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Can't wait for the
threads by all the Barber owners.In all seriousness, I still expect Barber to see a good number of carries, but he will be RB3 material, not a "steal" at all.
I dont see why everyone thinks the Cowboys will give the ball to the inferior runner more. Barber may start the games, and close out games they already have in the bag, but Jones will get the majority of the touches while the game is still close.
You are the last person anyone should listen to on this subject. Do you still think F Jones is better than CJ? He's closer to Julius Jones.
I disagree with this. If Barber is healthy he'll see 14-22 carries each week. Felix will see 8-16 carries each week. Throw in 2-6 more for Choice. If Barber were to get injured, I think we'd see 14-20 carries for Felix, and 10-16 carries for Choice. Dallas hasn't done anything to indicate that Felix would not be the starting RB if Barber were to get injured. Now I'm not saying he'll get 25+ carries, but to say that Choice is the handcuff IMO is inaccurate. Do you think that if Pierre Thomas were to get injured that Bush would still only rush 6-14 times a game and they'd give 25+ carries to someone else?
Yes, I believe they would still limit Bush's carries in NO if Thomas were to go down. I have not heard that from anyone in DAL or NO, but I would be very surprised to see Jones or Bush get "significant carries" (meaning consistently over 15/game) if injuries happened in front of them. I see Choice and Ivory or another between the tackles guy seeing a big uptick in that situation.
Right, because in the past when Jones was healthy and Barber wasn't, Choice really saw a ton of carries ... No.I love the polarizing effect players can have on people. It makes everything so much more entertaining.
: weak :You are the last person anyone should listen to on this subject. Do you still think F Jones is better than CJ? He's closer to Julius Jones.Can't wait for the
The offensive line isn't holding up. In order for Barber to get any goalline carries, Felix Jones is the one who has to make the long runs.
ah, it was one preseason game, relax. the line will get better.
lol..Yeah Barber is the best RB... Felix will get more touches then Barber every Sunday starting with this one.No comparison when it comes to talent between the two...Not even close
yes i agree thanks.the guy that puts up numbers vs the guy we are still talking about hype and potential 3 years later.
It was not one preseason game. Colombo went down during the first preseason game. The next four games Dallas used Barron and Brewster to patch up the right side. There were no running lanes at all. Witten had to stay in to block. Barber had to stay in to block. Romo barely had any time to throw. Felix Jones is gonna have to make some long runs to balance the running game with the passing game. This is the only chance Barber has to any goalline carries.thehornet said:
switz said:
it's all cool to me. I've got a number of ppl on ignore, mostly due to their inability to discuss a player without resorting to personal attacks. You won't miss much from me this year, not sure how frequently I'll be on here.However, if I'm right about Jones, are you going to remove the ignore? Somehow I doubt it Not to hijack, but Bush would certainly not receive limited carries of PT went down. Bush would certainly get 17+ touches a game, many would be designed swing passes which are essentially running plays.fdctrumpet said:
Columbo will practice this week and likely play on Sunday.
The 16 TDs he scored that season might have something to do with the love.At this rate Jones will match that total by 2013.
Weren't they trying to trade Choice just last week? Or was that just a rumor?fdctrumpet said:
Fantastic article, thanks.
The guy had 685 yards on just over 100 carries, in his 2nd year of action(30 carries in year 1). Give me Felix for the next 5 year all day over Barber.
You can have him if you've got the guts to start him.I rarely see him started in my leagues.The guy had 685 yards on just over 100 carries, in his 2nd year of action(30 carries in year 1). Give me Felix for the next 5 year all day over Barber.
I laughed at the clear omission of the high TD numbers by switz.The guy had 685 yards on just over 100 carries, in his 2nd year of action(30 carries in year 1). Give me Felix for the next 5 year all day over Barber.
I'll take Barber for this year at least and would strongly consider Choice over Jones for the next five years.The guy had 685 yards on just over 100 carries, in his 2nd year of action(30 carries in year 1). Give me Felix for the next 5 year all day over Barber.
TDs are erratic... hence Barber's 7 last year... And people weren't clamoring for him to take over from JJ because of his TDs, most knowledgeable people knew that the TDs were because he was the GL back. He was already getting basically all the DAL rushing TDs. They were clamoring for him to start because his YPC was much better than JJ's... and the thought was if he could continue racking up yards like that, and increased his opportunities, he'd be a top-5 FF RB... which never happened. His TDs have gone down, and he's still never been able to rush for 1,000 yards.nysportsfan said:
can't open the link (damn work filters), so what's the upshot? TIAFantastic article, thanks.
I really don't understand this...Can someone please explain to me - if Choice is SO MUCH BETTER - why does he barely touch the field when Barber and Jones are both healthy? Last year 50% his carries, and 60% of his receptions came when Barber and Jones were either both out, or both limited by injury. If he was the better option than either, they would play him. In the PHI playoff game, Choice was limited mostly to Razorback and short yardage until the 4th quarter, Jones was the lead back - in a PLAYOFF GAME. The next game, Choice saw 1 carry. In the playoffs Jones had more touches than Barber and Choice combined.Chaka said:
Of course the TDs had something to do with the love don't be disingenuous.Jones has never put up 1000 yards (combined even) and has done far less with his opportunities overall than Barber. And if he works real hard Jones should pass 7 career TDs from scrimmage (he has a return TD giving him a whopping 7 TDs total in two seasons) this year.I have no problem giving Jones props as an athlete and RB with huge upside but to date he has been all hype and no substance. I wish for once you would at least acknowledge that instead of just making excuses for it.
The logic is simple. Despite his age I don't trust Jones to remain durable enough in the NFL to ever have more than 1-2 good seasons before age and an accumulation of nagging injuries sap his tremendous athletic gifts rendering him just another RB.Choice doesn't have to be physically more gifted than Jones (few RBs even come close to Jones on paper) he has to be simply good enough and durable enough to withstand the rigors of playing RB in the NFL. I think he could easily outperform Jones for his career.
felix is an excellent guy to touch the ball 10 times or less per game. He just hasnt proven that he can do more and stay healthy. Choice and Barber are better NFL runnings backs because they do all of the little tihngs.
The writer says Choice doesn't get the playing time as a starter because he is invaluable on ST and 3rd down/2min drill situations.can't open the link (damn work filters), so what's the upshot? TIAFantastic article, thanks.
I'm pretty sure there is some substance to Jones' hype... like the playoff game in Philly.
Barber is the value play this year.
