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I was trying to focus on the younger players that have been extended, but Harris did get an extension and is part of the used up cap space from this past off season. On the position of corner - were you as surprised as I was they didn't take one at SOME point in the draft? Are Blackmon/Walker really the answers? I understand letting your draft board fall where it will, but...
I said it that day in a few places...not sure if I did on here. The reason the Harrell pick shocked me a bit was that DT was not a place I had been hearing they might look. Safety, CB were where I thought they would go if they went defense. I was not big on anyone after Landry as far as top 20 picks for safety...so thought they would go corner to help with the depth.I guess they like what Walker gives them as far as depth this year in the nickel and are hopeful that Blackmon can pan out and stay healthy.Maybe with what they had invested in harris and woodson they were not yet ready to draft their replacements just yet. I don't know.
 
Sho nuff, thank you for the excellent posts. I'm a Packer fan and Favre fan as well but the beating that TT is taking over not getting Moss is ridiculous. IMO Ted Thompson has done a lot more to rebuild this team and make it younger than what he is given credit for. Mike Sherman left the Packers in shambles, both from a talent and salary cap perspective. In a short period of time Thompson has positioned this team to be competitive for years to come.

 
Why is Moss playing the role as the great saviour? Last time I checked, he was dogging it in a Raiders uniform . . .

 
Sho nuff, thank you for the excellent posts. I'm a Packer fan and Favre fan as well but the beating that TT is taking over not getting Moss is ridiculous. IMO Ted Thompson has done a lot more to rebuild this team and make it younger than what he is given credit for. Mike Sherman left the Packers in shambles, both from a talent and salary cap perspective. In a short period of time Thompson has positioned this team to be competitive for years to come.
My favorite part is that many of those bashing TT for not getting Moss are the same who were bashing the Packers for even thinking about it. Now all of a sudden to some people, Moss can do no wrong.
 
Sho nuff, thank you for the excellent posts. I'm a Packer fan and Favre fan as well but the beating that TT is taking over not getting Moss is ridiculous. IMO Ted Thompson has done a lot more to rebuild this team and make it younger than what he is given credit for. Mike Sherman left the Packers in shambles, both from a talent and salary cap perspective. In a short period of time Thompson has positioned this team to be competitive for years to come.
My favorite part is that many of those bashing TT for not getting Moss are the same who were bashing the Packers for even thinking about it. Now all of a sudden to some people, Moss can do no wrong.
Packer fans upset that the Packers didn't trade for a player like Randy Moss? Lombardi has to be turning over in his grave. I can hear him now, "What the h*ll is going on out there?"
 
Sho nuff, thank you for the excellent posts. I'm a Packer fan and Favre fan as well but the beating that TT is taking over not getting Moss is ridiculous. IMO Ted Thompson has done a lot more to rebuild this team and make it younger than what he is given credit for. Mike Sherman left the Packers in shambles, both from a talent and salary cap perspective. In a short period of time Thompson has positioned this team to be competitive for years to come.
My favorite part is that many of those bashing TT for not getting Moss are the same who were bashing the Packers for even thinking about it. Now all of a sudden to some people, Moss can do no wrong.
No...I generally support Thompson and like what he has done for the future of the Pack but he really screwed the pooch on the Moss deal. He had the opportunity to land the a player with the talent of Randy Moss for a 4th round pick. Thompson tried to low-ball the Raiders with a 5th and was burned...that's all there is too it. Maybe Moss will be a cancer in NE but for a 4th rounder it's worth the gamble. I certainly don't believe that Moss can't do no wrong but for what the Raiders were asking why not take a shot?
 
Sho nuff, thank you for the excellent posts. I'm a Packer fan and Favre fan as well but the beating that TT is taking over not getting Moss is ridiculous. IMO Ted Thompson has done a lot more to rebuild this team and make it younger than what he is given credit for. Mike Sherman left the Packers in shambles, both from a talent and salary cap perspective. In a short period of time Thompson has positioned this team to be competitive for years to come.
It seems to me that Ted Thompson is just going halfway. I don't think it is fair to Favre, or to the Packers. If you are going to rebuild then rebuild deal the guy get some draft picks.
 
Sho nuff, thank you for the excellent posts. I'm a Packer fan and Favre fan as well but the beating that TT is taking over not getting Moss is ridiculous. IMO Ted Thompson has done a lot more to rebuild this team and make it younger than what he is given credit for. Mike Sherman left the Packers in shambles, both from a talent and salary cap perspective. In a short period of time Thompson has positioned this team to be competitive for years to come.
My favorite part is that many of those bashing TT for not getting Moss are the same who were bashing the Packers for even thinking about it. Now all of a sudden to some people, Moss can do no wrong.
No...I generally support Thompson and like what he has done for the future of the Pack but he really screwed the pooch on the Moss deal. He had the opportunity to land the a player with the talent of Randy Moss for a 4th round pick. Thompson tried to low-ball the Raiders with a 5th and was burned...that's all there is too it. Maybe Moss will be a cancer in NE but for a 4th rounder it's worth the gamble. I certainly don't believe that Moss can't do no wrong but for what the Raiders were asking why not take a shot?
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Sho nuff, thank you for the excellent posts. I'm a Packer fan and Favre fan as well but the beating that TT is taking over not getting Moss is ridiculous. IMO Ted Thompson has done a lot more to rebuild this team and make it younger than what he is given credit for. Mike Sherman left the Packers in shambles, both from a talent and salary cap perspective. In a short period of time Thompson has positioned this team to be competitive for years to come.
It seems to me that Ted Thompson is just going halfway. I don't think it is fair to Favre, or to the Packers. If you are going to rebuild then rebuild deal the guy get some draft picks.
It's quite obvious to anyone who follows the Packers, no matter what he says TT does not want Favre there. If he did, he would get him some help on Offense. TT doesn't want to be the bad guy, the guy who forces Favre out, so he takes him back but builds for the future. His ego is so big he thinks that winning comes easy through the draft, well it doesn't, you have to take your shots when the opportunity presents itself. His ego is preventing the Packers from taking that shot right now, with a great QB. Once Favre leaves the game according to TT's ego, then it's go time. Well it doesn't work like that.He's done a great job with drafting, but he refuses to add the needed FA's to make the team a winner, why? Because of his ego, he wants it all to be HIS guys.
 
Sho nuff, thank you for the excellent posts. I'm a Packer fan and Favre fan as well but the beating that TT is taking over not getting Moss is ridiculous. IMO Ted Thompson has done a lot more to rebuild this team and make it younger than what he is given credit for. Mike Sherman left the Packers in shambles, both from a talent and salary cap perspective. In a short period of time Thompson has positioned this team to be competitive for years to come.
It seems to me that Ted Thompson is just going halfway. I don't think it is fair to Favre, or to the Packers. If you are going to rebuild then rebuild deal the guy get some draft picks.
It's quite obvious to anyone who follows the Packers, no matter what he says TT does not want Favre there. If he did, he would get him some help on Offense. TT doesn't want to be the bad guy, the guy who forces Favre out, so he takes him back but builds for the future. His ego is so big he thinks that winning comes easy through the draft, well it doesn't, you have to take your shots when the opportunity presents itself. His ego is preventing the Packers from taking that shot right now, with a great QB. Once Favre leaves the game according to TT's ego, then it's go time. Well it doesn't work like that.He's done a great job with drafting, but he refuses to add the needed FA's to make the team a winner, why? Because of his ego, he wants it all to be HIS guys.
Thats news to teams like the Indianapolis Colts...you know...the team that just won the Super Bowl with a roster made up mostly with guys they drafted.Why does he refuse to add bit time free agents? Because there simply have not been the quality of big time free agents out there...and the team is not close to being just that one or two players away from being a SB contender.

 
The Favre haters are slacking....he had a 15 minute press conference today at mini-camp and not one of them has called him a media whore today.

 
The Favre haters are slacking....he had a 15 minute press conference today at mini-camp and not one of them has called him a media whore today.
Favre said he DID NOT HAVE 5 MORE YEARS in him!! "I don't have five years left. ... That's been documented. And that's true. I'm not blowing smoke -- it's true."Unfortunately for Viking, Bear, and Lions fans, that must mean:FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR YEARS. ;) :headbang:
 
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It's quite obvious to anyone who follows the Packers, no matter what he says TT does not want Favre there. If he did, he would get him some help on Offense. TT doesn't want to be the bad guy, the guy who forces Favre out, so he takes him back but builds for the future. His ego is so big he thinks that winning comes easy through the draft, well it doesn't, you have to take your shots when the opportunity presents itself. His ego is preventing the Packers from taking that shot right now, with a great QB. Once Favre leaves the game according to TT's ego, then it's go time. Well it doesn't work like that.

He's done a great job with drafting, but he refuses to add the needed FA's to make the team a winner, why? Because of his ego, he wants it all to be HIS guys.
How do you interepret his build through the draft approach as thinking "winning comes easy through the draft"? He simply doesn't believe that you can piece meal a team together via free agency. Of course you can add someone if the fit is right and more importantly if the money is right. But his main focus is always going to be to draft talent to fit the scheme and re-sign key players and build a winner that way. Is the draft "easy" and every player going to work out? Of course not, but I don't believe making a splash in free agency is likely the answer either.Like it or not, the Packers are more than a couple of players away from the Super Bowl. Favre, while not the player he once was, is certainly still a capable QB, but Thompson is going to do what he thinks is best for the TEAM. That goes for this year AND the future.

What really gets me is people thinking that Thompson has some sort of vendetta for Favre and doing what he can to drive him out. Do you really think Thompson has that luxury? He still needs to build a winner and he doesn't exactly have 10 years to do that. He is building from the trenches out and I for one think he is approaching it the right way. I think they have a solid team and even when Favre leaves, the pieces are there to contend in the next few years.

 
It's quite obvious to anyone who follows the Packers, no matter what he says TT does not want Favre there. If he did, he would get him some help on Offense. TT doesn't want to be the bad guy, the guy who forces Favre out, so he takes him back but builds for the future. His ego is so big he thinks that winning comes easy through the draft, well it doesn't, you have to take your shots when the opportunity presents itself. His ego is preventing the Packers from taking that shot right now, with a great QB. Once Favre leaves the game according to TT's ego, then it's go time. Well it doesn't work like that.

He's done a great job with drafting, but he refuses to add the needed FA's to make the team a winner, why? Because of his ego, he wants it all to be HIS guys.
How do you interepret his build through the draft approach as thinking "winning comes easy through the draft"? He simply doesn't believe that you can piece meal a team together via free agency. Of course you can add someone if the fit is right and more importantly if the money is right. But his main focus is always going to be to draft talent to fit the scheme and re-sign key players and build a winner that way. Is the draft "easy" and every player going to work out? Of course not, but I don't believe making a splash in free agency is likely the answer either.Like it or not, the Packers are more than a couple of players away from the Super Bowl. Favre, while not the player he once was, is certainly still a capable QB, but Thompson is going to do what he thinks is best for the TEAM. That goes for this year AND the future.

What really gets me is people thinking that Thompson has some sort of vendetta for Favre and doing what he can to drive him out. Do you really think Thompson has that luxury? He still needs to build a winner and he doesn't exactly have 10 years to do that. He is building from the trenches out and I for one think he is approaching it the right way. I think they have a solid team and even when Favre leaves, the pieces are there to contend in the next few years.
Have to disagree on the couple players away. Maybe from winnng the superbowl but as bad as the rest of the NFC finished last year there is not doubt they have a chance of getting there. Winning it all though would be a big stretch unless another sleeper team from the AFC made it also.
 
So are people actually making the serious argument that Ted Thompson and the Packers are only a few key signings away from making a Super Bowl run over the next season or two...but that Thompson's ego is keeping him/them from going out and getting 'er done?

Is it just me, or does that sounds just a tad :crazy: , along with 3-4 helpings of :homer: ?

Granted, I'm not a fan of the Pack and don't spend an hour or two facing Lambeau and chanting prayers every day, but I find it hard to believe that someone would contend that any franchise would purposefully sabotage their own title chances out of spite.

:rolleyes:

 
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So are people actually making the serious argument that Ted Thompson and the Packers are only a few key signings away from making a Super Bowl run over the next season or two...but that Thompson's ego is keeping him/them from going out and getting 'er done?Is it just me, or does that sounds just a tad :lmao: , along with 3-4 helpings of :hey: ?Granted, I'm not a fan of the Pack and don't spend an hour or two facing Lambeau and chanting prayers every day, but I find it hard to believe that someone would contend that any franchise would purposefully sabotage their own title chances out of spite. :confused:
I think their divison is less than spectacular, and if they made a couple of key signings with their draft picks progressing well they could go far.But then again it is May every team is undefeated. :hey:
 
The Favre haters are slacking....he had a 15 minute press conference today at mini-camp and not one of them has called him a media whore today.
A Milwaukee magazine noticed him. Link
Published May 19, 2007 at 5:39 a.m.

Attention readers, OnMilwaukee.com interrupts coverage of the first-place Milwaukee Brewers to bring you state-mandated coverage of Green Bay Packers mini-camp, and the latest developments regarding Brett Favre.

There was a time when the Green Bay Packers represented everything that was wonderful about professional sports. There was a time when Brett Favre represented all that was good about the Green Bay Packers. Both of those eras have come to a screeching halt.

The latest saga in the Packer quarterback's career is his demand of a trade following the team's failure to obtain wide receiver Randy Moss in a draft day trade. Favre, like a whiny child that didn't get its way, essentially defined his legacy in Green Bay. He, of two-and-a-half Most Valuable Player awards, a championship in Super Bowl XXXI, and numerous team and NFL records, will be remembered now as the selfish has-been who didn't know when to walk away.

Packer fans, diehard almost to a fault, will not dare speak against the 17-year veteran; choosing to ignore his recent futility in favor of his salad days. And surely, they will give him a flier on this latest development. Instead, the blame will be placed on the shoulders of General Manager Ted Thompson, who is choosing to build the next generation of Packer teams, for better or for worse, through the draft. His moves haven't made the most sense, but Favre knew when he decided to come back for another season that his GM preferred to build via the draft as opposed to dumping large sums of money into free agency.

Long story short, it's time for Favre to stick to his trade demand or just walk away. Enough is enough, and his time has come. It's been 10 years since he was named MVP. It's been just as long since the Packers advanced to the Super Bowl..........

.............Favre has been given carte blanche freedom to miss numerous offseason mini-camps and workouts over the past few off-seasons, and almost missed one which wraps up today.

His excuse this time was that his daughter was graduating High School, but he quickly had a change of heart in light of the recent rumors. While that seems like a plausible excuse, the ceremony isn't for almost a week after training camp would conclude. That right there is dedication to a winning team. If there are so many new faces that Favre needs to get accustomed to working with, why isn't this future Hall of Fame inductee there to iron out the bugs?

In the past few seasons, Favre has posted numbers similar to his first few years in Green Bay. Remember that era? The memory is fuzzy, but cries of benching Favre in favor of Mark Burnell or Ty Detmer come to mind................

.............It's easy to point blame for Favre, who seems to avoid quite a bit of it. Obviously he's upset – and rightfully so – that the Packers have not geared up for a Super Bowl run; but if he really wants management to show dedication to winning, he must do the same. In the long run of course, that won't happen. When you're a guy like Brett Favre, you can pretty much do whatever you want and get away with it.
 
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Have to disagree on the couple players away. Maybe from winnng the superbowl but as bad as the rest of the NFC finished last year there is not doubt they have a chance of getting there. Winning it all though would be a big stretch unless another sleeper team from the AFC made it also.
The NFC is bad and certainly worse than the AFC, but there are also some solid teams. Can the Packers compete, absolutely. Can the Packers make the playoffs, maybe. Are they ready to seriously contend right now, probably not. Which is why Thompson is approaching this the right way and not with some knee jerk reactions to try and get Favre out on top.I don't quite understand all of the belly-aching about not surrounding Favre with weapons and he should just retire if they don't do so. Thompson hasn't changed his philosophy one bit. It was Favre's decision to come back and unless Thompson told him in private that "don't worry, we'll make sure we go out and spend some serious money of offensive weapons for you", he knew exactly what he was getting into.
 
No...I generally support Thompson and like what he has done for the future of the Pack but he really screwed the pooch on the Moss deal. He had the opportunity to land the a player with the talent of Randy Moss for a 4th round pick. Thompson tried to low-ball the Raiders with a 5th and was burned...that's all there is too it. Maybe Moss will be a cancer in NE but for a 4th rounder it's worth the gamble. I certainly don't believe that Moss can't do no wrong but for what the Raiders were asking why not take a shot?
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