I agree 100%. Add to that the possibility that Moss is really just there to light a spark under Crabtree (not saying that's the case, just saying it's possible).
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TheFootballJesus
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Couldn't find Tony Moeaki or Collie in the predraft list- can anybody else????
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
At your main page, before you advance to your draft page, you need to click the button "ALL" under TE or WR, instead of top 32 button, which is the default setting.
footballman_696969
Footballguy
Still waiting to make my last round selection which will be a kicker, but I'll go ahead with my team analysis anyways.
POS Player Name Team Pick Bye
QB Tom Brady NEP 2.10 9
QB Joe Flacco BAL 15.03 8
RB LeSean McCoy PHI 1.03 7
RB Donald Brown IND 6.10 4
RB C.J. Spiller BUF 8.10 8
RB LeGarrette Blount TBB 10.10 5
RB Dion Lewis PHI 16.10 7
RB Cedric Benson CIN 18.10 8
WR AJ Green CIN 3.03 8
WR Miles Austin DAL 5.03 5
WR DeSean Jackson PHI 7.03 7
WR Lance Moore NOS 11.03 6
WR Nate Washington TEN 12.10 11
WR Brandon LaFell CAR 13.03 6
WR Jacoby Ford OAK 14.10 5
WR Emmanuel Sanders PIT 17.03 4
TE Vernon Davis SFO 4.10 9
TE Greg Olsen CAR 9.03 6
DT Minnesota Vikings MIN 19.03 11
Very happy with my team overall. I got some quality starters and a nice amount of depth. Also managed to get a good mixture of reliable veterans and young players on the rise. I like this team much better than the one I drafted out of the 12 spot in the first mock
QBs - Brady in the 2nd is great value. I actually think hes a bit of steal there. He's one of the safest players in all of fantasy football and has a legitimate chance to be the #1 overall player this year. Its scary to think what he can do with all those weapons. Drafting him also gave me the advantage of not having to worry about taking a backup QB until the later rounds. I'm not a Flacco fan, but I should only have to start him on Bradys bye week. Flacco will be playing the browns that week. I can also always grab someone off waivers if need be.
RBs - McCoy should be a PPR stud again this year. He can do it all - run, catch, and score tds. Wanted to make sure I grabbed Dion Lewis as a handcuff in case of injury. I believe I should have at least one solid starter to go along with McCoy between Brown, Spiller and Blount. Theirs a chance that 2/3 of them pan out and I can start one as a flex as well. Brown showed flashes last year and should get the touches to be productive. Spiller has to compete with Freddy Jax for touches, but hes talented and can score points on the ground as well as through the air. I also think the Bills will be much improved this season and wouldn't be surprised to see both RBs scoring well. Blount may have Martin breathing down his back, but hes certainly a talented runner and I cant just see him disappearing completely. Benson was a depth pick who I don't expect much from.
Wrs - Absolutley love AJ Green. Drafted him last year and watched him quite a bit. He's one of the most talented WRs in the league. I expect 80+ catches and 10+ tds. Miles Austin has averaged 4.59 catches, 15.23 ypc, 0.59 tds over the last 3 years which works out to 73/1111/9 tds. Not too shabby for a WR2 in the 5th round. And with the recent Dez Bryant arrest, I like Austin even more. I'm not a huge Desean Jackson fan unless its a best ball league. Hes very inconsistent, but I felt he was the best player available at 7.03 and I needed another WR. He should be an OK flex play. Lance Moore and Nate Washington are definitely not sexy picks, but they are productive veterans who get the job done. I actually view them as steals in the 11th and 12th rounds. Moore could see more targets come his way with Meachem now gone and Washington could easily be the highest scoring WR for Tennessee again with all the problems surrounding Britt. Great depth guys and I imagine I will be starting them at flex in some weeks. LaFell, Ford, and Sanders are all young guys with upside that I took as late round fliers. Would be happy if even just 1/3 panned out.
Tes - Vernon Davis should be a solid starter. My view is that Moss should be able to stretch the field and open things up in the middle for Davis. I actually think Alex Smith will be a solid Qb2 this year with all the weapons at his disposal. I like Olsen as a backup and wouldn't be surprised to see him start at flex some weeks since its 1.5 ppr for Tes. Shockey is gone so his work load should increase. Overall not estatic about this group, but its not a worry either.
Pk - I always select a kicker in the last round and end up choosing the highest ranked player on the FBG list.
DT - I prefer to use the 'rent-a-defense' strategy. Minny has a great week one matchup at home versus the Jags and a pretty good week two matchup at the Colts. Ill probably end up dumping them week three for a better matchup.
POS Player Name Team Pick Bye
QB Tom Brady NEP 2.10 9
QB Joe Flacco BAL 15.03 8
RB LeSean McCoy PHI 1.03 7
RB Donald Brown IND 6.10 4
RB C.J. Spiller BUF 8.10 8
RB LeGarrette Blount TBB 10.10 5
RB Dion Lewis PHI 16.10 7
RB Cedric Benson CIN 18.10 8
WR AJ Green CIN 3.03 8
WR Miles Austin DAL 5.03 5
WR DeSean Jackson PHI 7.03 7
WR Lance Moore NOS 11.03 6
WR Nate Washington TEN 12.10 11
WR Brandon LaFell CAR 13.03 6
WR Jacoby Ford OAK 14.10 5
WR Emmanuel Sanders PIT 17.03 4
TE Vernon Davis SFO 4.10 9
TE Greg Olsen CAR 9.03 6
DT Minnesota Vikings MIN 19.03 11
Very happy with my team overall. I got some quality starters and a nice amount of depth. Also managed to get a good mixture of reliable veterans and young players on the rise. I like this team much better than the one I drafted out of the 12 spot in the first mock
QBs - Brady in the 2nd is great value. I actually think hes a bit of steal there. He's one of the safest players in all of fantasy football and has a legitimate chance to be the #1 overall player this year. Its scary to think what he can do with all those weapons. Drafting him also gave me the advantage of not having to worry about taking a backup QB until the later rounds. I'm not a Flacco fan, but I should only have to start him on Bradys bye week. Flacco will be playing the browns that week. I can also always grab someone off waivers if need be.
RBs - McCoy should be a PPR stud again this year. He can do it all - run, catch, and score tds. Wanted to make sure I grabbed Dion Lewis as a handcuff in case of injury. I believe I should have at least one solid starter to go along with McCoy between Brown, Spiller and Blount. Theirs a chance that 2/3 of them pan out and I can start one as a flex as well. Brown showed flashes last year and should get the touches to be productive. Spiller has to compete with Freddy Jax for touches, but hes talented and can score points on the ground as well as through the air. I also think the Bills will be much improved this season and wouldn't be surprised to see both RBs scoring well. Blount may have Martin breathing down his back, but hes certainly a talented runner and I cant just see him disappearing completely. Benson was a depth pick who I don't expect much from.
Wrs - Absolutley love AJ Green. Drafted him last year and watched him quite a bit. He's one of the most talented WRs in the league. I expect 80+ catches and 10+ tds. Miles Austin has averaged 4.59 catches, 15.23 ypc, 0.59 tds over the last 3 years which works out to 73/1111/9 tds. Not too shabby for a WR2 in the 5th round. And with the recent Dez Bryant arrest, I like Austin even more. I'm not a huge Desean Jackson fan unless its a best ball league. Hes very inconsistent, but I felt he was the best player available at 7.03 and I needed another WR. He should be an OK flex play. Lance Moore and Nate Washington are definitely not sexy picks, but they are productive veterans who get the job done. I actually view them as steals in the 11th and 12th rounds. Moore could see more targets come his way with Meachem now gone and Washington could easily be the highest scoring WR for Tennessee again with all the problems surrounding Britt. Great depth guys and I imagine I will be starting them at flex in some weeks. LaFell, Ford, and Sanders are all young guys with upside that I took as late round fliers. Would be happy if even just 1/3 panned out.
Tes - Vernon Davis should be a solid starter. My view is that Moss should be able to stretch the field and open things up in the middle for Davis. I actually think Alex Smith will be a solid Qb2 this year with all the weapons at his disposal. I like Olsen as a backup and wouldn't be surprised to see him start at flex some weeks since its 1.5 ppr for Tes. Shockey is gone so his work load should increase. Overall not estatic about this group, but its not a worry either.
Pk - I always select a kicker in the last round and end up choosing the highest ranked player on the FBG list.
DT - I prefer to use the 'rent-a-defense' strategy. Minny has a great week one matchup at home versus the Jags and a pretty good week two matchup at the Colts. Ill probably end up dumping them week three for a better matchup.
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Sorry guys, I had a busy weekend with my son's baptism so I didn't get a chance to make my picks and become "Computer Controlled" for the final 3 picks.
But here my analysis of my draft:
Modog814
POS Player Name Team Pick Bye
QB Michael Vick PHI 4.06 7
QB Sam Bradford STL 15.07 9
QB Kevin Kolb ARI 18.06 10
I think Vick was the cheapest QB of all the QB's I think have a shot at finishing #1. I think he rebounds off last years stats and the added running dimension is such a bonus. Bradford is probably a relatively weak QB2 especially considering the injury waiting to happen Vick is my #1. However, I hopefully don't have to play him much. By the time I got around to looking for a backup QB, I didn't see any that stood out so I waited longer and just grabbed Bradford. Ironically, Kolb was a computer selection for me, but I actually planned on taking him at the end of the draft anyway. He had a rough, injury ridden first season in Arizona, but I think people have given up on him too quickly. I think he could easily perform as a solid QB2.
RB Marshawn Lynch SEA 2.06 11
RB Fred Jackson BUF 3.07 8
RB Ryan Williams ARI 9.07 10
RB Daniel Thomas MIA 12.06 7
Lynch selection was made prior to his arrest. Now, there is no way I'd draft Lynch as a starter in this league. But at the time, I was getting a workhorse with no real threat behind him. I think Fred Jackson in the 3rd is value. He was dominant last year before getting injured which is was a broken bone not a ligament tear, so he should be able to return to full form. Sure the emergence of CJ Spiller last year could be concerning, but I think Jackson is still the lead dog, and he'll grab another 80 to 100 points with his role in the receiving game. I've never been a fan of Beanie Wells and never quite saw in him what others did. I think he's very fragile and sooner or later Ryan Williams will get his shot, and take over the job full time. Daniel Thomas actually performed well in the first couple games last year, but then got hampered with injuries and just couldn't recover. He's behind Bush on the depth chart but Bush has a history of nagging injuries. In addition, reports out of Miami are that they play to play at a very fast pace on offense which means Thomas will be on the field for plenty of snaps as they rotate players to keep them fresh.
WR Larry Fitzgerald ARI 1.07 10
WR Kenny Britt TEN 5.07 11
WR Sidney Rice SEA 10.06 11
WR Justin Blackmon JAC 11.07 6
WR Danny Amendola STL 13.07 9
WR Chad Ochocinco MIA 16.06 7
WR Jonathan Baldwin KCC 17.07 7
Fitz is a solid, yet unspectactular selection at 7th overall. At the time I really wasn't feeling any of the RB's at that spot, and was really hoping Graham or Calvin would fall to me there. Gronk was never a consideration here as I have my doubts about him this year. Just too many question marks for me for a first round pick. That said, Fitz will get his numbers and I think Arizona improves this year. A full offseason working with Kolb (or whoever they decide to use) will help the chemistry that just wasn't there last season. The Britt selection was prior to the arrest and like Lynch he basically becomes (at least to me) undraftable unless you can get him as a reserve player. I had high hopes for him, it just doesn't look like he's matured though. I think Sidney Rice in the 10th could be a steal. Flynn should be an upgrade of Tarvaris, and Rice is still young. If he can put the injury bug behind him, he could do some real damage. I don't expect much out of Blackmon playing as a rookie on Jacksonville, but he'll probably lead the team in targets and 65/850/6 isn't out of the question. Amendola is worth a shot in a PPR format. He's a guy would very quietly could get you some points if he returns to being Bradfords go to guy. Ochocinco is probably the most talented WR on Miami. In the 16th round, it's no risk and all reward here. I don't expect vintage ocho, but he could surprise and put up a few good games as a fill in. Baldwin might win the #2 job on KC.
TE Fred Davis WAS 6.06 10
TE Dustin Keller NYJ 7.07 9
TE Jermaine Gresham CIN 8.06 8
In this format, the difference maker is TE. I couldn't seem to grab a Stud TE (was looking for Graham, Gates or Hernandez), but ended up with 3 whom I think could all break the top 12. Griffin is definitely not a downgrade for Davis, so I don't see why he can't reproduce last years numbers where he finished 13th in TE scoring, but remember that was in 12 games (suspension) Prorating his year, he would have finished 5th in scoring. Keller finished 9th in TE scoring last year and I think with Plaxico gone, he'll see his targets increase. The presense of Tebow has me worried a little as I feel Tebow starting will kill all of Kellers Value. Gresham finished 14th in TE scoring last year, but he missed 2 games. He's entering his 3rd year and improved in targets/receptions/yards/Td's despite playing 1 fewer game. If Dalton progresses I think we could see some big things from Gresham this year. I anticipate using the 2 Flex positions as TE's.
DT Baltimore Ravens BAL 14.06 8
DT Denver Broncos DEN 19.07 7
But here my analysis of my draft:
Modog814
POS Player Name Team Pick Bye
QB Michael Vick PHI 4.06 7
QB Sam Bradford STL 15.07 9
QB Kevin Kolb ARI 18.06 10
I think Vick was the cheapest QB of all the QB's I think have a shot at finishing #1. I think he rebounds off last years stats and the added running dimension is such a bonus. Bradford is probably a relatively weak QB2 especially considering the injury waiting to happen Vick is my #1. However, I hopefully don't have to play him much. By the time I got around to looking for a backup QB, I didn't see any that stood out so I waited longer and just grabbed Bradford. Ironically, Kolb was a computer selection for me, but I actually planned on taking him at the end of the draft anyway. He had a rough, injury ridden first season in Arizona, but I think people have given up on him too quickly. I think he could easily perform as a solid QB2.
RB Marshawn Lynch SEA 2.06 11
RB Fred Jackson BUF 3.07 8
RB Ryan Williams ARI 9.07 10
RB Daniel Thomas MIA 12.06 7
Lynch selection was made prior to his arrest. Now, there is no way I'd draft Lynch as a starter in this league. But at the time, I was getting a workhorse with no real threat behind him. I think Fred Jackson in the 3rd is value. He was dominant last year before getting injured which is was a broken bone not a ligament tear, so he should be able to return to full form. Sure the emergence of CJ Spiller last year could be concerning, but I think Jackson is still the lead dog, and he'll grab another 80 to 100 points with his role in the receiving game. I've never been a fan of Beanie Wells and never quite saw in him what others did. I think he's very fragile and sooner or later Ryan Williams will get his shot, and take over the job full time. Daniel Thomas actually performed well in the first couple games last year, but then got hampered with injuries and just couldn't recover. He's behind Bush on the depth chart but Bush has a history of nagging injuries. In addition, reports out of Miami are that they play to play at a very fast pace on offense which means Thomas will be on the field for plenty of snaps as they rotate players to keep them fresh.
WR Larry Fitzgerald ARI 1.07 10
WR Kenny Britt TEN 5.07 11
WR Sidney Rice SEA 10.06 11
WR Justin Blackmon JAC 11.07 6
WR Danny Amendola STL 13.07 9
WR Chad Ochocinco MIA 16.06 7
WR Jonathan Baldwin KCC 17.07 7
Fitz is a solid, yet unspectactular selection at 7th overall. At the time I really wasn't feeling any of the RB's at that spot, and was really hoping Graham or Calvin would fall to me there. Gronk was never a consideration here as I have my doubts about him this year. Just too many question marks for me for a first round pick. That said, Fitz will get his numbers and I think Arizona improves this year. A full offseason working with Kolb (or whoever they decide to use) will help the chemistry that just wasn't there last season. The Britt selection was prior to the arrest and like Lynch he basically becomes (at least to me) undraftable unless you can get him as a reserve player. I had high hopes for him, it just doesn't look like he's matured though. I think Sidney Rice in the 10th could be a steal. Flynn should be an upgrade of Tarvaris, and Rice is still young. If he can put the injury bug behind him, he could do some real damage. I don't expect much out of Blackmon playing as a rookie on Jacksonville, but he'll probably lead the team in targets and 65/850/6 isn't out of the question. Amendola is worth a shot in a PPR format. He's a guy would very quietly could get you some points if he returns to being Bradfords go to guy. Ochocinco is probably the most talented WR on Miami. In the 16th round, it's no risk and all reward here. I don't expect vintage ocho, but he could surprise and put up a few good games as a fill in. Baldwin might win the #2 job on KC.
TE Fred Davis WAS 6.06 10
TE Dustin Keller NYJ 7.07 9
TE Jermaine Gresham CIN 8.06 8
In this format, the difference maker is TE. I couldn't seem to grab a Stud TE (was looking for Graham, Gates or Hernandez), but ended up with 3 whom I think could all break the top 12. Griffin is definitely not a downgrade for Davis, so I don't see why he can't reproduce last years numbers where he finished 13th in TE scoring, but remember that was in 12 games (suspension) Prorating his year, he would have finished 5th in scoring. Keller finished 9th in TE scoring last year and I think with Plaxico gone, he'll see his targets increase. The presense of Tebow has me worried a little as I feel Tebow starting will kill all of Kellers Value. Gresham finished 14th in TE scoring last year, but he missed 2 games. He's entering his 3rd year and improved in targets/receptions/yards/Td's despite playing 1 fewer game. If Dalton progresses I think we could see some big things from Gresham this year. I anticipate using the 2 Flex positions as TE's.
DT Baltimore Ravens BAL 14.06 8
DT Denver Broncos DEN 19.07 7
footballman_696969
Footballguy
In evaluating your team people have to keep in mind that the Lynch and Britt selections were made before their arrests. That being said, you have an OK team, but you are lacking depth. I absolutely love Vick 4.06, but you have to draft a good QB2 to back him up. Sure their is a chance he can finish as the #1 overall QB and even the #1 overall player, but their is also a good chance he misses a few games due to injury. Lynch and FJax are very solid starters, but you don't have much behind them. Ryan Williams is coming off a bad injury and isn't even set to be the starter for the Cards. Daniel Thomas looked awful last year, and has to compete with Bush and a rookie for carries on what should be a weak offense. And then you have no one behind them. I would have made sure to get Turbin. I would have also made sure to get good depth at the WR position if I was going to take a shot on Britt. I'm not a fan of Rice or Blackmon this year due to the QBs throwing them the ball. I do love your combination of TEs though.
Thanks. My strategy is to try and win the whole thing not just my league. I'm willing to take risks there. I think it's important to be strong at TE, and since I missed out on my 3 Top TE choices I believe I was forced to go with 3 who I think could all be top 12. I had to sacrafice depth there. My draft strategy was to focus on getting the 8 best position players I could get and work the waiver wire for depth. I'm going to take a look at your analysis in a second.
Overall I like your team. You can go wrong with Brady at QB. I think you're RB's are weak though, even though you have a ton of them and are hoping one or two come up big. McCoy is solid, but I don't think Brown or Blount are anything special and both could end up as back-ups to start the year. Spiller is a nice pick, but I think he'll be too inconsistant to rely on unless Jackson goes down. You got a great set of WR's with solid depth. I like the Davis pick, and I agree that I Alex Smith takes a huge step in his career. Olsen should enjoy a nice year with Shockey gone. In the end I agree with your sentiment that you shouldn't be estatic with this group, but you shouldn't worry either.My biggest concern is that I think you're 2nd flex could be a little weak to start the season as you won't know which of your "depth" guys to plug in. In the end, someone should emerge, you just may not know who it is for a while.
Thanks for letting me into the draft and GOOD Luck to all of you "mockers".
QBs-P. Manning 6:08, Cutler 9:05. Well I got the 2 QBs that I wanted when picking around the 1:05 area. I do believe that Peyton is back and will produce at a mid level #1. I am very enthused about Cutler and believe that he could, also, produce as a mid level #1.
RBs-Sproles 2:08, Peterson 3:05, Greene 5:05, McGahee 7:05, Turbin 10:08. Another group that I'm VERY happy with. I don't see Sproles' numbers changing just because of the problems in NO. Nobody, but NOBODY, recovers like Adrian. I expect him to be going at top end by the 3rd game. Greebe is fine as a #3 or a flex/Bye week sub. I believe that McGahee is the steal. Fox will NOT take a chance with Manning and put Hillman in as a starter. Besides, Fox never has used Rooks much. I have NO PROBLEMS going in with Willis as my #2. I did get Turbin after the Lynch arrest and realize that he won't last until the 10th Rnd again. But, he was out there for others before the pick got to me.
WRs-Johnson/Det 1:05, Smith/Balt 8:08, Baldwin/Sea 12:08, Bess 13:05, Josh Gordon 14:08. If I need to say anything about Calvin, then you folks probably should NOT be dropping $350 for a FBGs team. Torrie did have some drops last year but I feel that a lot of that was due to the "lock down" and I expect a BIG improvement this year. Baldwin takes over for Williams (who was cut earlier) and there has been a LOT of good talk coming out of Seattle about Baldwin's abilities. If Flynn is worth a crap, Baldwin could produce at a high level #2. Bess is a super #4 in a PPR league. I'm estimating 65-70 catches, 700 or so yards and 5 TDs. Josh Gordon, what can I say. If you "swing for the fences", then Gordon is your Poster Child. He is young, big, runs fast, has a big wing span, big hands and can catch. I smoked a little "Mary Jane" in college and I'd much rather have him do that than be a drunk that is out driving the roads. I think that he starts from week 1 because they will try to set up a rapport between him and Weeden. Josh is, at least, a solid #4 with a #2 potential imho. I will take these 5 in any draft I have.
TEs-Gates 4:08, Clark 11:05, Allen 19:05. Would have liked a little more depth here, but you can't have everything. If Gates is healthy, then he's easily a TOP 5. Clark s/b a decent 1 week/BYE week filler. I'm excited about Allen. I think that Indy tries a lot of 2 TE sets (Luck doesn't have to hold the ball as long) and it's VERY possible that Allen does better than Fleener.
PKs-Gost/NE 16:08, Hartley/NO 18:08. Two of the best. No worries here.
DEFs-Houston 15:05, Pats 17:05. Again, 2 very good ones. No problems here.
Frankly, I think that this is a VERY GOOD team. Grades are: QBs-A, RBs-B+, WRs-A, TEs-B+ (need the depth to hold up), PKs-A, DEFs-B+. At this point in time (before pre-season and injuries) I would be HAPPY with this team.
QBs-P. Manning 6:08, Cutler 9:05. Well I got the 2 QBs that I wanted when picking around the 1:05 area. I do believe that Peyton is back and will produce at a mid level #1. I am very enthused about Cutler and believe that he could, also, produce as a mid level #1.
RBs-Sproles 2:08, Peterson 3:05, Greene 5:05, McGahee 7:05, Turbin 10:08. Another group that I'm VERY happy with. I don't see Sproles' numbers changing just because of the problems in NO. Nobody, but NOBODY, recovers like Adrian. I expect him to be going at top end by the 3rd game. Greebe is fine as a #3 or a flex/Bye week sub. I believe that McGahee is the steal. Fox will NOT take a chance with Manning and put Hillman in as a starter. Besides, Fox never has used Rooks much. I have NO PROBLEMS going in with Willis as my #2. I did get Turbin after the Lynch arrest and realize that he won't last until the 10th Rnd again. But, he was out there for others before the pick got to me.
WRs-Johnson/Det 1:05, Smith/Balt 8:08, Baldwin/Sea 12:08, Bess 13:05, Josh Gordon 14:08. If I need to say anything about Calvin, then you folks probably should NOT be dropping $350 for a FBGs team. Torrie did have some drops last year but I feel that a lot of that was due to the "lock down" and I expect a BIG improvement this year. Baldwin takes over for Williams (who was cut earlier) and there has been a LOT of good talk coming out of Seattle about Baldwin's abilities. If Flynn is worth a crap, Baldwin could produce at a high level #2. Bess is a super #4 in a PPR league. I'm estimating 65-70 catches, 700 or so yards and 5 TDs. Josh Gordon, what can I say. If you "swing for the fences", then Gordon is your Poster Child. He is young, big, runs fast, has a big wing span, big hands and can catch. I smoked a little "Mary Jane" in college and I'd much rather have him do that than be a drunk that is out driving the roads. I think that he starts from week 1 because they will try to set up a rapport between him and Weeden. Josh is, at least, a solid #4 with a #2 potential imho. I will take these 5 in any draft I have.
TEs-Gates 4:08, Clark 11:05, Allen 19:05. Would have liked a little more depth here, but you can't have everything. If Gates is healthy, then he's easily a TOP 5. Clark s/b a decent 1 week/BYE week filler. I'm excited about Allen. I think that Indy tries a lot of 2 TE sets (Luck doesn't have to hold the ball as long) and it's VERY possible that Allen does better than Fleener.
PKs-Gost/NE 16:08, Hartley/NO 18:08. Two of the best. No worries here.
DEFs-Houston 15:05, Pats 17:05. Again, 2 very good ones. No problems here.
Frankly, I think that this is a VERY GOOD team. Grades are: QBs-A, RBs-B+, WRs-A, TEs-B+ (need the depth to hold up), PKs-A, DEFs-B+. At this point in time (before pre-season and injuries) I would be HAPPY with this team.
footballman_696969
Footballguy
I like this team. The biggest risk is going to be ADP, but you certainly got him at the right spot. You also have some good depth behind him. Not much depth at the WR position, but most likely you will only be starting 2-3/week since your rbs are so strong. I like Gates in the 4th this year, but I'll be taking a good back up if I draft him. Not a huge Manning fan this year. I just think its a risk he returns to form, and even if he does, their could still be 10-12 QBs outscoring him. Cutler is a good QB2, but I wouldn't want to rely on him either. I just see a lot of better options. Overall good job though.
Jersey Jammer
Footballguy
Drafting from the 12th slot, I'm very pleased with the results:
5.12 - Rivers
13.12 - Fitzpatrick
Rivers should bounce back this year. Though he doesn't get hurt, Fitz can fill in. I expect Fitz to be more than a bye week filler. His numbers declined last year after his rib injury. He'll be better this year and is in an improved offense for a team that can win a lot of games.
1.12 - Forte
2.01 - T Rich
4.01 - D Martin
11.12 - B Scott
12.01 - R Jennings
16.01 - J Ringer
Three solid starters and a couple capable backups, with Jennings being the home run if something happens to MJD. I normally stay away from rookies but these two should be fine. T Rich may not reach the extreme numbers many are projecting, but he should be a lock for 300 touches. TB could easily have 400 rushing attempts, so even if Martin gets just 1/2 of those, and 30 - 40 receipts, he's a solid #3 RB, and that's being conservative.
3.12 - Cruz
6.01 - Maclin
9.12 - M Floyd
10.01 - Denarius Moore
16.01 - Hankerson
Cruz is a solid starter, even if his numbers are down from last year. Maclin will surprise and is a great low cost option in a PPR. Floyd and/or D Moore can break out, but I probably won't need them unless I have an injury or as bye week fillers. One of the Wash WRs will have a good year. It will probably be Garcon, but Hankerson is well worth a Round 16 flier with the possibility he'll be the annointed one.
7.12 - Celek
8.01 - Tamme
14.01 - Kellen Davis
17.12 - J Casey
I'll probably be starting both Celek and Tamme week 1. I'm expecting both to exceed their ADP, though I'm not arguing they'll finish as top 3 TEs. I'm expecting that either K Davis or Casey will surprise. Tice loves to throw to TEs, and Casey is actually a WR. I was happy to grab them so late.
20.01 - M Bryant
I'll take a PK who has averaged 127 points the past 2 years, kicking in a dome in an improving offense.
18.01 - NYJ Def
19.12 - Cincinn Def
I like having 2 above average defenses I can play matchups with. I did consider taking S Smith instead of Cin. He may end up being the St. L. slot WR this year (the coaches are high on him) but chose to pass on him and go with the 2nd Def.
5.12 - Rivers
13.12 - Fitzpatrick
Rivers should bounce back this year. Though he doesn't get hurt, Fitz can fill in. I expect Fitz to be more than a bye week filler. His numbers declined last year after his rib injury. He'll be better this year and is in an improved offense for a team that can win a lot of games.
1.12 - Forte
2.01 - T Rich
4.01 - D Martin
11.12 - B Scott
12.01 - R Jennings
16.01 - J Ringer
Three solid starters and a couple capable backups, with Jennings being the home run if something happens to MJD. I normally stay away from rookies but these two should be fine. T Rich may not reach the extreme numbers many are projecting, but he should be a lock for 300 touches. TB could easily have 400 rushing attempts, so even if Martin gets just 1/2 of those, and 30 - 40 receipts, he's a solid #3 RB, and that's being conservative.
3.12 - Cruz
6.01 - Maclin
9.12 - M Floyd
10.01 - Denarius Moore
16.01 - Hankerson
Cruz is a solid starter, even if his numbers are down from last year. Maclin will surprise and is a great low cost option in a PPR. Floyd and/or D Moore can break out, but I probably won't need them unless I have an injury or as bye week fillers. One of the Wash WRs will have a good year. It will probably be Garcon, but Hankerson is well worth a Round 16 flier with the possibility he'll be the annointed one.
7.12 - Celek
8.01 - Tamme
14.01 - Kellen Davis
17.12 - J Casey
I'll probably be starting both Celek and Tamme week 1. I'm expecting both to exceed their ADP, though I'm not arguing they'll finish as top 3 TEs. I'm expecting that either K Davis or Casey will surprise. Tice loves to throw to TEs, and Casey is actually a WR. I was happy to grab them so late.
20.01 - M Bryant
I'll take a PK who has averaged 127 points the past 2 years, kicking in a dome in an improving offense.
18.01 - NYJ Def
19.12 - Cincinn Def
I like having 2 above average defenses I can play matchups with. I did consider taking S Smith instead of Cin. He may end up being the St. L. slot WR this year (the coaches are high on him) but chose to pass on him and go with the 2nd Def.
footballman_696969
Footballguy
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
OK, here's what I ended up with out of the 11th spot:
Current Roster
POS Player Name Team Pick Bye
QB Tony Romo DAL 5.11 5
QB Ben Roethlisberger PIT 10.02 4
QB Christian Ponder MIN 17.11 11
RB Darren McFadden OAK 1.11 5
RB DeMarco Murray DAL 2.02 5
RB Ben Tate HOU 7.11 8
RB Peyton Hillis KCC 9.11 7
RB Isaiah Pead STL 13.11 9
RB Danny Woodhead NEP 20.02 9
WR Greg Jennings GBP 3.11 10
WR Mike Wallace PIT 4.02 4
WR Steve Johnson BUF 6.02 8
WR Anquan Boldin BAL 12.02 8
WR Brian Quick STL 14.02 9
WR Kendall Wright TEN 16.02 11
TE Owen Daniels HOU 8.02 8
TE Heath Miller PIT 11.11 4
TE Scott Chandler BUF 15.11 8
PK Matt Prater DEN 19.11 7
DT Detroit Lions DET 18.02 5
I waited a little bit, but not too long on QB. I thought it paid off pretty well. I think Romo will have a good year, especially if Bryant pulls his head out of his ### and plays. I also like Big Ben this year quite a bit. I almost waited another go-around for a backup, but being near the turn, I didn't want to wait any longer. Really like my top two. Took a flier on Ponder. For a #3, he is fine. He could actually put up decent stats in his second year. He seems to have some good tools.
RB: My top two depend on health, but they are both possible top 5 guys this year. Obviously they have a bye week conflict, which I would have paid closer attention to in a real draft. McFadden will be awesome in a ppr league, if he is healthy, and stays there. Not much to argue about there. I like Murray quite a bit this year. I'm not a Felix fan, and didn't even bother to handcuff. Took Tate as he'll be a good flex most week if Foster is healthy, and a #1 RB is he's not. I think Hillis will have a big role in KC, with lots of carries to go around. Pead and Woodhead were fliers. I'd probably drop Woodhead in a real league for a #2 DST.
Absolutely love my top 3 WRs of Jennings, Wallace and Stevie Johnson. Jennings and Wallace speak for themselves. Johnson wasn't healthy most of last year, and should be in for a very solid year. As a #3 he is awesome. My depth drops of with Boldin and then two rookies. Boldin faltered last year, but should make hay with Torrey Smith running the deep routes. He's OK as a #4. Took fliers on two rookie WRs. Both are thrust into decent situations and will likely see some decent playing time early on, and probably building up time as the year progesses.
I waited on TE in this draft. I almost took Gronk with my second, but wanted a solid #2 RB as I didn't feel much of value at RB would be left in the 3rd and beyond. Daniels is healthy again and should be a frequent target in Houston. Andre Johnson will command a lot of attention, which should leave Daniels open underneath a bit. I also like Heath Miller this year as a bounce-back TE. Pitt strengthened their O line, which should free Miller up a bit to go out on passes a bit more. Chandler was a flier 3rd TE. I targeted a couple other guys, but they all fell before my spot.
K - Prater. Thin air. Manning in town. Strong leg. Should be good
DST - Lions. Like the unit pretty well. Explosive O will make others play catchup. Strong D line should produce sacks. If doing again I'd probably not draft Woodhead, and would draft a second DST.
Final thoughts - I feel pretty good about this draft, and think it would challenge the other teams in the league pretty well. Balanced. Good depth. I waited on QB and TE a bit, but feel they turned out pretty well. I won't give myself a grade, but feel free to if anyone wants, as I'd like to hear thoughts and overall assessment. Good drafting with you. Thanks....
Current Roster
POS Player Name Team Pick Bye
QB Tony Romo DAL 5.11 5
QB Ben Roethlisberger PIT 10.02 4
QB Christian Ponder MIN 17.11 11
RB Darren McFadden OAK 1.11 5
RB DeMarco Murray DAL 2.02 5
RB Ben Tate HOU 7.11 8
RB Peyton Hillis KCC 9.11 7
RB Isaiah Pead STL 13.11 9
RB Danny Woodhead NEP 20.02 9
WR Greg Jennings GBP 3.11 10
WR Mike Wallace PIT 4.02 4
WR Steve Johnson BUF 6.02 8
WR Anquan Boldin BAL 12.02 8
WR Brian Quick STL 14.02 9
WR Kendall Wright TEN 16.02 11
TE Owen Daniels HOU 8.02 8
TE Heath Miller PIT 11.11 4
TE Scott Chandler BUF 15.11 8
PK Matt Prater DEN 19.11 7
DT Detroit Lions DET 18.02 5
I waited a little bit, but not too long on QB. I thought it paid off pretty well. I think Romo will have a good year, especially if Bryant pulls his head out of his ### and plays. I also like Big Ben this year quite a bit. I almost waited another go-around for a backup, but being near the turn, I didn't want to wait any longer. Really like my top two. Took a flier on Ponder. For a #3, he is fine. He could actually put up decent stats in his second year. He seems to have some good tools.
RB: My top two depend on health, but they are both possible top 5 guys this year. Obviously they have a bye week conflict, which I would have paid closer attention to in a real draft. McFadden will be awesome in a ppr league, if he is healthy, and stays there. Not much to argue about there. I like Murray quite a bit this year. I'm not a Felix fan, and didn't even bother to handcuff. Took Tate as he'll be a good flex most week if Foster is healthy, and a #1 RB is he's not. I think Hillis will have a big role in KC, with lots of carries to go around. Pead and Woodhead were fliers. I'd probably drop Woodhead in a real league for a #2 DST.
Absolutely love my top 3 WRs of Jennings, Wallace and Stevie Johnson. Jennings and Wallace speak for themselves. Johnson wasn't healthy most of last year, and should be in for a very solid year. As a #3 he is awesome. My depth drops of with Boldin and then two rookies. Boldin faltered last year, but should make hay with Torrey Smith running the deep routes. He's OK as a #4. Took fliers on two rookie WRs. Both are thrust into decent situations and will likely see some decent playing time early on, and probably building up time as the year progesses.
I waited on TE in this draft. I almost took Gronk with my second, but wanted a solid #2 RB as I didn't feel much of value at RB would be left in the 3rd and beyond. Daniels is healthy again and should be a frequent target in Houston. Andre Johnson will command a lot of attention, which should leave Daniels open underneath a bit. I also like Heath Miller this year as a bounce-back TE. Pitt strengthened their O line, which should free Miller up a bit to go out on passes a bit more. Chandler was a flier 3rd TE. I targeted a couple other guys, but they all fell before my spot.
K - Prater. Thin air. Manning in town. Strong leg. Should be good
DST - Lions. Like the unit pretty well. Explosive O will make others play catchup. Strong D line should produce sacks. If doing again I'd probably not draft Woodhead, and would draft a second DST.
Final thoughts - I feel pretty good about this draft, and think it would challenge the other teams in the league pretty well. Balanced. Good depth. I waited on QB and TE a bit, but feel they turned out pretty well. I won't give myself a grade, but feel free to if anyone wants, as I'd like to hear thoughts and overall assessment. Good drafting with you. Thanks....
Jersey Jammer
Footballguy
Good team. It's proof (along with mine - from the 12th slot) that the later slots can be successful. But there are a few concerns: 1) I think you may have to start a weak 2nd flex. One flex will be one of your WRs. Your other flex will have to be either Hillis or Miller. Nothing special. 2) Wallace is a very inconsistent PPR WR, who faded last year. I'd have picked up Bryant, Colston, Harvin, and even A Miles before him; 3) Murray and DMC are very strong, but because of their injury history I'd like to have more depth behind them. You'll need it for bye weeks even if they stay healthy; 4) Many are speculating Olsen will be a sleeper TE, but he needs to be for you. I also picked a low end #1 TE (Celek) but also picked up 3 good backups (including Tamme)to insure I always have a quality starting TE (if not 2 of them...)
footballman_696969
Footballguy
-love the QB combo-so many players I would have taken over Murray at the 2.02 pick-hillis in the 9th could end up being a steal-Love your starting wrs, but you are lacking depth at that position-TEs are obviously your weak spot.. I'm not a fan of the trio you gotGood job.
jhexel
Footballguy
QB Aaron Rodgers GBP 1.10 10
QB Matt Schaub HOU 13.10 8
Surprised Rodgers fell - but, just goes to show how deep QB is this year. Going QB/TE in my first 2 rounds really set-back anticipated depth/productivity at the RB position.
RB Issac Redman PIT 5.10 4
RB Beanie Wells ARI 7.10 10
RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis CIN 8.03 8
RB Toby Gerhart MIN 10.03 11
RB Timothy Hightower WAS 12.03 10
Yuk...like I said - I'd expect RB to be my Achilles. Targeted ADP in the 3rd round - he went 3-4 picks prior to my selection.
WR Hakeem Nicks NYG 3.10 11
WR Eric Decker DEN 6.03 7
WR Robert Meachem SDC 9.10 7
WR Mike Williams TBB 11.10 5
WR Earl Bennett CHI 14.03 6
WR Jerome Simpson MIN 16.03 11
Meh...
TE Rob Gronkowski NEP 2.03 9
TE Aaron Hernandez NEP 4.03 9
TE Rob Housler ARI 18.03 10
TE Jordan Cameron CLE 19.10 10
Sacrificed RB for 2 top 5 PPR TE's (IMO)
PK Sebastian Janikowski OAK 17.10 5
PK Jason Hanson DET 20.03 5
Needed a kicker...grabbed 2
DT Green Bay Packers GBP 15.10 10
Rounds out the squad...again, thanks for the mock.
QB Matt Schaub HOU 13.10 8
Surprised Rodgers fell - but, just goes to show how deep QB is this year. Going QB/TE in my first 2 rounds really set-back anticipated depth/productivity at the RB position.
RB Issac Redman PIT 5.10 4
RB Beanie Wells ARI 7.10 10
RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis CIN 8.03 8
RB Toby Gerhart MIN 10.03 11
RB Timothy Hightower WAS 12.03 10
Yuk...like I said - I'd expect RB to be my Achilles. Targeted ADP in the 3rd round - he went 3-4 picks prior to my selection.
WR Hakeem Nicks NYG 3.10 11
WR Eric Decker DEN 6.03 7
WR Robert Meachem SDC 9.10 7
WR Mike Williams TBB 11.10 5
WR Earl Bennett CHI 14.03 6
WR Jerome Simpson MIN 16.03 11
Meh...
TE Rob Gronkowski NEP 2.03 9
TE Aaron Hernandez NEP 4.03 9
TE Rob Housler ARI 18.03 10
TE Jordan Cameron CLE 19.10 10
Sacrificed RB for 2 top 5 PPR TE's (IMO)
PK Sebastian Janikowski OAK 17.10 5
PK Jason Hanson DET 20.03 5
Needed a kicker...grabbed 2
DT Green Bay Packers GBP 15.10 10
Rounds out the squad...again, thanks for the mock.
Jersey Jammer
Footballguy
Finding 2 RBs to start will be a problem with that bunch. I'm also not sure who your 2nd flex would be. Decker should make a decent #2 WR, but Meachem will be a big ? mark the first couple weeks so I don't think you can count on him for that role. Sometimes there can be a bit of a "sugar high" effect when you agressively get an early QB and/or TE(s). It feels good at the time but then reality sinks in when you get stuck w/o RBs you can count on.
I drafted in the 2 hole and was pretty happy with the out come even though I
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9/-robably have the all old team LOL.
QB'S I waited and ended up with Matty Ice witch I am find with I think they will throw it around alot this year so I think top 5-8 is a possibility. My backup is Carson Palmer should be a decent backup top 15 is a possibility.
Rb obviously rice is a no brainer. Drafted Jackson at 2.11 hoping that he can has 1 more year in the tank and puts up his usual numbers. Williams should be a decent 3rd back with Jones and Carter as possible fill in flex contributers.
Wr I like what I did here the combination of White Colston and Smith I should be set and with Holmes and Bey I have 2 more that could help out.
TE is not a strong suit hopefully Gonzo has 1 more year left in the tank and will get me bye
QB Matt Ryan ATL 7.02 7
QB Carson Palmer OAK 13.02 5
RB Ray Rice BAL 1.02 8
RB Steven Jackson STL 2.11 9
RB DeAngelo Williams CAR 9.02 6
RB Felix Jones DAL 11.02 5
RB Delone Carter IND 14.11 4
RB Da'Rel Scott NYG 20.11 11
WR Roddy White ATL 3.02 7
WR Marques Colston NOS 4.11 6
WR Steve Smith CAR 5.02 6
WR Santonio Holmes NYJ 8.11 9
WR Darrius Heyward-Bey OAK 10.11 5
TE Tony Gonzalez ATL 6.11 7
TE Ed Dickson BAL 12.11 8
TE Kellen Winslow SEA 17.02 11
PK David Akers SFO 16.11 9
PK Alex Henery PHI 19.02 7
DT Philadelphia Eagles 15.02 7
DT Seattle Seahawks 18.11 11
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9/-robably have the all old team LOL.
QB'S I waited and ended up with Matty Ice witch I am find with I think they will throw it around alot this year so I think top 5-8 is a possibility. My backup is Carson Palmer should be a decent backup top 15 is a possibility.
Rb obviously rice is a no brainer. Drafted Jackson at 2.11 hoping that he can has 1 more year in the tank and puts up his usual numbers. Williams should be a decent 3rd back with Jones and Carter as possible fill in flex contributers.
Wr I like what I did here the combination of White Colston and Smith I should be set and with Holmes and Bey I have 2 more that could help out.
TE is not a strong suit hopefully Gonzo has 1 more year left in the tank and will get me bye
QB Matt Ryan ATL 7.02 7
QB Carson Palmer OAK 13.02 5
RB Ray Rice BAL 1.02 8
RB Steven Jackson STL 2.11 9
RB DeAngelo Williams CAR 9.02 6
RB Felix Jones DAL 11.02 5
RB Delone Carter IND 14.11 4
RB Da'Rel Scott NYG 20.11 11
WR Roddy White ATL 3.02 7
WR Marques Colston NOS 4.11 6
WR Steve Smith CAR 5.02 6
WR Santonio Holmes NYJ 8.11 9
WR Darrius Heyward-Bey OAK 10.11 5
TE Tony Gonzalez ATL 6.11 7
TE Ed Dickson BAL 12.11 8
TE Kellen Winslow SEA 17.02 11
PK David Akers SFO 16.11 9
PK Alex Henery PHI 19.02 7
DT Philadelphia Eagles 15.02 7
DT Seattle Seahawks 18.11 11
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