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Fehr's only job was to look out for the players. It's pretty clear he did an incredible job doing just that.

 
Fehr's only job was to look out for the players. It's pretty clear he did an incredible job doing just that.
Yes he did...to the detriment of the game. Don't let the door the door hit ya...

Hopefully the new guy is more in the Gene Upshaw mold.

 
Fehr's only job was to look out for the players. It's pretty clear he did an incredible job doing just that.
Yes he did...to the detriment of the game. Don't let the door the door hit ya...

Hopefully the new guy is more in the Gene Upshaw mold.
I think Bud Selig deserves a lot more blame about the steroid issue than Fehr. Fehr's job was to cover his players' asses. He did just that. The 'integrity of the game' falls on Selig's shoulders, and it's he who has dropped the ball and stuck his head in the sand.
 
iSnitch said:
Jeremy said:
iSnitch said:
Fehr's only job was to look out for the players. It's pretty clear he did an incredible job doing just that.
Yes he did...to the detriment of the game. Don't let the door the door hit ya...

Hopefully the new guy is more in the Gene Upshaw mold.
I think Bud Selig deserves a lot more blame about the steroid issue than Fehr. Fehr's job was to cover his players' asses. He did just that. The 'integrity of the game' falls on Selig's shoulders, and it's he who has dropped the ball and stuck his head in the sand.
I think on the steriod issue, he really did his players a disservice. He put them in a position were their choice was to cheat and risk their health, or compete at a disadvantage. He chose to represent the cheaters instead of the clean players. Which to me seems to suggest Ken Caminiti's estimates was probably pretty close to the truth. That's going to be a big stain on his legacy. Where he did such a wonderful job for his players was resisting the salary cap which allowed salaries to spiral out of control. This of course hurt competitive balance. Small market teams could no longer afford to keep their best players and were forced to play the game where they're constantly trading for prospects and cycling new players through the farm system. Billy Beane was very good at it. But it's not fun to become attached to players you know are only going to stay 4 or 5 years.

In the NFL where Gene Upshaw was basically a puppet for the owners, all 32 teams are relevant. Some haven't had success in decades, but all are considered worth talking about, because quick improvement is always possible. You don't have the whole league revolving around the Yankees and Red Sox and a few other clubs like they have in baseball.

I guess where sports is concerned, the weaker the players union, the better the league. But I can't blame Fehr for doing his job.

 
Jeremy said:
iSnitch said:
Jeremy said:
iSnitch said:
Fehr's only job was to look out for the players. It's pretty clear he did an incredible job doing just that.
Yes he did...to the detriment of the game. Don't let the door the door hit ya...

Hopefully the new guy is more in the Gene Upshaw mold.
I think Bud Selig deserves a lot more blame about the steroid issue than Fehr. Fehr's job was to cover his players' asses. He did just that. The 'integrity of the game' falls on Selig's shoulders, and it's he who has dropped the ball and stuck his head in the sand.
I think on the steriod issue, he really did his players a disservice. He put them in a position were their choice was to cheat and risk their health, or compete at a disadvantage. He chose to represent the cheaters instead of the clean players. Which to me seems to suggest Ken Caminiti's estimates was probably pretty close to the truth. That's going to be a big stain on his legacy. Where he did such a wonderful job for his players was resisting the salary cap which allowed salaries to spiral out of control. This of course hurt competitive balance. Small market teams could no longer afford to keep their best players and were forced to play the game where they're constantly trading for prospects and cycling new players through the farm system. Billy Beane was very good at it. But it's not fun to become attached to players you know are only going to stay 4 or 5 years.

In the NFL where Gene Upshaw was basically a puppet for the owners, all 32 teams are relevant. Some haven't had success in decades, but all are considered worth talking about, because quick improvement is always possible. You don't have the whole league revolving around the Yankees and Red Sox and a few other clubs like they have in baseball.

I guess where sports is concerned, the weaker the players union, the better the league. But I can't blame Fehr for doing his job.
:towelwave: And, to those who blame Selig for everything under the sun, let's not forget that Donald Fehr advised his clients to go on strike and wipe out the 1994 baseball season. Let's not forget that Donald Fehr advised his clients to prevent drug testing in the early 2000 years. But, Fehr did advise his clients in such a way that they enjoyed a 10-fold increase in salary during his reign. So, we can't complain at all about ticket prices when we take our families to the game. He just did his job and we should all frown on Selig for all of this.

That makes sense.

 
Baseball should be far and away the 2nd most popular sport in the U.S. and the reason it isn't is because of guys like Donald Fehr. I don't blame him for doing his job and getting more money for the players but he and Selig both knew of the steroid problem and both are culpable for the year we were robbed of a World Series (although Selig more so).

Baseball is mismanaged about as bad as the NHL IMO and it is sometimes sad. Oh and FWIW, he allegedly stepped down because of all these names being dropped from the 103 positive tests in 2003. The players are pretty mad about what is happening and it is reasoned that the Sammy Sosa incident was the last straw.

 
Jeremy said:
iSnitch said:
Jeremy said:
iSnitch said:
Fehr's only job was to look out for the players. It's pretty clear he did an incredible job doing just that.
Yes he did...to the detriment of the game. Don't let the door the door hit ya...

Hopefully the new guy is more in the Gene Upshaw mold.
I think Bud Selig deserves a lot more blame about the steroid issue than Fehr. Fehr's job was to cover his players' asses. He did just that. The 'integrity of the game' falls on Selig's shoulders, and it's he who has dropped the ball and stuck his head in the sand.
I think on the steriod issue, he really did his players a disservice. He put them in a position were their choice was to cheat and risk their health, or compete at a disadvantage. He chose to represent the cheaters instead of the clean players. Which to me seems to suggest Ken Caminiti's estimates was probably pretty close to the truth. That's going to be a big stain on his legacy. Where he did such a wonderful job for his players was resisting the salary cap which allowed salaries to spiral out of control. This of course hurt competitive balance. Small market teams could no longer afford to keep their best players and were forced to play the game where they're constantly trading for prospects and cycling new players through the farm system. Billy Beane was very good at it. But it's not fun to become attached to players you know are only going to stay 4 or 5 years.

In the NFL where Gene Upshaw was basically a puppet for the owners, all 32 teams are relevant. Some haven't had success in decades, but all are considered worth talking about, because quick improvement is always possible. You don't have the whole league revolving around the Yankees and Red Sox and a few other clubs like they have in baseball.

I guess where sports is concerned, the weaker the players union, the better the league. But I can't blame Fehr for doing his job.
:thumbup: And, to those who blame Selig for everything under the sun, let's not forget that Donald Fehr advised his clients to go on strike and wipe out the 1994 baseball season. Let's not forget that Donald Fehr advised his clients to prevent drug testing in the early 2000 years. But, Fehr did advise his clients in such a way that they enjoyed a 10-fold increase in salary during his reign. So, we can't complain at all about ticket prices when we take our families to the game. He just did his job and we should all frown on Selig for all of this.

That makes sense.
What? I'm not blaming Selig for everything. Fehr certainly did things that were not best for the game of baseball, but he damn sure did things that were best for his players. Nobody is ever going to be able to look out for every individual, but look at the salaries and how much they increased during his tenure. Maybe it would have gone up just the same with our without him, but it's pretty standard for the guy at the top to get more blame and credit than they deserve.

His players cheated? He covered for them. He got them more money. I'm not a big fan of the things he allowed but it's really hard to argue he didn't do a great job getting what he could for the players.

Btw, good post Jeremy.

 

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