Felix Jones (1 Viewer)

[kneeunthaface]

Yea, I know he'll get a share of touches. He didn't see the field until the second half today. He takes his first carry as a pro in for an 11 yd. score and breaks a few other long runs. How is this situation going to play out with him and Barber. Can/will his role be similar to Reggie Bush's in HIS rookie year?

 

[Steady Mooobin]

Felix Jones thread where this is discussed extensively.

 

[Moonlight]

Was Jones the back that got run over by a LB on Romo's INT?

Regardless Jones needs to show he can block to get playing team when the game is still in doubt.

 

[Deepster]

Yes. That was Jones. A 47 yr old Willie McGinest plowed through him like he wasn't there.

For the explosiveness he showed, he can't be back there regularly if he puts Romo in danger.

 

[Peyton Marino]

never heard of him.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

Felix Jones thread where this is discussed extensively.

 

[Raider Nation]

Not saying the kid's not explosive, but let's keep things in perspective a bit.

Those monsters up front were blowing open holes against the Brownies that Gilbert Brown would have danced through untouched.

 

[Andy Herron]

For one, I don't think things played out exactly the way the Cowboys had planned today to get him involved. They had packages for him, but with the way the offense was clicking it wasn't necessary to put those plays in. Why expose what you have until you need to?

With Felix getting those carries in the second half for a dinged up Barber (X-rays negative on his ribs), I think the Cowboys only grew more confident in his capabilities when needed to be called upon. Not only in his running, but he displayed a great amount of knowledge and ability in picking up blitz packages and the like as well. Yes, he missed the one on McGinnest, but he did some good things aside from that. He grew up some today, in more ways than one. Confidence is soaring in Dallas when it comes to Felix Jones.

 

[Katism]

He didn't impress me. If you saw how big the holes he ran through were, Barber would have had 3-4 TDs had he not bruised his ribs.

 

[Judge Smails]

For one, I don't think things played out exactly the way the Cowboys had planned today to get him involved. They had packages for him, but with the way the offense was clicking it wasn't necessary to put those plays in. Why expose what you have until you need to?With Felix getting those carries in the second half for a dinged up Barber (X-rays negative on his ribs), I think the Cowboys only grew more confident in his capabilities when needed to be called upon. Not only in his running, but he displayed a great amount of knowledge and ability in picking up blitz packages and the like as well. Yes, he missed the one on McGinnest, but he did some good things aside from that. He grew up some today, in more ways than one. Confidence is soaring in Dallas when it comes to Felix Jones.

My eyes don't lie. This kid is a special runner, and will get significant carries this year. My bet? We'll see a lot of 18 carry MBIII and 12 carry FJ days...

 

[kneeunthaface]

Sorry Frank--

I thought we'd revisit the topic since we now have seen this kid in REAL live regular seaon action. That ok with you or.............?

 

[BigJim®]

I thought he looked good. So did Tashard Choice. Good blocking by the Dallas OL.

 

[kneeunthaface]

I saw that choice was put in late. F. Jones didn't get hurt or anything did he? I was suprised that he didn't get those touches down the stretch with MBIII out.

 

[Andy Herron]

I saw that choice was put in late. F. Jones didn't get hurt or anything did he? I was suprised that he didn't get those touches down the stretch with MBIII out.

No, Felix is fine. They just wanted to get Choice some carries and save Felix. He'd done enough.

 

[brakeyawself]

So the consensus is its not time to panick on Barber? Honestly both Choice and Felix played well yesterday. The Dallas Oline looks outstanding. Based on talent level. Isnt it plausible that Felix and Choice are both as good as Barber in this offense? If not better based on natural talent level, runningstyle, and pedigree? Felix would have to improve his block granted, but a little nervous about Barber now.

 

[3C's]

I love Mondays.

 

[MaddHatter]

With the holes that were opened up for Felix Jones, anybody would be "too explosive not to play."

He has a great burst, speed, and doesn't hesitate to hit the pocket but I would like to see what he does against Philadelphia next week before I truly jump on this bandwagon. The Dallas o-line made the Cleveland front seven look like a high school team, especially later in the game.

Watch the re-run on NFLN and you will see that Jones didn't have to work hard at all for his yards, as went practically untouched on most carries, for the first 8 or 9 yards.

 

[Tong Po]

Felix had some big holes for sure... but he also made some nice runs. He looked especially good on his touchdown carry. He showed nice vision and hit the hole hard on that run. I think he's shiftier and quicker than Barber. But he can't hold a candle to Barber when it comes to pass protection and straight up bulling defenders over.

 

[FavreCo]

Felix Jones showed the world how bad Julius Jones is. On that TD run up the middle, there is no way in a million tries that Julius plows thru and drags 2-3 guys into the endzone.

Solid upgrade by the cowboys.

 

[BigJim®]

So the consensus is its not time to panick on Barber? Honestly both Choice and Felix played well yesterday. The Dallas Oline looks outstanding. Based on talent level. Isnt it plausible that Felix and Choice are both as good as Barber in this offense? If not better based on natural talent level, runningstyle, and pedigree? Felix would have to improve his block granted, but a little nervous about Barber now.

Yes, you should panic. I can't believe you are wasting time asking this question when you might have used that time to dump Barber and pick up Choice.

 

[Bankerguy]

So the consensus is its not time to panick on Barber? Honestly both Choice and Felix played well yesterday. The Dallas Oline looks outstanding. Based on talent level. Isnt it plausible that Felix and Choice are both as good as Barber in this offense? If not better based on natural talent level, runningstyle, and pedigree? Felix would have to improve his block granted, but a little nervous about Barber now.

Yes, you should panic. I can't believe you are wasting time asking this question when you might have used that time to dump Barber and pick up Choice.

Yup, lot's of over reacting and bad analysis here.

 

[switz]

I saw that choice was put in late. F. Jones didn't get hurt or anything did he? I was suprised that he didn't get those touches down the stretch with MBIII out.

No, Felix is fine. They just wanted to get Choice some carries and save Felix. He'd done enough.

If Barber misses significant time, they plan on Choice playing a larger role, so they needed to see him in game action. That's all.

 

[switz]

With the holes that were opened up for Felix Jones, anybody would be "too explosive not to play."He has a great burst, speed, and doesn't hesitate to hit the pocket but I would like to see what he does against Philadelphia next week before I truly jump on this bandwagon. The Dallas o-line made the Cleveland front seven look like a high school team, especially later in the game. Watch the re-run on NFLN and you will see that Jones didn't have to work hard at all for his yards, as went practically untouched on most carries, for the first 8 or 9 yards.

You mean like the guy who tried to arm tackle him at the line of scrimmage when he ran through it for 11 yards then plowed trough two guys for the TD? Yeah, I guess that's untouched.Man, people have such a hard time giving credit to players they were wrong about. Let me guess, Barber was breaking tackles left and right to get his yards

 

[switz]

So the consensus is its not time to panick on Barber? Honestly both Choice and Felix played well yesterday. The Dallas Oline looks outstanding. Based on talent level. Isnt it plausible that Felix and Choice are both as good as Barber in this offense? If not better based on natural talent level, runningstyle, and pedigree? Felix would have to improve his block granted, but a little nervous about Barber now.

The only reason you should be worried is if you drafted him early in the first. He's going to share time with a more explosive back in Felix, and another solid RB in Choice (though very little with Choice IMO)Bottom line, Barber will be about what he was last year, not too much more. He did have a great game even though he missed time... but he's not going to maintain that if he gets too many carries, so he's not going to get too many carries. The Cowboys aren't stupid. Barber has split time at every level... he's just not feature back material. But he's still going to finish as a top-10 RB probably. Don't panic. Just be realistic.

 

[Bankerguy]

So the consensus is its not time to panick on Barber? Honestly both Choice and Felix played well yesterday. The Dallas Oline looks outstanding. Based on talent level. Isnt it plausible that Felix and Choice are both as good as Barber in this offense? If not better based on natural talent level, runningstyle, and pedigree? Felix would have to improve his block granted, but a little nervous about Barber now.

The only reason you should be worried is if you drafted him early in the first. He's going to share time with a more explosive back in Felix, and another solid RB in Choice (though very little with Choice IMO)Bottom line, Barber will be about what he was last year, not too much more. He did have a great game even though he missed time... but he's not going to maintain that if he gets too many carries, so he's not going to get too many carries. The Cowboys aren't stupid. Barber has split time at every level... he's just not feature back material. But he's still going to finish as a top-10 RB probably. Don't panic. Just be realistic.

To everyone.....Whether or not you think Barber is the man, or Felix will get as many touches as JJ last year. The bottom line is that both backs are going to score a lot of points. I don't see much down side with either. Anyone making rash or quick judgements after the first game is silly....imo.

 

[Kuz]

So the consensus is its not time to panick on Barber? Honestly both Choice and Felix played well yesterday. The Dallas Oline looks outstanding. Based on talent level. Isnt it plausible that Felix and Choice are both as good as Barber in this offense? If not better based on natural talent level, runningstyle, and pedigree? Felix would have to improve his block granted, but a little nervous about Barber now.

The only reason you should be worried is if you drafted him early in the first. He's going to share time with a more explosive back in Felix, and another solid RB in Choice (though very little with Choice IMO)Bottom line, Barber will be about what he was last year, not too much more. He did have a great game even though he missed time... but he's not going to maintain that if he gets too many carries, so he's not going to get too many carries. The Cowboys aren't stupid. Barber has split time at every level... he's just not feature back material. But he's still going to finish as a top-10 RB probably. Don't panic. Just be realistic.

To everyone.....Whether or not you think Barber is the man, or Felix will get as many touches as JJ last year. The bottom line is that both backs are going to score a lot of points. I don't see much down side with either. Anyone making rash or quick judgements after the first game is silly....imo.

I would not mind having either of these guys this year. Barber will still be good & Jones will get his too..

 

[gcoast3]

He didn't impress me. If you saw how big the holes he ran through were, Barber would have had 3-4 TDs had he not bruised his ribs.

Sounds like a Barber owner to me.

 

[Otis]

He looked good, but so did Choice, and so would just about anyone who runs behind that Dallas O-line right now. It's incredibly good.

Barber still looks to be the best runner there and the only way he loses his job is if he's hurt and can't play (or if for some other reason he starts playing poorly).

/thread

 

[Manster]

So the consensus is its not time to panick on Barber? Honestly both Choice and Felix played well yesterday. The Dallas Oline looks outstanding. Based on talent level. Isnt it plausible that Felix and Choice are both as good as Barber in this offense? If not better based on natural talent level, runningstyle, and pedigree? Felix would have to improve his block granted, but a little nervous about Barber now.

wow

Felix Jones showed the world how bad Julius Jones is. On that TD run up the middle, there is no way in a million tries that Julius plows thru and drags 2-3 guys into the endzone. Solid upgrade by the cowboys.

a correct answer by the wise one with the grey hair.

So the consensus is its not time to panick on Barber? Honestly both Choice and Felix played well yesterday. The Dallas Oline looks outstanding. Based on talent level. Isnt it plausible that Felix and Choice are both as good as Barber in this offense? If not better based on natural talent level, runningstyle, and pedigree? Felix would have to improve his block granted, but a little nervous about Barber now.

Yes, you should panic. I can't believe you are wasting time asking this question when you might have used that time to dump Barber and pick up Choice.

 

[vffkl]

So the consensus is its not time to panick on Barber? Honestly both Choice and Felix played well yesterday. The Dallas Oline looks outstanding. Based on talent level. Isnt it plausible that Felix and Choice are both as good as Barber in this offense? If not better based on natural talent level, runningstyle, and pedigree? Felix would have to improve his block granted, but a little nervous about Barber now.

The only reason you should be worried is if you drafted him early in the first. He's going to share time with a more explosive back in Felix, and another solid RB in Choice (though very little with Choice IMO)Bottom line, Barber will be about what he was last year, not too much more. He did have a great game even though he missed time... but he's not going to maintain that if he gets too many carries, so he's not going to get too many carries. The Cowboys aren't stupid. Barber has split time at every level... he's just not feature back material. But he's still going to finish as a top-10 RB probably. Don't panic. Just be realistic.

I haven't seen anything that makes me think that Jones is the more explosive back. The only reason Jones got the carries he did was Barber got dinged and the Cowboys were up big. To me that is the biggest threat to Barber in that the Cowboys get big leads and they rest their starter. Granted they wont being playing the Browns every week. Any one of the Cowboys RB's would have scored on Jones 11 yard TD run Clevelands D at that point was wipped. It is a big difference between getting yards on a fresh D in the first and 2nd quarter vs racking up yards on a beaten and fatigued D in the late 3rd and 4th quarters. Also Jones is going to be limited by the fact he is a rookie and as we saw yesterday he needs to block well to spend any serious time on field.

 

[switz]

I haven't seen anything that makes me think that Jones is the more explosive back.

Ummm... didn't see the game yesterday? Preseason? 6.9 YPC versus 4.x???

The only reason Jones got the carries he did was Barber got dinged and the Cowboys were up big.

No, they had planned on bringing him in during the second half anyway. Do you really think Barber would still have been in there if the game was close?

Any one of the Cowboys RB's would have scored on Jones 11 yard TD run Clevelands D at that point was wipped.

You say that, but Jones is the one that did. And if it was a slower RB, they probably would not have scored.

It is a big difference between getting yards on a fresh D in the first and 2nd quarter vs racking up yards on a beaten and fatigued D in the late 3rd and 4th quarters.

Yes, people have been saying that about why Barber has been so good the last few years... because Jones was wearing the defense down. Let me guess, you didn't agree with that argument, but you are going to use it against Jones. You know... for Jones to be good doesn't mean Barber has to bad, and vice versa. Both can be good.

 

[FavreCo]

He looked good, but so did Choice, and so would just about anyone who runs behind that Dallas O-line right now. It's incredibly good.

Barber still looks to be the best runner there and the only way he loses his job is if he's hurt and can't play (or if for some other reason he starts playing poorly).

/thread

Speaks volumes to the suckage that is Julius Jones. He couldn't get it done with that OL.

 

[Bl Deep]

He looked good, but so did Choice, and so would just about anyone who runs behind that Dallas O-line right now. It's incredibly good.

Barber still looks to be the best runner there and the only way he loses his job is if he's hurt and can't play (or if for some other reason he starts playing poorly).

/thread

Speaks volumes to the suckage that is Julius Jones. He couldn't get it done with that OL.

Dude couldn't beat out MoMo.... nuff said.

 

[switz]

He looked good, but so did Choice, and so would just about anyone who runs behind that Dallas O-line right now. It's incredibly good.

Barber still looks to be the best runner there and the only way he loses his job is if he's hurt and can't play (or if for some other reason he starts playing poorly).

/thread

Speaks volumes to the suckage that is Julius Jones. He couldn't get it done with that OL.

Dude couldn't beat out MoMo.... nuff said.

MoMo yesterday, 5YPC, JJ 3.x I think... Julius SUCKED

 

[Mustang Man]

I have not looked through the thread to see if this was mentioned but I see this as the opposite of last year the way Dallas will be using the rb position. Last season it was J.Jones the speed back early and then use the bruising rb Barber to beat up the defense in the second half more. This year it is beat the defenses up early with Barber and then they have to deal with the speed of FELIX and he will have some long runs for sure this year. He could approach 5.5 to 6 yards per carry in this situation. I realize Barber got hurt and then thats when Felix came in but the writing is on the wall that Dallas will use Felix in this type fashion this year. Felix will tear up some defenses this year. Rashard WHO!!!

 

[Tyrion]

Felix looked great except for the play that was mentioned where Willie blew him up on his way to the QB. Willie has been doing that for years so I won't get too worried about one play. That being said, I have to say that Barber looked better than I have every seen him. He looked like superman out there. I wonder how much the ribs will affect his playing style.

 

[switz]

Felix looked great except for the play that was mentioned where Willie blew him up on his way to the QB. Willie has been doing that for years so I won't get too worried about one play. That being said, I have to say that Barber looked better than I have every seen him. He looked like superman out there. I wonder how much the ribs will affect his playing style.

Maybe he feels a little threatened after watching Felix in camp....

 

[Johnny Ice]

Felix looked great except for the play that was mentioned where Willie blew him up on his way to the QB. Willie has been doing that for years so I won't get too worried about one play. That being said, I have to say that Barber looked better than I have every seen him. He looked like superman out there. I wonder how much the ribs will affect his playing style.

None. Barber is an animal, he is quickly becoming one of my favorite players to watch in the league. He is just a tough nosed football player, plain and simple.

 

[vffkl]

I guess he wasn't explosive enough.

He will see the field when its a blow out or Barber is injuried. Otherwise limited number of touches

He haad a nice kick return for a TD.

 

[Vykng]

Felix would be GOLD if Barber were to be injured. Hopefully he doesn't and I'm not a Barber owner.

 

[packersfan]

I guess he wasn't explosive enough.He will see the field when its a blow out or Barber is injuried. Otherwise limited number of touchesHe haad a nice kick return for a TD.

Yup. Felix is a great talent but Barber is one of the premier RBs in the game. The Cowboys will use Jones to keep Barber fresh but the running game is all about Barber and as we saw tonight he's deadly in the passing game as well.

 

[cws3030]

i think once the 2nd half of the season rolls around he will be used much more to throw a wrinkle into the offense since no one will be able to game plan for him. just my

 

[bentley]

I guess he wasn't explosive enough.

He will see the field when its a blow out or Barber is injuried. Otherwise limited number of touches

He haad a nice kick return for a TD.

This is pretty good evidence that this is a fantasy football board. He was a monster on kick returns today and did a pretty good job as a change of pace back. I can't imagine Dallas is going to sacrifice that.

 

[bcover27]

I guess he wasn't explosive enough.

He will see the field when its a blow out or Barber is injuried. Otherwise limited number of touches

He haad a nice kick return for a TD.

This is pretty good evidence that this is a fantasy football board. He was a monster on kick returns today and did a pretty good job as a change of pace back. I can't imagine Dallas is going to sacrifice that.

Agreed. Worth noting, if they keep him at KR, which they obviously should after seeing what he did tonight, it could *possibly* limit his touches at RB.After a long KR he most likely won't be in the huddle the next play for the offensive series. I think that is why he wasn't back there to receive the kick one, because he was going to be featured heavily during that offensive series. After the other returner almost lost the ball I think we'll see Felix back taking kickoffs almost exclusively.