Frank Gore Stud or Dud (1 Viewer)

[cantstop1999]

Im starting to see F.Gore creep up the rankings. They should have a better year passing with Martz there and B.Johnson and I.Bruce. Gore is healthy this year and will see a ton of carries and receptions. W hat do you guys think ? Im sitting at 6 this year and i think the top 5 will be A.P. ,L.T., BRADY,S.J, WESTBROOK, ? so Addai ,Gore and Barber. Nice choices at 6 still but not sure yet. What do you guys think about Gore?

 

[B Maverick]

let me start with I am a fan of Gore. Rode him and Portis to a 2nd place finish last year(would have been first but my qb situation turned ugly week 17... damn PManning and Gerrard! lol) I hope to have those two carry me again this year since its a keeper league.

Gore: Injury concerns, martz's passing game, etc

Addai: Return of Rhodes, Hart

Barber: F Jones, is he a 20 carry a game for 16 games guy?

Its really what you feel is the lowest risk of the 3. And speaking of Portis, is he not an option for you at 6??

 

[jurb26]

My quick take on Gore. PPR stud, standard league top 10... so long as he stays on the field.

 

[prymetyme25]

You have to ask yourself..... What has Martz done for any rb? Seriously. Every year you him say the samething to the head coaches. "I'll have a balanced attack" then what happens? Oh yeah, He throws it 50 times and runs 15 by week 3.

Honestly Martz is like a crackhead. You give him and job and say"If I find out you smoking again I'm gonna fire you". he answers "I'm a changed man and I seen the error of my way." You watch him and he's cool for a few weeks then next thing you know, you turn your head and look back and he's shaking and scratching. Dude just can't help hisself. Passing is an addiction for him. He really needs help.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

You have to ask yourself..... What has Martz done for any rb? Seriously. Every year you him say the samething to the head coaches. "I'll have a balanced attack" then what happens? Oh yeah, He throws it 50 times and runs 15 by week 3.

You should pay attention more. Ever hear of a guy named Marshall Faulk? When healthy, Kevin Jones was a good fantasy RB1 with Martz too. 80 catches is generally worth more than 150 extra carries in standard leagues, and off-the-charts better in PPR. Gore will be a beast with Martz.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

I don't think that I could draft Gore before Addai. Don't get me wrong Gore's a better player but that Colts offense is just too good. Addai had 15 touchdowns last season like it was nothing.

As for Gore obviously he's a stud. Even with a horrible offense he puts up top-10 type numbers. Martz can't be any worse than whoever was calling plays last season. He gets his on the ground and through the air. He had over 50 catches each of the past two seasons. Who knows how many catches he could have this season? 70? 80? The sky's the limit. His touchdown totals probably won't be too high because of the team that he plays for but the incredible amount of yards should make up for it. I'd have no problems with Frank Gore as a #1 running back on a fantasy team.

P.S. Did you know that Frank Gore had over 100 yards in each of his final 6 games last season? He really turned it on towards the end of the year. If that can somehow carry over to next year I think he can put up numbers similar to 2006.

 

[jurb26]

You have to ask yourself..... What has Martz done for any rb? Seriously. Every year you him say the samething to the head coaches. "I'll have a balanced attack" then what happens? Oh yeah, He throws it 50 times and runs 15 by week 3.

You should pay attention more. Ever hear of a guy named Marshall Faulk? When healthy, Kevin Jones was a good fantasy RB1 with Martz too. 80 catches is generally worth more than 150 extra carries in standard leagues, and off-the-charts better in PPR. Gore will be a beast with Martz.

Seriously, Faulk averaged over 5 receptions per game under Martz and Jones was averaging 4 receptions per game. No matter how you slice that, that is gold in PPR. 64-80 receptions. Yeah I'll take that. Not only is Gore the only weapon SF has right now, he has already proven capable of putting up 60+ receptions in a season. He is a perfect fit for what Martz likes to do.

 

[MAC_32]

c. none of the above.

 

[cantstop1999]

i really think he will be a beast , 300 + carries 60-70 rec. and 10 tds but i think 10 tds might be the max.i wonder if addai's numbers might be better with all the td's he will get.

 

[Andy Herron]

Instead of "zooming in" on Frank Gore, I would be "zooming out".

Is he top 5 material? Not likely. Top 10? Probably so.

This is still San Francisco, and until they can settle the QB position AND the passing game, Gore will still see a crowded box.

Martz's passing game philosophy is not easy to grasp for any QB, especially in the first year. No real veterans to lean on either, who may have the ability to grasp it sooner. This will be a work in progress, and I wouldn't put alot of emphasis or thought towards an injury prone RB in such a situation. The offensive line isn't what it needs to be either.

Bottom line, I certainly wouldn't take him at #6.

Too many other "solid" choices with that pick.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

i really think he will be a beast , 300 + carries 60-70 rec. and 10 tds but i think 10 tds might be the max.i wonder if addai's numbers might be better with all the td's he will get.

If Gore gets those touches, then he is 100% going to be close to 2000 yards. Addai is a 1500 yard, 40 catch player. He'll need a whole lot of TDs to make up 400 - 500 yards and 20 - 30 catches. If you think that Gore touches the ball that much (and I personally think that you are low in catches, provided Gore plays 16 games) then there is no way to justify taking Addai over him, particularly in PPR.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Instead of "zooming in" on Frank Gore, I would be "zooming out".

Is he top 5 material? Not likely. Top 10? Probably so.

This is still San Francisco, and until they can settle the QB position AND the passing game, Gore will still see a crowded box.

Martz's passing game philosophy is not easy to grasp for any QB, especially in the first year. No real veterans to lean on either, who may have the ability to grasp it sooner. This will be a work in progress, and I wouldn't put alot of emphasis or thought towards an injury prone RB in such a situation. The offensive line isn't what it needs to be either.

Bottom line, I certainly wouldn't take him at #6.

Too many other "solid" choices with that pick.

Frank Gore has started 31 out of a possible 32 games the past two years, while averaging more than 22 touches/game. Who are you drafting at #6 with a better track record than that?

 

[Andy Herron]

Instead of "zooming in" on Frank Gore, I would be "zooming out".

Is he top 5 material? Not likely. Top 10? Probably so.

This is still San Francisco, and until they can settle the QB position AND the passing game, Gore will still see a crowded box.

Martz's passing game philosophy is not easy to grasp for any QB, especially in the first year. No real veterans to lean on either, who may have the ability to grasp it sooner. This will be a work in progress, and I wouldn't put alot of emphasis or thought towards an injury prone RB in such a situation. The offensive line isn't what it needs to be either.

Bottom line, I certainly wouldn't take him at #6.

Too many other "solid" choices with that pick.

Frank Gore has started 31 out of a possible 32 games the past two years, while averaging more than 22 touches/game. Who are you drafting at #6 with a better track record than that?

Hey, he's all your's. Go for it.

 

[Scooby]

My quick take on Gore. PPR stud, standard league top 10... so long as he stays on the field.

I agree with this

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Tomlinson

Peterson

Westbrook

Addai

Jackson

Portis

I think those are the only running backs I'd rather have than Frank Gore this upcoming season.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Instead of "zooming in" on Frank Gore, I would be "zooming out".

Is he top 5 material? Not likely. Top 10? Probably so.

This is still San Francisco, and until they can settle the QB position AND the passing game, Gore will still see a crowded box.

Martz's passing game philosophy is not easy to grasp for any QB, especially in the first year. No real veterans to lean on either, who may have the ability to grasp it sooner. This will be a work in progress, and I wouldn't put alot of emphasis or thought towards an injury prone RB in such a situation. The offensive line isn't what it needs to be either.

Bottom line, I certainly wouldn't take him at #6.

Too many other "solid" choices with that pick.

Frank Gore has started 31 out of a possible 32 games the past two years, while averaging more than 22 touches/game. Who are you drafting at #6 with a better track record than that?

Hey, he's all your's. Go for it.

I can understand most of your argument, even though I disagree with it. Frank Gore being injury prone is just not correct, though. He has actually pretty much proven the opposite during his time as an NFL starter.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Tomlinson PetersonWestbrookAddai JacksonPortisI think those are the only running backs I'd rather have than Frank Gore this upcoming season.

I can see the argument for each, even though I disagree with some. Andy mentioned "too many other more solid guys" at 6, and I don't see much reason to put him lower than RB7 in standard leagues, and being solid/reliable is not a flaw for him.

 

[sfl49er]

i really think he will be a beast , 300 + carries 60-70 rec. and 10 tds but i think 10 tds might be the max.i wonder if addai's numbers might be better with all the td's he will get.

I certainly dont see 300 carries. And I dont want to see 300 carries. I want to see a 1000 yard rusher with 200-225 carries. I think Gore will get just as you said though in 60-70. Bottom line, the rest of the team needs to step up and produce. It the receivers prove they're a threat, then the holes will open for those 1000 yards.

 

[dmac37]

Martz + PPR = STUD

We all know about Faulk, in 2006 KJ was #12 RB in our PPR league and he missed 4 complete games and most of one more.

Last year the Lions were a complete mess and I think Martz learned a little from that.

 

[prymetyme25]

You have to ask yourself..... What has Martz done for any rb? Seriously. Every year you him say the samething to the head coaches. "I'll have a balanced attack" then what happens? Oh yeah, He throws it 50 times and runs 15 by week 3.

You should pay attention more. Ever hear of a guy named Marshall Faulk? When healthy, Kevin Jones was a good fantasy RB1 with Martz too. 80 catches is generally worth more than 150 extra carries in standard leagues, and off-the-charts better in PPR. Gore will be a beast with Martz.

Seriously, Faulk averaged over 5 receptions per game under Martz and Jones was averaging 4 receptions per game. No matter how you slice that, that is gold in PPR. 64-80 receptions. Yeah I'll take that. Not only is Gore the only weapon SF has right now, he has already proven capable of putting up 60+ receptions in a season. He is a perfect fit for what Martz likes to do.

You think Martz had something to do with Faulk getting catches. Was he in indy too?P. S. In PPR yes he would be gold but not everyone plays in PPR. You do know that Jones had 5 games last year with single digit carries. Thats unacceptable.

 

[sholditch]

If you see Gore as a much better talent than Addai, it might be worth the risk, but you have to consider, IMO, four factors when selecting a RB:

1. The RB

2. The line

3. The QB

4. The defense

Addai beats the snot outta Gore in 3 of these 4 cats. So for me I would basically have to beleive that Gore is twice the talent and ability of Addai for it to beat out the other three factors.

 

[shadyridr]

Huge Gore fan and I think Addai is a little overrated. But that being said Id still pick Addai ahead of Gore because that offense is so much better. Id probably pick Barber ahead of Gore as well for the same reason. Just hard to pass up those 2 TD studs.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

Instead of "zooming in" on Frank Gore, I would be "zooming out".

Is he top 5 material? Not likely. Top 10? Probably so.

This is still San Francisco, and until they can settle the QB position AND the passing game, Gore will still see a crowded box.

Martz's passing game philosophy is not easy to grasp for any QB, especially in the first year. No real veterans to lean on either, who may have the ability to grasp it sooner. This will be a work in progress, and I wouldn't put alot of emphasis or thought towards an injury prone RB in such a situation. The offensive line isn't what it needs to be either.

Bottom line, I certainly wouldn't take him at #6.

Too many other "solid" choices with that pick.

Frank Gore has started 31 out of a possible 32 games the past two years, while averaging more than 22 touches/game. Who are you drafting at #6 with a better track record than that?

Hey, he's all your's. Go for it.

I can understand most of your argument, even though I disagree with it. Frank Gore being injury prone is just not correct, though. He has actually pretty much proven the opposite during his time as an NFL starter.

I agree that he has been healthy his first three seasons in the NFL (3 missed games). However, you're crazy if you overlook the fact that the guy has had two torn ACLs (both knees) and two rebuilt shoulders. I know a lot of players have come back from a torn ACL in this day and age (Addai being one), but four major reconstructive surgeries to four different joints definitely raises a red flag in my book.

 

[kerpow]

For me, the top 5 are pretty cut and dry. You could argue that the LT and AP are the 1st tier and Jackson, Westbrook and Addai are the 2nd tier. As every year, it gets a little murky after that. Probably Portis, Barber, Gore and LJ are the next tier but you have to consider Brady and Moss at #6 as well. If you refuse to draft a QB or WR that early I understand, but at least consider them.

 

[LBH]

I think Gore is in for a big season. The SF offense has no where to go but through him. In ppr leagues I think he will be top 5

 

[dmac37]

If you see Gore as a much better talent than Addai, it might be worth the risk, but you have to consider, IMO, four factors when selecting a RB:1. The RB2. The line3. The QB4. The defenseAddai beats the snot outta Gore in 3 of these 4 cats. So for me I would basically have to beleive that Gore is twice the talent and ability of Addai for it to beat out the other three factors.

I agree all valid points, but need to include one more:5. Number of touches, Addai will share many touches with the other talented Colts. The whole SF offense will go through Gore.

 

[David Yudkin]

Since Martz entered the league as an assistant coach through his days as an OC and HC, here's how the primary running back has done each season:

1992 Rams: Cleveland Gary, 88.6 yfs, 0.63 TD per game (fantasy #9 RB)

1993 Rams: Jerome Bettis, 104.6 yfs, 0.44 TD per game (#2 RB)

1994 Rams: Jerome Bettis, 82.4 yfs, 0.25 TD per game (#13 RB)

1995 Rams: Jerome Bettis, 49.5 yfs, 0.20 TD per game (#41 RB)

1996 Rams: Harold Green, 48,0 yfs, 0.31 TD per game (#29 RB) (Split time with Lawrence Phillips)

1997 Skins: Terry Allen 89.6 yfs, 0.50 TD per game (RB #28) (hurt, split time with Stephen Davis)

1998 Skins: Terry Allen 82.8 yfs, 0.20 TD per game (RB #33) (hurt, split time with Skip Hicks)

1999 Rams: Marshall Faulk, 151.8 yfs, 0.75 TD per game (RB #2)

2000 Rams: Marshall Faulk, 156.4 yfs, 1.86 TD per game (RB #1)

2001 Rams: Marshall Faulk, 153.4 yfs, 1.50 TD per game (RB #1)

2002 Rams: Marshall Faulk, 106.4 yfs, 0.71 TD per game (RB #14)

2003 Rams: Marshall Faulk, 100.7 yfs, 1.00 TD per game (RB #16)

2004 Rams: Marshall Faulk, 77.4 yfs, 0.29 TD per game (RB #30) (split time with Steven Jackson)

2005 Rams: Steven Jackson, 91.1 yfs, 0.67 TD per game (RB #11)

2006 Lions: Kevin Jones, 100.8 yfs, 0.75 TD per game (RB #23)

2007 Lions: Kevin Jones, 59.8 yfs, 0.62 TD per game (RB #28)

 

[Wildman]

Stud.

Gore averaged over 4 ypc in a disappointing '07 after such a great '06. Kevin Jones wasn't so wonderful from '06-'07, but he did average 4.6 ypc in any game during that span he had at least 15 attempts. Gore is much > RB than KJ (and healthier). I see an improvement and Martz tends to work fast.

 

[Riffraff]

I like Gore.

People forget the ACL injuries were 5 years ago, that's right... 5 years.

That's a long time in RB years.

People say he's injury prone. Fine, but who isn't?

Just about all the guys rated ahead of him have injury issues and more recent too.

- Gore - Missed 3 games in his career. 2 were as a rookie back-up with a groin injury.

- Addai - Missed 1 game in his career. Blew his ACL and MCL in high school, but no one brings it up.

- Portis - Missed 12 games in his career. Hand, shoulder, knee. Plenty to talk about.

- Tomlinson - only missed 1 game in his career. Think it was groin. That's why he's at the top of the charts.

- Jackson - Missed 7 games in his career. Knee, groin, back. Pick one to talk about.

- Westbrook - Missed 11 games in his career. Had a Lis Franc injury and came back. Knee too.

- Peterson - Missed 2 games in his career. Knee injury. High average to start a career.

Again, other than Tomlinson, who isn't an injury risk?

I'll concede the Martz factors, but to say Gore is more prone to injuries than his peers is misleading at best.

 

[sholditch]

If you see Gore as a much better talent than Addai, it might be worth the risk, but you have to consider, IMO, four factors when selecting a RB:1. The RB2. The line3. The QB4. The defenseAddai beats the snot outta Gore in 3 of these 4 cats. So for me I would basically have to beleive that Gore is twice the talent and ability of Addai for it to beat out the other three factors.

I agree all valid points, but need to include one more:5. Number of touches, Addai will share many touches with the other talented Colts. The whole SF offense will go through Gore.

Good point. Though I don't think the split with Rhodes will be anything close to what it was last time Rhodes was there. I see about 65-35.

 

[shadyridr]

If you see Gore as a much better talent than Addai, it might be worth the risk, but you have to consider, IMO, four factors when selecting a RB:1. The RB2. The line3. The QB4. The defenseAddai beats the snot outta Gore in 3 of these 4 cats. So for me I would basically have to beleive that Gore is twice the talent and ability of Addai for it to beat out the other three factors.

I agree all valid points, but need to include one more:5. Number of touches, Addai will share many touches with the other talented Colts. The whole SF offense will go through Gore.

Good point. Though I don't think the split with Rhodes will be anything close to what it was last time Rhodes was there. I see about 65-35.

Rhodes will get more carries than Keith had but less than he had the previous year.

 

[cantstop1999]

Gore is a beast although he had a ruff year last year.

 

[Birdie048]

Good point. Though I don't think the split with Rhodes will be anything close to what it was last time Rhodes was there. I see about 65-35.

While I agree that Rhodes will not see as many touches as he did during his last stint in Indy, Keith will also eat into Addai's touches. Marvin Harrison has lost a step/knee trouble and that is cause for concern IMO. Wayne is still elite, but Anthony Gonzalez has a long way to go to replace the magic of Marvin. Dallas Clark did a great job taking up some of Marvin's looks, but the diversity of the offense does not rely on an individual in Indy. The double edged sword in SF is that Gore is the focus of the offense. Take him out and SF has very little left to challenge. Gore will see more touches than Addai. Plain and simple. Martz will open things up somewhat with the offense, but Gore will still be the center point of the attack.Gore is a durable RB and Norv Turner (when he was there) was clear about wanting to limit his touches early. This hurt Gore's numbers, but the entire offense was hurting last year. Addai is a part of a machine. The machine will run without him in Indy. Gore is the center cog in SF. It won't work without him.

 

[J-Rock]

As a niners fan I love Gore and I think he has a much better upside this season than Addai. Having said that, I'd take Addai over Gore as my RB1. There are just too many varriables with SF this year. You know what you are going to get with Addai. Gore has a high celing and a low floor this year. I'd hope he slips into the second round and try to grab him there.

 

[Captain_Apocalypse]

Does no one here think Foster will take away any of Gore's carries/receptions? Is he a non-factor?

 

[Birdie048]

Does no one here think Foster will take away any of Gore's carries/receptions? Is he a non-factor?

Good question... but this thread started with the idea of injury concerns for Gore. If you include Foster in this discussion, Foster is even a larger concern of missing time due to injury. Foster missed part of each of the past 3 season in Carolina. Marshall Faulk was in SF this week doing a report for NFL Network. He also spent time giving Gore some tips.

http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/1004221.html

 

[shadyridr]

Good point. Though I don't think the split with Rhodes will be anything close to what it was last time Rhodes was there. I see about 65-35.

While I agree that Rhodes will not see as many touches as he did during his last stint in Indy, Keith will also eat into Addai's touches. Marvin Harrison has lost a step/knee trouble and that is cause for concern IMO. Wayne is still elite, but Anthony Gonzalez has a long way to go to replace the magic of Marvin. Dallas Clark did a great job taking up some of Marvin's looks, but the diversity of the offense does not rely on an individual in Indy. The double edged sword in SF is that Gore is the focus of the offense. Take him out and SF has very little left to challenge. Gore will see more touches than Addai. Plain and simple. Martz will open things up somewhat with the offense, but Gore will still be the center point of the attack.

Gore is a durable RB and Norv Turner (when he was there) was clear about wanting to limit his touches early. This hurt Gore's numbers, but the entire offense was hurting last year.

Addai is a part of a machine. The machine will run without him in Indy. Gore is the center cog in SF. It won't work without him.

Wasnt Keith released?

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

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Wasnt Keith released?

No, he was not released.

 

[Franknbeans]

My quick take on Gore. PPR stud, standard league top 10... so long as he stays on the field.

I agree with this

x 2. I also won a title with Gore in the backfield last season so I have a soft spot for him despite his inconsistent season last year. He was a stud just two short years ago and was a hot commodity in last year's draft.

 

[bcr8f]

My quick take on Gore. PPR stud, standard league top 10... so long as he stays on the field.

Mike Martz=Gore staying off the fieldFantasy playoffs last year KJ 6 and 9 touches. These 2 followed a 23 carry 2 touchdown game. Martz is death. You never get a handle on what he's going to do.

 

[TheFanatic]

You have to ask yourself..... What has Martz done for any rb? Seriously. Every year you him say the samething to the head coaches. "I'll have a balanced attack" then what happens? Oh yeah, He throws it 50 times and runs 15 by week 3.

You should pay attention more. Ever hear of a guy named Marshall Faulk? When healthy, Kevin Jones was a good fantasy RB1 with Martz too. 80 catches is generally worth more than 150 extra carries in standard leagues, and off-the-charts better in PPR. Gore will be a beast with Martz.

Seriously, Faulk averaged over 5 receptions per game under Martz and Jones was averaging 4 receptions per game. No matter how you slice that, that is gold in PPR. 64-80 receptions. Yeah I'll take that. Not only is Gore the only weapon SF has right now, he has already proven capable of putting up 60+ receptions in a season. He is a perfect fit for what Martz likes to do.

You think Martz had something to do with Faulk getting catches. Was he in indy too?P. S. In PPR yes he would be gold but not everyone plays in PPR. You do know that Jones had 5 games last year with single digit carries. Thats unacceptable.

Last I checked there are only a couple QB's in the league that call their own plays. Warner was never one of them. If you think Martz had nothing to do with Faulk getting catches then you don't know anything about football. That and Martz had man love for Faulk. He gushed and raved about the guy in every post game news conference. He tried to get the ball into his hands as often as he could. Martz called the plays as the OC and as the HC of the Rams. He was the one calling for the ball to go to #28 early and often. Bringing up Faulk's time in Indy really has no bearing on this discussion whatsoever.

 

[AnonymousBob]

If you see Gore as a much better talent than Addai, it might be worth the risk, but you have to consider, IMO, four factors when selecting a RB:1. The RB2. The line3. The QB4. The defenseAddai beats the snot outta Gore in 3 of these 4 cats. So for me I would basically have to beleive that Gore is twice the talent and ability of Addai for it to beat out the other three factors.

I agree all valid points, but need to include one more:5. Number of touches, Addai will share many touches with the other talented Colts. The whole SF offense will go through Gore.

Consider the size of the pie. Last year the Niners scored the fewest points in the entire league. The Colts were behind only the Patriots. In fact, Indianapolis scored MORE than double what SF was able to put up. I'm a big time Niners fan but I also recognize Martz has a long way to go simply to get us middle of the road. The Colts are already elite...so while Gore may end up with a bigger percent of his team's offense, it's a much smaller pie.

 

[cstu]

Instead of "zooming in" on Frank Gore, I would be "zooming out".

Is he top 5 material? Not likely. Top 10? Probably so.

This is still San Francisco, and until they can settle the QB position AND the passing game, Gore will still see a crowded box.

Martz's passing game philosophy is not easy to grasp for any QB, especially in the first year. No real veterans to lean on either, who may have the ability to grasp it sooner. This will be a work in progress, and I wouldn't put alot of emphasis or thought towards an injury prone RB in such a situation. The offensive line isn't what it needs to be either.

Bottom line, I certainly wouldn't take him at #6.

Too many other "solid" choices with that pick.

Frank Gore has started 31 out of a possible 32 games the past two years, while averaging more than 22 touches/game. Who are you drafting at #6 with a better track record than that?

Hey, he's all your's. Go for it.

I can understand most of your argument, even though I disagree with it. Frank Gore being injury prone is just not correct, though. He has actually pretty much proven the opposite during his time as an NFL starter.

I agree he's stayed healthy in the NFL but I still feel he's a time bomb waiting to happen. I could be wrong and he'll never suffer another ACL injury again, but drafting him in the top 5 isn't worth the risk to me. That said, he's got top 5 production capability it's tough to put him any lower than 8.

 

[cstu]

My quick take on Gore. PPR stud, standard league top 10... so long as he stays on the field.

Mike Martz=Gore staying off the fieldFantasy playoffs last year KJ 6 and 9 touches. These 2 followed a 23 carry 2 touchdown game. Martz is death. You never get a handle on what he's going to do.

KJ just wasn't the right back for Martz' offense. I think Gore is a much better fit.

 

[TheFanatic]

My quick take on Gore. PPR stud, standard league top 10... so long as he stays on the field.

Mike Martz=Gore staying off the fieldFantasy playoffs last year KJ 6 and 9 touches. These 2 followed a 23 carry 2 touchdown game. Martz is death. You never get a handle on what he's going to do.

KJ just wasn't the right back for Martz' offense. I think Gore is a much better fit.

I would agree but I also worry about Gore's running style. He looks for contact. He seeks out the hits. He loves laying the hurt down. The problem with that style is it doesn't say much for longevity. Take him in a redraft but be very concerned in a dynasty...

 

[AnonymousBob]

Instead of "zooming in" on Frank Gore, I would be "zooming out".

Is he top 5 material? Not likely. Top 10? Probably so.

This is still San Francisco, and until they can settle the QB position AND the passing game, Gore will still see a crowded box.

Martz's passing game philosophy is not easy to grasp for any QB, especially in the first year. No real veterans to lean on either, who may have the ability to grasp it sooner. This will be a work in progress, and I wouldn't put alot of emphasis or thought towards an injury prone RB in such a situation. The offensive line isn't what it needs to be either.

Bottom line, I certainly wouldn't take him at #6.

Too many other "solid" choices with that pick.

Frank Gore has started 31 out of a possible 32 games the past two years, while averaging more than 22 touches/game. Who are you drafting at #6 with a better track record than that?

Hey, he's all your's. Go for it.

I can understand most of your argument, even though I disagree with it. Frank Gore being injury prone is just not correct, though. He has actually pretty much proven the opposite during his time as an NFL starter.

I agree he's stayed healthy in the NFL but I still feel he's a time bomb waiting to happen. I could be wrong and he'll never suffer another ACL injury again, but drafting him in the top 5 isn't worth the risk to me. That said, he's got top 5 production capability it's tough to put him any lower than 8.

To each their own. He's been in the league three years and has missed three games. Imo three seasons should be enough to start dismissing the college career. Just by being a running back he's bound to get banged up - that goes for any running back in the NFL.

Out of curiousity, where do you have ADP ranked?

 

[AnonymousBob]

My quick take on Gore. PPR stud, standard league top 10... so long as he stays on the field.

Mike Martz=Gore staying off the fieldFantasy playoffs last year KJ 6 and 9 touches. These 2 followed a 23 carry 2 touchdown game. Martz is death. You never get a handle on what he's going to do.

KJ just wasn't the right back for Martz' offense. I think Gore is a much better fit.

I would agree but I also worry about Gore's running style. He looks for contact. He seeks out the hits. He loves laying the hurt down. The problem with that style is it doesn't say much for longevity. Take him in a redraft but be very concerned in a dynasty...

He's 25. At what age would you expect the wheels to fall off? I don't generally focus past 3 years in dynasty leagues but I understand different people look at different things.

 

[goodyear pimps]

Foster to help in passing game

(Rotoworld) Mike Nolan says DeShaun Foster will add just as much to the 49ers passing game as their running game.Impact: Mike Martz loves his backs to catch, and Foster is underrated in that area. As an oversized finesse back, he actually fits well in Martz's offense. He's a solid handcuff for Frank Gore owners, even if he doesn't get regular carries.