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Fred Jackson...the #1 RB in fantasy football (1 Viewer)

DaWidowMaker

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To date he has 106 carries 601 yards with 6 Td's and 5.7 ypc avg....to go with 24 catches and 279 yards. Do I have to tell you that he avg's 100 yards rushing and a TD a game to go with 4 catches and 50 yards?

Don't even bother extrapolating that to a 13 game fantasy season as everyone knows that this guy is giving your opponents the business every week. We all know that he is a must-start and is probably carrying a lot of teams who took him in the 4-7th round. If you were able to get him later you are probably undefeated. My point is that he could very well not even have scratched the surface and here's why:

1) They are a very pass happy team with Fred looking more and more like Marshall Faulk to Fitzpatricks Warner...will he keep the receptions up due to his high reliability?

2) The Bills don't run a traditional 2 back set...but its coming...what happens when the weather changes which leads me to

3) Weather...we all know that in 3-4 weeks Buffalo will not be afforded the luxury to keep passing out of 4/5 WR sets (heavy winds/snow etc)...when that happens can Freds rushing numbers get even higher?

Lets give this man his due and talk about it :boxing:

And yes I'm a Fred Jackson owner and loving his dependability week in and out...errr..except for this week (bye).

 
FJax is my MVP. Pretty surprising when I have guys like Chris Johnson, Rivers, Steve Smith, Fitzgerald, etc.

I love me some FJax.

 
Jackson was my RB3 going into the season. When Charles went down, I figured I was done. Never would've dreamed getting this kind of production from Fjax.

 
I traded Plax for FJax before the season

I offered FJax for Manningham before the season since I only had Marshall, VJax, and Amendola at WR and thought I would be okay with McCoy, Felix, Starks, and Reggie Bush (PPR) at RB. The owner told me it was a joke offer

THANK THE LORD

 
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He went undrafted in my league. :wub:

Picked him up and have run with him ever since. It's fun to have 2 Arian Fosters on my team...or should I start saying 2 Fred Jacksons...

 
'Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
Saved my season when I lost Jamaal Charles.Thanks FJax!
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I too would like to thank you, Fred...on an offensively challenged IDP dynasty team, I traded DeMeco Ryans and a 2012-4th for Fred...would not be 3-3 without him.Would like to add I am concerned heading into next year though...the old man is 30 after all.
 
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i traded for him early in the season... hes been a god send along with Ryan Mathews. No way did i see this coming but the guy looks really good this year.

 
i've noticed his rather low dynasty rankings because of his age. sure, he's on the wrong side of 30, but it's tough to know how much mileage he put on his body while playing in development leagues.

here's the touches if anyone's curious:

2004: Sioux City Bandits: 190 carries and 33 catches

2005: Sioux City Bandits: 334 carries and 38 catches

2006: Rhein Fire: 157 carries and 27 catches

so while he played a good amount each season, he's never really been the bell cow running back except for 2005. that, along with lighter workloads for the bills in 2007 and 2008, bodes somewhat well for his longevity, i'd think.

for dynasty purposes, i'd treat him like a 27 or 28 year old back. watch him closely--the wheels could fall off at any time--but if your team is in any position to win the next few seasons, i'd try to pry him from his current owner in dynasty, especially if you sense that owner is concerned about his plus 30 age.

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as an aside: it's funny to think how much of an impact the leshoure injury has had on my team so far. i was happy to grab jackson in dynasty in the offseason, but because of league format, i was going to have to cut him or leshoure after the preseason. i was going to watch leshoure closely in preseason, but a day after the auction, leshoure injury made my decision easy...

 
'CokeZero said:
'Ted Lange as your Bartender said:
Saved my season when I lost Jamaal Charles.Thanks FJax!
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I too would like to thank you, Fred...on an offensively challenged IDP dynasty team, I traded DeMeco Ryans and a 2012-4th for Fred...would not be 3-3 without him.Would like to add I am concerned heading into next year though...the old man is 30 after all.
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Yeah, another thanks to FJax. Took him in the 7th, started him week 1 on.
 
He started as an afterthought for me. Was hoping he and Hightower could scrape by until one of my sleepers emerged. Turns out I already had my sleeper!!!

 
I've spent the last couple of years with FJax hanging out in my flex spot with some nice success. I figured this was the year to hop off of that train. I'm stupid.

 
Took Jackson as my #4 RB in all 3 of my leagues, with Forte and Bradshaw as my #2 and #3 while sacrificing QB and WR to begin with, i've since been able to upgrade my WR's by making some trades.....slightly regretted trading jackson in 2 of the 3 leagues until Bradshaw blew up yesterday!

 
Can any Buffalo homers or ffl experts use their hindsight to figure out why he's so good this year? What changed vs last year?

 
'TheAssassin said:
Can any Buffalo homers or ffl experts use their hindsight to figure out why he's so good this year? What changed vs last year?
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Bills fan here. Fred Jackson is the real deal. He has been this good for a few years but not too many people know about him outside Buffalo. The sad part is that he has played on very poorly coached teams that didn't utilize his immense talent.
 
Did Buffalo change coaches (sorry for my ignorance)?

Edit: According to my reference only Dave Wannstadt(sp) was added as a LB coach.

So I ask again, how could we have seen this coming. Yes, he's talented, wasn't he talented last year?

 
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I went into the draft hoping to snag him in the 7th round or so and other players I had rated more highly kept slipping, so I passed over him twice before picking him up in the 9th round. Best 9th round pick ever. I'm going to have to strongly consider keeping him next season, even considering his age.

He's saved me from my horrible Felix Jones RB2 pick.

 
Had him for a few years and then traded him away last year. That was fine then but he is really making me remember that THIS year. I don't care though; I have always thought he was a good back and classy guy so I am thrilled to see him do so well.

 
My biggest fear was that they would force feed Spiller this year. I drafted both and only recently dropped the latter. If the kid is going to be good he's going to have to wait another year it would seem...

 
'TheAssassin said:
Did Buffalo change coaches (sorry for my ignorance)?Edit: According to my reference only Dave Wannstadt(sp) was added as a LB coach.So I ask again, how could we have seen this coming. Yes, he's talented, wasn't he talented last year?
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This is Gailey's second year. Last year he kicked the tires for a few games to see what kind of talent he had.
 
Got him for a 2nd round draft pick in next years rookie draft in 4 different dynasty leagues during the offseason.

I expected solid RB2 production, but he has obviously far exceeded that. He was criminally underrated coming into this season.

 
Good to see Freddy get his due, but please don't jinx him - can't afford for him to get hurt after already losing Charles.

 
The Bills Oline is blocking much better this year than they have in years past. But Jackson put up really good numbers 2 years ago, and last year after Lynch was traded.

His success should come as no surprise, though I don't think even his most optimistic supporters expected THIS MUCH success.

At this point if you have him in dynasty, just hold him for the duration of his career. What he can bring to your team is worth far more than what he can get you in trade, due to his age and the perception that he is old.

 
In my dynasty league, one owner has the following starters:

Aaron Rodgers

Fred Jackson

Matt Forte

LeSean McCoy

All four of these guys are in the top 20 overall in our 12 team IDP league. He has scored 410 pts from his RB's, the next highest number is 259. He has the #1 QB and 3 of the top 4 RB's (#3 is Sproles).

Yet he is 3-3. :mellow: Needless to say he has a lot of problems at other positions (we start 14 with IDP's).

 
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'Macdaddy_2004 said:
I wish FBG spent the summer hyping Fred Jackson instead of Mark Ingram.
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They had him as a value pick and predicted he would outperform his draft position. Plus, if you paid attention to what he did towards the end of last season you may have had him valued in the same manner as he had several big games. He's quietly had 1k+ seasons before..I fell for Ingram in 1/3 leagues and took FJax in 2/3 of my leagues. Obviously didn't predict this type of surge, but thought he would be a good RB2.
 
'glong989 said:
'Macdaddy_2004 said:
I wish FBG spent the summer hyping Fred Jackson instead of Mark Ingram.
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They had him as a value pick and predicted he would outperform his draft position. Plus, if you paid attention to what he did towards the end of last season you may have had him valued in the same manner as he had several big games. He's quietly had 1k+ seasons before..I fell for Ingram in 1/3 leagues and took FJax in 2/3 of my leagues. Obviously didn't predict this type of surge, but thought he would be a good RB2.
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Drafted Ingram in the 4th....Freddie in the 6th. Probably the best 6th round pick I've made in quite a while.
 
'TheAssassin said:
Can any Buffalo homers or ffl experts use their hindsight to figure out why he's so good this year? What changed vs last year?
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The offensive line, which was woeful last year and has been pretty bad for the last few years, has really taken a step forward this year. It's like night-and-day. Eric Wood is a very good player, and Andy Levitre is developing into a solid pro. The big question marks on the line - guard Kraig Urbik, RT Erik Pears, and LT Demetrius Bell/Chris Hairston - have had very positive seasons so far. Bell has missed the last two games and the offense hasn't missed a beat with the rookie Hairston on the line.There had really been no cohesion in the past. Wood has been good for his 2-year career, but has been hurt off and on. Levitre has been shuffled around to nearly every position on the OL in just 2 years. Urbik just kinda showed up last year after being cut by the Steelers and impressed some people. Bell was, before this year, an underachieving (relatively speaking; he was a 7th-round pick, after all) left tackle who wouldn't have started for ~25 other NFL teams. Hairston is a rookie. Pears played just two games with the Bills in 2010 after coming over mid-season from Jacksonville.The cohesion in the unit is really apparent with the more they play together.Fred gets the love (and deservedly so), but the collective play of the offensive line is the team's "MVP" through 6 games.
 
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Drafted in the 15th (24 rd IDP league) as my 6th RB...after Matthews and Lynch. If Reggie Bush wasn't take the pick prior, I probably would've taken Bush... :-/

 
I don't know why but i'm still in denial that Fred Jackson is a top 10 back for the rest of the year.

Call me crazy but I think he messed up some soft defenses in this early part of his schedule. The only way i see him continuing this rampage that he's on is if he catches 3-4 balls per game.

The amount of touches per game, IMO, leads to missed time with a 30 year old RB.

I think it's more realistic to see a stat-line of what he against Cinci: 16 carries for 70 yards and 25 receiving yards.

His Schedule:

Skins

Jets

@Cowboys

@Dolphins

@Jets

Titans

@Chargers

Broncos

Patriots

The bolded are stiff run defenses. (Yeah i know the Jet's haven't done well against the run. But they have turned around since Mcfadden's huge game)

Someone convince me why I would want him in the 1st, 2nd, or even third round.

 
'DaMenace18 said:
I don't know why but i'm still in denial that Fred Jackson is a top 10 back for the rest of the year.

Call me crazy but I think he messed up some soft defenses in this early part of his schedule. The only way i see him continuing this rampage that he's on is if he catches 3-4 balls per game.

The amount of touches per game, IMO, leads to missed time with a 30 year old RB.

I think it's more realistic to see a stat-line of what he against Cinci: 16 carries for 70 yards and 25 receiving yards.

His Schedule:

Skins

Jets

@Cowboys

@Dolphins

@Jets

Titans

@Chargers

Broncos

Patriots

The bolded are stiff run defenses. (Yeah i know the Jet's haven't done well against the run. But they have turned around since Mcfadden's huge game)

Someone convince me why I would want him in the 1st, 2nd, or even third round.
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Looking at SOS not many backs have great match ups. Foster would be one, but the rest are just as bad as Jackson. Only difference is Jackson proved last year that he will give you 6-7 catches vs those defenses. Almost every team with good running match ups rest of the way have are avg running teams at best.

 
'DaMenace18 said:
I don't know why but i'm still in denial that Fred Jackson is a top 10 back for the rest of the year.

Call me crazy but I think he messed up some soft defenses in this early part of his schedule. The only way i see him continuing this rampage that he's on is if he catches 3-4 balls per game.

The amount of touches per game, IMO, leads to missed time with a 30 year old RB.

I think it's more realistic to see a stat-line of what he against Cinci: 16 carries for 70 yards and 25 receiving yards.

His Schedule:

Skins

Jets

@Cowboys

@Dolphins

@Jets

Titans

@Chargers

Broncos

Patriots

The bolded are stiff run defenses. (Yeah i know the Jet's haven't done well against the run. But they have turned around since Mcfadden's huge game)

Someone convince me why I would want him in the 1st, 2nd, or even third round.
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Nothing about that schedule scares me in regards to Fred Jackson
 
'The Real Hipster Doofus said:
'DaMenace18 said:
I don't know why but i'm still in denial that Fred Jackson is a top 10 back for the rest of the year.

Call me crazy but I think he messed up some soft defenses in this early part of his schedule. The only way i see him continuing this rampage that he's on is if he catches 3-4 balls per game.

The amount of touches per game, IMO, leads to missed time with a 30 year old RB.

I think it's more realistic to see a stat-line of what he against Cinci: 16 carries for 70 yards and 25 receiving yards.

His Schedule:

Skins

Jets

@Cowboys

@Dolphins

@Jets

Titans

@Chargers

Broncos

Patriots

The bolded are stiff run defenses. (Yeah i know the Jet's haven't done well against the run. But they have turned around since Mcfadden's huge game)

Someone convince me why I would want him in the 1st, 2nd, or even third round.
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Nothing about that schedule scares me in regards to Fred Jackson
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If he rushes for over 80 yards and scores against Skins, Jets, and Boys than i will hop on board. But by then it's to late lol.
 
I see no reason to think that Jackson won't get 3-4 catches every week on top of the rushes. He's been getting that regularly anyway.

Even against tough rush defenses, I think he still puts up solid yardage with chances at scoring.

 
'solorca said:
I see no reason to think that Jackson won't get 3-4 catches every week on top of the rushes. He's been getting that regularly anyway. Even against tough rush defenses, I think he still puts up solid yardage with chances at scoring.
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Fair enough. If he's going to be the center piece of this offense like Forte, then yeah its hard to put him outside of the top ten. Has Freddie had any injury history? just curious
 
'DaMenace18 said:
I don't know why but i'm still in denial that Fred Jackson is a top 10 back for the rest of the year.
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I hear what you're saying, and as a Jackson owner I have the same sinking feeling that the clock will strike midnight for Fred.BUT, one has to look at the positives - the guy is clearly talented in all facets of the game and does not have a lot of mileage despite being the advanced RB age of 30. And perhaps most importantly, the Bills are winning, so there is no compelling reason for the team to see what they have with Spiller as a potential future lead back. This means that as long as the team is in the hunt, the offense is playing at a quality level, and the defense keeps them in games, there will be lots and lots of touches for Fred.

 
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