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Forsett? (1 Viewer)

I doubt he is a dynasty steal. Maybe he will be a good redraft steal. Maybe. And maybe next week they will trade for Lynch. I try not to overreact to news like this because there is so much uncertainty.

Personally, I doubt that the back of the future is on that team right now.

 
"If" Lynch was to end up in Seattle who would have more value Lynch or Forsett?

My first reaction would be to say Lynch because of Leon being a similar RB to Forsett and they may split reps while Lynch will get the early down and goal line touches :shrug:

But I think Forsett may just have that "it" factor, a true football player.

 
I love Justin Forsett and think he's a pretty special player. I see a lot of potential in him and I grabbed him off the waiver wire last year as a stash. I get a lot of Seahawk games on TV where I'm from so I got to see him a lot last year. From Weeks 10-17 last year when he was more involved with the offenece, he posted the following numbers:

94 carries, 496 yards, 5.2 ypc, 4 TDs

25 recs, 40 targets, 210 yards, 8.4 ypc, 62%, 1 TD

If you do the math, over a full season those numbers add up to:

214 carries

1133 yards

9 TDs

57 recs

91 targets

480 yards

2 TDs

Forsett is definitely a sleeper and if everything goes well he could be a very good RB2 and a great RB3 this year. Even if Lynch ends up in Seattle, another RB with work ethic problems and a risk to be suspended at any given time shouldn't pose a huge threat to Forsett's fantasy potential.

 
The one thing that makes me nervous about Justin Forsett is that his new coach, Pete Carroll for the last 4 years at USC has been riding the hot hand at RB. His coaching style is not going to provide a bell cow type runner. I think Leon Washington is a significant playing time partner. Still, can't argue with those who are exited about Forsett.

 
Leon Washington has to get on the field...he is actually a way's from doing that. Major major leg injury last season.

Forsett is in line to take this job. If they get Lynch....all bet's are off. Lynch depsite his off the field issues is a big time talent.

 
Leon Washington has to get on the field...he is actually a way's from doing that. Major major leg injury last season.Forsett is in line to take this job. If they get Lynch....all bet's are off. Lynch depsite his off the field issues is a big time talent.
Lynch started ahead of Forsett at Cal and performed much better than Forsett did.
 
CalBear said:
Todem said:
Leon Washington has to get on the field...he is actually a way's from doing that. Major major leg injury last season.Forsett is in line to take this job. If they get Lynch....all bet's are off. Lynch depsite his off the field issues is a big time talent.
Lynch started ahead of Forsett at Cal and performed much better than Forsett did.
1500 yards rushing 5.1 ypc 15tds. id say forsett performed pretty well. also, forsett rand for 164 and a TD against carroll, so pete knows what kind of player he has
 
Todem said:
Leon Washington has to get on the field...he is actually a way's from doing that. Major major leg injury last season.

Forsett is in line to take this job. If they get Lynch....all bet's are off. Lynch depsite his off the field issues is a big time talent.
Since when is 3.9 ypc considered big time?
 
Aardvarks said:
Thomsen said:
Forsett is looking like a nice RB2, especially in PPR. He is better than people think. He topped Profootballfocus elusive rating and seems underrated. Watching highlights of him, I'm surprised by the power he brings. Check him out at 0.16 in this vid:

Justin Forsett

He brings alot to the table.
I'm a good friend of Justin's uncle, DeWayne. Trust me when I say Justin Forsett is the purest definition of a fantasy sleeper there is. He will be on all 3 of my fantasy teams... I guarantee it.
What does this mean? Do you have inside information or are you just drafting the son of a friend?
 
CalBear said:
Todem said:
Leon Washington has to get on the field...he is actually a way's from doing that. Major major leg injury last season.Forsett is in line to take this job. If they get Lynch....all bet's are off. Lynch depsite his off the field issues is a big time talent.
Lynch started ahead of Forsett at Cal and performed much better than Forsett did.
1500 yards rushing 5.1 ypc 15tds. id say forsett performed pretty well. also, forsett rand for 164 and a TD against carroll, so pete knows what kind of player he has
Lynch averaged 6.6 ypc for his college career. So did JJ Arrington (who also rushed for 2000 yards). Jahvid Best averaged 7.3. I think it's accurate to say that Forsett had the least impressive college performance of any of the recent backs from Cal.Maybe he'd do great in the pros. I'm dubious but I wish him well.
 
CalBear said:
Todem said:
Leon Washington has to get on the field...he is actually a way's from doing that. Major major leg injury last season.Forsett is in line to take this job. If they get Lynch....all bet's are off. Lynch depsite his off the field issues is a big time talent.
Lynch started ahead of Forsett at Cal and performed much better than Forsett did.
1500 yards rushing 5.1 ypc 15tds. id say forsett performed pretty well. also, forsett rand for 164 and a TD against carroll, so pete knows what kind of player he has
Lynch averaged 6.6 ypc for his college career. So did JJ Arrington (who also rushed for 2000 yards). Jahvid Best averaged 7.3. I think it's accurate to say that Forsett had the least impressive college performance of any of the recent backs from Cal.Maybe he'd do great in the pros. I'm dubious but I wish him well.
you do realize that forsett isnt a rookie right? he did play a lot last year, you might want to take a second look at how he did. ppl act like theres nothing to go on with forsett when in all reality, he performed very well last year as lead back
 
you do realize that forsett isnt a rookie right? he did play a lot last year, you might want to take a second look at how he did. ppl act like theres nothing to go on with forsett when in all reality, he performed very well last year as lead back
I like Forsett; he's always been a hard worker. But I don't see how he has the skills even of JJ Arrington. A whole lot of his 2009 stats come from pasting St. Louis (#27 run defense) for 130 yards and 2 TDs. He also had a good game against Arizona (#17 run defense). If you're extrapolating that into a possible career, I think you're reading into a pretty small data set, when the larger data set shows a back who, while a hard worker, doesn't have the pure skills of most starting NFL RBs.
 
Todem said:
Leon Washington has to get on the field...he is actually a way's from doing that. Major major leg injury last season.

Forsett is in line to take this job. If they get Lynch....all bet's are off. Lynch depsite his off the field issues is a big time talent.
Since when is 3.9 ypc considered big time?
Sheesh....he has not had a great start to his career...but ask any GM even today which back they would take to be their lead dog and they all would take Lynch over Forsett. People are so quick to throw stats around like it is the all mighty...but watch the players...if you watched Lynch his rookie season you saw a glimpse of how good he could be. Then all his off field troubles started and the downward trend began. I am basing my thoughts on pure physical talent. I think Lynch is a bonehead...but if he is brought in...Forsett will have a true competition to win the job. Fatdale and Washington (same kind of back but had a horrific injury) are not competition like Lynch would be.

Listen I like Forsett...I think he is a great story and can be a nice sleeper this season. But Lynch has the size and speed you want for a feature back...he just is a head case. He can be very good if he get's his #### together and makes a 100% commitment. Also Buffalo is not the greatest team the last few yeas to run for...no threat of a passing game can do that to you too.

 
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Also Buffalo is not the greatest team the last few yeas to run for...no threat of a passing game can do that to you too.
Buffalo did stink the last few years, but I don't think teams brought their safeties all the time with Lee Evans out there. I'll admit I only see the Bills 2 or 3 times a year, but every game I've seen the opponent's game plan seemed to be "Don't get beat over the top and we won't lose."
 
Todem said:
Leon Washington has to get on the field...he is actually a way's from doing that. Major major leg injury last season.

Forsett is in line to take this job. If they get Lynch....all bet's are off. Lynch depsite his off the field issues is a big time talent.
Since when is 3.9 ypc considered big time?
Sheesh....he has not had a great start to his career...but ask any GM even today which back they would take to be their lead dog and they all would take Lynch over Forsett. People are so quick to throw stats around like it is the all mighty...but watch the players...if you watched Lynch his rookie season you saw a glimpse of how good he could be. Then all his off field troubles started and the downward trend began. I am basing my thoughts on pure physical talent. I think Lynch is a bonehead...but if he is brought in...Forsett will have a true competition to win the job. Fatdale and Washington (same kind of back but had a horrific injury) are not competition like Lynch would be.

Listen I like Forsett...I think he is a great story and can be a nice sleeper this season. But Lynch has the size and speed you want for a feature back...he just is a head case. He can be very good if he get's his #### together and makes a 100% commitment. Also Buffalo is not the greatest team the last few yeas to run for...no threat of a passing game can do that to you too.
Just curious. How close is Lynch to a 1-year suspension? He has screwed up twice so far in his young career. Seattle just cut Lendale White for being a numbskull. Wouldn't trading for Lynch go against the grain here?

 
Todem said:
Leon Washington has to get on the field...he is actually a way's from doing that. Major major leg injury last season.

Forsett is in line to take this job. If they get Lynch....all bet's are off. Lynch depsite his off the field issues is a big time talent.
Since when is 3.9 ypc considered big time?
Sheesh....he has not had a great start to his career...but ask any GM even today which back they would take to be their lead dog and they all would take Lynch over Forsett. People are so quick to throw stats around like it is the all mighty...but watch the players...if you watched Lynch his rookie season you saw a glimpse of how good he could be. Then all his off field troubles started and the downward trend began. I am basing my thoughts on pure physical talent. I think Lynch is a bonehead...but if he is brought in...Forsett will have a true competition to win the job. Fatdale and Washington (same kind of back but had a horrific injury) are not competition like Lynch would be.

Listen I like Forsett...I think he is a great story and can be a nice sleeper this season. But Lynch has the size and speed you want for a feature back...he just is a head case. He can be very good if he get's his #### together and makes a 100% commitment. Also Buffalo is not the greatest team the last few yeas to run for...no threat of a passing game can do that to you too.
Just curious. How close is Lynch to a 1-year suspension? He has screwed up twice so far in his young career. Seattle just cut Lendale White for being a numbskull. Wouldn't trading for Lynch go against the grain here?
To an extent yes it would be except talent level in this situation make Lynch well worth the risk vs releasing White who they quickly seen as not having a role that would help their team. Gambling on attitude is worth the risk at times for a business when weighing the positives and negatives.

 
I'm thinking the quick exit of Lendale White from Seattle means that the team is comfortable with Forsett as the lead back of a committee. As I wrote a couple of months ago, I think 14-16 carries a game and 4-5 targets (hopefully receptions) is the maximum you can hope for from him week to week, with some 10 carries, 2 catch type days when the game is out of hand, but that's still RB2 range in the current NFL climate (leaning towards 2-back and RBBC backfields). Washington is a big ? mark due to that leg injury - I think he may start not just the preseason, but also the regular season, on PUP. So that likely means Forsett, another player at RB to be acquired later, and/or Julius Jones in a committee to start the year (at the minim). If Forsett does really well and impresses Pete Carroll and Jeremy Bates, then he might actually have a shot at borderline RB1-type numbers (say RB 15ish).

Anyways, I'm glad I've got him on my dynasty roster(s).

 
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If I owned Forsett, I'd hope for solid RB2 production this year, then try and trade him before the Hawks picked up another RB next year, gutting his value.

 
Any news if he will stay on as one of the punt returners? I'm in a PPR and return league, so he has some serious value if so.

In general I think Forsett is very underrated, last year he was pretty much the only playmaker on a poor offense, and that situation will improve, at least a little bit. It can't be much worse. I think a projection of 12-16 carries, 3-6 catches a game is about right.

 
Any news if he will stay on as one of the punt returners? I'm in a PPR and return league, so he has some serious value if so.
I have serious doubts he will spend any time returning kicks. I expect Washington to handle kickoffs and Tate to handle punts.
 
Matt Schauf article with his opinion

3. I like Justin Forsett - love him if he doesn't rise.

There's plenty of reason to be wary of Forsett's situation for 2010. Pete Carroll acquired a familiar face from USC over draft weekend in LenDale White, and the seemingly rededicated (or is it just finally dedicated?) back should be pegged for 200-plus carries in Seattle. The Seahawks also added Leon Washington in the same span, a veteran back who fits much the same profile (runner/receiver/returner) as Forsett.

White makes sense as a tandem back to accompany a smaller, quicker runner (which both Forsett and Washington are), but why would Carroll make the second move if he didn't plan to use Washington ahead of Forsett? Well, the new Seahawks' coach has always preached competition, and adding talented players is always a good thing. To me, the fact that his team traded a pick that became Joe McKnight simply means that Carroll likes Washington more than McKnight and didn't have a crush on any other player on the board at that stage. Most importantly, Washington is coming off a broken leg that ended his 2009 at mid- year and threatens his availability for the start of 2010.

Even if Washington is ready to go in September, one would have to be ignorant to miss what Forsett did in Seattle last year. He averaged 1.7 yards per carry more than Julius Jones behind a struggling (and hurting) offensive line. He caught 30 passes over the final nine games after not getting used much through the season's first half. He ran for at least 5.0 yards per carry in each of the four weeks in which he got 10 handoffs or more.

To put it simply: Forsett was easily Seattle's best offensive player last year despite being criminally underused. Perhaps he fails to get consistent enough touches again this year to satisfy fantasy owners each week, but I'll take the chance in Round 10 - especially with PPR scoring. That's where I got him in each draft.

 
What is Forsett's dynasty trade value?

I have him in a number of dynasty leagues and I like what he did last year and I like his story. But I am starting to think that his value may be at its highest point right now as he looks to be the number 1 RB in Seattle at the moment. I am certain that Washington once healthy will have a decent role and there is always the chance of a trade for a RB as most have concerns that Forsett can carry the load.

 
I don't care about dynasty but- as I said before- I know Forsett's uncle Dewayne and we talk about JF every week. Before, during and after the Lendale thing, Carroll has always been preparing Forsett to carry a big load. Lendale was a cheap flier, only because Carroll coached him at USC. What hasn't been publicized is that LenDale has a bum knee. He's dealt with it since October 2007.

Anyway......... Forsett is in for a great year unless he does something to screw it up - and I hear nothing but tales of devotion, hard work and ambition about this kid. Unless he gets hurt in camp I plan on reaching a round or two early to make sure I get him.

 
16 of 17 carries and 90 total yards... homers, is he entrenched as rb1 or will carroll keep owners on their toes?

 
With Leon looking fully healed from the broken leg, looking fast and explosive in the return game, whats been keeping him from contributing to the run game?

 
nlgb1 said:
16 of 17 carries and 90 total yards... homers, is he entrenched as rb1 or will carroll keep owners on their toes?
Looks entrenched. Carroll said he would use the first couple of games to evaluate his running backs and it looks like that evaluation is now complete and Forsett is the guy. Justin played in all situations yesterday (goalline,3rd down,etc) and he played about 85% of the Seahawks snaps. Washington only came into spell Forsett and Jones never even saw the field. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones inactive in coming weeks. The OL isn't creating holes consistently and Forsett's limitation is that he can't plow his way for a couple of yards, but if there is a hole he usually explodes through it and he gets quite a few big plays.
 
nlgb1 said:
16 of 17 carries and 90 total yards... homers, is he entrenched as rb1 or will carroll keep owners on their toes?
Looks entrenched. Carroll said he would use the first couple of games to evaluate his running backs and it looks like that evaluation is now complete and Forsett is the guy. Justin played in all situations yesterday (goalline,3rd down,etc) and he played about 85% of the Seahawks snaps. Washington only came into spell Forsett and Jones never even saw the field. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones inactive in coming weeks. The OL isn't creating holes consistently and Forsett's limitation is that he can't plow his way for a couple of yards, but if there is a hole he usually explodes through it and he gets quite a few big plays.
Excellent to hear. Im trying to drum up trade value for him but no one is biting based on the mediocre numbers. Hopefully he takes off soon.
 
topdawg24 said:
With Leon looking fully healed from the broken leg, looking fast and explosive in the return game, whats been keeping him from contributing to the run game?
I don't think he is 100% yet despite yesterday's great performance. Forsett has simply outperformed him as a running back so far. Washington may get better as the season goes along and he still will get some touches because Forsett will need to be spelled quite a bit because of his size but Forsett looks like the true feature back now.
 
hes really only a depth guy on my team, but i think hes a great start this week against StL, especially with sjax looking like he will miss a week

 
My gut reaction to what I've seen so far....

1. I believe that Washington will return kicks for the entire season. I don't know of a single RB in the NFL that does this that is also the primary ball carrier out of the backfield. What I'm trying to say here is I don't think Washington will ever be leaned on as a feature RB.

2. Seattle homers have been waiting for a long time for Julius Jones to be kept on the bench. My guess is he stays there from now on unless Forsett gets hurt.

3. I believe it is now Forsett's job to lose.

 
CrossEyed said:
Any chance Forsett regains the primary gig with Lynch in the doghouse?
Doghouse?
Fumbles.LINK

"RB Marshawn Lynch lost two fumbles Sunday against the ball-hawking Saints, killing two promising drives in a 34-19 loss. Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said after watching the game film on Monday that he had some concerns with ball security for Lynch....Carroll replaced Lynch with Leon Washington for the rest of the game. Along with the fumbles, Lynch also dropped two passes and finished with just 36 yards on seven carries."

 
CrossEyed said:
Any chance Forsett regains the primary gig with Lynch in the doghouse?
Doghouse?
Fumbles.LINK

"RB Marshawn Lynch lost two fumbles Sunday against the ball-hawking Saints, killing two promising drives in a 34-19 loss. Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said after watching the game film on Monday that he had some concerns with ball security for Lynch....Carroll replaced Lynch with Leon Washington for the rest of the game. Along with the fumbles, Lynch also dropped two passes and finished with just 36 yards on seven carries."
5+ ypc is good, no? I understand the first part, he needs to hold onto the ball, but he was running hard and finding some space.

 
So Forsett is pretty much the third down back? If Lynch gets pulled/hurt they would go with Leon on 1st & 2nd?

 
So Forsett is pretty much the third down back? If Lynch gets pulled/hurt they would go with Leon on 1st & 2nd?
I don't think so. Prior to Lynch it was Forsett and with Lynch doing little with the carries he's getting I wouldn't be surprised if Forsett got a few more. Bi think he's worth a pickup if you have a spot.
 
So Forsett is pretty much the third down back? If Lynch gets pulled/hurt they would go with Leon on 1st & 2nd?
I don't think so. Prior to Lynch it was Forsett and with Lynch doing little with the carries he's getting I wouldn't be surprised if Forsett got a few more. Bi think he's worth a pickup if you have a spot.
Actually I already have him sitting at the end of my bench. My decision right now is whether to let him remain or to drop him for a guy like Mo Morris, Choice, or James Davis.
 
So Forsett is pretty much the third down back? If Lynch gets pulled/hurt they would go with Leon on 1st & 2nd?
I don't think so. Prior to Lynch it was Forsett and with Lynch doing little with the carries he's getting I wouldn't be surprised if Forsett got a few more. Bi think he's worth a pickup if you have a spot.
Actually I already have him sitting at the end of my bench. My decision right now is whether to let him remain or to drop him for a guy like Mo Morris, Choice, or James Davis.
No, no, and no.
 

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