Fred Jackson (1 Viewer)

[display name]

Fred Jackson deserves some discussion. He was probably drafted as a RB3, somewhere between the early 6th and late 7th round. He is a top 5 RB in non-ppr so far.

Do those who drafted him have a late round stud on their hand? The kind of player that you are just happy you drafted and hopefully ride to a championship?

Maybe the owner who owns him think's he can't keep up this production. You might be able to get him for less than he is worth, depending on how his owner feels about him.

Or maybe he should be sold by his owners. His value may never be higher than it is right now.

Where does he finish among the RBs?

 

[Angry Beavers]

Problem with selling him is no one is going to give you enough value to represent the level he is currently producing at. Unless you can get a tremendous deal in which he is treated like a top 10 back, you just hold onto him and enjoy the ride.

I do own him in one league and that is what I am doing. If I could pry him away on the cheap in other leagues I would do so, but I don't blame the owner in those other leagues for not wanting to part with him for a marginal talent.

 

[glong989]

The Bills passing game is better than early last season and you could see Jackson coming on towards the end of 2010. I'm shopping him only if I he is legitimately my #3-4 back and I need help elsewhere. Otherwise hold. He should be able to finish as a bottom RB1 with potential to be top 7-10.

 

[AcerFC]

Leaving out the particulars so I dont cloud up the thread I just sent Antonio Gates for Jackson

 

[Breesisdaman]

I pulled an offer to the Aaron Foster owner where I was offering Jackson and AJ Green for Foster. (I own Tate) I just think Fjax could put up top RB numbers without me having to give up AJ Green at the WR position.

 

[display name]

2008: 129 car 560 yards 3 TD 1 FL 37 rec 317 yards 0 TD 45 targets (RB44)

2009: 238 car 1062 yards 2 TD 2 FL 46 rec 371 yards 2 TD 60 targets (RB22)

2010: 222 car 927 yards 5 TD 2 FL 31 rec 215 yards 2 TD 54 targets (RB21)

Jackson was over 4 ypc in each season. He was given consistent targets out of the backfield. Up until early last season, Jackson was sharing the backfield with Marshawn Lynch Last season Lynch was shipped to the Bills. After week 7, Fred Jackson really emerged as the primary back.

Post week 7:

week FP Opp car yds tds FL rec yds tds tgts

7 7 at Ravens 23 73 0 1 4 2

8 7 at Chiefs 20 64 0 3 11 8

9 7 vs Bears 8 16 1 1 5 20 7

10 27 vs Lions 25 133 1 1 6 37 1 7

11 24 at Bengals 21 116 2 0 3 13 5

12 23 vs Steelers 12 59 0 5 104 1 5

13 4 at Vikings 11 42 0 1 6 1

14 11 vs Browns 29 112 0 1 3 4

15 3 at Dolphins 15 36 0 2

16 9 vs Patriots 13 81 0 2 11 3

RB11 over that period of time.

The Bills look like they could be a much more competitive team this season. Jackson is having a great season so far and has a very high ypc.

Is week 7 on last season a good bench mark? Do we rate him as a very low end RB1 or high end RB2, or is early this season a sign of things to come?

I guess my opinion right now is that I think he finishes top 10. He won't have as many receptions as he has in the past because Spiller has been more involved in the passing game. But he should see around 17 carries and 2 receptions a game. The wildcard is how many TDs he can score. He scored 7 last year, but this Bills team looks like it could churn out more scoring than prior seasons. That could set this season apart from others for Jackson.

I am saying hold him if you have him unless you can get at least RB10 or so value. Buy him if you can get him for RB14 or worse price tag. Sell him if an owner is willing to pay top ten RB value.

Edit to add: I would only sell him at RB10 value if I had another back I felt comfortable riding.

 

[RavenLunatic]

Yup. Blue collar and under appreciated. Sometimes the Thomas Jones/Cedric Benson types produce like studs but don't hold that value in name.

The key is to know who to target going into the season so you draft these guys at the discount before they produce.

For example I was able to draft Brandon Lloyd and Wes Welker in rounds I would have drafted better named running backs that Jacskon is out producing.

No wonder Belicheck likes him so much. The Pats build their teams exactly like that by maximizing talent regardless of hype or star power. Even their biggest star was a nobody before he made himself one in the NFL.

 

[Hue G]

I would sell him.......... to me

 

[wudaben]

Nobody will ever give you Fred's true value in a trade so I personally would hold him and ride the production!

 

[Wrigley]

I'm buying, if they are selling.

 

[TheDemon]

Problem with selling him is no one is going to give you enough value to represent the level he is currently producing at.

Jeez, you mean the Mario Manningham I was offered this week for him isn't enough value?

 

[David Yudkin]

In his last 10 games, Jackson has averaged 20 touches, 106 yards from scrimmage, and 0.5 TD a game.

I could see a case for buy, sell, or hold.

BUY: If your team is not getting any RB production (say you have Foster without a handcuff), Jackson might be a less expensive back to bring in than some others if you had depth that you could spare at other positions. I don't see him keeping up his current pace, but he generally is somewhat consistent and probably won't kill you by starting him.

SELL: I have Jackson pretty much on my bench in one league. I am still struggling with Peyton being AWOL, so it would make sense for me to move Jackson to get a QB upgrade. I would take offers for him, and if someone made a sweet deal I would trade him. But I wouldn't give him away.

HOLD: If you are starting Jackson, you are getting decent production and just ride it out until he cools off. Most teams would have him as a third RB, so those owners should have another option (if that player is healthy). If he is on your bench, he provides solid depth in case of injury. As the weeks go by and other RBs get dinged, then maybe his trade value goes up or you might need help in other areas and he becomes trade bait.

 

[ffldrew]

As a Jackson owner what I really enjoyed seeing last week was the Bills Offense not going into panic mode when behind the Raiders and abandon the running game completely - I like to see an offense gain that confidence when selecting running backs. Raiders D had shut down the Broncos the week before so I was impressed - this week I'm looking forward to seeing the Bills Running game against NE. Will Gailey panic against the NE juggernaut? It will give a good signal as to where Freddie ends up for the season IMO. I'm holding for now.

 

[Maven]

sell this guy immeadiately

 

[Hanz]

I've been shopping him for a WR and the best offer I've gotten is Wes Welker. Thinking of biting but I know I will regret it.

 

[GroveDiesel]

SELL: I have Jackson pretty much on my bench in one league. I am still struggling with Peyton being AWOL, so it would make sense for me to move Jackson to get a QB upgrade. I would take offers for him, and if someone made a sweet deal I would trade him. But I wouldn't give him away.

Who the heck else do you have at RB that is putting Jackson on the bench? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson? I can't imagine too many teams that have Jackson that have him as a bench player at this point.

 

[glong989]

SELL: I have Jackson pretty much on my bench in one league. I am still struggling with Peyton being AWOL, so it would make sense for me to move Jackson to get a QB upgrade. I would take offers for him, and if someone made a sweet deal I would trade him. But I wouldn't give him away.

Who the heck else do you have at RB that is putting Jackson on the bench? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson? I can't imagine too many teams that have Jackson that have him as a bench player at this point.

Most didn't draft him until the 6-7 so it would make sense to be on the bench for some..I have him in 2 of my 10 man PPR leagues and he has yet to see the field this season. ADP, DMC, w/ Britt as Flex in one league and Hillis, Rice, Best in the other. If you drafted 5 RBs/WRs in the first 5 rounds or hit on someone like Britt then you may not have room in your flex..I still think I'm holding here as he will be very solid bye week/injury filler and as others have said his value isn't high enough to ship him off for a mediocre WR.

 

[GroveDiesel]

SELL: I have Jackson pretty much on my bench in one league. I am still struggling with Peyton being AWOL, so it would make sense for me to move Jackson to get a QB upgrade. I would take offers for him, and if someone made a sweet deal I would trade him. But I wouldn't give him away.

Who the heck else do you have at RB that is putting Jackson on the bench? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson? I can't imagine too many teams that have Jackson that have him as a bench player at this point.

I have him in 2 of my 10 man leagues and he has yet to see the field this season. ADP and DMC in one league and Hillis and Rice in the other. If you drafted 5 RBs/WRs in the first 5 rounds or hit on someone like Britt then you may not have room in your flex..

I could see DMC, especially if it's a PPR league, but Hillis? Really? Jackson seems like the clear choice over Hillis at this point to me.

 

[display name]

SELL: I have Jackson pretty much on my bench in one league. I am still struggling with Peyton being AWOL, so it would make sense for me to move Jackson to get a QB upgrade. I would take offers for him, and if someone made a sweet deal I would trade him. But I wouldn't give him away.

Who the heck else do you have at RB that is putting Jackson on the bench? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson? I can't imagine too many teams that have Jackson that have him as a bench player at this point.

A lot of people who own Jackson probably have 3 top 24 RBs if they drafted the right guys.

 

[GroveDiesel]

SELL: I have Jackson pretty much on my bench in one league. I am still struggling with Peyton being AWOL, so it would make sense for me to move Jackson to get a QB upgrade. I would take offers for him, and if someone made a sweet deal I would trade him. But I wouldn't give him away.

Who the heck else do you have at RB that is putting Jackson on the bench? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson? I can't imagine too many teams that have Jackson that have him as a bench player at this point.

A lot of people who own Jackson probably have 3 top 24 RBs if they drafted the right guys.

I understand that, but how many of them do people really have above Jackson right now? I realize I'm biased because I'm a Bills fan, so I'm legitimately curious about this. Because right now, these are the only guys I'd start over him:ADPDMCRiceMcCoyand maybe MJD and Forte depending on the matchup and whether it was a PPR league or not. That's it though. And I doubt too many people have more than one guy off of that list.

 

[kingmalaki]

SELL: I have Jackson pretty much on my bench in one league. I am still struggling with Peyton being AWOL, so it would make sense for me to move Jackson to get a QB upgrade. I would take offers for him, and if someone made a sweet deal I would trade him. But I wouldn't give him away.

Who the heck else do you have at RB that is putting Jackson on the bench? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson? I can't imagine too many teams that have Jackson that have him as a bench player at this point.

I have him sitting behind Forte and Gore and haven't started him yet. I tried to trade him for Britt but the best offer I received back was Stevie Johnson. I'm leaning towards keeping him and trading Gore actually.

 

[Trizzler]

Offered him up (PPR) for Brandon Marshall in one trade, Kenny Britt in another. Neither owner bit despite them being extremely weak at RB. Considering I have McCoy, Forte, Tate, and Bradshaw on my roster, I could really use help at WR...but he holds no name value and it seems as if his production is invisible to people who don't own him.

Very frustrating. BUT, I'm definitely glad he was my 7th round selection, especially since he went well after guys like D-will, Greene, and Ingram.

Basically guys, don't allow yourselves to be ripped off. F-Jax is worth a tier 2 WR, maybe even tier 1 considering his production. Anything less is an insult.

 

[glong989]

Yeah I still get people in my league saying he's a bum even after leading the league in rushing after two weeks. Obviously I don't think he keeps it up and ends up with the most yards, but it's going to take about 2-3 more weeks of top production to draw any good trades.

 

[D_House]

I'm bullish on Jackson and think you definitely hold/buy. I don't see anything that suggests his production is a fluke or will sharply decline. He is the clear starter; a true three down back in a prolific offense, the best situation for a FF RB. And he has a stellar YPC despite an average (at best) O-line, suggesting talent. Opportunity + talent = fantasy points.

So if you have the luxury of having him on your bench and you need help at QB or WR, you trade one of your 'name' RB1s, keep Jackson, and enjoy his RB1 production plus the production of the new stud that you traded for.

 

[Hanz]

Which WR's would you guys say is good value in return for Fred Jackson?

 

[David Yudkin]

SELL: I have Jackson pretty much on my bench in one league. I am still struggling with Peyton being AWOL, so it would make sense for me to move Jackson to get a QB upgrade. I would take offers for him, and if someone made a sweet deal I would trade him. But I wouldn't give him away.

Who the heck else do you have at RB that is putting Jackson on the bench? Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson? I can't imagine too many teams that have Jackson that have him as a bench player at this point.

IIRC, I took Jackson in the 7th round. Starting ADP and Best. No flex, 0 ppr.I think there are probably several folks that took Rice / ADP / DMac / Forte that probably hit on another back besides Jackson.

 

[eaglezzz]

I think if Buffalo keeps rolling Freddie Jackson's value will only continue to increase. I wish he was on my team, curious to know what his equivelant value would be for a WR.

 

[Nate]

Dynasty = Sell.

Redraft = Hold.

 

[Hank Mardukas]

In redraft I don't see how he's anything but a hold right now. I got him with the last pick in Rd 6 and have been ecstatic with his production. He's a primary reason I've outscored the 2nd place team by 40 pts in my 12-team PPR. If you're an owner, no one is likely to give you comparable value to what you perceive he's worth. If you're a buyer, it's just the flip side of that coin, as no owner is likely to give him up for what you're looking to pay. I had someone try to offer me ADP for VJax, J. Finley, and FJax, as if FJax was some kind of throw-in. I'm totally unconvinced that Peterson will be anywhere near a big enough upgrade to warrant giving FJax along with a tier 1 WR. With how the Bills are looking, it's not too much of a stretch to think Jackson could end up outscoring Peterson.

If he keeps up the pace for a couple more weeks, his perceived value could rise to where you'll get adequate value in a trade, but I don't think you want to take the risk of overpaying for him as a buyer or selling to low as an owner right now. IMO he has a very high floor, and that kind of security is worth a lot.

 

[mdlane]

In one of my leagues, someone traded him straight up for Tom Brady. Which I think is insane, but there was no collusion.

And in another league, I own him but I don't think I'd sell him right now for anything but a top 10 guy. And if I didn't own him, I'd definitely put up a WR6-10 Marshall-type in exchange.

 

[gump]

Which WR's would you guys say is good value in return for Fred Jackson?

I just got offered Mike Wallace for him in a non-ppr by the Charles owner.I'm even hesitating on that....but going to do it.

 

[rjv]

Which WR's would you guys say is good value in return for Fred Jackson?

At this point you won't get the value you should for him. If he keeps it up for a few more games, you may get a top 10 WR easily.

 

[cubd8]

It's early, but it looks like Fred Jackson could be the guy that many were hoping Felix Jones (or Moreno) would be.

 

[Hanz]

Which WR's would you guys say is good value in return for Fred Jackson?

At this point you won't get the value you should for him. If he keeps it up for a few more games, you may get a top 10 WR easily.

I've been offered Welker or DeSean Jackson thus far

 

[HurryUpSundays]

fwiw i was offered forte and woodhead for my fjax and hightower. ppr.

had to decline due to my shallow rb situation.

 

[gump]

Which WR's would you guys say is good value in return for Fred Jackson?

I just got offered Mike Wallace for him in a non-ppr redraft by the Charles owner.I'm even hesitating on that....but going to do it.

To add...I let him choose between Gore, Bradshaw, and Jackson...he took Jackson.

 

[Hanz]

He's been a beast thus far

 

[Jake22]

If you drafted him, of course it would be hard to sell him right now, but it depends on your roster, since he was probably drafted as your RB3 you might have some options. It would also depend on which RB1 you took early, if you took Foster, C.Johnson or J.Charles, or drafted a QB in the first round, he's your RB1 right now and he's not going anywhere. If you took AP, Rice, DMC as your RB1 then you should have some depth where you might be able to shop him for max value right now. I would want to see him perform against some better teams before I buy him after only two games, the season is only two weeks old and they have only played KC and Oakland so far.

 

[Bad_Mo]

I'm holding and starting him until he forces me to look at other options.

I consider him a steal in the 8th round (Spiller went in the 4th) and he is helping my situation with CJ's slow start. I had my eye on him last year and liked his production despite being on a pretty bad team. This year, Buffalo's offense seems to be clicking. Ride the wave, fellas.

 

[dwashington]

The thing that suprises me the most about Fred Jackson is the offensive line play this year.

I thought they were supposed to be the worst oline in the NFL (after Seattle)??

KC's defense may not be a good barometer, but the Raiders have a pretty good dline.

I'm holding.

 

[socrates]

Dynasty = Sell.Redraft = Hold.

ThisIf ever you are going to sell in a Dynasty format, I don't see how his value could increase much. He is playing out of his mind, but he is also coming off of games against KC and Oak. The schedule is going to get tougher, if anything.That said, I expect Jackson to finish among the top RBs this season. His production is no mirage.

 

[-jb-]

Which WR's would you guys say is good value in return for Fred Jackson?

I just got offered Mike Wallace for him in a non-ppr by the Charles owner.I'm even hesitating on that....but going to do it.

I had the same trade offered to me for Wallace, and there is no way I do it. It's been two games. The Chefs have been blown up in both games, and Oakland barely beat Denver. Jackson has looked impressive thus far, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Two weeks is not a trend. For those that own him and claim that others "can't see the value," you should put start him and move your first or second round pick. Unless, of course, you don't totally believe your own words...

 

[fightingillini]

Which WR's would you guys say is good value in return for Fred Jackson?

I just got offered Mike Wallace for him in a non-ppr by the Charles owner.I'm even hesitating on that....but going to do it.

I had the same trade offered to me for Wallace, and there is no way I do it. It's been two games. The Chefs have been blown up in both games, and Oakland barely beat Denver. Jackson has looked impressive thus far, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Two weeks is not a trend. For those that own him and claim that others "can't see the value," you should put start him and move your first or second round pick. Unless, of course, you don't totally believe your own words...

Wallace for Jackson straight up is a pretty fair trade. I would do it if I can get that offer. Wallace is a top 10 WR with top 5 upside....and PIT's schedule is pretty easy the rest of the way.That said, I own Jackson in two leagues and I am holding him. He's my flex option in one league (definitely the best flex in the league). In my other league, I have him with Hillis, S Jackson, Wells and R Bush....10 team start 2RB PPR league. That league I am shopping S Jackson, Wells, and R Bush and keeping F Jackson.He's a solid #2RB the rest of the way.For me to get rid of F Jackson, I need a WR about WR10 or better in a 1-1 swap, or a QB of Stafford or better. Or if I could use F Jackson in a 2-1 deal and get an elite player. Since I don't think any of that would ever happen, he's a hold.

 

[moderated]

Dynasty = Sell.Redraft = Hold.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Which WR's would you guys say is good value in return for Fred Jackson?

I just got offered Mike Wallace for him in a non-ppr by the Charles owner.I'm even hesitating on that....but going to do it.

I had the same trade offered to me for Wallace, and there is no way I do it. It's been two games. The Chefs have been blown up in both games, and Oakland barely beat Denver. Jackson has looked impressive thus far, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Two weeks is not a trend. For those that own him and claim that others "can't see the value," you should put start him and move your first or second round pick. Unless, of course, you don't totally believe your own words...

Wallace for Jackson straight up is a pretty fair trade. I would do it if I can get that offer. Wallace is a top 10 WR with top 5 upside....and PIT's schedule is pretty easy the rest of the way.That said, I own Jackson in two leagues and I am holding him. He's my flex option in one league (definitely the best flex in the league). In my other league, I have him with Hillis, S Jackson, Wells and R Bush....10 team start 2RB PPR league. That league I am shopping S Jackson, Wells, and R Bush and keeping F Jackson.He's a solid #2RB the rest of the way.For me to get rid of F Jackson, I need a WR about WR10 or better in a 1-1 swap, or a QB of Stafford or better. Or if I could use F Jackson in a 2-1 deal and get an elite player. Since I don't think any of that would ever happen, he's a hold.

Really, you would pull the trigger on a F-Jax for Wallace trade? Hmmm. It would leave me thin at RB but I do like Wallace, especially since he has been logging more receptions thus far. I dunno. I like me some F-Jax though. He seems like a man on a mission this year.

 

[Gbagzz]

The Jamaal Charles owner is desperate and just offered me Larry Fitzgeral for Boldin and either Bradshaw or Jackson. I'm actually leaning on trading Bradhshaw over him. There passing game is clicking... gotta love a rb in a high powered offense. That s what s great about fantasy. He might be a marginal talent but he s in a great situation.

 

[(HULK)]

Which WR's would you guys say is good value in return for Fred Jackson?

I traded him away for Roddy White this week. So, pretty decent WRs can be had if you find a team in dire need of an RB.

 

[BobbyLayne]

dynasty = sell

redraft = key to your championship

he's got a coach and QB who love him and he's producing

roll with the flow

the trend is your friend

 

[Diamond One]

If you own him: Hold. It's only Week 3, RB's come and go, and he does play for BUF. If you don't have him on your roster, it does warrant a hard look, but I would caution about any radical moves to secure him... Again, it's only Week 3!

 

[Trizzler]

After his performance this week, I'm not really interested in trade bait. He's one hell of a third RB in a 10 team league, and I've now moved him into the same category as Stafford, Megatron, and Rice: untouchable.