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Favre Rips Pack (1 Viewer)

It would be nice to see him traded to Atlanta. Let him go out on a high note. Of course Atlanta would have to desire to trade for him.

 
I was never a Favre hater....until now.

I am just sick of hearing about him or from him about stuff like this. He's the team's QB, not the coach or GM. He made it clear he wanted the team to get Moss, and you know what, they tried. New England stepped in and made a better offer.

Favre should have retired two years ago. When things start going bad this year, I can't wait to see who he tries to blame: the coach, the line, the blocking scheme, the lack of a running game, the WR's.....

Sad, I used to think very highly of Favre. Now, I will remember him as being a whining, attention starved, over the hill QB who didn't know when enough was enough.

 
Moss wanted to play for a contender, I doubt he would go there except to punish the Vikings(not that there's anything with that).

 
Favre held the team hostage not letting them know if he is playing or retiring. He got in the middle of a teammates contract situation. Oh yeah, that teammate is a better player than Moss. GB should just rid themselves of Favre and move on. He won't ever help that franchise again.

 
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Favre talked with Moss several times leading up to the draft, but he apparently wasn't as convincing as Brady. Still, Favre thinks the Packers could have gotten Moss.
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So Brady was more convincing than Favre, and that's the Packers' fault?
"The last thing I want to do is start anything," Favre said Saturday. "But I think he would have been a great addition. You throw Randy Moss, you throw Donald Driver and you throw Greg Jennings on the field at the same time, and go three-wide receiver set, I think it's pretty intimidating. And we lost out on that, and it's a shame because I know we could have had him."
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Favre hasn't figured out that what's best for Randy Moss, or for the Packers, isn't necessarily the same as what's best for Brett Favre.
 
Silver & Black said:
I was never a Favre hater....until now.I am just sick of hearing about him or from him about stuff like this. He's the team's QB, not the coach or GM. He made it clear he wanted the team to get Moss, and you know what, they tried. New England stepped in and made a better offer. Favre should have retired two years ago. When things start going bad this year, I can't wait to see who he tries to blame: the coach, the line, the blocking scheme, the lack of a running game, the WR's.....Sad, I used to think very highly of Favre. Now, I will remember him as being a whining, attention starved, over the hill QB who didn't know when enough was enough.
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Very well said. Took you long enough to come around though. :confused:
 
cowboyz said:
someone should've asked him if he would restructure and give his money to moss
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Alot of great QBs and players have restructured for the benifit of the team. Farve has never been willing to do that, and his team has been in cap hell for a few years now. He has been unchallenged for so long, that he thinks that he can say anything. Farve is a winner, but has not done everything that he could to help the team win.
 
cowboyz said:
someone should've asked him if he would restructure and give his money to moss
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Brady did not give up any money! They just moved signing bonus to roster bonus (or the other way around). Players that restructure usually come out ahead.
 
cowboyz said:
someone should've asked him if he would restructure and give his money to moss
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He said he would have. More than Brady would have. http://www.sunherald.com/228/story/52533.html

"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent) Bus (Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."

Moss took the deal that gave him a better chance to win a ring.

 
Silver & Black said:
I was never a Favre hater....until now.

I am just sick of hearing about him or from him about stuff like this. He's the team's QB, not the coach or GM. He made it clear he wanted the team to get Moss, and you know what, they tried. New England stepped in and made a better offer.

Favre should have retired two years ago. When things start going bad this year, I can't wait to see who he tries to blame: the coach, the line, the blocking scheme, the lack of a running game, the WR's.....



Sad, I used to think very highly of Favre. Now, I will remember him as being a whining, attention starved, over the hill QB who didn't know when enough was enough.
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Same. I've thought pretty lowly of Favre for the past season or two. IIRC, I think it was when he was speaking out against Walker holding out. I always thought that wasn't really his place and would only further tension between Walker and the team. It's a shame cause I used to like Favre

 
Domination said:
cowboyz said:
someone should've asked him if he would restructure and give his money to moss
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Alot of great QBs and players have restructured for the benifit of the team. Farve has never been willing to do that, and his team has been in cap hell for a few years now. He has been unchallenged for so long, that he thinks that he can say anything. Farve is a winner, but has not done everything that he could to help the team win.
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"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent) Bus (Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough, either.http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/pac...php?ntid=134018

Favre is guilty of one thing...wanting to win before he retires! So far, Ted T has let Ahman go, missed on Moss and has elected to go with a RBBC of Morency and a rookie 2nd rounder. If I was Brett, I'd be pissed off, too! If you think Brett wouldn't trade his salary to win games and add players, I think you're out of your freakin' mind!

 
Domination said:
cowboyz said:
someone should've asked him if he would restructure and give his money to moss
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Alot of great QBs and players have restructured for the benifit of the team. Farve has never been willing to do that, and his team has been in cap hell for a few years now. He has been unchallenged for so long, that he thinks that he can say anything. Farve is a winner, but has not done everything that he could to help the team win.
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:shrug: Uh if you're going to bash Favre at least get your facts straight.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...vre_packers_ap/

 
Favre wants to win and he is ticked off cause his front office isn't trying to win now. Geez, I hate cheering for guys that want to win. I hate guys that actually let us know how they are feeling instead of giving a political correct answer. Geez I hate a guy that will actually say I'm gonna do everything I can to win and you believe him. WOW, Favre has just made himself into such a jerk lately hasn't he?

Not a GB fan nor do I own Favre or any Packers but I will always want the best for #4.

I truely believe his is the best competitor the NFL has ever seen.

 
:shrug:

I guess I could see where some of the animosity comes from (other than from some people who just hate good players). But Favre has always stated he answers questions truthfully. He could have played it a little more coy and probably passed the question but Im sure people would rip him for not being stubborn and avoiding the topic.

I could have seen the questions going something like this:

Do you think the Packer's head office could have gotten Moss?

"I know what we could have signed him for," Favre told Memphis television station WMC-TV at his annual charity golf tournament Saturday in Tunica, Miss. "We could have gotten him for less money than New England did. He wanted to play in Green Bay for the amount of money we could have paid him. It (was) well worth the risk."

What could Moss do to this team that isnt there now? or Why would you want Moss on the Packers with all the bagage he may carry

"The last thing I want to do is start anything," Favre said Saturday. "But I think he would have been a great addition. You throw Randy Moss, you throw Donald Driver and you throw Greg Jennings on the field at the same time, and go three-wide receiver set, I think it's pretty intimidating. And we lost out on that, and it's a shame because I know we could have had him."

But you know, you guys are right. He seeked out the attention of the media immediately after the draft and "ripped" the Packers.

 
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If Favre wants to go to a Super Bowl contender, he should have asked to be traded. As a Packer fan, I would not think less of him, and I actually think it would help the Packers in the long run.

TT is doing the right thing with this team, he is building through the draft and not making foolish decisions. Keeping Ahman Green at the price Houston gave him would be insane. Question the Harrell pick from a defensive standpoint if you want, there were some other pretty solid defenders on the board, especially in the secondary, but what offensive differnece maker was there for Favre? Greg Olsen, a terrible blocking, receiving tight end? Dwayne Bowe or Robert MEachum who would probably sit as the # 3 wideout on the depth chart behind Driver and Jennings? Reaching for a position is not smart (see Jon Michels, Ahmad Carrol). You take the best player on your board.

 
Sorry to threadjack but it's an offshoot about this all. I feel bad for Favre sometimes and I hope that the team can really be competitive this year. Favre was on the brink of retiring and I dont believe he came back just to compete. He wants to win and Im sure someone told him that the Packers would do as much as they could to win now. It's not like they are on the same plateau as some of the other bottom feeding teams.

What do you think was said to him to convince him that this team would turn it around fairly quickly. I think it's almost there but it's going to be tough, they definitly are not a pretty pick.

 
Balco said:
If Favre wants to go to a Super Bowl contender, he should have asked to be traded. As a Packer fan, I would not think less of him, and I actually think it would help the Packers in the long run.TT is doing the right thing with this team, he is building through the draft and not making foolish decisions. Keeping Ahman Green at the price Houston gave him would be insane. Question the Harrell pick from a defensive standpoint if you want, there were some other pretty solid defenders on the board, especially in the secondary, but what offensive differnece maker was there for Favre? Greg Olsen, a terrible blocking, receiving tight end? Dwayne Bowe or Robert MEachum who would probably sit as the # 3 wideout on the depth chart behind Driver and Jennings? Reaching for a position is not smart (see Jon Michels, Ahmad Carrol). You take the best player on your board.
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I could almost agree (even though I would not want to see Favre in another uniform) but where would he go that could content for a Super Bowl now? Usually teams that are on the brink of being a contender are not in need of a QB. The only teams I could maybe think of are the Jags, Panthers, and Falcons. All three still have some weaknesses that a QB wouldnt necessarily fix.And, I love the way TT drafts. It's smart and conservative and I would rather have a team stacked full of overall good players then just some flashes here and there. The problem I have with this is that the Packers could have gotten (supposedly) Moss with the pick that landed them an OT that probably wont see the field except for a breather here and there. But not getting Moss is not the end of the world but it sure would have made things a little easier. Im sure TT will pick up one of the veteran WRs that are still on the market. Getting someone like Bryant could really stretch the field.
 
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FavreCo said:
cowboyz said:
someone should've asked him if he would restructure and give his money to moss
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He said he would have. More than Brady would have. http://www.sunherald.com/228/story/52533.html

"He was going to wipe his contract clean and sign for $3 million guaranteed, plus a fourth-round draft pick. That would have been a steal. But we were not willing to guarantee part of that $3 million. I even had (agent) Bus (Cook) call up there and tell them I would give up part of my salary to guarantee that part of the money. Apparently that wasn't enough either."

Moss took the deal that gave him a better chance to win a ring.
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well then, i got nothing :lmao: but moss chose a better situation in NE than GB, and TT made a better decision keeping the 4th rounder instead of renting moss for 1 yr. now allen barbre can forever be tied to moss 2007.

 
Is that the extent of the story? If so, I don't see the inflammatory 'ripping' of the Pack by Favre.

He expressed disappointment that his team wasn't able to get a guy he thought could help. I have no problem with that. On the one hand, I'm not a fan of any player playing GM. But, ummmm, I think a Brett Favre has earned the right to say something.

I get as queasy as anyone else when the Favre man-love poems start up by the TV dweebs, but I am fine with this.

 
the actual quotes

"I know what we could have signed him for," Favre told Memphis television station WMC-TV at his annual charity golf tournament Saturday in Tunica, Miss. "We could have gotten him for less money than New England did. He wanted to play in Green Bay for the amount of money we could have paid him. It (was) well worth the risk."

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"The last thing I want to do is start anything," Favre said Saturday. "But I think he would have been a great addition. You throw Randy Moss, you throw Donald Driver and you throw Greg Jennings on the field at the same time, and go three-wide receiver set, I think it's pretty intimidating. And we lost out on that, and it's a shame because I know we could have had him."

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"I had surgery in February; I could have played the following week - against doctors orders, but I could have played," Favre said. "Rehab's going fine, but everything's up to par right now. I think people who know me, know I will be ready.

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"Am I ready at this moment? Probably not quite, but I will get myself ready and I think as they found out in the past, I will do everything I can do to help this team win."

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"Do I feel like going to training camp and minicamp?" Favre said. "Most of the time no. But I still love to play and I think there are a lot of guys who have retired or have been let go that still love to play but don't feel they can, and I still feel I can play at a high level.

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"I love to compete and I love to win and I would hate to give it up and say, 'I could be doing that.' So that's why I'm back."
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:goodposting: @ "rip", and i don't even like Favre that much
 
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joffer said:
the actual quotes

"I know what we could have signed him for," Favre told Memphis television station WMC-TV at his annual charity golf tournament Saturday in Tunica, Miss. "We could have gotten him for less money than New England did. He wanted to play in Green Bay for the amount of money we could have paid him. It (was) well worth the risk."

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"The last thing I want to do is start anything," Favre said Saturday. "But I think he would have been a great addition. You throw Randy Moss, you throw Donald Driver and you throw Greg Jennings on the field at the same time, and go three-wide receiver set, I think it's pretty intimidating. And we lost out on that, and it's a shame because I know we could have had him."

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"I had surgery in February; I could have played the following week - against doctors orders, but I could have played," Favre said. "Rehab's going fine, but everything's up to par right now. I think people who know me, know I will be ready.

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"Am I ready at this moment? Probably not quite, but I will get myself ready and I think as they found out in the past, I will do everything I can do to help this team win."

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"Do I feel like going to training camp and minicamp?" Favre said. "Most of the time no. But I still love to play and I think there are a lot of guys who have retired or have been let go that still love to play but don't feel they can, and I still feel I can play at a high level.

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"I love to compete and I love to win and I would hate to give it up and say, 'I could be doing that.' So that's why I'm back."
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:goodposting: @ "rip", and i don't even like Favre that much
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Why the hell would a rebuilding team like GB want Randy Moss? Is their goal to go 8-8?The Packers should part ways with Favre and start building for the future.

 
Domination said:
cowboyz said:
someone should've asked him if he would restructure and give his money to moss
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Alot of great QBs and players have restructured for the benifit of the team. Farve has never been willing to do that, and his team has been in cap hell for a few years now. He has been unchallenged for so long, that he thinks that he can say anything. Farve is a winner, but has not done everything that he could to help the team win.
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:bs: 2007 under the cap #'s:

Code: 
Projected 2007 NFL Salary Cap Space for Each Team  Rank Team $ Under the Cap 1  San Francisco 49ers  $37.11 M     2  Cleveland Browns  $32.3 M     3  Minnesota Vikings  $28.6855 M     4  Buffalo Bills  $27 M     5  Tampa Bay Buccaneers  $22.3083 M     6  St. Louis Rams  $22.105 M     7  Green Bay Packers  $21.7 M     8  Arizona Cardinals  $21.025 M     9  Jacksonville Jaguars  $20.13 M     10  New Orleans Saints  $20 M
 
Hey everyone, Fla\/\/ed is running late to this thread but he said he'll be here just as soon as he can.

 
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6805790

Favre asked to be traded

Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com

Posted: 14 minutes ago

The man who may have the biggest name in Green Bay sports history has asked to be traded.

Several Packers and league sources have told FOXSports.com that Brett Favre's agent Bus Cook phoned Green Bay's general manager Ted Thompson within two to three days of the draft and asked for a trade. The sources said that Cook railed off how his client was fed up with the organization and wanted out.

The shocking request appeared directly related to the team's inability to trade for WR Randy Moss.

The news was then relayed to head coach Mike McCarthy, who immediately phoned the Super Bowl winning quarterback to squash his anger. However, the quarterback ignored all his calls for a week, perhaps showing the team how upset he was this time.

Finally, in the middle of this past week the two finally connected. Sources close to the situation said Favre asked McCarthy if he was aware that Cook asked for a trade but McCarthy immediately insisted that would not happen. McCarthy told others inside the organization it appeared the team's head coach had cooled Favre's anger and by the end of the conversation admitted he didn't want to go elsewhere. However, at the same time he has told friends on other teams as well how frustrated he is with the organization's inability to land the former Pro Bowl wideout and that he, in fact, wanted out.

Several calls this morning to McCarthy and Thompson by FOXSports.com have not yet been returned.

On Saturday, Favre railed against the team in an interview with his local Biloxi Sun Herald.

"I just want to win; maybe I see things the wrong way," Favre said in the exclusive interview. "I don't want to ruffle any feathers and I want people to respect me. Sometimes I think it's hard for them to let Brett go. They might think that we pay him a lot of money, but he still gives us the best chance to win. I've never been told that, but there are times when I wonder if I'm the odd man out here and they just don't know how to tell me.

"Our offense struggled last season. If it were not for our defense, we would not have won eight games. Right now, it's hard to be optimistic. I'm not getting any younger and I think everyone knows that. I don't have five years to rebuild. No one in Green Bay is saying rebuild but it's hard to look at where we are going and say, 'How can they not be rebuilding?'

"I don't know if I've lost faith, and I think everyone in the organization wants to win. I just don't know if it includes me. If it's going to be five years from now, I'm not going to be here. This is 17 years for me and I want to win."

At this point the Packers are primed to head into serious damage control to prevent any further uproar regarding their most prized name. However, too much damage may already have been done by his bizarre trade request.

Despite Favre's trade request and rant to the Biloxi Sun, the team has no intention of parting ways with him. In fact, some within the organization claim that McCarthy honestly believes they can win with the long-time vet at the helm and has repeatedly told him as such.

Thus, they are hoping that Favre simply needed to vent for a while before jumping back on board.
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AhrnCityPahnder said:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6805790

Favre asked to be traded

Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com

Posted: 14 minutes ago

The man who may have the biggest name in Green Bay sports history has asked to be traded.

Several Packers and league sources have told FOXSports.com that Brett Favre's agent Bus Cook phoned Green Bay's general manager Ted Thompson within two to three days of the draft and asked for a trade. The sources said that Cook railed off how his client was fed up with the organization and wanted out.

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If he said this prior to the draft, Thompson should have granted his wish and took Quinn. :bs:

 
Send him to New England, so he can be with Moss and possibly win a title. I think he would make a good backup for Brady. :thumbup:

 
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Silver & Black said:
I was never a Favre hater....until now.

I am just sick of hearing about him or from him about stuff like this. He's the team's QB, not the coach or GM. He made it clear he wanted the team to get Moss, and you know what, they tried. New England stepped in and made a better offer.

Favre should have retired two years ago. When things start going bad this year, I can't wait to see who he tries to blame: the coach, the line, the blocking scheme, the lack of a running game, the WR's.....

Sad, I used to think very highly of Favre. Now, I will remember him as being a whining, attention starved, over the hill QB who didn't know when enough was enough.
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GB and NE both got the same offer from the Raiders. Oakland asked for a fourth for Moss. GB said "No." NE said "Yes."And Brady's "restructuring" means more money for him in the next few years, not less.

 
redman said:
Hey everyone, Fla\/\/ed is running late to this thread but he said he'll be here just as soon as he can.
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:lmao: :wall: Over/under on tool and hater mentions is set at 9.Over/under on number of different threads that will be started because of Glazer's report (that is the lead story on FoxSports) of Favre demanding a trade is set at 7. Place your bets.
 
Tough As Nails said:
redman said:
Hey everyone, Fla\/\/ed is running late to this thread but he said he'll be here just as soon as he can.
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:lmao: :lmao: Over/under on tool and hater mentions is set at 9.
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I will take the over unfortunitly.
Over/under on number of different threads that will be started because of Glazer's report (that is the lead story on FoxSports) of Favre demanding a trade is set at 7.
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I will take the under based on thread merges. :useless:
 
If Favre ever DID tear the Packers organization a new one, it would be worth the price of admission to see how fans would respond. I still remember when Packers fans I know were all-about Aaron Kampman a couple years back. "Best young defensive lineman in the game! Better than any waste management in the Vikings organization," etc. Then, Kampman signed an offer sheet with the Vikings, and it was all "what an overrated loser, we don't need him, don't let the door hit you in the ### when you leave!" Then within a week, after the Packers matched the offer, it was all bunnies, rose pedals and chocolates for Kampman again. I still am recovering from whip-lash as a result of that 6-7 day whirlwind.... :useless:

If folks got their undies THAT much in a bunch over Aaron Kampman, can you imagine what the situation would look like if Favre ever, say, demanded a trade "to a team that was committed to winning a Super Bowl" before he retires? I think the colliding of matter and anti-matter starting just east of Madison might form a tear in the fabric of time and be the end of the universe as we know it.

But I digress.... :lmao:

 
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TT has lost out on every bid to get a free agent this year. The Patriots took three of them in Moss, A. Thomas, and Stallworth thru personal interviews. TT needs to change his recruiting technique.

 
I find it strange that Favre is willing to go to battle for Randy Moss but was unwilling to go to battle for his former teammate Javon Walker.

 
datonn said:
If Favre ever DID tear the Packers organization a new one, it would be worth the price of admission to see how fans would respond. I still remember when Packers fans I know were all-about Aaron Kampman a couple years back. "Best young defensive lineman in the game! Better than any waste management in the Vikings organization," etc. Then, Kampman signed an offer sheet with the Vikings, and it was all "what an overrated loser, we don't need him, don't let the door hit you in the ### when you leave!" Then within a week, after the Packers matched the offer, it was all bunnies, rose pedals and chocolates for Kampman again. I still am recovering from whip-lash as a result of that 6-7 day whirlwind.... :useless: If folks got their undies THAT much in a bunch over Aaron Kampman, can you imagine what the situation would look like if Favre ever, say, demanded a trade "to a team that was committed to winning a Super Bowl" before he retires? I think the colliding of matter and anti-matter starting just east of Madison might form a tear in the fabric of time and be the end of the universe as we know it.But I digress.... :lmao:
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I don't know any Packer fans like that. Noone I know ever called Kampman a loser. Instead most said match the offer. That makes no sense before the team decided whether to match the offer or not.
 
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