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Not sure if you were kidding or not Andy, but I'm in for a 4th round!!
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I'm in for 4, but can smoeone else takover upating?
So the Jets have taken:
Greg Olsen, TE Miami
Jonathan Wade, CB Tennessee
Craig Davis, WR L.S.U.
The Cardinals have taken:
Adrian Peterson, RB Oklahoma
Anthony Spencer, DE/OLB Purdue
I'm okay with that so far.
BTW - I think we should go four rounds.![]()
Is this a scenario where Peterson might not go #1 in rookie fantasy drafts?So the Jets have taken:
Greg Olsen, TE Miami
Jonathan Wade, CB Tennessee
Craig Davis, WR L.S.U.
The Cardinals have taken:
Adrian Peterson, RB Oklahoma
Anthony Spencer, DE/OLB Purdue
I'm okay with that so far.
BTW - I think we should go four rounds.![]()
You could have always traded down with the Bills....The way things shook out for the Vikes in round 2 and 3 makes me almost wish I'd taken Jamaal Anderson in the 1st instead...GDB ignoring Biabreakable's advice.
Quinn is a great prospect as well.I think it is more a difference in philosophy. I can argue both sides of what is more important between a Qb or a elite DE. Both positions have a lot of busts. That is one of the things that makes them very sought after players. Because only a few really pan out enough to be true difference makers.If you regret anything (and I wish I would have had the time to advise you) I think it would be taking Steve Smith in the 2nd round. I would have prefered to see the Vikings take Charles Johnson there. I like Johnson almost as much as Jamaal Anderson. He doesen't have quite the speed and burst pass rushing yet he is a solid all around DE. He was steal when CC drafted him for Atlanta imo (and definitly who I would have picked there).The Vikings do need Wrs badly however. Smith would not have been my choice. I would have prefered Hill if taking a Wr. But I would have taken Charles Johsnon over any of the Wrs there. I do like the Wrs who seem to pretty consistently fall to the Vikings in the 2nd round. This is one of the things that makes me feel comfortable about them picking another position in the 1st. I would not expect Charles Johnson to be available to the Vikings with thier 2nd pick. I think a lot of owners wiffed to make that happen honestly.The Vikings could have gotten Jamaal Anderson and Charles Johnson out of this draft.The way things shook out for the Vikes in round 2 and 3 makes me almost wish I'd taken Jamaal Anderson in the 1st instead...GDB ignoring Biabreakable's advice.
That player was Allison who I really like as a Wr prospect. A lot more than most I think.I was considering him for the Falcons and even more so for Carolina as the last highly talented Wr in a tier of players who are now gone. Not to say that there are not still good Wrs left... there are... but I consider every Wr after the Allison pick to have more flaws than the Wrs who have been taken so far.Biabreakable said:I especialy like the Higgins pick although there was another player I may have taken there...
Man, those two would make for a tough choice. I said what I think of McBean in the other thread, but that doesn't mean I think that's an easy pick. I love these receivers. Allison is one I have seen very little of, but man did he remind me of a very young Isaac Bruce.Allison was my other choice but I decided on McBean since I already took WR Jason Hill in the 2nd. I like the upside of McBean especially the flexibility that he will provide.
That would be pretty huge. Who would you guard? Also, did we decide to go 4 or more rounds?I considered Allison for both the Jets and Cardinals.Can you imagine having a receiver with a more speed in the Arizona offense? Their biggest problem last year came when teams figured out that neither Boldin nor Fitz were going to take them deep.
I think we go until it dies. Which appears to be right about now.Also, did we decide to go 4 or more rounds?
sorry guys.i'll pm yorkeI think we go until it dies. Which appears to be right about now.Also, did we decide to go 4 or more rounds?![]()
Game on.sorry guys.i'll pm yorkeI think we go until it dies. Which appears to be right about now.Also, did we decide to go 4 or more rounds?![]()
Darn, I guessed I messed up. I thought for some reason that Siler was off the board and I had him on my list above Rufus Alexander. I would have selected him above Rufus, but he'll do just fine.At 3.19 Rams take Brandon Siler, ILB, Florida
Siler may not be a 3 down Lber in the NFL and I have also read that he does not take on blocks as well as a team would like for an inside player. He does have good range and instincts however with good agility and agressivness to get around blockers and make plays in the backfield. A solid tackler who can create turnovers as well although he has bad hand for intercepting the ball.I had him and Black ranked very close together. I thought with the DT rotation in Carolina that his weaknesses would be pretty well covered although he would still leave a hole in Carolina's middle coverage.Black on the other hand has played more of a tweener MLB/SS role in college. Similar to how Brian Urlacher was used. And he may end up being a better fit for Carolina's defense than Siler is. Honestly I was a bit torn between these 2 players to fill a need and add depth the Lber corps. I had an outside hope of possibly being able to land both players by taking Siler 1st and Black in the 4th round. Although I seriously doubt Black would have lasted that long. Having to make a decision however I ranked Siler higher than Black on my list due to ADP and also because I see Black as a similar player to Thomas Davis who is also a LB/Safety tweener.In the end I am happy getting Black for Carolina because he can benifit from the strong DT play in front of him just as well as Siler. Black is not considered as solid a tackler but he has more speed and althletism.Darn, I guessed I messed up. I thought for some reason that Siler was off the board and I had him on my list above Rufus Alexander. I would have selected him above Rufus, but he'll do just fine.At 3.19 Rams take Brandon Siler, ILB, Florida
Worst case scenario the Panthers use Black as a SS if he cannot handle working in traffic at WLB or MLB. All 3 positions are needs for the Panthers.Positives: Has an athletic, angular build with a thick chest, broad shoulders and good muscle definition in his arms and legs, tight hips and waist and good strength for a possible position switch to safety … Runs with a quick stride, showing good flexibility and knee bend in his pass drops … Has the lateral quickness and range to make plays on the move and does a good job of flipping his hips to turn and come out of his breaks cleanly … Closes on the ball with good urgency, showing decent field awareness to make checks and adjustments … Accelerates quickly to the run alleys, but is better served playing on the edge where he can use his quickness to zero in on the ball (lacks the power to shed blocks when playing vs. the inside run) … Mirrors receivers' moves in the short area and refuses to allow any underneath cushion … Showed good improvement using his hands to reroute the tight ends and backs in man coverage, utilizing his long arms to reach around the receiver to get his hands on the ball … Does a nice job shuffling his feet working down the line and it is rare to see him take false steps when moving to the ball … Settles in nicely dropping off in the zone, handling the switch-off with ease … Springs into his tackles and is very active staying in the receiver's face … Has the range and catch-up speed to quickly recover when beaten on deep routes, doing a good job of scanning the field and keeping eye contact on the quarterback when working in the zone … Adjusts smoothly to the ball in flight, timing his leaps and extending outside the frame to look the ball in … Alert to the receivers in his area and breaks sharply out of his backpedal … Catches with his hands properly extended and has school-record leaping ability (42 inches) competing for the jump ball … Very good blitzer (rarely used though), as few linemen have the feet or retreat agility to mirror his moves once he gets past the line of scrimmage … Has a good feel for taking proper angles to the ball and has the closing speed needed to keep plays in front of him … Can get to the edge to chase down the ball carrier and has the plant-and-drive agility to close down the cutback lanes. Negatives: Has to get more active in run support (tends to shy away from inside contact, making him a better secondary fit than one who can play inside the box at the next level) … Will get engulfed by the lineman trying to plug the inside rush lanes and lacks good hand punch in attempts to shed blocks … Good at rerouting the receiver, but needs to use his hands with more force in attempts to reroute … His good weight room strength fails to translate to the football field, as he needs to strike with more force and extend his arms better in attempts to free himself when working in trash … Does not take well to hard coaching and needs to be monitored in the training room (does what is asked, nothing more) … Has a good-looking frame, but plays too passive at times, and with his physique he should be blowing people up rather than making arm tackles … Drag-down type of tackler who gets a little reckless in his play and is prone to out-running the action … Must improve his anchor, as teams capitalized when they ran the ball directly at him … More of a blitzer who lacks any type of pass rush moves to be consistent attacking the pocket off the edge. Compares To: Michael Boley, Atlanta … Teams like Black as a weakside linebacker, but he doesn't show the strength to shed blocks at that position and seems to be better suited playing on the move or in the secondary, where his marginal skills against the run won't be exposed. He has excellent closing speed and the ability to close from the backside, but he fails to use his hands to protect his body and is too slow to disengage. He gets good depth in his pass drops and is able to flip his hips and turn cleanly out of his breaks.
As am I. Let's go all 7.I'm up for doing some additional rounds.
I'm in for Round 4, but someonoe will have to start a new thread because I'm done updating. Too much real work to do.Thom Yorke said:As am I. Let's go all 7.RC94 said:I'm up for doing some additional rounds.
I agree. There are quite a few good players left, but not 4 rounds worth.I think we go four and be done. The players won't be very interesting after four. Not to me, anyway.
I'll set up a draft thread when everyone is checked in. As for discussion, it depends on how much longer everyone wants to make this mock. If its just a 4 rounder, Ill just link back to this discussion page. No need to make a new one.In. Would we start a new thread for the 4th and later rounds with a link back to this one?
Yeah, I was going to grab a WR @ #31 (meaning it would likely be a Muhammad-type guy to replace him in 2008), but Bowe and Jarrett were both gone. I think Briggs will be dealt to the Skins for #6, which the Bears will turn around and trade down to about #12-15 or so and get an extra pick. Anyway, @ #37 those receivers I name-dropped (sorry) are more like Berrian, so I felt that Grubbs was the BPA at a need position due to the aging O-line.They both should have taken Wide Receivers.I like the Bears & Colts picks.
Hey -X-, I sort of have this wide receiver shtick going. Don't mind me. Those picks were fine. I just think EVERYBODY should get one of these WRs ASAP. To me they are the class of the class. But I understand the supply could hurt the demand, some teams will wait, some teams will address other areas... I think that's insane but that's just imho.Yeah, I was going to grab a WR @ #31 (meaning it would likely be a Muhammad-type guy to replace him in 2008), but Bowe and Jarrett were both gone. I think Briggs will be dealt to the Skins for #6, which the Bears will turn around and trade down to about #12-15 or so and get an extra pick. Anyway, @ #37 those receivers I name-dropped (sorry) are more like Berrian, so I felt that Grubbs was the BPA at a need position due to the aging O-line.They both should have taken Wide Receivers.I like the Bears & Colts picks.