Fellow Commissioners, would you do this (1 Viewer)

[KellysHeroes]

Our League is 14 teams in our 2nd year, 6 teams go into the playoffs and the rest did nothing.

After week 13, our regular season was over, but the commish placed a poll asking if the league wanting an extra $5 charge to the fees for a Toliet Bowl. I voted no and wrote to him that when it comes to requesting more money... it should be 100% agreement.

The Vote Ended w/ 67% wanted the toliet bowl (looking at the Voting Log.. it appears the Commish voted twice which to me is very shaddy; I can't see which way he voted but I would suppect he voted twice for yes// must be an RTSports thing).

Now, I like this guy; and I won't think of starting trouble with the league over this; I haven't written anything in the league message board about it and I told the Commish to just take the $5 out of my winnings... I get along with the guy, and more importantly I really like my team there <_< .

The money hes requesting is for next years Toliet Bowl as hes paying this years toliet bowl out of his pocket.

I'm just asking other Commissioners if they would charge more money to an already expensive league without 100% of the league's agreement; Because I wouldn't do it.

 

[rzrback77]

Both of my dynasty leagues do this and it is a great idea! It keeps all the teams involved down near the end of the year.

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and I am in the TB finals this week in one and hope to snatch $75 from the doom of failure!

 

[theplayer11]

stupid...but this is how our society is turning...sure,"spread the wealth" to those that don't deserve it.

 

[rzrback77]

Our League is 14 teams in our 2nd year, 6 teams go into the playoffs and the rest did nothing.

After week 13, our regular season was over, but the commish placed a poll asking if the league wanting an extra $5 charge to the fees for a Toliet Bowl. I voted no and wrote to him that when it comes to requesting more money... it should be 100% agreement.

The Vote Ended w/ 67% wanted the toliet bowl (looking at the Voting Log.. it appears the Commish voted twice which to me is very shaddy; I can't see which way he voted but I would suppect he voted twice for yes// must be an RTSports thing).

Now, I like this guy; and I won't think of starting trouble with the league over this; I haven't written anything in the league message board about it and I told the Commish to just take the $5 out of my winnings... I get along with the guy, and more importantly I really like my team there .

The money hes requesting is for next years Toliet Bowl as hes paying this years toliet bowl out of his pocket.

I'm just asking other Commissioners if they would charge more money to an already expensive league without 100% of the league's agreement; Because I wouldn't do it.

Do any of your league members swim in the pool?

 

[videoguy505]

The money hes requesting is for next years Toliet Bowl as hes paying this years toliet bowl out of his pocket.

Nothing to complain about then. If you don't like any of next year's rules, feel free not to play.

 

[roadkill1292]

Simple majority rule required for every change in our league. Everybody knows the deal. Losers in a close vote always ##### a little but that's life.

And we just started assessing Toilet Bowl teams an extra $10 this year.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I'm sorry but you're talking about 5 bones?! And it's for next year? ...and the guy pitched in out of his own pocket for this year...and he's doing all the work? And a democratic vote wasn't good enough? That is hilarious.

And you think that YOUR 5 bucks for NEXT year is so important that you might make a stink about it?

You either:

A.) Can't afford to be in the league. Okay, then find another one.

or

B.) Are under 12 years of age.

or

C.) Are a complete D-bag.

My guess is "C.", as evidenced by comments like, "I get along with the guy, and more importantly I really like my team there. "

 

[theplayer11]

I'm sorry but you're talking about 5 bones?! And it's for next year? ...and the guy pitched in out of his own pocket for this year...and he's doing all the work? And a democratic vote wasn't good enough? That is hilarious.

And you think that YOUR 5 bucks for NEXT year is so important that you might make a stink about it?

You either:

A.) Can't afford to be in the league. Okay, then find another one.

or

B.) Are under 12 years of age.

or

C.) Are a complete D-bag.

My guess is "C.", as evidenced by comments like, "I get along with the guy, and more importantly I really like my team there. "

or E) He doesn't think failure should be rewarded. I doubt it's the $5

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I'm sorry but you're talking about 5 bones?! And it's for next year? ...and the guy pitched in out of his own pocket for this year...and he's doing all the work? And a democratic vote wasn't good enough? That is hilarious.

And you think that YOUR 5 bucks for NEXT year is so important that you might make a stink about it?

You either:

A.) Can't afford to be in the league. Okay, then find another one.

or

B.) Are under 12 years of age.

or

C.) Are a complete D-bag.

My guess is "C.", as evidenced by comments like, "I get along with the guy, and more importantly I really like my team there. "

or E) He doesn't think failure should be rewarded. I doubt it's the $5

Even f'n funnier! It's fantasy football, not med school, kids.

 

[theplayer11]

I'm sorry but you're talking about 5 bones?! And it's for next year? ...and the guy pitched in out of his own pocket for this year...and he's doing all the work? And a democratic vote wasn't good enough? That is hilarious.

And you think that YOUR 5 bucks for NEXT year is so important that you might make a stink about it?

You either:

A.) Can't afford to be in the league. Okay, then find another one.

or

B.) Are under 12 years of age.

or

C.) Are a complete D-bag.

My guess is "C.", as evidenced by comments like, "I get along with the guy, and more importantly I really like my team there. "

or E) He doesn't think failure should be rewarded. I doubt it's the $5

Even f'n funnier! It's fantasy football, not med school, kids.

it's stupid..heck, why not just split the money evenly...better yet, just play for fun

 

[allnight33]

Both of my dynasty leagues do this and it is a great idea! It keeps all the teams involved down near the end of the year..........and I am in the TB finals this week in one and hope to snatch $75 from the doom of failure!

So when do the "top" bottom teams start turning their attitude toward complete failure to hopefully redeem their reward!?!

 

[ClownDogs]

Already expensive league? And you are complaining about an extra $5?

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Already expensive league? And you are complaining about an extra $5?

I know, it's great.What's more, he brought his two buddies, to defend him ---> theplayer11, and allnight33 Guaranteed they were the dissenting votes, this little pack. I mean, who votes against that? The commish sounds cool as ####. Even puts up his own dough, and just wants to give some others a few more weeks of entertainment.Then, you've got this rat-pack who can't afford 5 bucks and thinks it's World War IV. This is too much.

 

[theplayer11]

Already expensive league? And you are complaining about an extra $5?

I know, it's great.What's more, he brought his two buddies, to defend him ---> theplayer11, and allnight33 Guaranteed they were the dissenting votes, this little pack. I mean, who votes against that? The commish sounds cool as ####. Even puts up his own dough, and just wants to give some others a few more weeks of entertainment.Then, you've got this rat-pack who can't afford 5 bucks and thinks it's World War IV. This is too much.

paranoid much? just stating my opinion....that's what message boards are all about. Of course, your opinion should be the only one...right? Toilet Bowl?...LMAO

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Almost time for bed, kiddos!

 

[Road Warriors]

We had a Toilet bowl for a while in my 12 team league, one buy-in prize, winner take all. The league overall didn't like the payout distribution, so we reworked it and removed a monetary payout for the Toilet Bowl. We now have moved to reward the TB winner with top pick in the following year draft.

Turns out that isn't enough of an incentive to keep owners that are out of the running for teh playoffs interested and active.

I understand the point of view that "doesn't want to reward failure", but as commissioner of the league, I want to have the right balance between compensating success and keeping ALL owners active and engaged. If culling 8% of the total prize pool as an incentive is what it takes to have the 2-10 team making waiver moves in week 13 in order to try to prep for the toilet bowl, I'm all for it.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Toilet Bowls

Encourage teams to not ruin the competitiveness of the league,

by flushing startable players to the waiver.

Your commish seems to be moving in the right direction.

I understand your concern that this makes your league more expensive.

$5 is no big deal, but you could let your commish know you would like to avoid future increases so you won't be priced out of the league. If you are, then the other guys don't want to play in the kind of league you do.

No worries, there are other leagues. I'm in too many.

Good luck with the vote for the weekly winner addition. Then there is total points and Division winners and runner ups... JK

 

[thayman]

Our League is 14 teams in our 2nd year, 6 teams go into the playoffs and the rest did nothing.After week 13, our regular season was over, but the commish placed a poll asking if the league wanting an extra $5 charge to the fees for a Toliet Bowl. I voted no and wrote to him that when it comes to requesting more money... it should be 100% agreement. The Vote Ended w/ 67% wanted the toliet bowl (looking at the Voting Log.. it appears the Commish voted twice which to me is very shaddy; I can't see which way he voted but I would suppect he voted twice for yes// must be an RTSports thing).Now, I like this guy; and I won't think of starting trouble with the league over this; I haven't written anything in the league message board about it and I told the Commish to just take the $5 out of my winnings... I get along with the guy, and more importantly I really like my team there :X .The money hes requesting is for next years Toliet Bowl as hes paying this years toliet bowl out of his pocket.I'm just asking other Commissioners if they would charge more money to an already expensive league without 100% of the league's agreement; Because I wouldn't do it.

You say you like the league, so ask your self if you think $5 is really worth it. The $$ is so small it's not really worth you getting upset about, although I do agree with you being upset in principle if the commish voted twice, that's something you should keep an eye on in the future.

 

[Varmint]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

 

[comfortably numb]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

Your league rewards $360, to runner up.Why reward any team that fails to win the championship?

 

[comfortably numb]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

I'm sorry, been up since 4AM and can't fall back asleep... but you seem to be the commish of the league in your Signature, and your rules have a toilet bowl prize as well. :X

POST SEASON POINTS CHALLENGE

Don't forget, even though your team may not be in the playoffs, you need to continue submintting a lineup.

After the championship game, the team with the most starter points (Champion NOT eligible) during Week 14-16 will receive an additional $5 added to their 2009 salary cap.

Believe me...it comes in real handy!

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

I'm sorry, been up since 4AM and can't fall back asleep... but you seem to be the commish of the league in your Signature, and your rules have a toilet bowl prize as well.

POST SEASON POINTS CHALLENGE

Don't forget, even though your team may not be in the playoffs, you need to continue submintting a lineup.

After the championship game, the team with the most starter points (Champion NOT eligible) during Week 14-16 will receive an additional $5 added to their 2009 salary cap.

Believe me...it comes in real handy!

 

[Capella]

Failure

 

[rzrback77]

Both of my dynasty leagues do this and it is a great idea! It keeps all the teams involved down near the end of the year..........and I am in the TB finals this week in one and hope to snatch $75 from the doom of failure!

So when do the "top" bottom teams start turning their attitude toward complete failure to hopefully redeem their reward!?!

Its Dynasty and all owners are always trying to improve thier team. I started 0-5, but turned it around some and have been scoring well down the stretch. As far as I know, all teams are still looking to improve for next year and the winner take all $75 for the six out of 14 that don't make the playoffs just livens it up for the non-playoof teams. All playoff teams get $50, butt only one of the bottom six get anything.I really like the rule whether I made the playoffs or not.

 

[theplayer11]

Both of my dynasty leagues do this and it is a great idea! It keeps all the teams involved down near the end of the year.......and I am in the TB finals this week in one and hope to snatch $75 from the doom of failure!

So when do the "top" bottom teams start turning their attitude toward complete failure to hopefully redeem their reward!?!

Its Dynasty and all owners are always trying to improve thier team. I started 0-5, but turned it around some and have been scoring well down the stretch. As far as I know, all teams are still looking to improve for next year and the winner take all $75 for the six out of 14 that don't make the playoffs just livens it up for the non-playoof teams. All playoff teams get $50, butt only one of the bottom six get anything.I really like the rule whether I made the playoffs or not.

"All playoff teams get $50, butt only one of the bottom six get anything.".and why should they? I can't believe how our society is changing so rapidly right before my eyes....sure, reward failure. "Only one of the bottom six get anything" amazing....and in redrafts, what would stop the bottom 3 or 4 teams tanking it to try to get in the money "toilet bowl" game? This would be the exact opposite effect that those who are arguing for it want......

 

[KellysHeroes]

I think most is missing my point; I'm not complaining.

I like the league, its a really good group of owners; I like the guy running it.. we exchange email or message board post a lot especially during this playoff season. Hell, I don't even mind the toliet bowl idea; however.. I don't need a toliet bowl to keep me from making waiver wire moves from leagues that I'm out of it. Especially during this time of year when teams are giving younger talent a chance to play with the ball. If your a dynasty owner and your not keeping an eye on the younger talent during this time of year; then its your lose.

The thing that bothered me a little was adding the $5 charge w/ out everyone's agreement. It kind of like when your UI bill sends you a notice that its raising its rate by 1%. When it comes to adding money onto fees, I think it should be atleast 75% agreed.. if not 100%.

 

[kolejo]

My league rides so little on the playoffs that it's not a big deal. Our Superbowl is only worth $50 and it progressively goes down to $5 for 7th place to the winner of the toilet bowl. Majority of the winnings are made through wins, high scores and high players throughout the year. Regular season wins being worth $16 each with High scores (1st high $12, 2nd high $6) High positions $5 each per week (QB,RB,WR, TE, K, Def) and then the Playoff wins are worth $20, $20 and $50 if you win the Super Bowl, 2nd place gets $25, 3rd $20 and so on so forth to 7th place getting $5. High scores and players of the year get the waiver pool money at the end of the year for High Cumulative score, 1st and 2nd high game score for the year and each high position.

 

[videoguy505]

The thing that bothered me a little was adding the $5 charge w/ out everyone's agreement.

When you submit your dues for next season, you're agreeing to any change.

 

[KellysHeroes]

The thing that bothered me a little was adding the $5 charge w/ out everyone's agreement.

When you submit your dues for next season, you're agreeing to any change.

Thats not True, I'm paid up a year in advance since I traded my draft pick away... so I paid next year Fees when the rules didn't change.

 

[Varmint]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

Your league rewards $360, to runner up.Why reward any team that fails to win the championship?

Well..if you call making it to the championsip game in a 14 team league a "failure" ...then you are right.The runner-up isn't rewarded for losing the championship game, he's rewarded for winning his conference. It's just paid after the championship game.I could have just as easily awarded $360 to each participant in the championship game then an additional $720 to the winner.....its all the same, Chuckles...

 

[Varmint]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

I'm sorry, been up since 4AM and can't fall back asleep... but you seem to be the commish of the league in your Signature, and your rules have a toilet bowl prize as well.

POST SEASON POINTS CHALLENGE

Don't forget, even though your team may not be in the playoffs, you need to continue submintting a lineup.

After the championship game, the team with the most starter points (Champion NOT eligible) during Week 14-16 will receive an additional $5 added to their 2009 salary cap.

Believe me...it comes in real handy!

The $5 added to the salary cap isn't a reward for failure. Its awarded to the team who racks up the most post-season points during weeks 14-16.

Its a post-season competition that keeps teams from wanting to lose a game in order to win some sort of silly-### "toilet bowl" award.

By the time this starts, the only thing the participants are playing for is the additional $5 and they aren't rewarded for failing.

 

[comfortably numb]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

I'm sorry, been up since 4AM and can't fall back asleep... but you seem to be the commish of the league in your Signature, and your rules have a toilet bowl prize as well.

POST SEASON POINTS CHALLENGE

Don't forget, even though your team may not be in the playoffs, you need to continue submintting a lineup.

After the championship game, the team with the most starter points (Champion NOT eligible) during Week 14-16 will receive an additional $5 added to their 2009 salary cap.

Believe me...it comes in real handy!

The $5 added to the salary cap isn't a reward for failure. Its awarded to the team who racks up the most post-season points during weeks 14-16.

Its a post-season competition that keeps teams from wanting to lose a game in order to win some sort of silly-### "toilet bowl" award.

By the time this starts, the only thing the participants are playing for is the additional $5 and they aren't rewarded for failing.

Do you know how most toilet bowls run?I mean you realize the WORST team does not win the toilet bowl, right?

It is essentially what you run, and you reward a team with an advantage for the following season, while most Toilet bowls are just a side competition for those who did not make the playoffs solely for money. (In some cases draft picks) but mostly money.

My current leagues do not have one, but have played in leagues with them.

Just always thought it was a extra way of having fun.

 

[Varmint]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

I'm sorry, been up since 4AM and can't fall back asleep... but you seem to be the commish of the league in your Signature, and your rules have a toilet bowl prize as well.

POST SEASON POINTS CHALLENGE

Don't forget, even though your team may not be in the playoffs, you need to continue submintting a lineup.

After the championship game, the team with the most starter points (Champion NOT eligible) during Week 14-16 will receive an additional $5 added to their 2009 salary cap.

Believe me...it comes in real handy!

The $5 added to the salary cap isn't a reward for failure. Its awarded to the team who racks up the most post-season points during weeks 14-16.

Its a post-season competition that keeps teams from wanting to lose a game in order to win some sort of silly-### "toilet bowl" award.

By the time this starts, the only thing the participants are playing for is the additional $5 and they aren't rewarded for failing.

Do you know how most toilet bowls run?I mean you realize the WORST team does not win the toilet bowl, right?

It is essentially what you run, and you reward a team with an advantage for the following season, while most Toilet bowls are just a side competition for those who did not make the playoffs solely for money. (In some cases draft picks) but mostly money.

My current leagues do not have one, but have played in leagues with them.

Just always thought it was a extra way of having fun.

A consolation game for two teams that suck?

 

[comfortably numb]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

I'm sorry, been up since 4AM and can't fall back asleep... but you seem to be the commish of the league in your Signature, and your rules have a toilet bowl prize as well.

POST SEASON POINTS CHALLENGE

Don't forget, even though your team may not be in the playoffs, you need to continue submintting a lineup.

After the championship game, the team with the most starter points (Champion NOT eligible) during Week 14-16 will receive an additional $5 added to their 2009 salary cap.

Believe me...it comes in real handy!

The $5 added to the salary cap isn't a reward for failure. Its awarded to the team who racks up the most post-season points during weeks 14-16.

Its a post-season competition that keeps teams from wanting to lose a game in order to win some sort of silly-### "toilet bowl" award.

By the time this starts, the only thing the participants are playing for is the additional $5 and they aren't rewarded for failing.

Do you know how most toilet bowls run?I mean you realize the WORST team does not win the toilet bowl, right?

It is essentially what you run, and you reward a team with an advantage for the following season, while most Toilet bowls are just a side competition for those who did not make the playoffs solely for money. (In some cases draft picks) but mostly money.

My current leagues do not have one, but have played in leagues with them.

Just always thought it was a extra way of having fun.

A consolation game for two teams that suck?

Yea, your right, completely different from what your league has.

 

[ravnzfan]

Both of my dynasty leagues do this and it is a great idea! It keeps all the teams involved down near the end of the year.

.

.

.

.

.

.

and I am in the TB finals this week in one and hope to snatch $75 from the doom of failure!

So when do the "top" bottom teams start turning their attitude toward complete failure to hopefully redeem their reward!?!

Its Dynasty and all owners are always trying to improve thier team. I started 0-5, but turned it around some and have been scoring well down the stretch. As far as I know, all teams are still looking to improve for next year and the winner take all $75 for the six out of 14 that don't make the playoffs just livens it up for the non-playoof teams. All playoff teams get $50, butt only one of the bottom six get anything.I really like the rule whether I made the playoffs or not.

"All playoff teams get $50, butt only one of the bottom six get anything."

.and why should they? I can't believe how our society is changing so rapidly right before my eyes....sure, reward failure.

"Only one of the bottom six get anything" amazing..

..and in redrafts, what would stop the bottom 3 or 4 teams tanking it to try to get in the money "toilet bowl" game? This would be the exact opposite effect that those who are arguing for it want...

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but we aren't talking redraft, dummy...we're talking dynasty leagues--my dynasty leagues as a matter of factthe extra $5 allows those guys to continue having alittle fun while the 8 playoff teams are still alive---it keep owners "out if it" more active and w/something to play for even if the playoffs are outta reach this season, and helps keep squads together that might otherwise get disbanded

and as fas as th OP wanting to see more than 67% vote for a rule change---you'll never see 75-100% aggreement on anything when it comes to FF owners....2/3 is more than a fair representation

 

[Varmint]

Leagues should not reward for failure.

I'm sorry, been up since 4AM and can't fall back asleep... but you seem to be the commish of the league in your Signature, and your rules have a toilet bowl prize as well.

POST SEASON POINTS CHALLENGE

Don't forget, even though your team may not be in the playoffs, you need to continue submintting a lineup.

After the championship game, the team with the most starter points (Champion NOT eligible) during Week 14-16 will receive an additional $5 added to their 2009 salary cap.

Believe me...it comes in real handy!

The $5 added to the salary cap isn't a reward for failure. Its awarded to the team who racks up the most post-season points during weeks 14-16.

Its a post-season competition that keeps teams from wanting to lose a game in order to win some sort of silly-### "toilet bowl" award.

By the time this starts, the only thing the participants are playing for is the additional $5 and they aren't rewarded for failing.

Do you know how most toilet bowls run?I mean you realize the WORST team does not win the toilet bowl, right?

It is essentially what you run, and you reward a team with an advantage for the following season, while most Toilet bowls are just a side competition for those who did not make the playoffs solely for money. (In some cases draft picks) but mostly money.

My current leagues do not have one, but have played in leagues with them.

Just always thought it was a extra way of having fun.

A consolation game for two teams that suck?

Yea, your right, completely different from what your league has.

Glad you finally see it.It just takes longer for some to grasp the obvious.

We have no games scheduled other than those playing for the championship.

There are no games for third palce...toilet bowl...or any kind of consoloation

The Post-Seaon Points Challenge is open to ALL members of the league...from top to bottom....your team doesn't have to suck to participate (unlike a Toilet Bowl matchup)

Those teams competing for the extra $5 added to their salay cap don't play anyone...they simply submit a lineup.

....no weekly winner...no weekly loser.

It simply gives EVERYONE a reason to hang around once they've been eliminated from the playoffs.

 

[WeaponX]

I think its a great idea. The league that I am in is 32 teams. 8 teams in 4 divisions. Three teams from each division make the playoffs so after week 12 you have 20 teams that have nothing to play for.

My league pays out $100 to the highest scoring team from weeks 13-16. It keeps everybody interested until the last week and gives you something to play for or to at least break even with the league fee.

 

[Sinrman]

If all non-playoff teams are in, I say why not? Gives them a LITTLE incentive to pay attention after week 13. The better you did during the regular season, the higher your seed in the Toilet Bowl Playoffs. Keeps people from throwing games, and gives them a little bit of a chance to win some of their $$ back...