I could have kept him.
 
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I saw on one of the ESPN shows that Steven Jackson was preparing for a long hold out. If true how far do you drop Steven Jackson in your rankings?

 
Did I miss the scoring system used for this list?
Just the default. I'd like to say I took PPR into account to make the list a tad less controversial, but I didn't. 6 points for TD's1 point for every 10 yardsBonus points for reaching 100 yardsSame thing for receiving.
 
I saw on one of the ESPN shows that Steven Jackson was preparing for a long hold out. If true how far do you drop Steven Jackson in your rankings?
Well, unless the Rams are completely insane then he's going to get signed before the season starts. Although he may miss some pre-season games and practices in the like, I'm sure he's in football shape. If it goes on for most of the pre-season I say you could drop him back to #5 behind Addai but I don't think that's necessary.
 
Mendenhall putting up more fantasy points than Rudi Johnson this year? WOW the community is really down on a guy just because of one injury.
Rudi Johnson and I had a rocky 2007. He's getting up there in age and there's some perfectly qualified replacements right behind him. Unless he's extraordinary out of the gate as the starter, he's going to get spelled. There's no way the Bengals are letting Kenny Watson sit on the bench most of the game unless Rudi is slicing defenses to pieces. And I just don't think that'll happen.
Last year was the exception, not the rule,,, and Watson is a year and a half older than Rudi. Rudi will be top 15.
Wow, that's interesting, I didn't realize that Watson is a year and a half older than Rudi--LOL, and people are down on Rudi for being "old", wth??? I agree that Rudi will be top 15 and an absolute steal where he is going in mocks right now (6th-7th round in 10 team/15 round mock drafts). It's a joke really.
 
bucsbaby said:
Kirby said:
Mendenhall putting up more fantasy points than Rudi Johnson this year? WOW the community is really down on a guy just because of one injury.
Rudi Johnson and I had a rocky 2007. He's getting up there in age and there's some perfectly qualified replacements right behind him. Unless he's extraordinary out of the gate as the starter, he's going to get spelled. There's no way the Bengals are letting Kenny Watson sit on the bench most of the game unless Rudi is slicing defenses to pieces. And I just don't think that'll happen.
Last year was the exception, not the rule,,, and Watson is a year and a half older than Rudi. Rudi will be top 15.
Wow, that's interesting, I didn't realize that Watson is a year and a half older than Rudi--LOL, and people are down on Rudi for being "old", wth??? I agree that Rudi will be top 15 and an absolute steal where he is going in mocks right now (6th-7th round in 10 team/15 round mock drafts). It's a joke really.
To whom is high on Rudi Johnson: I added him and some others to the honorable mentions for you -- so at least he's sort of on the list.
 
JGalligan said:
H.K. said:
Did I miss the scoring system used for this list?
Just the default. I'd like to say I took PPR into account to make the list a tad less controversial, but I didn't. 6 points for TD's1 point for every 10 yardsBonus points for reaching 100 yardsSame thing for receiving.
It's hard to evaluate rankings without knowing the format, hopefully this information will help eliminate confusion. Thanks for the reply and for the effort.PS - Jacobs is way too high, Bradshaw is in zero danger of missing any time due to his legal situation and the NYG RB Coach has stated that the team will freely rotate Jacobs/Ward/Bradshaw each week and play the hot hand.
 
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JGalligan said:
H.K. said:
Did I miss the scoring system used for this list?
Just the default. I'd like to say I took PPR into account to make the list a tad less controversial, but I didn't. 6 points for TD's1 point for every 10 yardsBonus points for reaching 100 yardsSame thing for receiving.
It's hard to evaluate rankings without knowing the format, hopefully this information will help eliminate confusion. Thanks for the reply and for the effort.PS - Jacobs is way too high, Bradshaw is in zero danger of missing any time due to his legal situation and the NYG RB Coach has stated that the team will freely rotate Jacobs/Ward/Bradshaw each week and play the hot hand.
No problem man, thanks for the feedback. I figured that Jacobs would be spelled with both Ward and Bradshaw but the words 'freely rotate' don't sound too good. He'll still be the GB1 though, so hopefully he can still put up decent numbers.
 
Westbrook is 28 with a history of injuries and ranks #1 and is touted as having his best/breakout year. Rudi is around the same age and is coming off one injury and he doesn't make the top 30. I'm not saying Rudi > Westbrook, far from it, but some of the logic on these forums makes me roll my eyes a bit :)

I think cbssportsline's estimation of him is actually decent when I usually roll my eyes at a lot of their comments:

After three straight seasons of at least 1,300 rush yards and exactly 12 touchdowns, Rudi Johnson broke down in 2007 and only contributed 497 rush yards and three touchdowns thanks to a pesky hamstring injury. Johnson has since recovered and is excited about his prospects for 2008. Many Fantasy owners tend to think of Johnson as an old, broken-down running back, but he'll be 28 when the season starts and 29 in October. Moreover, Johnson got a late start on his career and has only 1,441 career carries. He's got plenty of gas left in the tank and plays alongside a fantastic passing threat in Carson Palmer. As a Fantasy owner, your only worry should be about Johnson's workload in what is expected to be a more ground-oriented attack in '08 for Cincy. He is expected to share carries with the likes of Kenny Watson, Chris Perry and Kenny Irons [waived] but should still be the Bengals' bell-cow throughout the game and at the goal line. With that in mind, treat Johnson as a No. 2 Fantasy RB worth a pick between late Round 2 and late Round 3 in all drafts this summer.
I am seeing him go in the 6th/7th round...steal imo
 
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Good work. My only gripe is that this list is too obvious and conservative. What are the odds that the end of season rankings so closely resemble the consensus preseason rankings? I think when you're making rankings you have to try to predict the unexpected. For example, if you really think Jonathan Stewart will win the starting job then do you really think he'll only finish as the 30th RB? At least one rookie RB rushes for 1,000+ yards almost every year. It's highly likely that someone like Stewart or McFadden will finish in the top 10-15.

I think Michael Turner, Selvin Young, Thomas Jones, and Julius Jones have top 20 potential. I'm admittedly not too excited about that bunch though. I think Fred Taylor, Willie Parker, Earnest Graham, Ronnie Brown, Willis McGahee, and Ryan Grant are risky picks for a variety of reasons. I wouldn't touch those guys at their ADP in a redraft league.

 
Westbrook is 28 with a history of injuries and ranks #1 and is touted as having his best/breakout year. Rudi is around the same age and is coming off one injury and he doesn't make the top 30. I'm not saying Rudi > Westbrook, far from it, but some of the logic on these forums makes me roll my eyes a bit :rolleyes:
I don't have a problem with that ranking. Westbrook is a dynamic talent in the mold of Faulk/Holmes/Tiki. I think there's little reason to rank him outside your top 3 in a redraft league. He looked dominant last year and he's not old enough to be automatically downgraded. Rudi has always been a more blue collar talent. He's never been a superstar and he never will be. Add injuries and a healthy Chris Perry to the mix, and I think there's some definite risk there.
 
Westbrook is 28 with a history of injuries and ranks #1 and is touted as having his best/breakout year. Rudi is around the same age and is coming off one injury and he doesn't make the top 30. I'm not saying Rudi > Westbrook, far from it, but some of the logic on these forums makes me roll my eyes a bit :lmao:

I think cbssportsline's estimation of him is actually decent when I usually roll my eyes at a lot of their comments:

After three straight seasons of at least 1,300 rush yards and exactly 12 touchdowns, Rudi Johnson broke down in 2007 and only contributed 497 rush yards and three touchdowns thanks to a pesky hamstring injury. Johnson has since recovered and is excited about his prospects for 2008. Many Fantasy owners tend to think of Johnson as an old, broken-down running back, but he'll be 28 when the season starts and 29 in October. Moreover, Johnson got a late start on his career and has only 1,441 career carries. He's got plenty of gas left in the tank and plays alongside a fantastic passing threat in Carson Palmer. As a Fantasy owner, your only worry should be about Johnson's workload in what is expected to be a more ground-oriented attack in '08 for Cincy. He is expected to share carries with the likes of Kenny Watson, Chris Perry and Kenny Irons [waived] but should still be the Bengals' bell-cow throughout the game and at the goal line. With that in mind, treat Johnson as a No. 2 Fantasy RB worth a pick between late Round 2 and late Round 3 in all drafts this summer.
I am seeing him go in the 6th/7th round...steal imo
Rudi's done IMO.Aug. 3, 2008 - 4:44 p.m. ET

Rudi Johnson is now missing time at Bengals camp with a "mild" hamstring pull.

Perhaps it is mild, but Rudi and bad hamstrings are not a good combination. A bum hammy sidelined Johnson for five games and limited him in several more last year. It's unclear if this is the same hamstring, but it is a concern.

1. Already has a "mild" injury in camp.

2. 2.9 YPC in 07.

3. Kenny Watson produced last year, and Chris Perry is now healthy.

4. Career high in receptions is 23.

5. Plays for a terrible club that will be in more shootouts than grind it out affairs.

Buyer beware. :2cents:

 
Good work. My only gripe is that this list is too obvious and conservative. What are the odds that the end of season rankings so closely resemble the consensus preseason rankings? I think when you're making rankings you have to try to predict the unexpected. For example, if you really think Jonathan Stewart will win the starting job then do you really think he'll only finish as the 30th RB? At least one rookie RB rushes for 1,000+ yards almost every year. It's highly likely that someone like Stewart or McFadden will finish in the top 10-15. I think Michael Turner, Selvin Young, Thomas Jones, and Julius Jones have top 20 potential. I'm admittedly not too excited about that bunch though. I think Fred Taylor, Willie Parker, Earnest Graham, Ronnie Brown, Willis McGahee, and Ryan Grant are risky picks for a variety of reasons. I wouldn't touch those guys at their ADP in a redraft league.
Yeah, I actually thought about that while writing it. On one hand, I wanted a list of the top 30 RB's heading into camp with some flip flops and surprised (Westbrook) thrown in according to my own opinion. On the other hand, I wanted to make it a list that would be more like one that you would look after the 2008 season is over and it was ranked according to performance. In the end, it turned out as a mix of the two. I took upside into account as well as the past. Hopefully it was a sensible mixture of the two. I didn't really want to project any rookies too high because I don't think we'll have another AP for a very long time. So I'll admit I was very conservative with the rookies.
 
Westbrook is 28 with a history of injuries and ranks #1 and is touted as having his best/breakout year. Rudi is around the same age and is coming off one injury and he doesn't make the top 30. I'm not saying Rudi > Westbrook, far from it, but some of the logic on these forums makes me roll my eyes a bit :thumbup:

I think cbssportsline's estimation of him is actually decent when I usually roll my eyes at a lot of their comments:

After three straight seasons of at least 1,300 rush yards and exactly 12 touchdowns, Rudi Johnson broke down in 2007 and only contributed 497 rush yards and three touchdowns thanks to a pesky hamstring injury. Johnson has since recovered and is excited about his prospects for 2008. Many Fantasy owners tend to think of Johnson as an old, broken-down running back, but he'll be 28 when the season starts and 29 in October. Moreover, Johnson got a late start on his career and has only 1,441 career carries. He's got plenty of gas left in the tank and plays alongside a fantastic passing threat in Carson Palmer. As a Fantasy owner, your only worry should be about Johnson's workload in what is expected to be a more ground-oriented attack in '08 for Cincy. He is expected to share carries with the likes of Kenny Watson, Chris Perry and Kenny Irons [waived] but should still be the Bengals' bell-cow throughout the game and at the goal line. With that in mind, treat Johnson as a No. 2 Fantasy RB worth a pick between late Round 2 and late Round 3 in all drafts this summer.
I am seeing him go in the 6th/7th round...steal imo
Rudi's done IMO.Aug. 3, 2008 - 4:44 p.m. ET

Rudi Johnson is now missing time at Bengals camp with a "mild" hamstring pull.

Perhaps it is mild, but Rudi and bad hamstrings are not a good combination. A bum hammy sidelined Johnson for five games and limited him in several more last year. It's unclear if this is the same hamstring, but it is a concern.

1. Already has a "mild" injury in camp.

2. 2.9 YPC in 07.

3. Kenny Watson produced last year, and Chris Perry is now healthy.

4. Career high in receptions is 23.

5. Plays for a terrible club that will be in more shootouts than grind it out affairs.

Buyer beware. :popcorn:
Amen to that!
 
Good work. My only gripe is that this list is too obvious and conservative. What are the odds that the end of season rankings so closely resemble the consensus preseason rankings? I think when you're making rankings you have to try to predict the unexpected. For example, if you really think Jonathan Stewart will win the starting job then do you really think he'll only finish as the 30th RB? At least one rookie RB rushes for 1,000+ yards almost every year. It's highly likely that someone like Stewart or McFadden will finish in the top 10-15. I think Michael Turner, Selvin Young, Thomas Jones, and Julius Jones have top 20 potential. I'm admittedly not too excited about that bunch though. I think Fred Taylor, Willie Parker, Earnest Graham, Ronnie Brown, Willis McGahee, and Ryan Grant are risky picks for a variety of reasons. I wouldn't touch those guys at their ADP in a redraft league.
Yeah, I actually thought about that while writing it. On one hand, I wanted a list of the top 30 RB's heading into camp with some flip flops and surprised (Westbrook) thrown in according to my own opinion. On the other hand, I wanted to make it a list that would be more like one that you would look after the 2008 season is over and it was ranked according to performance. In the end, it turned out as a mix of the two. I took upside into account as well as the past. Hopefully it was a sensible mixture of the two. I didn't really want to project any rookies too high because I don't think we'll have another AP for a very long time. So I'll admit I was very conservative with the rookies.
I understand the reluctance to take chances, but I think rankings have to account for the possibility of surprise breakout players since they're inevitable. Surprise breakout RBs usually follow one of a few predictable patterns:1. Rookie Breakout - i.e. Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Clinton Portis, Anthony Thomas, Kevin Jones, LaDainian Tomlinson, Joseph Addai2. First-Time Starter or New Veteran Starter - i.e. Frank Gore, Priest Holmes, Brian Westbrook, LenDale White3. Injury Opportunist - i.e. Rudi Johnson, Ladell Betts, Earnest GrahamWe can't predict which starters will get injured, so we can't do much about group #3 other than staying alert and making smart waiver wire pickups when a starter gets hurt. However, we can definitely make a list of guys who fit the first two patterns. For group #1 all we have to do is make a list of rookies who have an immediate shot at playing time. This year's obvious contenders are Jonathan Stewart, Rashard Mendenhall, Darren McFadden, Kevin Smith, Matt Forte, Felix Jones, Ryan Torain, Steve Slaton, and Chris Johnson. It's probable that 1-2 of these guys will crack 1,000 yards rushing next season. Stewart, McFadden, Smith, and Forte look like the best bets. For group #2, all we have to do is make a list of new starters. This year that group includes Michael Turner, Selvin Young, Julius Jones, and possibly someone on the Texans. There are also some guys like DeAngelo Williams, Brandon Jackson, and Ricky Williams who could be in line for some nice PT. We can't rank all of these guys inside the top 30, but it's a good idea to consider the prospects of this group. If I had to bet I'd say Turner and Young are the best bets here because they've both flashed a lot of talent in the past and they should be opening day starters. Personally, I'll definitely consider guys like Stewart, Young, and Turner once the top 14-15 guys are gone in my drafts. They become reasonable gambles in that range.
 
Good work. My only gripe is that this list is too obvious and conservative. What are the odds that the end of season rankings so closely resemble the consensus preseason rankings? I think when you're making rankings you have to try to predict the unexpected. For example, if you really think Jonathan Stewart will win the starting job then do you really think he'll only finish as the 30th RB? At least one rookie RB rushes for 1,000+ yards almost every year. It's highly likely that someone like Stewart or McFadden will finish in the top 10-15. I think Michael Turner, Selvin Young, Thomas Jones, and Julius Jones have top 20 potential. I'm admittedly not too excited about that bunch though. I think Fred Taylor, Willie Parker, Earnest Graham, Ronnie Brown, Willis McGahee, and Ryan Grant are risky picks for a variety of reasons. I wouldn't touch those guys at their ADP in a redraft league.
Yeah, I actually thought about that while writing it. On one hand, I wanted a list of the top 30 RB's heading into camp with some flip flops and surprised (Westbrook) thrown in according to my own opinion. On the other hand, I wanted to make it a list that would be more like one that you would look after the 2008 season is over and it was ranked according to performance. In the end, it turned out as a mix of the two. I took upside into account as well as the past. Hopefully it was a sensible mixture of the two. I didn't really want to project any rookies too high because I don't think we'll have another AP for a very long time. So I'll admit I was very conservative with the rookies.
I understand the reluctance to take chances, but I think rankings have to account for the possibility of surprise breakout players since they're inevitable. Surprise breakout RBs usually follow one of a few predictable patterns:1. Rookie Breakout - i.e. Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Clinton Portis, Anthony Thomas, Kevin Jones, LaDainian Tomlinson, Joseph Addai2. First-Time Starter or New Veteran Starter - i.e. Frank Gore, Priest Holmes, Brian Westbrook, LenDale White3. Injury Opportunist - i.e. Rudi Johnson, Ladell Betts, Earnest GrahamWe can't predict which starters will get injured, so we can't do much about group #3 other than staying alert and making smart waiver wire pickups when a starter gets hurt. However, we can definitely make a list of guys who fit the first two patterns. For group #1 all we have to do is make a list of rookies who have an immediate shot at playing time. This year's obvious contenders are Jonathan Stewart, Rashard Mendenhall, Darren McFadden, Kevin Smith, Matt Forte, Felix Jones, Ryan Torain, Steve Slaton, and Chris Johnson. It's probable that 1-2 of these guys will crack 1,000 yards rushing next season. Stewart, McFadden, Smith, and Forte look like the best bets. For group #2, all we have to do is make a list of new starters. This year that group includes Michael Turner, Selvin Young, Julius Jones, and possibly someone on the Texans. There are also some guys like DeAngelo Williams, Brandon Jackson, and Ricky Williams who could be in line for some nice PT. We can't rank all of these guys inside the top 30, but it's a good idea to consider the prospects of this group. If I had to bet I'd say Turner and Young are the best bets here because they've both flashed a lot of talent in the past and they should be opening day starters. Personally, I'll definitely consider guys like Stewart, Young, and Turner once the top 14-15 guys are gone in my drafts. They become reasonable gambles in that range.
You correctly list Young for group #2; Andre Hall has a good chance of fitting in with Group #3, as does Ahmad Bradshaw.
 
Please explain Matt Forte at 23 and Jonathan Stewart at 30. I can't argue with most of what you wrote but this has me confused. It appears that you assume that both will claim the starting RB job, even so both will probably yield carries to other RBs on the roster. Stewart plays on a team that some think will contend for their division title, Forte on a team that most agree will win 2-4 games this year.

Just curious - as I would probably rank them closer to the reverse

 
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Please explain Matt Forte at 23 and Jonathan Stewart at 30. I can't argue with most of what you wrote but this has me confused. It appears that you assume that both will claim the starting RB job, even so both will probably yield carries to other RBs on the roster. Stewart plays on a team that some think will contend for their division title, Forte on a team that most agree will win 2-4 games this year. Just curious - as I would probably rank them closer to the reverse
Even though I don't want him to, Stewart will eventually be the Panthers starter before the seasons over. Matt Forte? He's already been named the starter. Stewart will be playing behind a competent QB if Jake Delhomme can stay healthy which means the Panthers are going to pass. Unless Kyle Orton or Rex Grossman have begun taking HGH or something, I don't see the Bears passing too much. Forte will get more carries and see less of a split in carries than Stewart will even if he wins the starting job. Even though the Bears offense is horrible, Matt Forte is still pretty good and unless he averages 1.5 ypc this year, he'll likely score more fantasy points than Stewart. At least that's how I think it will happen.
 
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MJD ahead of LJ is ludicrous, IMO..what has MJD ever done to deserve such a high ranking, while Fred Taylor is ranked in the high 20's?! I don't get it..LJ is one of 3-4 RBs in the entire league guaranteed to get 320+ carries in 2008..at a lousy 4.0 per carry, he should easily rush for 1280 yards ( 320 * 4 per carry), and since he' IS the Chiefs offense, he should be able to score 10+ tds, at a MINIMUM 10 TDs..now, if his ypc avg goes up to 4.5, we're talking about a 1440 yard RB based on 320 carries..he's going to get closer to 350-375 carries..so what will his number look like then?!I think people are sleeping on this guy and from what I'm reading he is dropping WAY to far in fantasy drafts..Don't get all the love for guys like Westbrook or Sjax, both are big time injury risks..great players , but the injury risk is quite high on each and must be taken into account...Maroney,IMO, is going to be a stud RB this season..NE's easy schedule benefits the running game more than the passing game, it implies you're playing games against sub-par defenses, so why pass as much as last season,when you can run the ball at will?!Maroney led ALL post season RB's in terms of rushing yards, and finished with four games of 100+ rush yards games , 2 in the final 3 weeks of the reg season, and another 2 in the playoffs, against SD and Jax defenses, I might add..he's no chump..this kid is going to be a stud this season!!!
How is Larry Johnson "guaranteed" to get 320+ carries? And, where are you getting this 4.0 ypc? He ran for 3.5 ypc last season (on 158 carries, which makes you wonder how the 320+ carries is guaranteed). Did his OL improve?
 
Tanner9919 said:
MJD ahead of LJ is ludicrous, IMO..what has MJD ever done to deserve such a high ranking, while Fred Taylor is ranked in the high 20's?! I don't get it..LJ is one of 3-4 RBs in the entire league guaranteed to get 320+ carries in 2008..at a lousy 4.0 per carry, he should easily rush for 1280 yards ( 320 * 4 per carry), and since he' IS the Chiefs offense, he should be able to score 10+ tds, at a MINIMUM 10 TDs..now, if his ypc avg goes up to 4.5, we're talking about a 1440 yard RB based on 320 carries..he's going to get closer to 350-375 carries..so what will his number look like then?!I think people are sleeping on this guy and from what I'm reading he is dropping WAY to far in fantasy drafts..Don't get all the love for guys like Westbrook or Sjax, both are big time injury risks..great players , but the injury risk is quite high on each and must be taken into account...Maroney,IMO, is going to be a stud RB this season..NE's easy schedule benefits the running game more than the passing game, it implies you're playing games against sub-par defenses, so why pass as much as last season,when you can run the ball at will?!Maroney led ALL post season RB's in terms of rushing yards, and finished with four games of 100+ rush yards games , 2 in the final 3 weeks of the reg season, and another 2 in the playoffs, against SD and Jax defenses, I might add..he's no chump..this kid is going to be a stud this season!!!
How is Larry Johnson "guaranteed" to get 320+ carries? And, where are you getting this 4.0 ypc? He ran for 3.5 ypc last season (on 158 carries, which makes you wonder how the 320+ carries is guaranteed). Did his OL improve?
First answer: Johnson had 336, 416, and then 158 in 8 games last season. Granted, it's hardly "guaranteed" but we've all been guilty of some hyperbole in the shark pool from time to time.Second answer: Johnson's career ypc is 4.5 and his lowest yearly ypc before last year is 4.3Third answer: They did draft Albert in the 1st rd. That's something, isn't it?Would it be fair to assume something between 2005/06 and 2007 for Johnson this year?And about the curse of 370, is that just for the following year or for more?
 
Please explain Matt Forte at 23 and Jonathan Stewart at 30. I can't argue with most of what you wrote but this has me confused. It appears that you assume that both will claim the starting RB job, even so both will probably yield carries to other RBs on the roster. Stewart plays on a team that some think will contend for their division title, Forte on a team that most agree will win 2-4 games this year. Just curious - as I would probably rank them closer to the reverse
Actually the one nfl team props line I looked up has the Bears at 8 wins and the Panthers 7.
 
Sources say Jonathan Stewart's toe is bothering him...enjoy
Can you provide us a link? Please
Jonathan Stewart continues to practice on a limited basis, but he admits that he still has some discomfort in his surgically repaired right big toe, according to the Charlotte Observer. Our View: Stewart was supposed to be ready to practice fully by this point. He is unlikely to play in the preseason opener, though coach John Fox said it would be a game-time decision. From Fanball
 
Tanner9919 said:
MJD ahead of LJ is ludicrous, IMO..what has MJD ever done to deserve such a high ranking, while Fred Taylor is ranked in the high 20's?! I don't get it..LJ is one of 3-4 RBs in the entire league guaranteed to get 320+ carries in 2008..at a lousy 4.0 per carry, he should easily rush for 1280 yards ( 320 * 4 per carry), and since he' IS the Chiefs offense, he should be able to score 10+ tds, at a MINIMUM 10 TDs..now, if his ypc avg goes up to 4.5, we're talking about a 1440 yard RB based on 320 carries..he's going to get closer to 350-375 carries..so what will his number look like then?!I think people are sleeping on this guy and from what I'm reading he is dropping WAY to far in fantasy drafts..Don't get all the love for guys like Westbrook or Sjax, both are big time injury risks..great players , but the injury risk is quite high on each and must be taken into account...Maroney,IMO, is going to be a stud RB this season..NE's easy schedule benefits the running game more than the passing game, it implies you're playing games against sub-par defenses, so why pass as much as last season,when you can run the ball at will?!Maroney led ALL post season RB's in terms of rushing yards, and finished with four games of 100+ rush yards games , 2 in the final 3 weeks of the reg season, and another 2 in the playoffs, against SD and Jax defenses, I might add..he's no chump..this kid is going to be a stud this season!!!
How is Larry Johnson "guaranteed" to get 320+ carries? And, where are you getting this 4.0 ypc? He ran for 3.5 ypc last season (on 158 carries, which makes you wonder how the 320+ carries is guaranteed). Did his OL improve?
First answer: Johnson had 336, 416, and then 158 in 8 games last season. Granted, it's hardly "guaranteed" but we've all been guilty of some hyperbole in the shark pool from time to time.Second answer: Johnson's career ypc is 4.5 and his lowest yearly ypc before last year is 4.3Third answer: They did draft Albert in the 1st rd. That's something, isn't it?Would it be fair to assume something between 2005/06 and 2007 for Johnson this year?And about the curse of 370, is that just for the following year or for more?
Johnson had 120 carries the year before the 336 in 2004 when he missed 6 games. He's been in the league for five seasons, and has played a full 16 game schedule twice (whether it be injury or because he still had his diapers on). It just doesn't appear that there are too many similarities between his monster 2005 and 2006 seasons and this coming season. He put up those ypc with OL's that were significantly better than the one he'll be running behind this season and with a QB that was an average to above average NFL QB.And, when you combine that with a guy who has shown a tendency to miss games, I find it hard to believe that he's "guaranteed" 320+ carries when he's only done that twice in his 5-year career (three as a starter).
 
Did I miss the scoring system used for this list?
Just the default. I'd like to say I took PPR into account to make the list a tad less controversial, but I didn't. 6 points for TD's1 point for every 10 yardsBonus points for reaching 100 yardsSame thing for receiving.
It's hard to evaluate rankings without knowing the format, hopefully this information will help eliminate confusion. Thanks for the reply and for the effort.PS - Jacobs is way too high, Bradshaw is in zero danger of missing any time due to his legal situation and the NYG RB Coach has stated that the team will freely rotate Jacobs/Ward/Bradshaw each week and play the hot hand.
No problem man, thanks for the feedback. I figured that Jacobs would be spelled with both Ward and Bradshaw but the words 'freely rotate' don't sound too good. He'll still be the GB1 though, so hopefully he can still put up decent numbers.
Here was the article:
KFFL Breaking NewsGiants to use running back by committeeNew York Giants running backs coach Jerald Ingram said the team will use a running back by committee as best they can to try and keep players healthy and other teams off balance. Ingram said all the running backs have something to give because they all contribute in their own way. He said the game plan in trying to figure out what they can do depends on who they are playing. Offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride said the player who has the hot hand and is ready to play will earn the carries. Ingram said they are not worried about who starts because the opportunities will be there. They want to keep a good balance and keep players as fresh as possible.
 
Sources say Jonathan Stewart's toe is bothering him...enjoy
Can you provide us a link? Please
Here is an article written today from the Panthers website on Stewart...link
The burst of speed and power that made running back Jonathan Stewart the No. 13 overall pick in this year's draft has been evident so far at training camp. So too have the residual effects of his healing from surgery on his right big toe in March.

"With any kind of surgery, you just kind of have to break yourself in, so that's what I'm going through right now," Stewart said Wednesday afternoon.

"Right now my toe is coming along. It's a slow process -- especially coming off the surgery and everything. You've just got to be patient with that. The offense itself is coming along real well. I expected it to be a big load of information coming in -- especially because I haven't been here during (organized team activities) and everything. Everything's still coming along smoothly."

Stewart couldn't even stand on the field and watch the OTA workouts; NFL rules forbade it because the University of Oregon had not completed its spring term, and Stewart's class was still a year away from graduation.

He did come to Charlotte shortly after the OTAs concluded to study the playbook and work on his rehabilitation. The result was his participation in the opening practice of training camp. But his workload has not been steady, as the team has often held him out from the second of the two-a-day practices throughout training camp.

"He's fine. We're just being precautionary," head coach John Fox said. "He's progressing just fine. He's getting plenty of reps."

"There are certain things -- like the whole explosiveness as a runner that I can have," Stewart said. "Some of that stuff is kind of limited because of my toe, going to certain sides and everything. That's what we're working on."

Stewart knows he has to sit from time to time. Better to rest now and complete the healing than cause further injury and scuttle the season to come. The toe began bothering him last November, although he did manage to take part in Oregon's Sun Bowl win last New Year's Eve.

Until training camp started, that four-hour stint on the field represented the extent of his football work for an eight-month period.

No wonder he fidgets while he waits to be back to his old self.

"I'm just antsy about going out there again and playing to my full potential," Stewart said. "It's been since November since I've been able to do that. Of course I'm feeling kind of antsy, but patience is a virtue that we all desire."

His playing status for Saturday night's game against Indianapolis has yet to be determined, with head coach John Fox saying Wednesday that it will be a "game-night decision."

But above all else, Stewart was resolute on one thought -- that his toe is improving every day, whether he plays against the Colts or not.

"Most definitely," he said.
 
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MJD ahead of LJ is ludicrous, IMO..what has MJD ever done to deserve such a high ranking, while Fred Taylor is ranked in the high 20's?! I don't get it..LJ is one of 3-4 RBs in the entire league guaranteed to get 320+ carries in 2008..at a lousy 4.0 per carry, he should easily rush for 1280 yards ( 320 * 4 per carry), and since he' IS the Chiefs offense, he should be able to score 10+ tds, at a MINIMUM 10 TDs..now, if his ypc avg goes up to 4.5, we're talking about a 1440 yard RB based on 320 carries..he's going to get closer to 350-375 carries..so what will his number look like then?!I think people are sleeping on this guy and from what I'm reading he is dropping WAY to far in fantasy drafts..Don't get all the love for guys like Westbrook or Sjax, both are big time injury risks..great players , but the injury risk is quite high on each and must be taken into account...Maroney,IMO, is going to be a stud RB this season..NE's easy schedule benefits the running game more than the passing game, it implies you're playing games against sub-par defenses, so why pass as much as last season,when you can run the ball at will?!Maroney led ALL post season RB's in terms of rushing yards, and finished with four games of 100+ rush yards games , 2 in the final 3 weeks of the reg season, and another 2 in the playoffs, against SD and Jax defenses, I might add..he's no chump..this kid is going to be a stud this season!!!
How is Larry Johnson "guaranteed" to get 320+ carries? And, where are you getting this 4.0 ypc? He ran for 3.5 ypc last season (on 158 carries, which makes you wonder how the 320+ carries is guaranteed). Did his OL improve?
First answer: Johnson had 336, 416, and then 158 in 8 games last season. Granted, it's hardly "guaranteed" but we've all been guilty of some hyperbole in the shark pool from time to time.Second answer: Johnson's career ypc is 4.5 and his lowest yearly ypc before last year is 4.3Third answer: They did draft Albert in the 1st rd. That's something, isn't it?Would it be fair to assume something between 2005/06 and 2007 for Johnson this year?And about the curse of 370, is that just for the following year or for more?
Johnson had 120 carries the year before the 336 in 2004 when he missed 6 games. He's been in the league for five seasons, and has played a full 16 game schedule twice (whether it be injury or because he still had his diapers on). It just doesn't appear that there are too many similarities between his monster 2005 and 2006 seasons and this coming season. He put up those ypc with OL's that were significantly better than the one he'll be running behind this season and with a QB that was an average to above average NFL QB.And, when you combine that with a guy who has shown a tendency to miss games, I find it hard to believe that he's "guaranteed" 320+ carries when he's only done that twice in his 5-year career (three as a starter).
that's a fair enough argument - unless you're just quibbling semantics on the 320 thing, i wonder, who do you see getting the carries LJ doesn't get in KC? do you more see LJ as injured or the Chiefs' offense as ineffective?
 
I don't like Mendenhall and Parker both so low. I think that the Pitt running game will be top ten and even if the carries are split, one of them will have the Lion's share.

Right now though, I'm not sure who it will be.

 
I don't like Mendenhall and Parker both so low. I think that the Pitt running game will be top ten and even if the carries are split, one of them will have the Lion's share.Right now though, I'm not sure who it will be.
What makes you think the Steelers are going more toward the run? It seems to me after last year that they are going more to the air, particularly in the red zone. And the addition of mammoth Limas Sweed seems to make me think that passing is going to happen more often than not in the red zone...
 
The Pitt oline is not what it once was, especially with the loss of Faneca, and especially for run blocking. Roethlisberger is mobile enough and big enough to handle defenders draped around him and in his face, so I think the Steelers will continue to chuck the ball in 2008, especially in the red zone.

 

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