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Fla Times Union Reports MSW was suspended. (1 Viewer)

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This sounds like a "first drive suspension" not a gamer. Oh Del Rio why you so :goodposting: .

SEATTLE — Coach Jack Del Rio has been stressing the importance of work ethic and dedication this year and how it translates into team success.

The Jaguars also made a concerted effort to get rid of players who had a negative effect on the team chemistry last year.

Yet the team had three off-the-field incidents in the last two weeks, including two over the weekend.

Linebacker Brian Iwuh was inactive for the Houston game for breaking a team rule. Wide receiver Mike Sims-Walker suffered the same fate this week when he violated the team itinerary during the team’s weekend stay here.

And linebacker Quentin Groves was involved in a traffic accident on the way to the airport Friday and was issued a citation for improper lane change and driven by airport police to the airport.

Said quarterback David Garrard of not having Sims-Walker in the game: “He didn’t cost us a loss or anything, but whenever you have a dynamic player like that, you want him to be on the field.’’

Groves, who was recently demoted and listed as playing on special teams during the game, missed the team charter and had to travel to Seattle on his own.

Del Rio, asked how these incidents meshed with his emphasis on the team’s work ethic, said: “It certainly tarnishes those kind of feelings and statements.’’

Del Rio brought the team here on Friday to help get it prepared for the game. The team usually travels on Saturdays. :thumbup: [Hipple add:this move seems to have worked out well]

Early gamble doesn’t pay off

The Jaguars were 1 for 2 in fourth-down gambles Sunday, leaving them 4 for 6 for the season.

But the one they missed in the first quarter of their 41-0 loss turned the momentum.

They faced a 4th-and-1 at the Seattle 2 when Del Rio went for it rather than kick a field goal that would have tied the game at 3.

They lined up in what appeared to be a running formation, but Garrard rolled out with tight end Ernest Wilford and running back Greg Jones as his two targets.

The Seahawks weren’t fooled. They covered both receivers and rushed Garrard, who had no option but to toss a desperation pass that fell incomplete.

“They played it great,’’ Garrard said. “They had three or four guys barreling down on me.’’

12th man helps Seahawks

Garrard was sacked four times and said the offensive tackles, rookie Eben Britton and veteran Tra Thomas, couldn’t hear signals because of the crowd noise.

“That allows their defensive ends to get off the ball a little faster. We still have to be able to handle it,’’ Garrard said.

Britton, who came back after sitting out a week with a knee injury, said he aggravated the injury during the game, but said he should have no problems playing next week against St. Louis

Of the noise, he said, “They’ve got the whole 12th man thing and they get all excited about it. That’s great for them.’’

Shuffling the line again

Although Britton got his starting job back, the offensive lineman who replaced him, Mo Williams, lost his starting job.

Williams moved from guard to tackle to replace Britton and Uche Nwaneri came off the bench to play right guard.

Nwaneri played well enough that when Britton returned to the lineup, Nwaneri stayed at right guard and Williams went to the bench although he did see brief action. Tra Thomas started at left tackle in place of rookie Eugene Monroe, who was ill last week. Monroe saw some action.

Etc.

Linebacker Justin Durant sat out the game with a hip injury. ... Luke McCown made his Jaguars debut when Garrard was pulled in the fourth quarter, but he threw only one pass for 2 yards because the Seahawks ran the final 11:53 without throwing the ball.

vito.stellino@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4279
 
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This sounds like a "first drive suspension" not a gamer. Oh Del Rio why you so :rolleyes: .

SEATTLE — Coach Jack Del Rio has been stressing the importance of work ethic and dedication this year and how it translates into team success.

The Jaguars also made a concerted effort to get rid of players who had a negative effect on the team chemistry last year.

Yet the team had three off-the-field incidents in the last two weeks, including two over the weekend.

Linebacker Brian Iwuh was inactive for the Houston game for breaking a team rule. Wide receiver Mike Sims-Walker suffered the same fate this week when he violated the team itinerary during the team’s weekend stay here.

And linebacker Quentin Groves was involved in a traffic accident on the way to the airport Friday and was issued a citation for improper lane change and driven by airport police to the airport.

Said quarterback David Garrard of not having Sims-Walker in the game: “He didn’t cost us a loss or anything, but whenever you have a dynamic player like that, you want him to be on the field.’’

Groves, who was recently demoted and listed as playing on special teams during the game, missed the team charter and had to travel to Seattle on his own.

Del Rio, asked how these incidents meshed with his emphasis on the team’s work ethic, said: “It certainly tarnishes those kind of feelings and statements.’’

Del Rio brought the team here on Friday to help get it prepared for the game. The team usually travels on Saturdays.

Early gamble doesn’t pay off

The Jaguars were 1 for 2 in fourth-down gambles Sunday, leaving them 4 for 6 for the season.

But the one they missed in the first quarter of their 41-0 loss turned the momentum.

They faced a 4th-and-1 at the Seattle 2 when Del Rio went for it rather than kick a field goal that would have tied the game at 3.

They lined up in what appeared to be a running formation, but Garrard rolled out with tight end Ernest Wilford and running back Greg Jones as his two targets.

The Seahawks weren’t fooled. They covered both receivers and rushed Garrard, who had no option but to toss a desperation pass that fell incomplete.

“They played it great,’’ Garrard said. “They had three or four guys barreling down on me.’’

12th man helps Seahawks

Garrard was sacked four times and said the offensive tackles, rookie Eben Britton and veteran Tra Thomas, couldn’t hear signals because of the crowd noise.

“That allows their defensive ends to get off the ball a little faster. We still have to be able to handle it,’’ Garrard said.

Britton, who came back after sitting out a week with a knee injury, said he aggravated the injury during the game, but said he should have no problems playing next week against St. Louis

Of the noise, he said, “They’ve got the whole 12th man thing and they get all excited about it. That’s great for them.’’

Shuffling the line again

Although Britton got his starting job back, the offensive lineman who replaced him, Mo Williams, lost his starting job.

Williams moved from guard to tackle to replace Britton and Uche Nwaneri came off the bench to play right guard.

Nwaneri played well enough that when Britton returned to the lineup, Nwaneri stayed at right guard and Williams went to the bench although he did see brief action. Tra Thomas started at left tackle in place of rookie Eugene Monroe, who was ill last week. Monroe saw some action.

Etc.

Linebacker Justin Durant sat out the game with a hip injury. ... Luke McCown made his Jaguars debut when Garrard was pulled in the fourth quarter, but he threw only one pass for 2 yards because the Seahawks ran the final 11:53 without throwing the ball.

vito.stellino@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4279
Well, to be honest-I thought JDR went overboard when I first heard about it. But, if it's true that he had previously suspended another player for the same thing, it's hard to argue with it.
 
Well, to be honest-I thought JDR went overboard when I first heard about it. But, if it's true that he had previously suspended another player for the same thing, it's hard to argue with it.
Maybe if he was a college coach. But this is the NFL. How many organizations do you know where the same rules apply to the CFO/"top sales guy" as to the dockworker loading crates.It just seems that a good coach finds ways to punish and motivate players, but without punishing all the other players/fans/owners interests at the same time.
 
Groves, who was recently demoted and listed as playing on special teams during the game, missed the team charter and had to travel to Seattle on his own.
Plus, according to this Groves, who missed the plane (and almost/tried to commit hit n run, largely out of a greater fear of Del Rio, than the cops) actually played on special teams. So the "rules" appear to be somewhat flexible.
 
Groves, who was recently demoted and listed as playing on special teams during the game, missed the team charter and had to travel to Seattle on his own.
Plus, according to this Groves, who missed the plane (and almost/tried to commit hit n run, largely out of a greater fear of Del Rio, than the cops) actually played on special teams. So the "rules" appear to be somewhat flexible.
Just one total outsider's view, but I think that Del Rio will not last the season in Jacksonville. Poor record combined with the lackluster team support (lack of attendance) just has ne thinking that the end is near.Losing 41-0 when a slight favorite and these suspensions just add a little fuel to the fire.
 
Full disclaimer - I am a Sims-Walker owner so I'm biased here. That said, I thought the full game suspension was way over the top given the importance of the game. I think Del Rio would have made his point if he kept Sims-Walker out for a couple of series or the opening quarter, something along those lines. I do think Sims-Walker deserved to be punished, but suspending him for the entire game in a game the Jags had to win seemed excessive to me.

 
Well, to be honest-I thought JDR went overboard when I first heard about it. But, if it's true that he had previously suspended another player for the same thing, it's hard to argue with it.
Maybe if he was a college coach. But this is the NFL. How many organizations do you know where the same rules apply to the CFO/"top sales guy" as to the dockworker loading crates.
Let's be honest-MSW isn't comparable to a CFO/"top sales guy." He is a FF darling because he has (finally) demonstrated the talent that he was believed to possess & many FFers got him off the WR, or for cheap. As a result, many FFers are outraged that JDR would bench him for something this minor. If you wanted to compare someone to the CFO/"top sales guy," you'd need to talk about Garrard, MJD, maybe Holt. Sims-Walker isn't to that level yet.JDR had a policy, he has a history of enforcing that policy (which I was previously unaware of), and he enforced that policy. It's hard to logically find argument with this situation.
Plus, according to this Groves, who missed the plane (and almost/tried to commit hit n run, largely out of a greater fear of Del Rio, than the cops) actually played on special teams. So the "rules" appear to be somewhat flexible.
Let's look at these two situations how they actually occured, rather than how you have decided to portray them.1) MSW "violated the team's itinerary." I'm not sure what this actually means, but I'd guess he missed a meeting, stayed out after curfew, etc. Regardless, I'd imagine that he was at fault-that is, he didn't violate the itinerary because of circumstances outside of his control.2) Groves missed the plane because he had an accident (evidently his own fault, because he was charged with a moving violation). He didn't stay out late, or oversleep a meeting-he had a car accident. Your extrapolation on the story (or a reporter's version of the story) are irrelevant-the facts are that he missed the plane because of circumstances beyond his control. That, I would imagine, is why MSW was suspended and Groves was not. MSW made the mistake, and he was punished by JDR for it. Groves had an accident, and unavoidably missed the flight, therefore he wasn't punished.
 
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Why is it so hard to follow the team rules? These guys make a great living yet have problems being on time and follwing the guidelines laid out for them. Everything is handled for them..all they have to do is follow what are basically simple rules that are laid out.

I do not make anywhere near what these guys make, but somehow I found a way to make it on time to meetings, to make my flights on time, to be where I am supposed to be when I am supposed to be there. Puzzling at best.

 
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Still not enough info. I dont think he would apologize to the owners for being a few minutes late. Guy could have been out most of the night for all we know.

Having said that..back to bidness..

7 for 120 and 2 vs StL. Not being greedy or anything. :shrug:

 
Just one total outsider's view, but I think that Del Rio will not last the season in Jacksonville. Poor record combined with the lackluster team support (lack of attendance) just has ne thinking that the end is near.Losing 41-0 when a slight favorite and these suspensions just add a little fuel to the fire.
I think you're wrong for a couple of reasons. One, Jack is owed a lot of money on his contract and Jax isn't exactly rolling in the stuff. Two, when Jack started four rookies on opening day, including both tackles, I think it was a sign that he had been given word that his job was secure. As far as 41-0 goes, NFL history is filled with East coast teams dropping stinkers on West coast trips. This isn't some ultra-talented team we're talking about. The Jags are going to end up with seven or eight wins which will be a big improvement over last year and Jack will be the coach in 2010.
 
Everyone wants to know why Jaguars receiver Mike Sims-Walker was deactivated for Sunday’s 41-0 blowout at Seattle.

Well, the answer is simpler than you think.

Sims-Walker missed bed check Friday night due to a late-night rendezvous with a lady friend, according to an NFL source, who described the situaton by saying, "undefeated and untied."
Okay, I'm not a prude. What is that supposed to mean???
 

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