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Fight Every Culture War Worth Fighting (1 Viewer)

rockaction

rockaction

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Or you’ll wind up sitting in the lobby listening to something being pumped in called Teen Beats, which is as ****ty a channel as you’re probably picturing. And then they’ll make you list your own pronouns in your bio whether you want to or not.

Fight on, curmudgeons. Fight the good fight! It’s being fought whether you drop out and ignore it or not. Might as well

Stand up!
Stand up!
Stand up!

And be counted!
 
rockaction said:
otb_lifer said:
consider me Longshanks in this endeavor 🗡

IN.
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I will count you as “in!”
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it's rough, buddy ... what with a 17 yr old daughter at home n' all.

Tiger Beat were huge back a ways ... lotta David Cassidy & Bobby Sherman & (pre refurb) MJ, etc

the girls all loved that stuff, and were actually "ok" being called girls 99.3% of the time - though the nuns clamped 'em tight ... we talkin' single digit ages here, circa them stone ages.

what can a poor boy do?
 
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rockaction said:
otb_lifer said:
rockaction said:
Consider yourself cafe au laid
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now that's nailing a nasty Uncle Charlie six ways to silly

:lol:
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Hanger. You a Yankees or Mets or Brooklyn or old NY Giants fan?
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more like circa '85 Doc, dropping off the table!

Yankees for life - Joe D made sure they were as much a religion to the pops as Catholicism were ... i don't follow, really haven't since the Donnie Baseball era, but i dabble when it moves me.

last visit to the big ball orchard in the Bronx were '93 ... so there ya go - haven't seen the new cathedral yet.
 
otb_lifer said:
more like circa '85 Doc, dropping off the table!
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Exactly the guy and exactly the year I think of. They called his curveball "Lord Charles" IIRC. Not just your Uncle Charlie. That was the year the Cardinals won the pennant and lost to the Royals. The Mets, I thought, had the better club for a short series, but the Cardinals had all the jackrabbit speed in the outfield you could hope for. Vince Coleman led that bunch. I forget the other guys who might have even been better than Vince.

Doc Gooden, in his prime, had the best 12-6 curveball I have ever seen. Pedro's was maybe better, but his was more 2-8, if you know what I mean.
 
rockaction said:
otb_lifer said:
more like circa '85 Doc, dropping off the table!
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That was the year the Cardinals won the pennant and lost to Don Dierkinger.
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fixed.


i was a fan of that squad, actually - rooted hard as hell against them in '82, as i were a "Harvey's Wallbangers" honk, and i just couldn't fathom a team batting Ben Ogilvie & Gorman Thomas so low in the ordee (7th & 8th sometimes) could lose to that astro turf NL bunch.

but i then came around to like Oberkfell & Clark & Willie "ET" Mcgee ... and hated the Royals, as per their storied pennant rivalries (not to mention the pine tar fiasco on my mom's 50th birthday) with the Yankees.

hated the Muttsies. always.

eff Ed Kranepool.
 
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rockaction said:
Or you’ll wind up sitting in the lobby listening to something being pumped in called Teen Beats, which is as ****ty a channel as you’re probably picturing. And then they’ll make you list your own pronouns in your bio whether you want to or not.

Fight on, curmudgeons. Fight the good fight! It’s being fought whether you drop out and ignore it or not. Might as well

Stand up!
Stand up!
Stand up!

And be counted!
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I have no idea what you are talking about and probably should be very happy about that.
 
The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you're already dead. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function: without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. All war depends upon it.

I fight no battle unless I accept the fact that I will die on the hill. Very few hills in culture wars are worth dying on.
 
BassNBrew said:
rockaction said:
Or you’ll wind up sitting in the lobby listening to something being pumped in called Teen Beats, which is as ****ty a channel as you’re probably picturing. And then they’ll make you list your own pronouns in your bio whether you want to or not.

Fight on, curmudgeons. Fight the good fight! It’s being fought whether you drop out and ignore it or not. Might as well

Stand up!
Stand up!
Stand up!

And be counted!
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I have no idea what you are talking about and probably should be very happy about that.
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Old guy no like young guy music.

Old guy make many thread on internet message forum technology to show young punk who boss is.
 
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McBokonon said:
That was taxing. I wonder what next atrocity the historically underrepresented will impose on me.
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Up against a wall, mother****er.

Do it or your job, mother****er.

Just got through listening to a very tolerant friend explain how this was happening at UT Austin and how he was confused.

Do it, mother****er!!

This is what it means!

Bake me a dildo cake, mother****er! This is freedom! Do it or your job!

Ever sit and wonder why normal folks voted a complete vile piece of scum into office?

There you have it.
 
FreeBaGeL said:
Old guy no like young guy music.

Old guy make many thread on internet message forum technology to show young punk who boss is.
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****ing toolbags, unite. You have nothing to lose but your cream cheese!

Up against a wall at your university speech, mother****er. "Can't you see you're protecting the historically privileged!" they whined to the cops.

Up against a ****ing wall!
 
Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake, baker's man, Bake me a cake, as fast as you can; Pat it, prick it, and mark it with B, Put it in the oven for baby and me.
 
Or work is honorable
Art is but a job
Yet we spend our paycheck on a beer
No heroes
No leaders
No artists
No God

I'm a worker
you're a worker
wouldn't you like to be a worker, too?
 
In everything I've read about compulsory pronouns, nobody has asked about the problems with compulson writ large. What they've asked is how this affects people that aren't "out."

I've got a great idea. Let's take a society based upon the idea of universal rights that has in practice denied them to certain subgroups. Let's rectify that by assigning certain rights and responsibilities to certain groups. Each individual claim of right or legal obligation of duty will depend upon whether or not society deems it that you are part of a particular subgroup.

I can't see how anything bad can happen. Really, I can't.
 
Imagine an entire society constructed upon whether or not you were 7/8ths white and all privileges and immunities of association, up to and including freedom, were based upon that. Would you all of the sudden think it were not so taxing if you were 6/8ths white and asked to present your papers all of the time? What if somebody in the 8/8ths "club" objected to the rights and duties foisted upon the subgroup? Is this not the recipe for historical atrocity? For wars to end wars?

Now imagine a society where the duties (the arm of the state or of employment) actively mandates a proscribed set of rules for someone who chooses not to identify with a certain biology vs. somebody who does. We'll call the impetus for this "historical underrepresentation." One group, historically underrepresented, has made demands of the subgroup that has been historically like the 8/8ths "club." This seems fair, even justiciable and desirable to some that are either in the historically underrepresented group or are sympathetic to its aims and claims.

But what of this compulsion? Even if the constant paper-asking of those who, in the previous hypothetical, enjoy the privileges and immunities of the 8/8ths white seems less-than-problematic in order to stop "historical underrepresentation," doesn't the division into subgroups seem odious to the citizen that wants the P&I enjoyed by all? What are the means of the state and the employer? What is its ultimate corrective to those who refuse? What is society willing to entertain? A lost job? A jail cell? One a property interest, one a life interest?

Is it really that histrionic in the day and age where property interests are so highly disregarded as to ask about the jail? The detention of the dissenters on college campuses into rooms while police are harassed and threatened in the name of protecting speakers that object to these issues shows us where the root of the activism lies.

It lies in up against the wall, mother****er.

And it's the suggested division under the law into differing subgroups with differing rights that is the problem here, if it need be spelled out. The subgroups themselves are nebulous and self-determined. The ends from the means are an issue, even. Nothing is neatly done. All are swept up.

Fight the culture fight before it dispossesses you.
 
This was more meant to be about teen beats in a lobby, by the way.

And Teen Beats is as bad as New Country, I'd have to say. Especially in a lobby full blast at 4:25 A.M. or so.
 
rockaction said:
Bake me a dildo cake, mother****er! This is freedom! Do it or your job!
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It’s almost like there’s isolated test cases that get reviewed by 9 partisans (they are) trying to interpret, or trying to align their worldview with, what a bunch of dead guys meant when they wrote a document centuries ago. Might as well use the Dead Sea Scrolls or read stones in a hat. And then amplify it.
 
McBokonon said:
It’s almost like there’s isolated test cases that get reviewed by 9 partisans (they are) trying to interpret, or trying to align their worldview with, what a bunch of dead guys meant when they wrote a document centuries ago. Might as well use the Dead Sea Scrolls or read stones in a hat. And then amplify it.
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I'd argue that it's worse than you make it and that the nine partisans are deliberately obfuscating what a document so obviously entails in spirit. I would argue that the Court has been that way since Earl Warren took over, and that partisanship and rank politics stemmed from the many slave cases when the majority upheld conservative (let's not confuse that term. I mean conservative for the time) views on slaves and personhood. The hits the Constitution has taken because of our original sin cannot be overstated. I think you and I would also shake hands on this.

It's been an arm of the political winds forever. Better men than me insist it's not, but it is.

I threw those politics in as an aside, though. Was talking with a friend about the UT-Austin stuff. His good friend is a librarian there and was accosted by students to change his bio or else. It was a weird situation, and this came from a liberal friend of mine. The illiberal tendencies and potential of this have the potential to be off the charts.

But we can't do politics on the board anymore like I just did.

This is about the Teen Beats in the lobby at 4:30 A.M. when there are sick people waiting to be seen at a hospital. I just thought of it as generational writ large and was thinking "Get off my lawn and out of my ER."
 
rockaction said:
This was more meant to be about teen beats in a lobby, by the way.

And Teen Beats is as bad as New Country, I'd have to say. Especially in a lobby full blast at 4:25 A.M. or so.
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I don't care much about the teen beats but whoever is in charge of the music needs to respect the time of day. That early, you need something soft and soothing.
 
rockaction said:
McBokonon said:
It’s almost like there’s isolated test cases that get reviewed by 9 partisans (they are) trying to interpret, or trying to align their worldview with, what a bunch of dead guys meant when they wrote a document centuries ago. Might as well use the Dead Sea Scrolls or read stones in a hat. And then amplify it.
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I'd argue that it's worse than you make it and that the nine partisans are deliberately obfuscating what a document so obviously entails in spirit. I would argue that the Court has been that way since Earl Warren took over, and that partisanship and rank politics stemmed from the many slave cases when the majority upheld conservative (let's not confuse that term. I mean conservative for the time) views on slaves and personhood. The hits the Constitution has taken because of our original sin cannot be overstated. I think you and I would also shake hands on this.

It's been an arm of the political winds forever. Better men than me insist it's not, but it is.
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Amen on this.
 
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